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Posted: February 05 2006 at 9:01am |
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jackson
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I voted yes, but I only have enough if a 75 mg dose is required. If we need to double the dose, I'm in trouble.
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They won't give it out in Canada
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willow41
Valued Member Joined: January 27 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 109 |
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I have tried and tried and cannot get any of it. But, I keep reading articles warning that there is a very good chance that when this flu mutates it will be resistant to Tamiflu. You just never know.
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Corn
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I will be drinking my own urine If I have to take mine. Thanks for the recipe Sophie.
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Speculation is the only tool we have with a threat that can circle the globe in 30 days. Test results&news is slow.Factor in human conditions,politics, money&bingo!The truth!Facts come after the fact.
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Bootsie
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Can someone please advise? My question is how can we know that we are getting authentic Tamiflu when buying on-line? Isn't there something about a number on the packaging which can be authenticated with the manufacturer? But if found to be counterfeit, then what......once shipped, no one gives refunds which leaves reliance on credit card companies to intervene. Has anyone had success being reimbursed for bad product? My experience was not good - got ripped off with no recourse - My credit card company had a million reasons why they would not reverse my purchase price. I am afraid to risk this again.....but want to purchase Tamilu, if I can. Local doctors have refused my pleas...... Thank you. Bootsie |
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You won't know. The counterfeiters are doing a darn good job of making the labeling look authentic as well as the pills.
Best to buy from a reputable pharmacy. There are doctors in free clinics who will write prescriptions even if your med plan doctor won't. |
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Proudest Monkey
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I have a prescription for Tamiflu, but I still have not gotten it filled. I am not so sure about all the hype with this medication so I don't want to waste money on non-essential supplies. The drug companies want everyone to think it will work for the bird flu, but I am not so sure. |
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Purim
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This area has seen the most ridiculous hypocrisy by the government and public officials. Every reason used to not have it (Tamiflu)simply could be used to say the government should also not be storing it. By comparison Lets see. Attila the hun is going to invade (not if but when) and the governments wants you to prepare by storing food and water. Do not buy guns however as you might use them incorrectly and they could fall into the hands of the invaders and then the invasion would be even worse. Do not worry tho only several million may die and a fair number be injured but only some will be crippled. I think I would buy a gun.
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After reading about virus mutations and viruses becoming immune to meds, we voted no for Tamiful. It could be obsilite by the time the virus mutates H2H...just a personal decision.
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Hope
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My vote was to buy the Tamiflu months ago. I asked my doctor to write me an RX because I might be going to Asia on business. He wrote it for me and I got it filled. I told him I would be there for an extended period of time and I needed double the dose. He did as I asked. Keep in mind, my own doc didn't know much about Tamilflu many months ago. I was ahead of the game. Here's how I look at it. It may or may not work - but for the cost of a nice meal out in a fancy restaurant with my friends (yes, Tamiflu is expensive), I didn't hesitate to pay for it - and I have no insurance. What if it DOES work? What if it is the ONLY thing that helps? You bet I want it. |
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MissRX
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I agree hope. It may or may not work, and I understand that thus I have also gone for other unconventional methods too (just in case) but I tell you what, I sure do feel like I have a little more piece of mind knowing that I do have it.
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"The more you sweat in peace, the less you bleed in war"
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Richard
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I just odered Tamaflu from drugs md i obtained their web address from this site and am now wondering if I did the right thing as there is no guarrantee hat its the real thing. My doctor refused to write a script for me today saying the govererment has restricted writing a script. Thank you for a most informative site. I have just ordered a generator for my tractor and have begun stock pileing food and water purifers. Richard Ps Does anuone know how long rice will last ie 50lb bag
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meewee
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Richard a 50# bag of rice will make 505 servings of 1/2 cup size. Might want to go over to the Preparation threads and read what they have to say and go from there. Meewee |
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God Bless us all!
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Flubird
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Richard, are you getting brown rice, I think it is supposed to be better??
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drugs.md
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Richard, I can assure you that the Tamiflu from Drugs.MD is the real thing so you don't have to worry there. I'm pretty sure Albert and a few others have ordered through us and can confirm it's the real thing. But I would advise anyone to be careful about dealing with any offshore pharmacy companies. The news reports have been true and some fake tablets from overseas have been found. I've been talking with Albert from the forum here on PM's and emails. From his advice a standard treatment course may have to be increased from 10x 75mg to 20x75mg. At the moment because of shortages we have been only accepting 10 count orders. When I get the latest update from Albert with the references from the New England Journal of Medicine I will pass it along to the Doctors and Pharmacy guys for review to see if we need to be allowing 20 count order through the system. I will update if I make any progress here, but the whole changing available doses etc. is management by commettee which can take some time.... Drugs.MD |
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janetn
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Ive waivered back and forth on this. First off I plan on staying home for the duration. My son and his family will be bunking here too. We are fairly isolated and I have food and the ability to continue to . Then there is the question of resistance - it seemed to take no tiem at all for H5N1 to aquire resistance to ametadine. But in the beginning of the pandemic it would be possible to be exposed soooo I quess Im gonna get some for extra insurance [just in case] Id hate for one of my grandchildren to come down with symtoms and me not have any |
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chefmom
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I have not gotten any because it is too expensive. Did I someone mention a homemade version? If there is one could someone please post it or if it is already posted, let me know where it is. As much as I'd like to order some, I don't see myself coming up with $200 at one time for the med.
