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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ro-nq8rwKiM MrMBB33 "Michael" becoming a cat3 (or maybe even 4 ????) hurricane-big storm.
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DJ; According to MrMBB333 there is so much warm water in the Gulf of Mexico "Michael" could reach cat-3 status before hitting the SE US. Extreme stormsurge and extreme rain on it's way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjWSFGKcRRU Also BPEarthwatch expecting "Michael" to be "big". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAtsmjHbFoI Landfall most likely wednesday. "Nadine" could be forming in the Caribbean Sea-sept 16 south of western Cuba. "Sergio" may reach Arizona, New Mexico over western Mexico Friday. (In a best scenario limited damage and an end to drought, enough drinkingwater. In the worst scenario damfaillures, water-infrastructure damaged that is bringing water to SW-US) Extreme weather, landslides did kill over 12 people in Central America (Honduras, Nicaragua, El Salvador)https://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-6250713/Tropical-Storm-Michael-drenches-Honduras.html Red Tide http://www.thebigwobble.org/2018/10/ive-been-here-all-my-life-and-ive-never.html and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBzeIteiqJI |
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On "Florence" http://www.thebigwobble.org/2018/10/clouds-of-monstrous-hyperaggressive.html
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/storminfo/ DJ; At the moment several storms posing a threat for the US (Arizona-Sergio, Michael (next name on the list https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at4+shtml/085347.shtml?cone#contents from Alabama to the NE-US) and even remnants of "Walaka"moving towards Alaska (!!!!) Also India, Yemen/Oman, Spain etc may face storms. https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/Caribbean-Disturbance-Eyeing-Central-Gulf-Coast and https://severe.worldweather.wmo.int/ https://robinwestenra.blogspot.com/2018/10/much-higher-than-normal-temperatures-at.html All those storms have to do with the disrupted jet-stream wich is caused by a hot Arctic-bringing even more warmth to the Arctic region. Tropical Tidbits now having TEN stormsystems as current storms is extreme ! DJ-Here in the Netherlands "Leslie" may bring extreme warm weather next week, Ireland may get the storm.... |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyldpoeHKCs In2thinair on Rosa and Sergio moving towards Baja California and SW USA. Two mondays (oct 1 and 8) may see a lot of rain most likely in Arizona-possibly in South California.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLZYivKEtVs Robert Scribler; Rosa could dump 1 year rain amount in two days. DJ-There is a relationship between hurricanes and earthquakes. Moving large amounts of water(weight) is moving pressure. This means an increase of chances for quakes in Mexico and SW-USA. https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/Kirk-Drenches-Barbados-Rosa-Cat-4-Medicane-Threatens-Greece DJ-"Trami" could do a lot of damage in Japan. Japan did see a lot of extreme weather this year. MrMBB333https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw0w6EnWAlQ A gigantic storm in the Atlantic moving towards Europe..... |
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CRS, DrPH-the link did not work (for me at least) but I can imagine the horror.....instead of cattle it could have been a (school)bus etc.
Just like Texas-Harvey 2017 the Carolines now have extreme flooding mixed with extreme (all kind) polution-wich may cause problems for years to come. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nscQfUxieqE In2thinair-remnants of Florence may bring extreme rain-again-to the Carolinas. Most of the time hurricanes after the US move east towards Europe.) "Kirk" https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at2+shtml/024257.shtml?cone#contents may be a limited risk (main risks for all countries is in other extreme weather events). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Atlantic_hurricane_season#Season_effects "Florence"-so far-caused damage of (over) 38 billion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_costliest_Atlantic_hurricanes "Florence" already at place 6 of most costliest (US Atlantic) hurricanes.(Notice that almost all of the costliest hurricanes are from after 2000-so recent !) |
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This is really bizarre, and directly tied to climate change...please click on the link and watch the video. Sad.
