After you’ve used your weapon...

Well I'm not going to feed him or her. My first aid supplies are for my family. Since he or she didn't heed my warnings which were many. I guess in worst case situation, (which I think you are talking about) I would just have to make sure they were dead. Hate to think that way but what else is a person going to do?

Edited by Enumclaw,WA

Reload, then shoot him again!

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unfortunately, i agree - i would have to re-load. 

i would not be willing to share my food with someone who had tried to take it from me.

cisco

I cannot answer this question on the grounds that it might be used against me when everything is over. 

 

Hey all, chiming in here with my two cents...

Honestly, it will depend on circumstances.  I won't feel responsible for his/her death.  I did not shoot with the intent to kill, I shot with the intent to STOP them from doing whatever it was that endangered my life or the life of my family.  The result is his fault alone.

If there is a quarantine in effect, but basic services are still operating, I will call 911 for them but will not approach them to assist.  Fear of infection will be my reasoning and my explanation.  I will not shy away from using force, up to and including lethal force, if the situation calls for it.  But I am not a monster either.  I don't know this person, I have no reason to wish them ill or hate them, or to want their life to end.  I simply needed them to not endanger my life or my family's, they wouldn't respond to lesser measures, and this is the result.  If circumstances have come to that point, I believe that my story will be similar to many others the police will have heard, and I expect they'll be sympathetic.  I expect they'll be much too busy to make more of it than necessary, provided I haven't shot him in the back while fleeing.

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by the way a 22long fired at the head is going to damage

Shoot until intruder is no longer alive.  What if this person is going to hurt you and your family???  Not worth the risk. 

If the intruder forced you to shoot him in the first place then he must have presented a lethal threat to you and yours. This being the case then seems to me he continues to represent a deadly threat as long as he is moving. Keep shooting until he stops moving. End of threat.

So says an ex Marine.

Nice thought about a perimeter but some of us live in the city and have 1000 people living within a 400 yd circle. Killing them all might bring on unwanted attention even with BF killing people hither and yon. Im sure many peoples response would be get out of the city but thats not always possible or even desired.

If you were to kill someone, what would you do with the body?

eat it...just kidding.  SICK

Wouldn't burning it really smell bad? And what would the laws be like after the pandemic? Would you be charged with murder or would it even matter at that point? I would hate to think that my husband was walking by someones house and got shot and then burned. It all seems so sick.

I couldn't eat it Nakita, I'm a vegetarian. Could save it for hubby and kids though.  EWE  J/K !!!!

2 rounds center mass from my M-4 Bushmaster clone, and one to the head.

SSS= shoot,shovel,shut-up

Thomas Angel wrote: RainBow wrote: If you were to kill someone, what would you do with the body? Leave it lay where it fell as a warning to others.

Bad answer.  A body on your doorstep or front yard is a breeding ground for disease.  Any idea what the smell and flies will be like after 3 days in 90 degree heat? What about rain?  Great way to start  a cholera epidemic. What if everyone in the neighborhood did that?  If department of health sends a body wagon around for you all to "bring out your dead" then that's one answer, otherwise the neighborhood would do well to band together, find a large yard or vacant lot and make a public mass grave.  Dig the trench long, fill it in as needed to keep the bodies covered as more are added.  This will keep smell, flies and potential for secondary disease at a minimum.

In the interest of public health, bodies will have to be dealt with in a responsible manner.

Nikita, that is sick.  But I love a sick sense of humor and find your solution hilarious.  I would cart the body to the woods and let nature's scavengers take their course.

Warning, possible "TMI" ahead. Strong stomachs proceed at your own discretion.

Thomas, - again I have to ask - how can you know the intentions of someone four football fields away?  They haven't made any hostile moves, perhaps it's a LEO or a health care representative or a community volunteer coming to check and see if your family is all right, if you need anything. You may have signs posted... how are they to know you didn't post those signs, then get sick and need help desperately?  Their errand of mercy might be their death sentence at your hands.  Maybe it's a lost traveler. Maybe it's a relative of yours - can you even recognize someone that far away?  Long distance strike capability is an offensive measure, not a defensive measure.  Things may get a little crazy, but in 1918 things got crazy but the LAW CAME BACK.  Have no doubt in your mind that they will be around and individuals will be held to account for their actions, in the eyes of the law, and in the eyes of whatever spiritual force you hold in regard.

Very few of us have a Bio-Suit, Thomas.  If you have one, I'd love to see a pic of it with your hand in the frame, making a peace sign. 

