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    Posted: March 16 2006 at 5:09am
I'm trying to put together 72hr backpacks in case we have to leave the house in a hurry.  I've been researching ones that you can buy but they are really expensive. And, it seems like a lot of things you would need are missing.  Does anyone have experience with these?  Any suggestions?
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Before you consider leaving, ask yourself why and where.
There is a lot of good information in the Priority Preparations Forum along
with folks that can offer advice.
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BOB bags they are called(bug out bags)

try in the preps..I will go look I had started a thread awhile back about BOB bags...

This post may be better in preps then discussion...I will go look for the info and may move this thread to preps...

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here is a site about bug out bags...I have nade mine and the kids on the bases of fishing..we love our canoe....so I have made everything myself..the first aid kits..the tool kits...

http://www.captaindaves.com/

and I will move this to the prep room for you...

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Take a basic list from the site and then purchase plastic containers with air tight seals..use what you have available....just make sure anything you put into your bob is airtight and cannot get wet..due to rain..snow..

I use alot of ziplock bags in mine...my kids have to carry with them anytime we are out in the woods...

 

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I looked through all of the old posts for the BOB bag one and it may be one of the ones we lost awhile back...however if you need a cheap basic list I will get one together..just pm me or re-post back here..

first thing on my list for BOB,s is a copy of all important documents..sealed so that they cannot get wet..birth certificates, health cards,drivers licence and so on...

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http://www.simplyprepared.com/college%20student%20pack.htm

COLLEGE STUDENT EMERGENCY PACK

collapsible cup
light stick
pocket facial tissue
travel toothbrush
liquid soap
dry shampoo
deodorant
comb
hand warmer
pencil
mini flashlight
grandparent's telephone number
phone money or a non-expiring phone card 
Dad's business card (for identification)
rain poncho
space blanket
shirt
socks
cash in an envelope
pocket first aid kit
acetaminophen
playing cards
rope
feminine needs (for girls)
pocket sewing kit
water and wind proof matches
towel
notepaper
toilet paper (one roll flattened in a resealable bag)
camp trowel
pocket knife
9 aseptic water packs
3 milk boxes
6 juice boxes
2 food containers
list of pack contents

 

Two food containers contain:
2 granola bars
1/3 lb. graham crackers
5 (1.4 oz.) pkg. sandwich crackers
6 (.5 oz.) fruit roll-ups
4 (2 oz.) pkg. trail mix
5 (1.5 oz.) pkg. raisins
6 to 7-1/2 oz. peanut butter
3 oz. can tuna
7 beef jerky
1 pkg. gum
fork
spoon
knife
18 individual wet wipes
food list and menu

(A 3600-calorie food bar may be substituted for all of the food)

All lists, cards, and matches are in plastic resealable bags or containers.

Personal items are travel size, where possible.

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oh ty Katdoe67..this is great....
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What I have done is get ready to place stores in different places like a
squirrel. Some at a family member's place. Some into small box storage and
some into baggae stores. hasn't cost me anything yet, but a map and preps
ready to go is my suggestion.
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Hi everyone,
Bug out only if absolutely neccessary! Radiation, being overun, safety reasons, food/ water are depleted etc.  Only in a dire circumstance would I bug out. But you are right to prepare.
Keep at minimum three things in mind as you pack. Weight, Comfort and weather proof. Water does wonders for weight
After review of what is out there, I chose to make my own. Here is what I have in our bug out bag. I would be curious to know other iems that I could include.
1. Miox water purifier. Light weight etc. + water purfier tabs.
2. Extra pair of socks -zip-loc. Change socks frequently if walking. Hang used socks outside of pack to dry out (if it's not raining) and rotate etc.
3. Three 12 hr. glow sticks. Cheap, like 2.50 at wally world.
4. Compass, map.
5. wool knit hat x3.
6. Pistol
7. Duplicate Credit card and copy of Birth Certificate, passport etc.
8. Dog tags, blood type, religion etc.
9. Phone numbers of friends and relatives (small piece of paper). Cell phone would be good or atleast some quarters. (Call collect)
10. Jogger style water container X2. Fits in a pouch on the pack.
11. Canteens. one for each member of the family. Blanket covered with shoulder strap - boyscout type.
12. First aid kit. At minimum should include duct tape (great for wounds), super glue (great for sealing wounds) sunscreen (traveler real small size). anti-bacterial ointment, band-aids, tylenol, ace bandage for sprain/splints and other obivious stuff.
13. Light weight emergency blanketX2.
14. Light weight poncho x3
15. Farraday flashlight- no need to maintain batteries.
16. Power Bars for calorie and protein. Expensive, I think, but light weight and long storage life, relatively speaking.
17. NYLON line (20 ft). Can make quick rain cover utilizing ponchos etc.
18. The pack has a light weight aluminum frame for support and stability. Make sure the pack has a chest strap and waist strap. Amazing what you can carry comfortably with a good pack.
18. K-Bar or some other survival knife.
19. Striker or matches (waterproof if you are to use matches.
20. Signal mirror & whistles, cheap, like 7 bucks.
21. Saber saw for cutting wood. $16. It's a chainsaw blade with handles. works great!
22. Small pair of binoculars. I opted for a monocularr.  6 bucks at Dick's. small and light weight.
23. sleeping bag. Heaviest item, keep it dry or you will end up leaving it behind. I latch it to the bottom of the pack with bungie cords.
24. TP . I have packed the small box of cleanex zip-loc for sure.
25. Clear plasting tubing for syphon of gas from one car to another.
26. Travelers checks or money belt. Do not put money, pisotl (if you have one) or your knife in the pack! you may end up having to dump the pack in rare emergencies. Make sure it is small bills. 5 and 10's you may find folks without change and maybe a few $50's for bribes etc. Total is around $500.
27. Potassium iodide pills for radiation. Why not right! And no, I am not a freak.
28. Fishing line and hook (not pole). It may be longer than 72 hours.
29. Nodose.
30. Multi-tool. Light weight and has pliers tweezers etc. K-mart sells them.
31. TAMIFLU. LAST BUT NOT LEAST!