https://twitter.com/spahn711/status/1043298533519097858/video/1 Terrible! I just watched a herd of cattle get swept away under a bridge in floodwaters just SE of Fittsville, OK after 13+ inches of rain flooded their entire field. #okwx #rain #flood #flooding #StormHour @spann @ReedTimmerAccu @JimCantore |
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https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/09/23/574932/Video-Tornado-rips-through-Canadas-Ottawa-suburb and https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/09/23/574930/At-least-one-person-dies-in-Texas-floods
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzDMcm4mDVc MrMBB333; the extreme weather that brought tornado's to Canada will move towards NW Europe to bring extreme wind/rain in Norway, north UK-coming thursday. https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo.php?basin=atlc&fdays=5DJ-It is unclear how the Atlantic hurricane season will go coming week-but it is far from over ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKgxrT2zkSEand https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/Kirk-Forms-in-Eastern-Atlantic-TD-11-Little-Threat |
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One of the unforeseen effects of an increase in hurricanes is the impact upon the US agricultural sector.
I am a consultant in the US food industry, and have long argued that storing hog waste in open ponds was a recipe for disaster! https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2018/9/18/17873632/hurricane-florence-flooding-hog-lagoon-waste-coal-ash-north-carolina[ |
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-"Helene" moved to UK/Ireland supposed to have done little damage-"Ali" just north of "Helene" did do a lot of damage. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018%E2%80%9319_European_windstorm_season#Storm_Ali (DJ-Did some of the force of Helene transfer to Ali ?)
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-scotland-45578967/storm-ali-hundreds-queue-at-glasgow-buchanan-street-for-buses-to-get-home and https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-45581155/the-path-of-storm-ali -"Florence"did claim 40 lives in the US. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Florence#Aftermath Proberbly to early to say what the damage is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Atlantic_hurricane_season <17billion) -"Kirk" and "Leslie" are the next names on the 2018 Atlantic Hurricane List. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWc9EfBAx1k and https://www.ventusky.com/?p=45;-48;2&l=wind-10m&t=20180929/12 has them both by the end of this month (and a hurricane south of Italy in the Mediterranean Sea). https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo.php?basin=atlc&fdays=5 -"Florence" could split up and become two storms again in the Atlantic-coming week ? https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/After-Florence-Whats-Next-Atlantic The north-part of (ex)"Florence" will reach the UK and Ireland as a storm coming weekend. The south-part of "Florence" will hang on in the Mid-Atlantic and could-in time-reform (maybe even be named "Florence" again-NHC has to decide if a depression as a remnant of a hurricane-becoming a hurricane again will get its "old"name). - (In the article also "Medicane" south of Italy ?)http://www.severe-weather.eu/mcd/extreme-rainfall-associated-with-intense-cyclone-over-the-tyrrhenian-sea-until-satuday/https://www.meteoalarm.eu/en_UK/0/0/IT019-Sardegna.html Hurricane season is far from over the European storm season just started. https://www.meteoalarm.eu/index.php?lang=en_UK&day=0&AT=0 |
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https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/Carolinas-Struggle-Florences-1-in-1000-Year-Rains and https://water.weather.gov/ahps/?current_color=all¤t_type=all&fcst_type=obs&conus_map=d_map¢er_point_lat=39.03150099999935¢er_point_lon=-98.63671799999837&default_zoom=4
https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/Climate-Changes-Influence-Hurricane-Florence-Wetter-and-Larger-Storm DJ-Warmer Sea Surface Temperature (SST) means more hurricanes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF20O6aPJw8&t=9s MrMBB333-more dust from the Sahara-Africa prevent hurricanes forming. Yet extreme amounts of rain are a climate change link. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-18/only-3-homeowners-parts-hurricane-slammed-north-carolina-have-flood-insurance The total costs/effects of "Florance" will show in years not coming weeks. |
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http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/u-s-national-news/3168-north-carolina-nuclear-plant-declares-emergency and almost the same https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-17/inaccessible-north-carolina-nuclear-plant-declares-unusual-event-during-storm
