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   <title>General Discussion : July Prepping</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.avianflutalk.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3146" rel="nofollow">Annie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> July Prepping<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> July&nbsp;23&nbsp;2008 at 12:00pm<br /><br />Thank you Jacksdad,&nbsp;and so many others, for sharing all of your learning experiences, thoughts, brain storming, purchases, fears, and wins. I enjoy posts like the one above. Annie]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.avianflutalk.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3156" rel="nofollow">jacksdad</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> July Prepping<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> July&nbsp;23&nbsp;2008 at 10:40am<br /><br />&nbsp; More clearance stuff at Albertsons. Half price Neosporin (two tubes), 2" rolled gauze dressings (3 boxes), and burn dressings (two boxes - 5 in each). <DIV>&nbsp; I ordered some drum liners for a couple of steel 55 gallon drums I picked up cheap, and they arrived this week. The drums themselves ($25 for two) are in perfect condition and come epoxy coated on the inside, but the 10mil round bottomed liners&nbsp;should&nbsp;protect against&nbsp;any rust forming. They're FDA approved so they'll be okay for water storage. They're less than $7 each from US Plastic Corporation, although USA Emergency Supply sells&nbsp;slightly bigger ones for a few dollars more. The nice thing with these two suppliers is they don't have a minimum order unlike some that require you to buy as many as a couple of hundred.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp; I have more mylar bags on order from USA Emergency Supply so I can store the rest of my dry preps this month. I have the last of my rice (bought on sale a few weeks ago), and some TVP, beans and&nbsp;lentils waiting, and&nbsp;I also have&nbsp;half a dozen new 5 gallon buckets and the last of my oxygen absorbers ready for when they arrive. If I'd realised I would be ordering more I'd have got the drum liners from them too and combined shipping. Oh well. Live and learn.</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.avianflutalk.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=483" rel="nofollow">Penham</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Storm heading for the Gulf?<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> July&nbsp;23&nbsp;2008 at 7:18am<br /><br />Currently hitting the Harlingen, Rio Grande Valley area as of early this morning, supposedely will dump approximately 15 inches of rain, with this CAT 1 hurricane, they are expectng flooding and power outages. <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Hopefully things will go ok, that is such a hot area, it is going to be steamy down there with no electricity and no AC, I used to live in South Texas (Aransas Pass, near Corpus) I would not be looking forward to no AC.</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.avianflutalk.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3304" rel="nofollow">FluMom</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Will those over 40 be lowest vaccine priority- new<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> July&nbsp;23&nbsp;2008 at 5:24am<br /><br />I have done press releases for large companies, small companies and political campaigns.  No you don't just write something and someone prints it.  <br /><br />Newspapers and News Channels only print or cover what will be interesting to their "viewers".  So our "news" is very controlled and filtered today.<br /><br />The good news is fourms like this one is where regular people get to talk and speak out on specific topics.  However, fourms like this one are only read by a small number of people who already believe that BF will hit.<br /><br />BETTER YET here is an IDEA!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Our two newspapers and several News Channels in Denver let you comment on news stories on their Internet sites.  I take 1 hour per day now to blog my VOICE onto political articles everyday.  Why because I believe Obama is a dangerous person and should not be President.  (Just and example folks not trying to start something.)<br /><br />My suggestion is that if you believe that informing the masses should be done then go onto large cities newspapers that do this and somehow work the BF into the subject matter. Many people blogging on our Denver News outlets do not live in Denver so choose a BIG City and blog away.  Most only let you do 1000 Characters so be brief.<br /><br />After this election is over maybe we all should organize and start doing this so that we can use the newspapers and news channels get the message out about the BF.  If we did this right a few of us could use the same short news blip and give out prep web sites to the largests cities in the US.  I bet we could hit millions of people out there. Just an idea!<br /><br />Just a suggestion...get a fake gmail address and use that one to do the writing under if you do not want to give your real name to these media outlets.  I am sorry but I do not want these people knowing my real name and most of them ask for a full name.