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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote carbon20 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2018 at 3:14pm
sorry my point was not to belittle ,it was to point out America is not the be all and end all of of everything,

i am and always will be a supporter of the USA ,BRITAIN ,Canada and here Australia,why 

BECAUSE we all share the same values,

Mostly...lol

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Spot on Carbon my friend.  That is how I feel. 

America is a good friend - not a perfect one.  But, that is OK, we are imperfect too - for all that we mean well.  Think of me as Irish or Brit; either way America is an ally, as are Australia Canada and NZ. 
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No matter what Trump does - how much he accomplishes - the haters are never going to quit. They will be debating about Hillary long after we know she and Bill operated a pay for play organization and were in collusion with the Russians.

Reality - they are about to save the U.S. from a nuclear war with North Korea - or at least the destruction of Seoul, South Korea by a nuke or at least guns.

Obama did nothing to make our world more peaceful and by his negligence allowed Isis to flourish in Syria and Russia to move their forces their.  The he gave Iran almost a billion dollar which financed the develop of nukes and terrorist. Students don't think Trump should get the peace prize - but they haven't a intelligent clue as to why they think Obama got it.

https://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/2009/press.html

Well here is some reality for those who live in the misty realms of social justice warrior delusion...
Trump may get it.

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Dream on, Med.
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The North Korean's SUCKING you in..............

You really must be blind............
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10 points to Trump for the NK thing
minus 100 for denying climate change and actually shutting down research
how many people are going to die because of his inaction and IGNORANCE ???
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NO points to Trump on the NK thing....he's being set up by a regime that is masterful in deceit and double-dealing. 

Halting testing?  No big deal, they have their warhead design now.  Pakistan doesn't test either, but they are still building "Islamic bombs" (*crickets*)

Destroying his test site?  Kim already destroyed it with so many tests.  

Surrender his nukes?  Yeah, that'll be the day.  

Let prisoners go?  He sure knows how to jerk American heartstrings & pull Trump's chain.  

Trump handed something that is invaluable to Kim = prestige and international credibility.  This is a guy who killed his own half-brother with outlawed VX nerve agent.  

Nobel prize?  LOL
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Ten points in Trump's hand - for the moment.  We are waiting to see if Kim snatches them back, or even if some are illusions.  It is also possible that Kim will try to snatch things back and Trump will catch him - it is far harder to con a conman than someone honest.

I think Kim is pulling a fast one.  Whether or not Trump is faster remains to be seen.  As for the minus scores?  They still stand.
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Come to think of it, ten points in his hand anyway - from his supporters.  Even if the NK deal goes awry, they will all believe he won anyway so the election points are still there - even if they are an illusion.

Ring any bells, Med?
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Well, lhe dropped the ten points.  Kim did not even have to snatch them back. http://www.avianflutalk.com/north-korea-threatens-to-cancel-us-summit_topic37339_post270356.html#270356

Pompeo was doing so well.  Now, THAT is an own goal.
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Sooo....Dodd-Frank is being repealed. Now we have to trust that Wall Street will regulate itself. Just like they failed to do in 1987 and 2008. And if the next financial crisis happens with Trump at the helm, we'll be relying on a guy with a bought and paid for "Gentleman's Degree" in economics and a string of failed business ventures to prevent a second depression. 

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good to have you back ,Jacksdad missed you Wink
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Thank you, sir Big smile

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Have been silent now for quite a long time until today.

Just finished watching the news for what is a huge win for our president Donald Trump.  This was historic - and from a regime threatening to blow us up with nuke to a meeting and a handshake and working together for peace - I can say and mean again - he is one of the BEST President's in America in the last 50 years.

The lowest job rate in decades, especially for blacks. Many of his highest and most influential people working with him are women and with the recent approval of the first female head of the CIA in history - we are seeing a change with a president who is more than promises - but actions.

We may be on the verge of the end of the Korean War - a re-unification of Korea into a profitable richer more successful part of the world economy than ever before.