http://www.thebigwobble.org/2018/09/floodwaters-rise-as-killer-storm-stalks.html DJ-The Brunswick nuclear plant is still getting electricity to run the plant-had not to fall back on generators. Worst case could be that they are not able to get rid of cooling water due to floods-employees getting exhausted. (The chances for a Fukushima-scenario most likely are as good as 0%-unless situation gets much worse. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-14/florence-may-be-costliest-storm-us-history-170-billion-damage) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Florence (getting updated dailey and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Atlantic_hurricane_season In the short term there is no other storm on its way to the US. https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo.php?basin=atlc&fdays=5-still "Florence" will bring large amounts of rain-other extreme weather events are possible. https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/Florences-Flood-Threat-Expands-Inland |
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DJ-Looks like extreme damage on its way; http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/u-s-national-news/3158-47-3-inches-of-rain-in-48-hours-and-it-s-still-raining-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fayetteville,_North_Carolina
Looking at https://www.google.nl/maps/@33.9546001,-78.004346,964a,35y,44.66t/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=nl any news about the close to the Cape-Fear-river Nuclear plant ? https://www.duke-energy.com/our-company/about-us/power-plants https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-14/florence-may-be-costliest-storm-us-history-170-billion-damage https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at1+shtml/152250.shtml?rainqpf#contents https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/Dire-Flood-Threat-Carolinas-Florences-Rains-Continue: Relentless rainbands sweeping around Tropical Storm Florence continue to drench parts of North and South Carolina already waterlogged after days of torrential downpours. Florence’s center—located about 40 miles west of Myrtle Beach, SC, at 11 am EDT Saturday, with top sustained winds down to 45 mph—was drifting west at just 2 mph. This painfully slow progress, together with Florence’s vast field of moisture, is a recipe for catastrophic rains through the weekend and potentially devastating floods into the coming week. Several rivers across the region are already predicted to set all-time record crests by Tuesday or Wednesday, including the Lumber and Cape Fear rivers, which caused massive flooding just two years ago during Hurricane Matthew. Philippines; http://www.thebigwobble.org/2018/09/a-storm-surge-four-storeys-high-wind.html |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYvMMq1YTmI Robert Scribler noticing global sea-ice is getting even lower.
DJ-The several hurricanes active at the moment-both Atlantic and Pacific-seem to move towards the Arctic next week (and will bring us here in the Netherlands extreme warm temperatures +30C !!!). So far the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Atlantic_hurricane_season looks "mild". Still extreme weather is more than just hurricanes. Insurence-damages may be extreme this year-also drought (=wildfires) and extreme rain-events are above normal. https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/Florences-1-100-Year-Storm-Surge-Breaks-All-Time-Records (DJ-The loss of life in the US should and could have been prevented. Coming days will bring a lot of rain in the Eastern US-how much damage that will bring we have to find out.) http://www.thebigwobble.org/2018/09/20-kilotons-of-carbon-dioxide.html Iceland Katla-volcano. DJ-Arctic earthquakes may release large amounts of methane, co2 etc. https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2018/unexpected-future-boost-of-methane-possible-from-arctic-permafrost "Unexpected" is this science ??? DJ-From a Dutch-most likely European-perspective the US way of dealing with storms seems to be absurd and careless, ignorent. |
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https://www.lightningmaps.org/?lang=nl#m=sts;t=4;s=0;o=0;b=16.81;ts=0;z=5;y=35.4988;x=-79.1792;d=2;dl=2;dc=0;tc=1;tr=1;
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-14/im-not-going-lie-im-scared-300000-lose-power-hurricane-florence-makes-landfall DJ-There is some discussion on wether hurricanes can damage a country for a longer time. For me-DJ-it should not be a question. You will not get investments when new storms are a certainty. We have to deal with climatechange NOW ! It is not only Trump who is failing. Most countries fail ! Many countries signed the Paris-climate-agreement and then still do not enough. Most likely it is the public that will have to make changes-lead the way ! (Good news seems to be that Florence seems to be the only hurricane damaging the US. Maybe Isaac could bring some damage next week. The Philippines are facing a major typhone. It could be far worse.) |
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Great stuff, DJ! Thanks as always for your contributions!
