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CDC releasing new HCW guidelines today

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    Posted: October 20 2014 at 7:04am
New hospital guidelines for Ebola patients call for healthcare workers to cover up
 
October 20, 2014
 

New guidelines for the treatment of Ebola expected to be issued Monday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) will require healthcare workers to be completely covered up when treating patients for the virus, and be monitored while donning and removing protective garb.

The new, more stringent guidelines have been developed as a response to two nurses at a Dallas hospital becoming infected with Ebola after treating Thomas Eric Duncan, a Liberian national who became the first person in the United States to die of the virus Oct. 8. 

Dr. Anthony Fauci, head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said those caring for Duncan were vulnerable because some of their skin was exposed. He said that earlier guidelines released by the CDC were based on those used by the World Health Organization (WHO) for treatment in remote places, often outdoors, and without intensive training for health workers.

"So there were parts about that protocol that left vulnerability, parts of the skin that were open," Fauci said Sunday.

Health officials had previously allowed hospitals some flexibility to use available covering when dealing with suspected Ebola patients. The new guidelines are expected to set firmer standards: calling for full-body suits and hoods that protect worker's necks; setting rigorous rules for removal of equipment and disinfection of hands; and requiring a "site manager" to supervise the putting on and taking off of equipment.

The guidelines also are expected to require a "buddy system" in which workers check each other as they come in and go out, an official who was familiar with the guidelines but not authorized to discuss them before their release told the Associated Press.

Hospital workers also will be expected to exhaustively practice getting in and out of the equipment, the official said.

Nurses have been clamoring for more guidance and better garb, saying they have never cared for Ebola patients before and feel unprepared and underequipped.

"If hospital administrators had to take care of Ebola patients, they would have the gold standard and hazmat suits," said RoseAnn DeMoro, executive director of National Nurses United, a union with 185,000 members.

In some places where they have the suits, nurses have not practiced taking them on and off.

"The hospital is sending them essentially a link to the CDC website. That's not preparation. That's like a do-it-yourself manual," DeMoro said.

Fauci also said Sunday that more hospitals will need to train and equip their staffs to deal with patients with Ebola. Currently only four hospitals have been designated to handle Ebola cases by the U.S.: Emory University Hospital in Atlanta, the National Institutes of Health in Bethesda, Md., St. Patrick Hospital in Missoula, Mont., and Nebraska Medical Center in Omaha. The NIH and Emory are currently treating Nina Pham and Amber Vinson, the two infected Dallas nurses. 

"We need to have more than just the four [hospitals] in which you have people who are pre-trained, so that you don’t come in, and then that’s the first time you start thinking about it," Fauci told NBC's "Meet The Press." "It can’t just be four. We may not even need any more, and we hope we don’t."

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still waiting for CDC guidelines. After that we can talk about some serious Ebola protection Gear. Many articles suggest that Ebola could be aerosolized, if one sick person is sneezing of coughing.
Some post are really scary:
( a quote from http://pissinontheroses.blogspot.ro/2014/09/us-army-says-ebola-flu-in-airborne.html )

"According to the Center for Aerobiological Sciences, U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases at Fort Detrick, Maryland:

(1) Ebola has an aerosol stability that is comparable to Influenza-A

(2) Much like Flu, Airborne Ebola transmissions need Winter type conditions to maximize Aerosol infection


"Filoviruses, which are classified as Category A Bioterrorism Agents by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (Atlanta, GA), have stability in aerosol form comparable to other lipid containing viruses such as influenza A virus, a low infectious dose by the aerosol route (less than 10 PFU) in NHPs, and case fatality rates as high as ~90% ."

"The mode of acquisition of viral infection in index cases is usually unknown. Secondary transmission of filovirus infection is typically thought to occur by direct contact with infected persons or infected blood or tissues. There is no strong evidence of secondary transmission by the aerosol route in African filovirus outbreaks. However, aerosol transmission is thought to be possible and may occur in conditions of lower temperature and humidity which may not have been factors in outbreaks in warmer climates [13]. At the very least, the potential exists for aerosol transmission, given that virus is detected in bodily secretions, the pulmonary alveolar interstitial cells, and within lung spaces"
I do apologize for my poor english. Prepare for the Worst and Hope for the Best!
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In the video at the link they talked about one of the "new" protocols would be a mandatory 21 day monitoring or isolation (can't remember the word they used) for ANYONE in direct or indirect contact with the patient.

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CDC issues new rules for protecting workers from Ebola
 
October 21, 2014
 

Hospital workers treating Ebola patients should wear double sets of gloves, disposable hoods with full face shields and special masks, according to strengthened guidelines issued Monday night by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The guidelines focus on personal protective equipment, or PPE, giving hospitals and clinics more specific instructions about gloves, gowns and face masks, and how they should be put on and taken off.

Nurses and other medical professionals have expressed concern that they are unprepared and unprotected when treating patients suspected of having Ebola. Nurses have complained that they were sent into the room of Ebola patient Thomas Eric Duncan, the first Ebola patient diagnosed in the USA, with the skin of their necks exposed. Two nurses who treated Duncan at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas became infected with the virus and are now hospitalized.

Infectious disease expert Michael Osterholm praised the agency for issuing step-by-step instructions that are clear and comprehensive. He said the CDC listened to experts in occupational safety as well as medical workers on the job.

"These are a major step forward in protecting workers from Ebola virus infection," said Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota.

"But these recommendations just by themselves do not make for a safer work environment," Osterholm said. "Training is critical. We need to train people how to use PPE safely and effectively."

The CDC guidelines are similar to those used by Doctors Without Borders, which is highly respected worldwide for its policies for treating Ebola patients. The group, which has been fighting Ebola since March and has 3,000 workers in the West African countries of Sierra Leone, Guinea and Liberia, has a better track record than many others. Twenty-one of its staff have become infected with Ebola, but few of those infections were in a hospital, spokesman Tim Shenk says. Most infections among Doctors Without Borders staff have occurred after local workers went home to their communities.

Following the model of Doctors Without Borders, the CDC now says that all health workers should be supervised by a trained monitor who watches each one put the PPE on and take it off.

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1st guy is the old way.
 
2nd guy is level 2, what the new protocols call for. And what Nebraska has had as minimum from the beginning but they've moved on to level three...
 
3rd guy (last two pics in the grey) is level 3, what Nebraska now uses & what the CDC may require at some point, so says the article.
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Those 2nd & maybe even 3rd pair of gloves are essential if you watch the videos.  I can see how mistakes could easily be made the way he took that gear off.
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please do note that the CDC recommand :
Step-by-step PPE removal instructions that include:
◦Disinfecting visibly contaminated PPE using an EPA-registered disinfectant wipe prior to taking off equipment

•Disinfection of gloved hands using either an EPA-registered disinfectant wipe or alcohol-based hand rub between steps of taking off PPE. "

not SPRAYING but WIPE instead. For me its clear, they want to make sure this is not going airborne . So practically they admit that Ebola could become airborne if sprayed (or high pressure water - this is what was used to wash Duncans vomit outside of his building)


And one question : -On level 3 suit - any idea why the guy need that yellow tape at his right on the belt -where is the Air Filter System ? I understand that he need that yellow tape to be applied on gloves and boots but why you need to "patch " the Air Filter System ?
I do apologize for my poor english. Prepare for the Worst and Hope for the Best!
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