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Originally posted by carbon20 carbon20 wrote:



Image result for chamberlain &quot;peace in our time&quot;

In black and white images it is quite difficult to see how the colours match - yellow and orange!
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North Korea is giving up it's nukes? Probably not. They've been promising that for years. And the "pledge" that was signed is practically worthless and heavily favors North Korea anyway. They negotiated far better apparently. How ironic.

And I'm not sure that starting negotiations by threatening to destroy North Korea with nuclear weapons is really in the spirit of the Nobel Peace Prize. Bringing about peace (something this is unlikely to achieve) with shotgun wedding tactics might be a stretch.

It looks like Rudy Guliani is letting Manafort know it's okay to keep quiet and take one for the team. He suggested today that it can be "cleaned up" with some presidential pardons. If that isn't witness tampering, I don't know what is.





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do they think everyone is blind,

do they have a plan for the next election!!!!!!??????

Net Neautrality gone !!!!!!!!!! what have you done

BIG BROTHER and Herr Goebblels will have a field day,

bring on the Soma......aka Methe/Oploids (read the book below)

you just fell right into their laps.............

but then what do you expect from the masses..............


fixated on Bling, no real substance...............

into that "Brave New World" we go..................

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_New_World
Brave New World is a dystopian novel written in 1931 by English author Aldous Huxley, and published in 1932. Largely set in a futuristic World State of ...
Pages‎: ‎311 (1932 ed.); 63,766 words
Country‎: ‎United Kingdom
Cover artist‎: ‎Leslie Holland
Published‎: ‎1932 (‎Chatto & Windus‎)


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Nice to meet a fellow Huxley fan.

You can't blame the gammas though, Carbon.  Thank Ford! They weren't bred to think.
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Originally posted by jacksdad jacksdad wrote:

North Korea is giving up it's nukes? Probably not. They've been promising that for years. And the "pledge" that was signed is practically worthless and heavily favors North Korea anyway. They negotiated far better apparently. How ironic.

And I'm not sure that starting negotiations by threatening to destroy North Korea with nuclear weapons is really in the spirit of the Nobel Peace Prize. Bringing about peace (something this is unlikely to achieve) with shotgun wedding tactics might be a stretch.

It looks like Rudy Guliani is letting Manafort know it's okay to keep quiet and take one for the team. He suggested today that it can be "cleaned up" with some presidential pardons. If that isn't witness tampering, I don't know what is.



Well said, JD!  

a) NK give up nukes?  Never.  They will talk and negotiate as a way of buying time to build even more.  They can blow up their testing sites = now that they have a proven warhead design, they no longer need to test - it would be a waste of fissile material. 

b) Manafort may be keeping quiet because he is afraid of what the Russians will do to him & his family if he says too much: 


But Manafort has refused to do so (flip). Even though he’s facing 25 charges that could easily put him in prison for the rest of his life — and even though the evidence for many if not most of these charges appears quite strong — he’s pleaded not guilty to everything, and has given no public indication he’s considering flipping.

Why? Again, one possible explanation is he just has nothing to flip with. Either he wasn’t involved in collusion or he has nothing on Trump or anybody else Mueller cares about. Alternatively, maybe Manafort is just holding out hope that he can beat the charges.

A darker possibility is that, given an apparent series of Russia-linked assassinationsin the WestManafort fears violent reprisals against himself or his family should he give information implicating Russians.



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@technophobe,"the chrysalids" by any chance?

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Yeah, Carbon!  Always wished I could do all that.  Every Windham I could get my hands on (John Beynon too).
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i'v only ever met two other people that have read we Windham
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Believe it or not, my childhood best friend's mum used to read him as bedtime stories.  I was only there for a few "episodes" from each book so I had to find out for myself.  My own mum addicted me to Huxley and Orwell. 

Stupidly, I did not think of mysef as a syfy fan until I was 11 when a book of short stories led me on to Asimov - my first love! Then the addiction took hold big time!  When my teenage female peers were reading Mills & Boon, I was reading McCaffrey and Edmund Cooper. 

I tried a bit of fantasy - but it was all too childish!  I think I was in the true golden age of syfy which those early giants had given birth to.  I had Aldiss Ballard, Simak, Dick, Dickson, Asimov, Coney and Holdstock - whom I was lucky enough to meet.

Then came cyberpunk and my love faltered for a while, I even cheated with a fantasy writer (Pratchett).

But it is back with a new field of writers, which sadly, I never have the time to read.  Sigh!
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Ps.  The list is short for lack of space, not writers.
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I grew up with my head buried in stuff from the golden ages of science fiction - Asimov, Heinlein, EE 'Doc' Smith, Pohl, Del Rey, Anderson,  Bradbury, Clarke, etc. I love the newer stuff, but there was something about that period. Often totally improbable with science that makes no sense now, but awesome nonetheless.


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It was good for the science of its day.  For instance, my favourite short story is "Dust Rag" by Hal Clement.  Awesome!

Those writers were all on my list, but I forgot to add Bob Shaw and Harlan Elison in. (SLAP WRIST!)

Sigh! Glory Days!
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Larry Nivien "Ringworld"and "Neutron Star",

with Jerry Purnell for the "Mote in Gods Eye"and "FootFall",

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"Childhood's End" by Arthur C Clarke (and later "Songs of Distant Earth") made one hell of an impression when I first read it at the age of ten or so. Lots of really good stuff out there that will transport you a long, long way from everyday life.


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Can't argue with any of them, Bernard and I are srill occasionally laughing at "Elephants in elevator shoes flying paper aeroplanes!" 

I would like to add "The Alien Way" By Gordon Dickson which is still the best 'why would an alien be alien' theory I have ever encountered and (just because I am female and even in syfy love a tragic romance) "Hello Summer Goodbye" By Michael Coney.

'And, I just can't resist a twist in the tale.

I get a bit annoyed at some modern stuff, especially films!  Syfy blockbusters usually colossaly dissapoint, through bad (or even nonexistant) science and glaring plot holes.  Whilst all my friends were ooh-ing and aaah-ing at the opening sequence of Star Wars, I was bemoaning the lack of realism, shouting in the cinema:  "YOU CAN'T HAVE ANY SOUND IN SPACE!!!"  It quite spoiled the franchise for me.


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Here is a great romance titled "The Nukebook":


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I did say most - seen that and loved it - especially the representation of the tessersact.
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Ps., sorry for the book cover.  In retrospect, I realise, there are things you just can't un-see which can haunt your dreams forever.  SORRY!
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I am still haunted by the wired brain in C.S.Lewis' The Hideous Strength  [although I am not sure about bringing the Merlin myth into a SciFi book Wink]

The books that I find interesting  are the ones that tend to be good a describing human reactions to possible technology / different biology - in this case it doesn't matter if the science if a bit off.



BTW. That cover picture was for a horror film

BTW (2) Not one of the book cover pictures of the SciFi books that I have is an accurate depiction of the story within - is the some rule that the artist is not allowed to read the book first?
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