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https://climatereanalyzer.org/wx/fcst/#nam.florence-lc.gust10-mslp
Another addictive internet tool ! http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/u-s-national-news/3150-homes-being-smashed-by-20-waves-collapsing-streets-inundated-with-water-sand-electric-outages-spreading In2thinair : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VySSC0T_7LI I noticed a M2.6 earthquake in South Carolina, "Florence"related ? https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo.php?basin=atlc&fdays=5 |
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That's amazing, Chuck! Thanks! Its addictive
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This is an amazing website to view worldwide weather patterns in real time, including hurricanes in the Atlantic and Pacific!
https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-80.47,24.15,434 |
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DJ-"Florence" itself can be very destructive for the South-East US. It looks like "Joyce" may follow "Florence" at the end of the week via Texas and then-possibly- moving to South Carolina-Virginia. Maybe even followed-next week-by "Isaac".
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ "Joyce" at this moment has a 70% chance of forming in 5 days in the Gulf of Mexico. "Isaac" is still in the Atlantic and expected to go between Venezuela and Cuba https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at4+shtml/030102.shtml?cone#contents As I mentioned earlier-there is some statistical coincidence of hurricanes with earthquakes. Movement of large amounts of water=movement of pressure on the Earth's crust. Several people also mentioned the risk for nuclear plants in the US. Nuclear (and other) plants need cooling water. Flooding can stop the influx of cooling water-overheating as a possible outcome. Also energyplants need electricity to function. At Fukushima the energygrid did brake down AND diesel-generators broke down-this caused the meltdowns. Such a scenario is a (small) possibility for the US. Extreme flooding and wind will most likely bring severe damage to the SE-US infrastructure. (Rail-)roads, electricity,(air)ports may be out of function for weeks or months. Also many healthissues involved-spread of disease, lack of medication and care. This may mean the coming influenza-winter-season may see more fatalities in that region. Prepare-stay safe-get out if you live in the area ! |
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Several hurricanes and storms may become a major risk for the US the coming week (and some of those storms may reach Europe later on).
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-09/hurricane-florence-could-cause-massive-damage-hundreds-miles-inland "Florence" in a worst case scenario could "hang out" for the North Carolina coast for 3 to 4 days as a cat-4 maybe even cat 5 hurricane. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvR0mDJps-k In2thinair is trying to describe the several "systems" on the move. https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/More-Flo-Latest-Helene-Isaac-Olivia-Paul-Mangkhut Hawaii, Texas, US Mariana Islands/Guam also facing "severe weather". https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/Hurricane-Florence-Expected-Rapidly-Intensify-Serious-Rainfall-Threat-US-East-Coast DJ-Hurricanes can destroy the US-they are on their way doing so in the coming years due to climate change. "Florence" may bring severe damage possibly to even New York-effecting global trade. Damages could/will go into the billions-long term damage not expressed in numbers will be that coastal area's will become area's not to put any money in-des-invest, stop activities-since the chances for flooding, wind etc. are making profit (or survival) hard. What could become "Joyce" may effect oil production in Texas, Gulf-of-Mexico. There have been in the past also earthquakes related to hurricanes (and the movement of very large amounts of oceanwater-so pressure on the earths crust). With-at present-already a lot of quakes-the (east and central) US may see M4+ quakes ? (Also related to fracking) |
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With Florence, Helena and Isaac on their way the 2018 hurricane season could bring a lot of damage to the US.
Already extreme weather did do a lot of damage around the globe. Japan, China (a.o.) getting hit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imBMuYnaCGk In2thinair https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwwUdWsNckI and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ze1PpAC4ruY Robert Scribler https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GguFxZz4WmE Levi Cowan/Tropical Tidbit https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ (DJ-Since a lot of hurricanes from the Atlantic first move west then north and east "we" in Europe often deal with hurricanes as (strong) storms. Sometimes those hurricanes end up as storms in the Arctic, bringing high temperatures and wind-so increasing melt.) |
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CRS,DrPH, you are correct. "Bomb cyclones" are getting very strong-I should rename this item; "Can extreme weather destroy the US" or something like that.
Of course other parts of the globe do get more extreme weather as well-some area's can deal with it much less than the US. (Bangla Desh is one of those countries-a major storm could flood most of that country). The US (citizens) can prepare for some extreme weather. Water (almost always-extreme winds could cause otherwise) goes to the lowest point so in case of flooding you better have some low grounds that can deal with large amounts of water. When you build more reservoirs you might be able to deal with dry periods as well. When politics fail companies, citizens, can do a lot.
