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    Posted: August 26 2014 at 9:28am
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WHO pulls staff from Sierra Leone Ebola lab after doctor infected

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Aug 26 (Reuters) - The World Health Organization has withdrawn staff from a laboratory testing for Ebola at Kailahun in eastern Sierra Leone after one of its medical workers there was infected during the worst ever outbreak of the disease, a WHO spokesperson said.

"It's a temporary measure to take care of the welfare of our remaining workers," WHO spokesperson Christy Feig told Reuters. "After our assessment, they will return."

The WHO has sent nearly 400 people from its own staff and partner organisations to fight the outbreak in West Africa. It said on Sunday that a foreign health worker it had deployed in Sierra Leone had been infected. (Reporting by Umaru Fofana; Writing by Daniel Flynn)

The news coming out keeps pointing to differing transmission routs or a much more virulent virus than we are being told. Not to be alarmist but the rate of doctors and nurses becoming infected baffles me.

When the lab techs are getting infected, and the WHO closes the lab and withdraws it's people to review procedures... that is not good.
These testing facility's would be a level 4, right?
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Ebola outbreak 'worse than we'd feared,' CDC chief says on visit to West Africa

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CDC Director Thomas Frieden, who is in Liberia to assess the Ebola outbreak, said today the contagion is “even worse than we’d feared.”

“This is an absolute emergency,” Frieden told WSB Radio in a phone interview this morning. “We have never seen anything on this scale with Ebola before. Unfortunately, this situation is going to get worse before it gets better. We’ve not yet turned the tide. The outbreak is ahead of our response.”

Frieden, who heads the Atlanta-based U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said Liberia desperately needs to set up treatment centers across the country that can safely handle Ebola patients, giving the patients a chance to survive and also keeping them out of the community, where they can spread the virus to others.

“We’ve seen patients with Ebola with nowhere to go, an increasing number of corpses put onto the street,” Frieden said. “A whole system of picking up and cremating corpses has had to be developed.”

Cremation, which was not culturally acceptable in Liberia before the outbreak, is now widespread practice, the CDC chief said.

The death toll in Liberia and neighboring Guinea and Sierra Leone now stands at 1,427, the World Health Organization said, with total infections of about 2,600 since the outbreak was identified in March.

The Associated Press reported today that two more cases of Ebola infection have been identified in Nigeria.

“The numbers just keep going up, and the need for a global emergency response is enormous,” Frieden told WSB.

Two American charity workers who were flown from Liberia to Atlanta for treatment of Ebola infection at Emory University Hospital were released last week and do not pose a threat to public health, their doctors said. Dr. Kent Brantly, the second of the two to be discharged, noted upon his release that his fight against the disease is at an end, but the real fight, in West Africa, is just beginning.

Frieden, in his WSB Radio interview, warned that failure to control the outbreak could be catastrophic.

“This isn’t just a risk to Liberia and West Africa,” Frieden said. “With this kind of transmission, every day it goes on, it increases the risk of spread to other countries in Africa, other countries in the region.

“The impact on not just from Ebola but on the delivery of healthcare, on economies, on families and societies. It’s huge. It’s absolutely an emergency.”

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/ebola-outbreak-out-of-control-frieden-says-in-libe/ng85M/
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I agree Pheasant. Way too many healthcare workers being infected, and secondary cases.  Either it's a little beyond just contracting it via bodily fluids, or it's contagious during a certain phase of the incubation.  Either way, we are missing something here.  The old bodily fluids as "only" mode is leaving to many unanswered questions.   Unless there is another source i.e. dogs or other animals.
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Ah, the WHO lab... Weren't we just discussing this like yesterday or so? If doctors and nurses are getting infected then lab techs are next because I don't think many of the testing locations are biosafety level 4. And if this particular WHO lab is then it has to make you wonder what other ways this virus is being transmitted than just the comforting ones we keep getting told.

And I must admit, Friedan has a very tough job.
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Exactly Albert,

"Either it's a little beyond just contracting it via bodily fluids, or it's contagious during a certain phase of the incubation"

That is what i conclude as well, take the sawyer string of infections...If we look at the documented timeline (that WHO put out), and then cross reference that with the Who documented transmission routes, incubation period etc; simple logic says some of the cases do not line up with documented patterns...

On a side note: if a person doing testing does not follow protocol and infects themselves do you shut the whole lab down?

Alternately: if a lab tech gets infected while following protocol you would be looking for the virus behaving in ways you didn't expect....just my 2 cents.

One of the great things about this forum not withstanding the conjecture, assumptions, alarmist rhetoric etc; is the ability of us all to extrapolate and discern information and compare it to known fact to come to our own conclusions...and logic and fact often leads to the truth.
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It reads to me that they don't know how it occured. No obvious stick, or forgot to suit up, etc.
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I will say this, and I have been known to be critical of officials in the past, but the WHO and CDC are doing a fantastic job. Information is being left out in this fast evolving situation. Casual contact via coughing could be at play. Coughing is a symptom, and it's possibly being over looked, but that symptom and shedding the virus should be considered   We've talked about casual contact, which would be smilar. The virus also survives on surfaces identically in the same fashion as to influenza. I'm guessing surface contact - which is why this virus should never reach North America or Europe.
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A leaking centrifuge, a warped seal is all it takes. I bet samples are in a CL3 hood at best. They will kill the live virus in the blood samples before working on it , PCR etc. If treatment or reagents aren't diluted properly then virus may not become inactivated. They also test for D dimer assay on the samples as it can be both diagnostic and prognostic.   They will be risk assessing and checking at what stage the exposure has occurred.



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Whatever the method of infection, something somewhere was badly miscalculated.  Once again the virus is underestimated.

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