History in the making.  I am proud of our president - the economy - the jobs - addressing the issues that need to be handled and doing something about it.

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Med,do you understand why no other American president has met with, any leader of NK,if you did you would realise this is not a WIN for Chump,it just proves to the rest of the world chump has no Morals and will say and do anything to make Himself look good, unfortunately it may work for the uneducated masses, but for most we see right through the Bulls..t,
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Proud? Really?  CO2 up, Black lung at record levels, jobs up but wages down.  Healtcare almost nonexistant except for the richest?

A President who sexually assaults women?
A President who has sex with a sex worker whilst his wife is pregnant?
A racist President?
A President with no understanding of how much damage he has done to America's international reputation?

And yet you are proud of him because he is meeting with a jumped up dictator who is doing his reputation the world of good but has only a very slim chance of producing anything usefull!

WHY?
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well said, technophobe,Big smileClapClapClapWink
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Thank you Carbon, but I am just getting started.

Now I have calmed down I can tackle the summit itself.

Trump has (possibly) scored a small win.  He is 'talking it up' for self aggrandisement.  But the very fact that there was a meeting is historic.  Then the trading started.  Dead

Kim achieved a huge win in that Trump agreed to stop the war games in the region.  He scored another in the opportunities back home to sell this as a propaganda coop.  He can take home the film of the meeting and say:  "Look I talk as an equal with the leader of the West."  Believe me, that will not help relax the iron grip he holds over the North Korean people.  This is the kind of acceptance (apparent or real is unimportant) all dictators crave.  It helps maintain control!

Kim also said he agreed that de-nuclearisation was a goal.  Of course, he agreed to no inspections, timetable or specifics.  Without those things the agreement is just words - but that will not stop Herr Trumpenfuhrer from claiming it a huge win.  Just like the dictator he met, he can use that for propaganda - and he will.

What a wonderful, powerfull, historic win for both sides - in the propaganda stakes.  Clap
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while the world is watching his farce,I Wonder what China's,long game is,after all this is smoke and mirrors ,all coordinated by China........watch what they doing in the south China sea..........and else where .....
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I could go on:

Jobs up, yes, but wages down and most of the legislation to protect workers in the workplace has been removed.  Then, if you are unlucky enough to be injured in this riskier environment (the employer having dropped your healthcare - as the loss of Obamacare no longer forced him to do his bit and on the lower wages you coud not afford any) you are just left to rot or die on welfare/skid row.  The rise in black lung, I keep harping on about, is a case in point.  I ecpect you are retired, Med, so no problem there.

Racial divides and profiling are returning your country toward segregarion.  Being black in America today seems almost as bad as it was 30 years ago.  Not everything Obama did was all that good, but he did do some good stuff.  Trump appears to be determined to sweep all of it away, regardless of usefullness.  Taking everything else into account, I can only conclude that is because Obama was not completely white.  But that is ok 'coz you are,.  Eh, Med?

CO2 ts at record levels and the seas are starting to rise.  It will soon be bad news for Florida, but not quite yet.  It is already disasterous for Samoa.  That's OK, you don't live there, Med.

Would you pander to Kim?  It is not as if the propaganda coop would affect you personally,  You are not a North Korean after all.   What I am trying to say is:  '"I'm alright Jack" is nothing to be proud of.'


I can't comment on your opinion of Trump's sexual proclivities, I won't even guess at yours.  I can't comment on collusion with the Russians, as not all our politically active people avoid it either.  To think Trump avoided it is to fail to understand how persasive Russian agents can be, but that is not to say he is guilty of anything other than a moment of naivete.  Everyone on the planet is guilty of that sometimes. 

I can point out that what is said, is not necessarily true.  That is the case with all politicians, but rather more so in Trump's case.  I can also say that improved finances for the country don't necessarily translate into better lives for most people.  They always benefit the rich however.  Oh yes! Trump is certainly one of those!

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