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^DJ, the "bomb cyclones" striking the American North-East (Boston etc.) are similar to hurricanes, and all of these phenomena are being enhanced by global warming and climate change.
We don't seem to learn our lessons over here very well. Sad.
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The 2017 hurricanes did do a lot of damage to the US-leaving parts of Texas as a sort of chemical Fukushima https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2018/03/23/hurricane-harveys-toxic-impact-more-widespread-than-publicly-reported-records.html.
Puerto Rico still with major problems https://puertorico.liveuamap.com/en/2018/23-february-puerto-rico-disaster-declaration-extended-by and https://nypost.com/2018/03/22/puerto-rico-slow-road-to-recovery-after-hurricane-maria/slide-1/ The https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Atlantic_hurricane_season may start early with much heat already in some area's and the jet-stream going wild. https://www.ventusky.com/?p=38;-130;2&l=wind-10m showing developments both in the Atlantic http://cci-reanalyzer.org/wx/fcst/#gfs.natlan-ced.ws10 march 27) and Pacific http://cci-reanalyzer.org/wx/fcst/#gfs.pacific-ced.ws10 april 1) wich may need extra attention. (interesting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNOCDLXi66E hope not very realistic-sort of ad random model ? Not the 2018 storm-names.)
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With the indirect number of people dead due to Maria proberbly far beyond a 1000 in Puerto Rico "Maria" is getting far beyond "Katrina" in duration-and slowly also in still rising death-toll. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Maria#Undercounting_of_fatalities.
Still large regions are without electricity and drinking-water. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-14/shocking-video-shows-what-everyday-life-puerto-rico-now The worst part may be the message the US government is sending: We don't care. Other hard hit islands in the region do get more help from the "mothecountries" France, UK, Netherlands. When they are independent states also (conditional) help is possible. http://dominicanewsonline.com/news/ Corruption in many regions is-as always-a problem. For Puerto Rico (and the US Virgin Islands) being part of the US is a problem-since the US does not provide enough help-other countries do not want to go into US "home problems".
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With the 2017 hurricane season ending in short (from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Atlantic_hurricane_season)
The 2017 Atlantic hurricane season was a hyperactive and extremely destructive season, featuring 17 named storms, ranking alongside 1936 as the fifth-most active season since records began in 1851, and the most active since 2012. The season also featured both the highest total accumulated cyclone energy (ACE) and the highest number of major hurricanes since the 2005 season. All ten of the season's hurricanes occurred in a row, the greatest number of consecutive hurricanes in the satellite era. In addition, it was by far the costliest season on record, with a preliminary total of over $368.66 billion (USD) in damages, which is more than double the cost of 2005’s total, and nearly all of which was due to three of the season's major hurricanes — Harvey, Irma, and Maria. This season is also one of only six years on record to feature multiple Category 5 hurricanes, and only the second to feature two hurricanes making landfall at that intensity. This season is the only season on record in which three hurricanes each had an ACE of over 40: Irma, Jose, and Maria. DJ; Several islands in the Caribean have had that much damage that their economy (often with tourism as a main source of income) will remain serious effected for years or decades. https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/good-riddance-brutal-atlantic-hurricane-season-2017">https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/good-riddance-brutal-atlantic-hurricane-season-2017 and https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/active-2017-eastern-pacific-hurricane-season-ends , https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/2017-us-hurricane-damages-206-billion-highest-record Looking at hurricane history and translating the damage to todays cost 2017 has been the most damaging season for the US. With 2005 in third place and 2012 in place 6 there is a trend. Hurricanes can do a lot of (indirect and direct) damage to the US. The outlook for the 2018 hurricane season is even worse than the 2017 outcome with more heat in the ocean. http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/weather/hurricane/fl-reg-hurricane-seasons-ends-20171129-story.html “Plus, hurricanes are like bananas — they come in bunches,” Masters said. “We saw hurricanes go bananas in 2004 [to] 2005, and it is reasonable to predict that me might see a similar 2-year spike in activity in 2017-2018.” https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/29/16623926/puerto-rico-death-toll-hurricane-maria-count">https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/29/16623926/puerto-rico-death-toll-hurricane-maria-count Over a 1000 people died due to "Maria" on Puerto Rico. https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/hurricane-maria-damages-102-billion-surpassed-only-katrina Also much damage on the US Virgin islands.