<br /><br />Albert has given us a great opprotunity on this site to meet and organize.  What do you think Albert should we try and organize and get the word out to the large cities?  We will have to be careful in the short blips not to sound like nuts.  But give out gentle information that is helpful and encourages people to check out preping for all kinds of disasters including BF.  <img src="http://www.avianflutalk.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.avianflutalk.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3148" rel="nofollow">Suzi</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Will those over 40 be lowest vaccine priority- new<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> July&nbsp;23&nbsp;2008 at 12:04am<br /><br />OK, I'm game. Anyone else care to try their hand at journalism. H2HPrep, you'll have to explain more about the press release. We just submit something and someone prints it?  <br /><br />I've got some ideas. <br /><br />An analogy using the flipping of a light switch as the final H2H mutation. The switch is in a vacant house. Nobodys been there for 30 years but the owner has been paying the electric bill all this time. The owner lives in another part of the world and we watch as he travels across oceans and countries closer and closer to the house with the switch. Each WHO Phase could parallel to a part of his trip. Maybe he'll fall dead with a heart attack on the front porch. Naaah. <br /><br />There is a big house out on the prairie. Way out in the distance in a big black tornado. Several of the men in the large extended family have noticed the tornado but they have never seen a tornado before and since it does not seem to be moving any closer they decide to let the family run around as usual. No point in getting everyone upset. They don't know this tormado will last 18 months and they should be cleaning out the root cellar and filling it with food and water. But the oldest member of the family, the kindly old uncle has seen a tornado before, when he was very young. He knows what this tornado can do but he has long since decided the family is too big, and he doesn't like some of them and they never listen to him anymore anyway so he decides to wander around pretending to ignore the tornado. ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.avianflutalk.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3319" rel="nofollow">medclinician</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Going back and looking Arkansas Bird Flu Outbreak<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> July&nbsp;22&nbsp;2008 at 8:52pm<br /><br />Do understand, that it is truly amazing how news can sometime emerge a month later after an event. This really has a powerful psyche value in diluting the alarm to the public. Sometimes people never consider, well, if it was there last month, when we will hear what is happening this month - mmm perhaps next month. <br><br>Well - Mexico was keeping tabs on it and still is. <br><br>What I saw was this -<br><a href="http://iht.com/articles/ap/2008/06/26/business/LA-FIN-Mexico-US-Bird-Flu.php" target="_blank"><br>http://iht.com/articles/ap/2008/06/26/business/LA-FIN-Mexico-US-Bird-Flu.php</a><br><br><h1><font size="3">										Mexico prohibits poultry imports from Arkansas over bird flu&nbsp;outbreak</font></h1>This is from AP - so its mainline news<br><br><p><strong><a href="http://iht.com/articles/ap/2008/06/26/business/LA-FIN-Mexico-US-Bird-Flu.php#" target="_blank">MEXICO CITY</a>:</strong> Mexico is banning poultry imports from Arkansas because of a bird flu outbreak in the U.S.&nbsp;state.</p> <p><font color="#ffffff">The Agricultural Department says poultry meat, fertilized eggs, song birds and messenger pigeons are banned&nbsp;indefinitely.</font></p><p><font color="#ffffff"><i><font color="#ff9900">comment: want to back up and let that one sink in. I can't remember any recent or honestly ever hearing of an <b>indefinite</b> ban of anything. Why ban of a cannot hurt humans at all virus in all the meat, eggs, and even the birds themselves? This is kinda of a first. Feel free to comment on this. I would like to know of any permanent Avian bans. Has anyone ever heard and an indefinite ban in Avian History ever? </font></i><br></font></p> <p>Avian influenza cases led to the destruction of 15,000 hens inwestern Arkansas earlier this(last - old aritcle)&nbsp; month. <b>The virus strain was not harmfulto&nbsp;humans.</b></p><p>comment; over and over again. low path in bird can become high path rapidly and when the cleanup squad goes in and preceding almost every human bird flu outbreak, there has been a fair massive bird flu outbreak. <br></p><p>So we can all rest easier knowing that its a big thumbs down from experts on the negligible dangers of a recent mutation in H7 making it more adapted to infesting humans. We all know, as per Avian experts there is no high path in humans. I was told it is only in birds. But&nbsp; then of course missing mentioning that it has been fatal at least one person kind of ruins the placebo effect.</p><p><u>But back to the lurking, insomnia-producing threat:</u> Even though theH7 virus isn’t very dangerous for humans, scientists say it appears tobe evolving in our direction.