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corky52
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Posted: February 03 2006 at 11:05am |
How important are communications to you! If things degrade what will you not want to lose? I have a Sat INTERNET connection , sat radio, sat TV and phone service through the sat INTERNET. In another thread we've been talking about power systems, you'll also need that to stay connected. Sat INTERNET requires an up front investment of between $1000 and $5000 for the ground station and then about $80 a month for the service. I planned to be logged on here as long as this server is up! I use the ground station when I'm camping as well, I guess I'm a REAL addict! |
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What is your address ??? :) Well, I don't have that kind of money. But it sounds great. With the money I do have... I'll need to be creative. I was thinking about those battery Talkies...some go for 7 to 10 miles? We could form a chain and get messages through that way?
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Jefiner
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I have thought a great deal about this. Our Internet connection is dependent upon juice from the wall. I have been considering getting a wireless DSL card from Sprint (kind of pricey at 50 bucks a month) but I can stick it into the laptop and go broadband anywhere in the Sprint service area. Assuming no natural disaster like Katrina, the infrastructure will remain in place, at least for the medium term, including cell towers, and text messaging is still an option. I also love my little XM radio--that should stay online as well. Solar Charger in place to power the laptop, cell phone and XM, plus the mighty Ford Escape as a back up generator.
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corky52
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Jefiner,
I've use cell while on the road, look at getting an external antenna like a Wilson, it will keep you up longer for very little money. Stronger signal and access to more towers will give you better odds of staying on.
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Mine is limited, but will work for me. I have a GC83 air card in my laptop (i live in the sticks).
A CB base station, mobile and walkie talkie.
A set of military field phones with a mile of wire I can run out in different directions to be able to check in without using the air waves.
And to keep up on news, a short wave receiver, 12 volt TV and planning on getting a HAM receiver.
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JaxMax
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VHF (boat radios) are very effective if off line.
Also, you can use the ATM machines for long distance coded messages, see "Kids in College" on Avian discussion.
I like Mountainwinds field phones, I had not thought of that.
Also, for temp power just get an inverter ($40) Wal-mart, and plug into your cigarette lighter in your car or truck, or directly to a 12 volt battery.
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He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm.Proverbs 13:20, The Bible
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sweetpea
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Found a dynamo radio at Walgreens yesterday ($10), picked up one - has a radio, siren, flashlight - tried it out and it works great, has good sound, bright light. Charge lasts for 20 minutes. Will be headed back to pick up a couple more for BOBs. |
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I bought a battery (3 AA) operated Shortwave radio off ebay ($70 w/shipping). I've been using it for a week now on the same set of batteries and it's still going strong. It will also recharge NiCd batteries straight from the AC adapter. You can hear stations from all over the world, plus AM and FM. |
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Mississipp Mama
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Hi Mountian wind, I like the idea of the field radios. Where should like look for them? Do they come with the mile of wire? Thanks for your help.
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Ebay is a good place to look. You may find the wire there also. Mine are TA-1PT model.
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striper
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For hand crank radio with light, look at LL Bean.
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Mississipp Mama
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Thanks, Mountainwinds, I will check ebay. Will these phones work like regular phones? Who will I be able to contact? Please bear with me asking such simple questions. In case I can't find the wire on e-bay could I get it at a hardware store? Thanks a lot.
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These are connected by wire. You can talk to others connected on the wire. There is two wires, connected to each phone. Pos and neg. Depending on the model, you push a lever, knob, or turn a crank that sends a current to the other phones that "rings" the other phone or phones. When talking, you don't do anything as they are sound powered.
Some sets come with a switchboard that the operator can direct the calls.
Would be good for a neighborhood, or a rural setting.
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2ifbyC
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When purchasing a shortwave radio be sure to get one with single side band (SSB) capability. Although you will receive government/commercial broadcasts without it, individual ham operators transmit on the SSB. Private operators will transmit actual events in their area, not some government scripted programming which has endured multi-level bureaucratic approvals.
OK, I am a little paranoid... Edited by 2ifbyC - April 09 2006 at 6:42am |
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sweetpea
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Thanks 2ifbyC - good info to know about getting HAMs on your shortwave as well ...
recommend any brand in particular?
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KOMET163
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Radio Shack has some really cool crank radios. I got one years ago and I enjoy listening to it everyonce in awhile. I also will buy a broadband package for my laptop..
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2ifbyC is correct about the SSB capability. However,
the cost of a SSB radio is more expensive. If you really want to spend that
kind of money you might as well buy a used transceiver on ebay (~$500). That
way you can talk back with the other hams. Technically you need an operator’s
license, but during the pandemic I don’t think the government will hunt you down
for transmitting without a license. Be sure you learn how to build
a proper transmitting antenna. It's not hard to do
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P_S_N
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Mountainwinds, Maybe you can help me. I have an old CB radio that has been sitting for years unused. It was a top of the line in it's day, a nicely tweaked Cobra that though unused for years should still be good. I used to have it in my car years ago. I want to get the coax and an antenna to put it in my car if need be (I think I still remember how to set it up), but I also want to set things up where I can use it as a base station at home. I've never had a base station so I'm not sure what I need to do that. I assume I would have to run it off of some sort of battery power. Any advice or tips you could share with me would be appreciated.
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2ifbyC
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P_S_N,
Use an appropriate sized AC adapter for grid use and a battery when power's out. Power comsumption is minimal while receiving but jumps much higher when transmitting.
Place CB as close to the antenna as possible to minimize coax length.
Check your SWR for proper antenna matching.
Of course mount the antenna as high as possible.
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2ifbyC
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It's been a while since I did any research. As with most products, the more you pay, the more you get. Try Google for SW radio reviews. Some 'whi$tle$ and bell$' may not be for you. But be sure to get a unit that has SSB.
I have three older tabletop SWs I purchased on eBay. When power goes out I use a small inverter and a small lawn tractor battery. Since a SW radio is receive only, the power comsumption is small.
Radio Shack has a five'T' horizonal element SW antenna that will enhance SW reception without co$ting an arm and leg.
Also get a good SW frequency book. Most of them will have an introduction and help section that aids in your SW listening enjoyment. Or Google the web and print the info you find interesting. Make your own handbook!
Good luck! Edited by 2ifbyC - April 12 2006 at 5:50am |
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A base station runs off of 110 volt house current. Sometimes rather expensive tho.
A better way to go, would be to buy another mobile radio and hook it up to a battery, or use a transformer to change current from 110 to 12 volt.
A good ground plane antenna set about 10 feet above the roof line and your set.
For added punch, tho maybe not quite legal, is to use a linear (not sure of spelling). I have a 125 watt and gives my radio a big kick up in power.
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Somebody fill me in, please, what is an inverter? What does it do? I havn't done anything yet about commo except I have a handcrank radio from Y2K. Nearest family lives 10 minutes drive away, so I was thinking about 20 mile walkie-talkies. could use some advice.
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A inverter, changes 12 volt current (car type battery) to 110 household current. They can be bought from 70 watts up to 5500 watts.(maybe larger) A 70 watt is good for small items like a household radio or light. The 5000 watt will power up big items, but you have to have a "LOT" of battery to use it.
The way to find out what you need, is to find the apms, listed on the item, mutiply the amps times the voltage, and that gives wattage.
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