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http://www.severe-weather.eu/mcd/some-snow-across-parts-of-eastern-europe-until-tuesday/ and https://www.facebook.com/severeweatherEU/ Extreme weather killed 6 persons sunday in Germany, Poland, Czech-republic. https://robinwestenra.blogspot.nl/2017/10/severe-storm-hits-central-europe.html?spref=fb and http://www.thejournal.ie/storm-europe-2-3670686-Oct2017/ and http://www.thebigwobble.org/2017/10/deadly-storm-hits-europe-causing.html?spref=fb
MrMBB333 extreme wind near Caspean Sea-Iran https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVu8J8cXIUs
https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/franken-philippe-bring-damaging-winds-and-flooding-rains-northeast-us extreme weather on its way to New York/New England. DJ-Since Philippe is not a tropical storm anymore any damage by this unfolding storm will not be included in some statistics. https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/puerto-rico-gov-seeks-immediate-cancellation-of-whitefish-energy-contract/ In Puerto Rico (and other places) damage from earlier hurricanes is not getting fixed-so still people die. Extreme weather will effect food production, drinking water, logistics.
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-27/us-economy-unexpectedly-grew-30-q3-bea-ignores-impact-hurricanes-harvey-irma DJ; people invested in emergency food, extra petrol, car-repairs, had to rebuild their houses and shops-what an economic boost !
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2151474-la-nina-forecast-may-mean-even-worse-atlantic-hurricanes-in-2018/ DJ; Although 2017 was an extreme weather year (some) investors look further and the outlook is not good ! https://paulbeckwith.net/2017/10/28/arctic-sea-ice-is-much-thinner-than-we-thought/ Hurricanes and (extreme) storms often end up in the Arctic-breaking up a decreasing amount of sea-ice. |
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New York/New England will see extreme wet and windy weather sunday/monday, Florida may even get some tornado's sunday morning as tropical storm Philippe moves past the US East Coast.
http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/local-news-nyc-nj-ct/1497-bulletin-80-mph-winds-possible-in-new-jersey-new-york-city-sunday-into-monday (Also this !!! http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/1498-strong-earthquake-at-the-north-pole-shallow-depth-sparks-tsunami-concerns An earthquake north of Siberia must release a lot of methane.) In2ThinAir https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBOHJZUUDNw BPEarthWatch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPCTkTqsVGY MrMBB333 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dWXKhBYoKk and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDl1ontmiKU (NorthPole earthquake https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Giuwa5izrMk Two M5,7 quakes) NHC http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo.php?basin=atlc&fdays=5 A disturbance in the mid Atlantic is moving south and than could get pushed above warm water towards the Caribbean. |
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In2ThinAir was expecting a major storm end of october-he may be correct. The "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Perfect_Storm_(film)" scenario could unfold for the US East Coast-states. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM_gi38AhME.
BPEarthWatch also about the cold fronts in both the US and western Europe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmlxpZjnXAE http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at3.shtml?cone#contents Potential Tropical Cyclone 18 will bring a lot of wind and rain-even when it does not become a hurricane.
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http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/local-news-nyc-nj-ct/1488-major-nor-easter-to-slam-nj-nyc-sunday-into-monday and https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/new-england-may-get-record-setting-october-storm-help-93l Not a hurricane but a "hybrid storm" with tropical aspects moving high speed towards New York/New England weekend/Monday.