<font color="#ff9900"> <b>Flu viruses bind toa sugar on respiratory tract cells called sialic acid, which comes inseveral shapes. Last week US scientists reported that H7 viruses fromrecent poultry outbreaks in <font color="#ffffff">North America</font> are starting to bind thehuman form of sialic acid, and losing their ability to bind the birdform. </b>Even worse, an H7 was even isolated from a man with the flu inNew York in 2003 and<font color="#ffffff"> it bound most effectively to the human form</font> &#091;<a href="http://www.newscientist.com/blog/shortsharpscience/2008/06/uk-gets-safe-kind-of-bird-flu-maybe.html?DCMP=ILC-rhts&amp;nsref=ts13_bar" target="_blank"><em>New Scientist</em></a> blog&#093;.</font></p><p>There is my Yonker's guy I always post about. It is because we had a case of Avian in the U.S. in a person which actually occured in 2002, but it wasn't tested properly, so it appeared in 2003. I am always pulling this event out of CDC and CIDRAP'S archives and then it flickers and disappears again. </p>So to restate - H7 is a high mutator. It can jump and kill humans.<b> At least one </b>- and you know one is a start. So every time we get these reports of chickens only having safe H7 - step your foot down hard on on the&nbsp; golf ball warm fuzzy spin- cause that is what it is. <br><br>We need to watch H7N3 - real close. <br><br>Medclincian<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.avianflutalk.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3319" rel="nofollow">medclinician</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Arkansas Hens Avian Flu hmmmmm<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> July&nbsp;22&nbsp;2008 at 8:35pm<br /><br />FYI before I starting putting but Arkansas bird flu news.. you might want to check this out<br><br>FYI Tyson, if researched is massive. If not the main producer andhandler of meat in the U.S., is one of the biggest, and what happens inany Tyson linked facility heads out to Wall Mart, and multiple hugefood chains in the U.S. Wanting to bring things to more current Tysonadventures.. I found this which I though might be an interesting read -<br><br>In Arkansas, the poultry giant Tyson Foods has been busyslaughtering 15,000 hens that tested positive for exposure to a strainof bird flu. State officials say the birds came into contact with aless virulent strain of the virus, <font color="#ffffff">H7N3, which has been known to sickenhumans,<u> but hasn’t caused any deaths.</u></font> The hens are being killed withcarbon dioxide gas, and their carcasses are being buried to avoidspreading the disease.Jon Fitch, director of the Arkansas’ Livestock and PoultryCommission, said officials have a “working theory” on how the hens camein contact with the virus.<font color="#003366"> “<br><br><font color="#ff9900">comment: now that is interesting. Um<b> bold faced untruth as in </b><br><a href="http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/EID/vol10no12/pdfs/04-0961.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/EID/vol10no12/pdfs/04-0961.pdf</a><br><br>human influenza strains.<br>Avian influenza H7 has caused human illness previously,<br>most notably 89 confirmed human infections, including<br><b><font color="#ffffff">one death in the Netherlands in 2003</font></b></font><font color="#ff9900"><br><br>comment: guess they never searched the CDC archives. That couples withCIDRAP case histories and science publication links provide us withsome truly interesting blantant contradictions to common officialstatements which have been repeated dozens of times. We will not namenames or organizations. <br><br>MC</font></font><br>]]>
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   <title>General Discussion : Storm heading for the Gulf?</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.avianflutalk.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=483" rel="nofollow">Penham</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Storm heading for the Gulf?<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> July&nbsp;22&nbsp;2008 at 8:19pm<br /><br />Gulf of Mexico, supposed to hit South Texas, Mexico area]]>
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   <title>General Discussion : I just read this great book!</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.avianflutalk.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1558" rel="nofollow">Gexydaf</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> I just read this great book!<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> July&nbsp;22&nbsp;2008 at 6:51pm<br /><br />I'm so happy you all liked it :D&nbsp; I did see the sequel at Barnes &amp; Noble when I was there a few days ago.&nbsp; &nbsp; It is called The Dead and Gone.&nbsp; Actually sequel isn't the right word, same disaster, but different characters/setting.&nbsp; The summary says "As riveting as <i>Life as We Knew It</i> and even grittier, thiscompanion novel returns to the premise of that previous book to showhow New York City responds to the global disasters that ensue when anasteroid knocks the moon out of orbit."&nbsp; We'll go back over there to pick it up.<br><br>BTW, Life as We Knew it is now available in paperback and can be ordered through most of the big book sellers.<br>]]>
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