Total weight comes in at around 40 - 45 lbs. That is for five people and counting only one canteen. Everyone can carry their own water.
Keep it as light as possible. You may end up walking. Writing of walking- be sure to have a good pair of conditioned borken-in hiking boots at the ready. Prefferably a boot that supports your ankles. Your body is not use to cary that load and your ankles and feet will pay the price if not geared up properly.  Bike work great too if the opportunity exists.

Hope this helps.
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We bought our 72-hour kits from www.beprepared.com.  They're not all inclusive, but a good place to start.  The first thing we added was more/better food.

 

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Over at the "Frugal Squirrel" website there used to be a great section on BOB's (Bug Out Bags) and INCH's (I'm Not Coming Home) preparations. I have a third one that I havn't been able to come up with a snappy acronym for. It is my " I am at work and I will need to get to my home" kit.

I will see if I still have any of the stuff I downloaded about evac kits. But, in reality, a "prepacked" retail kit is just somebody ELSE's idea of what you need.

My suggestion is to get one of the lists that are floating around and "modify" it to meet you own needs. However, I agree with what has been previously posted that for the identifiable potentials of H5N1 you should really pursue a "hunker inthe Bunker" approach and compliment you BOB with "Bug-In" preps.

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Nitro-Pak also has some decent pre-made packs, but Trident/Delta is right.  You're probably better off putting together your own pack.  Maybe one of these canned packs would be a good start.
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i refer to the at work bag as a GHB [get home bag], or BHB [bug home bag]
then there is my favorite one, the oh sh*t kit.
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I found great free info on the web site totallyready.com  Look at the why we include list and things to know and also check out what they include in their kits.  I like the fact that they also have a kids kit and found it cheaper to buy the kits and add my own stuff.  My kit came with a list of things to add and also important documents to add to your kit (that alone was worth the money)  I realize that we all need these kits because we can all have a house fire and we would need to get out quick, and those important docs in your kits would be invaluable.  Good Luck 
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Thanks for all your replies!

Muskrat- any list of items you have I would greatly appreciate.

I have backpacks with wheels for each family member.  I want to keep them as light as possible for when they would have to be carried on the back like a regular backpack.  Have any of you tried the water pouches or water that's in the juice boxes that you can buy?  What do the 3600 cal. food bars taste like? Would young children eat them?  Have any of you ever used a tube tent? 

I am putting these together for any kind of emergency. I don't think I would need to use them in a pandemic.  I would never leave my house unless we were burned out.  I just think it's a good idea to have something that we can just grab and go if we ever need to. 

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Oh, and thanks for the Bug out Bag definition.  I have seen references to those in other posts but had no idea what they were. I tried to look back in the preps forums but have not found much info.
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I have the pouches everywhere, in my car, office and in all our kits.  It is great to know they are good for 5 years unlike the bottles from the store which start to break down after 6 months.  I don't like the food bars but have the energy bars and we love them.  They are like a shortbread cookie and the kids think they are dessert. They are 400 calories each and have a 5 year shelf life.  I found both on totallyready.com but the water is available from lots of different places.  I don't like the tube tents because I don't think they are sturdy enough.  We have a tarp and 50 feet of nylon rope to make our own between two trees.  Make sure you get mylar blankets because these are also useful as a shelter from the sun.
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Great resource here:

Putting the Go in go-bag. List of items and links to many other sites

Bug out survival kit list here

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Carolyn -- welcome to the forum. Glad to have you here. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to holler. I look forward to your contributions! -- Libby
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Originally posted by muskrat concerning BOBs (Bug Out Bags):

http://www.aussurvivalist.com/bugout.htm

FIRST AID

Panadeine Forte
Antibiotics (Tetracycline)
Antioxidants
Trauma Dressing x 2
Crepe Bandages x 3
Triangle Bandages x 2
BurnAid Dressings
Betadine Spray
Savlon Cream
Antiseptic Soap
Non-Stick Dressings
Blister Band-Aids
Elastoplast
Butterfly Stitches
Clothing Shears
Tweezers
Immodium Plus
Insect Repellent
Sun Screen
Oil of Cloves
Sam Splint(s)

SELF DEFENCE

Capsicum Spray 17% or better
CO Wipes
Plastic Handcuffs
Expandable Baton

USEFUL ITEMS

Multitool
Knife
Sharpener
Pocket/Wire Saw
LED Torch
Spare Batteries
AM FM Radio
Knife Resistant Gloves
NBC Escape Mask
Camouflage Paint
Sleeping Bag
Emergency Blanket
Fire Starter
Fire Tinder
Poncho/Rain Coat
Gaff/Duct Tape
Titanium Crow Bar
Toilet Paper
Metal Cup
Towel
Tooth Brush
Tooth Paste
Cyalume Chemlight x 3 (red)
Microlight
Parachute Cord
Cold Coins/Cash
Prepaid Phone Card
Compact Binoculars
375ml Bundaberg Rum
Personal Radiation Dosimeter
Large Plastic Bags
Stuff Sacks
Resealable Bags

WATER / FOOD

CamelBak 3L
Water Purifying Tablets
Water Filter
Emergency Rations
Energy Bars
Comfort Food
Tea/Coffee/Hot Chocolate
Sugar
Hexamine Stove

CLOTHING

Spare Underwear x 3
Spare Socks x 3 pairs


I will have to look around some more..I had made a list of what my BOB bags had,and I cannot seem to find it,but I will keep looking
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I don’t have a BOB, but a 72 hr. BHB (bug home bag). I work 20+ miles from home. The office is near the big city and home is in the burbs. Most of the time I drive a truck, which has a BHB, but many days I ride a motorcycle. I have a BHB stashed in the office for the motorcycle days. I keep the BHB(s) in case the streets become grid locked and I have to get home.  As in most heavily populated area, traveling 20 miles in rush hour can take an hour or more. If there is an emergency, panic event, etc. the fastest way home to my security may be on foot. I wear shoes and clothes that are comfortable for walking the required distance. Be prepared, you may be separated from your home for any number of reasons.  
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WOOhoo I found it...I will post the link back to the thread and the I will copy my personal bob bag items..of course every individual,s should be made to fit their own needs...I live in the loving burr a cold froozen north,so mine are suit to me and the kids and the canoe...

http://www.avianflutalk.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=953&KW=b ug+out+bags

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In my pack..

2 garbage bags lining the bottom
spare garbage bags in a ziplock bag
bunnies(woman you know whats)3 of them
spool of wire and electricans tape
wrap bandages(2 of them)
6 feet of rope
hack saw
package of cable ties
clear plastic drop clothes(painter ones)
one roll of heavy duty jute
one roll of twine
several peices of tin foil
bungie cords
bar of soap
face cloth
tent pegs
clothes pegs
hair brush
elastic bands
tooth brush and tooth paste

In my water proof plastic case;
razor
tylenol
wet naps
painters mask and set of water googles
spare batteries
flash light
neosporin
matches
bandages
tea candles
straight pins

front pouch

whistle
jujub,s(lol)
small containers of vasoline and noxema
can opener
bottle opener
rain pouches

in the the fanny pack;

utility knife
2 small knives
small deck of cards
tin can filled with;
vasoline balls
matches
candles
safetty pins/sewing needles and thread
nails and screws
exacto knife
comb
garbage bags
tea bags,coffee,tang,sugar,coffee whitner,hot chocolate(these are in small ziplock bags)tin foil
hard candies

this is what each of us has in thier packs..in the summer the kids like to put their pails and shovels and the tackle boxs go in them..they have bug containers and small nets..but all of this is packed in a large plastic tote and would be ready to go..all the life jackets are close by also..and dod not forget your emergency papers..mine are all in a binder ready set to go also

 

here is mt list..if you need anything else i am around just buzz me..

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oh i did not put water or food in these packs they have to be changed as per the season..right now all the contents of my bob bags are on a table in my basement waiting for the warmer weather and they will be re-packed and ready for the canoe to go out fishing..now these ones are only for us to take in the canoe..in case it tips or we get stuck ont he other side of the lake in a down pour or something strange...I alsways have one made up for the car that carries about the same except there is more of the tea,s and coffee,s and such in it...
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