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo.php?basin=atlc&fdays=5 and http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo.php?basin=epac&fdays=5 West of Nicaragua Tropical Storm "Selma"has formed-expected to move north. http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_ep5+shtml/085521.shtml?cone#contents Via Guatamala "Selma"could end up above hot gulf water. https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/tropical-threat-to-drench-central-america-into-this-weekend/70003115 |
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In2ThinAir update, Invest 93L may move north to the US as a hurricane. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMbuBBG6nHM and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okbf8KdjfsU tornado's in US. (Also mentions deep 6,7M Indonesia earthquake)
MrMBB333 "Lan" as a 2000 mile wide stormsystem moving towards Alaska-later on via Canada bring bad weather to the US. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ4dKCqHO2Y Already 18 meter/60feet waves south of Alaska. NHC http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo.php?basin=atlc&fdays=5 and http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo.php?basin=epac&fdays=5 DJ Pacific hurricane season might be getting above normal by now. https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/storminfo/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Pacific_hurricane_season |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVXrQBysI58 In2ThinAir; "Philippe"forming near Panama (half Gulf, half Pacific) will follow "Sandy"track. DJ Not showing on https://www.ventusky.com/?p=20.3;-69.4;3&l=wind and http://www.myfoxhurricane.com/custom/models/gfsext/gfsext_atl_pwater.html yet.
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/storminfo/ "Lan" will hit Japan (Tokyo, Fukushima) then move towards Alaska. https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/category-3-typhoon-lan-batters-japan |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbkoSroVOgYin2thinair;
5 years ago to the day we first Herd of the possibility of "Sandy" as it was recognized as a tropical Wave in the Caribbean.
3 days Later would form in2 Hurricane Sandy.
No one believed Sandy to be a threat until the last few hours on the 29th when Sandy made that famous Left Hook in2 Atlantic City New Jersey.
Over 150 people killed and still to this day one of the worst #SuperStorms to hit the North East.
Ireland and the UK prepare for yet another huge storm this one named "Storm Brian" (Second Storm on the list)
A few disagreements on the actual place of landfall but being as big as it is all areas or Ireland/and the UK MUST be on high alert.
this is said to be one fo the worst storms to hit the area ever.
Finally we take look at Typhoon LAN heading to JAPAN.
Not only is this storm significant in the fact that it may cause massive flooding and damage on the East coasts of Japan but the MJO effect may cause the system to follow the jet stream and slide down the west coast of the US causing server weather for the north West US then possibly causing cyclones in the Caribbean and gulf of Mexico. |
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'Katrina brain': The invisible long-term toll of megastormshttp://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2017/10/12/psychological-toll-natural-disasters-000547 More than 1,800 people died in Katrina from drowning and other immediate injuries. But public health officials say that, in the aftermath of an extreme weather event like a hurricane, the toll of long-term psychological injuries builds in the months and years that follow, outpacing more immediate injuries and swamping the health care system long after emergency workers go home and shelters shut down. That’s the rough reality that will soon confront regions affected by this year’s string of destructive hurricanes. As flood waters recede from Hurricanes Harvey, Irma, Maria and Nate, and survivors work to rebuild communities in Texas, Florida and the Caribbean, mental health experts warn that the hidden psychological toll will mount over time, expressed in heightened rates of depression, anxiety, post-traumatic stress disorder, substance abuse, domestic violence, divorce, murder and suicide. |
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-18/its-mad-max-situation-puerto-rico-doctors-practice-medicine-post-apocalyptic-conditi
It isn’t just the sweltering heat that’s causing a post-apocalyptic medical crisis either. A lack of clean drinking water is compounding the problems. In one town, the medical team encountered an orphanage where Dr. Miguel Acevedo led the second team of emergency physicians from Florida Hospital.
Satori, I made your link a direct link, hope that is okay ? The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Association describes such weather patterns as “rivers in the sky” that transport water vapor from warm tropical areas to cooler regions. “These columns of vapor move with the weather, carrying an amount of water vapor roughly equivalent to the average flow of water at the mouth of the Mississippi River,” the agency says. “When the atmospheric rivers make landfall, they often release this water vapor in the form of rain or snow.” The Washington Post notes that while this week’s storm is certainly dramatic in its scale, atmospheric rivers this large have been seen before. Another over the Pacific Ocean in October 2009 hit central California and dumped up to 15 inches of rain over parts of the state. |
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‘The Big Dark’: Series Of Storms Stretching From China To U.S. Batters Northwesthttps://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/atmospheric-river-china-washington_us_59e80ea3e4b00905bdaeb9c9?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009 |
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In Dutch news; Saint/Sint Maarten-carabean island tourist season is coming-but the tourists stay away because most hotels and restaurants are not ready for them. They only can get ready again when the Netherlands, France, EU, invests large amounts. With more strong hurricanes coming years that is something that needs discussion...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0ome3DjNtw MrMBB333 more extreme weather for NW-US, Ireland/W. Europe, Japan. October 18, 2017: More extreme weather breaking out in both hemispheres of earth. Atmospheric River - Super Typhoon - Super Low /SuperStorm. Ireland braces for yet ANOTHER round of tropical storm like conditions as 330,000 set around without power from Ophelia.