To dispose of a body (there may be many and the task cannot be shirked) my intention is as follows:  safety goggles, rubber gloves, N95 mask, full length outergarments and undergarments, trash bag smock (3-hole variety) or raincoat.  Rain pants if available. Lay out a shower curtain or bedsheet, use a shovel to roll the body onto the material, roll it up in the material, fold the ends in, secure with duct tape.  Roll the package onto a piece of plywood with a rope attached (a wheel barrow or cart would be nice, but not everyone has one).  Drag the plywood to the burial area.  Roll the package into the hole using the shovel.  Cover to a depth of at least 2 feet (if other bodies are expected but not immediately available) but preferably at least 4 feet.  If you use the 2 foot rule you'll have to excavate some of the 2 feet when the new arrivals get there.  This assumes a long trench at least 5 feet wide and 4 feet deep.  Depth is primarily to prevent predation. Feral dogs can easily dig 2 feet if hungry and motivated by scent.  Spray everything (raincoat, boots, gloves, goggles, plywood, shovel etc) with a 50/50 solution of bleach, rinse with water twice.  Disrobe, launder clothing in water strongly smelling of bleach.  Wash body with water and disinfectant.  Sleep separately from family for 2-5 days (whatever is judged to be the safe incubation period for H2H strain) , using tent outside (back yard?).

Extreme measures, yes, but justifiable I think.  I don't have a bio-suit, and likely won't have one.  I may end up living outdoors in the tent a good bit if there are bodies to be tended on a regular basis.  Honestly I will only be taking responsibilty for bodies in my own neighborhood (about a block in either direction), since to leave them lay will only pose a more severe threat to me and my family as days go by. 

The human body is 70% water, and as we all know water doesn't burn well.  Soak a steak in kerosene or gasoline, overnight (I dare you to actually do this experiment) and put it in a barbecue or fire pit and light it up.  See how much is left when the fire goes out.  Quite a lot.  The building of a funeral pyre is quite an elaborate affair.  There must be much flamable fuel to thoroughly incinerate a human body.  Any leftovers will be consumed and/or dragged around by predators, spreading the zone of infection.  Under the anticipated conditions of a pandemic, it will be rare, I think, where a community can adequately deal with it's dead via creamation.

Sorry if this was too graphic for some readers of the thread, but they were some concerns that needed to be aired.

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 I never even thought about that, good idea. We only live a half a block away from our Funeral home, will check into it.

Mightymouse,

Good points. Here in Fl there is a book " Florida Firearms, Law, Use, ownership" I've got a CW permit and this book has opened my eyse to the lack of common sense of gun laws.  Gunshops may have a similar book in your areas.

Anyway, If there is a home invasion here and I fire a round in the air to frighten them away, and the monkey gets away, he/she can have me arrested for aggravated assault, if found guilty.. mandatory 3 yrs in prison.

Laws now will be the laws later.  Self defense and murder is divided by a very fine line. Especially if an innocent is shot from 400yds and the person's family member is VIP.-K

I learned a long time ago to have a "throw-away". BIG Knife will do, make sure it is not part of a set, something different from what you have for your personal use. Also, make sure your fingerprints or animal dander is not on it. If you have to shoot to kill, best to have them inside your home. Leaves all kinds of forensic evidence. Also risky for your personal safety!! Think it thru. Are you willing to take a kill shot? Most people, in fact, are NOT. Think The Thing Thru Theroughly!!

OK so you shoot and kill the bad guy and then properly dispose of the body and then shut up....
and then plan on what to tell your family,your kids
and if you do kill someone and shut-up you WILL get PTSD
Plan to have an after shooting plan

Ok, what if...this person is a scared kid or whoever with no kind of weapon just panicked all to hell because maybe this person has no family or can't get to them and is scared to death about what is going on around him or her. Despite your warnings the person is so desperate and and is pleading with you  for help. What do you do? I'm banking on this situation happeing a lot. And, if you shoot and like originally the person is injured do you still move forward and "finish the job"?

A human being pleading to another human being in desperation can be a very scary and dramatic scene. Think about it!

daisygirl,

I agree with stormriderfla; deadly force is last resort.  Scared, panicked, desperate and pleading kid comes no where remotely close to using deadly force.  If I could help I would, if I couldn't I'd tell him to leave.  If he wouldn't, I'd live and let live until he became a threat to me or my family.  Then it's a different story.  If there's a different option out there in the "what if" world, I don't know what it is.