(Ireland, Scotland, BC, Tokyo - 30 million people)
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kinda reminds me of one of my favorite "doomer porn" books
THE FLOOD https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2111634.Flood the Thames Barrier which protects London from flood tides is breached by a colossal storm |
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"Ophelia"updates;
HURRICANE Ophelia has developed a terrifying 'sting jet' that could see winds of up to 100mph could smash into the UK and Ireland today. |
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Extreme weather on its way to western Europe with "Ophelia" hitting Ireland monday as a cat 1, followed by another strong stormsystem friday/saterday. (MrMBB333-sort of Tropical Storm, 984 Mb)https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/ophelia-hits-category-3-destructive-winds-tap-ireland :
To call Ophelia unusual would be an understatement. For one thing, it became a major hurricane at longitude 26.6°W, further east than any other formation of a Category 3 in the Atlantic. The former record-holder was Frances (1980), which became a Category 3 at 12.8°N, 29.8°W. Ophelia’s achievement is even more impressive when you consider its latitude: 34.8°N. In data going back to 1851, no other major hurricane is known to have formed anywhere close to as far northeast as Ophelia. The runner-up at Ophelia’s latitude range, Michael (2012), developed some 900 miles further west (see Figure 2 below). Ophelia also extends this year’s count of major Atlantic hurricanes to six, a tally last achieved in 2004. Only two years have notched seven major Atlantic hurricanes: 1961 and 2005. BPEarthwatch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQPePEssHrM, MrMBB333https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9R7YaIDYhA, risks for the US next week limited. http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo.php?basin=atlc&fdays=2 A disturbance will bring more rain to Puerto Rico before moving north to the Atlantic (and later on moving to Europe). The discussion on "Trump's Katrina" is "political", at least in Puerto Rico all should have clean water, medication, basic food, a roof. This is not the case. The US is failing to protect its citizens-with more bad weather to be expected (will Puerto Rico get snow this winter? The weather is absurd !). Other islands in the Carabean are doing better. (Also in Texas http://robinwestenra.blogspot.nl/2017/10/abby-martin-chronicles-officail-neglect.html?spref=fb) http://www.met.ie/nationalwarnings/default.asp DJ Ireland is a small country that will get hit by this storm(s) allover. It will need-just like the Carabean Islands-all the help it can get. |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r3hHVmyqPM MrMBB333 "Ophelia"expected to reach Ireland/Scotland with hurricane cat 1 force monday oct 16. Behind that two other storms following the same route-towards Norway. http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at2+shtml/023933.shtml?mltoa34#contents
(DJ; this is very extreme-could bring THREE storms next week to Ireland, Scotland, Uk, Norway !) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QEHTonRRdk In2ThinAir-models unclear "Ophelia" moving east ? (to "us" in the Netherlands ?). |
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http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo.php?basin=atlc&fdays=5 With post-tropical cyclone "Nate" still on the map "Ophelia"on the map-central Atlantic-expected to become a hurricane.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5zcIPqhELk MrMBB333-season looks like 2004/2005 with several "disturbances" to be expected. In2ThinAir on "Ophelia", "Philippe" and "Rina" on their way https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh7L1SKb2aY. Update https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdO5V07DdB4&t=30s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Atlantic_hurricane_season#Storm_names After "Rina" still four names left; Sean (in some models already on its way from West-Africa), Tammy, Vince and Whitney-there is an extra list for when these names are not enough. |
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