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May God protect us all.
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Tired
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I'd love to buy some, but Im just having trouble getting past the
prices without a guarantee that it will work! I'd hate to spend $1000
for Tamiflu, only for it to be announced that H5N1 has become
resistant. I'd hate to be looking at useless medication while Im
wondering what kind of other preps I could have purchased for a
thousand bucks!
BUT, if I had a money tree in my backyard, then I probably would buy some Tamiflu for the piece of mind....but unfortunately, no money tree!! |
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Better to be safe than sorry.... |
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Ella Fitzgerald
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We got some Tamiflu but wanted to get a prescription for my child. My child was wheezing last night and coughing so my husband took him to the doctor first thing this morning. Ended up being diagnosed with exertional asthma (thank goodness - a little freaked out with any respiratory illness right now). My husband asked the pediatrician for a Rx of Tamiflu and ended up getting a lecture on how unethical it was to ask for that and shamed him on trying to hoard the medicine from those that will need it the most.
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Ella, the ones that will need it the most will be the young. Your husband was correct in asking the pediatrician for Tamiflu for his child. Anybody, except your ignorant doctor, can see the death statistics for this virus. It kills the young "most eagerly." Tell you doctor that Joe thinks he is a total twit. If he disagrees, he can call me and talk to me as I am listed on the Internet telephone directory and in the regular telephone directories. For others on this board who think that antivirals will become useless, there is antiviral resistance in Vietnam and southern China because those countries were giving antivirals to their chickens and ducks to keep them healthy. What they ended up doing was allowing for the mutation of a H5N1 virus that was antiviral resistant. (Just like we in the US have managed to create a horrific Staph bacteria that is antibiotic resistant by giving antibiotics to patients and animals that did not have a real need for the medicine.) Amazing stupidity in both the US and South East Asia (SEA). If that SEA strain of H5N1 becomes the pandemic strain, Tamiflu will not work very well. If the strain that is in Turkey and Iraq (SWA) becomes the pandemic strain, Tamiflu will work. Edited by JoeNeubarth |
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Chicken Hawk
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I have 10 capsules at 75 mgs. paid over 200 bucks and it isn't even going to be a full dose. I am still on the fence as to whether I should get more or not, I really can't afford it, but what else can we do?
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MissRX
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Probenecid: said to double the half-life of Tamiflu. It will cause Tamiflu to stay in your body 2.5 times longer than a single dose and if you take more Tamiflu, as per the dosing instructions, it will build up to a higher blood level. It could be used to stretch supplies of Tamilfu or it might be used to increase blood concentrations of Tamiflu, which there is some evidence might be needed. This medicine was also used in WWII to prolong the treatments during a shortage of Penicillin. WHEN TAKING WITH TAMIFLU: 1 dose, 4 times a day while taking Tamiflu to double the dosage. |
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"The more you sweat in peace, the less you bleed in war"
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jackson
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Although probenecid is relatively safe, make sure you talk to your
doctor first if you're taking other medications. I know that
Probenecid will also increase the levels of other drugs in the body,
such as Methotrexate (a drug used in treatement of cancers and other
disorders), and this could be potentially dangerous.
I think that getting a prescription of Probenecid might be a good option for people who have enough for a 75mg dose and may not be albe to get anymore. (just talk to your doctor first ) |
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steve 101
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in my opinion this bug will be resistant to tamiflu. It has 4 main genetic strains. I have immunised myself homeopathically and will be relying on homeopathic remedies if/when it does arrive. This bug changes itself when anybody comes up with a way to beat it. I suggest that the use of garlic pearl capsules at the rate of 3 capsules twice daily and 1 zinc tab daily. This should be started now and stayed on. Yes I am doing this and I have advised my patients to do the same. I have stockpiled all necessities. Personally I feel that this bug is very close . It has changed its incubation rate from 3 days to 3 weeks (Turkey strain) thus allowing itself to spread a long way before detection.
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Ella Fitzgerald
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JoeNeubarth, Thank you so much for putting into words what I was thinking (of course mine has a few more unique words added. What a jerk! Arghhhhh! I think I need to meet myself in the members only forum....lol |
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chefmom
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Are garlic pearl capsules the same as the garlic pills at the drug store or should I go to a natural foods store to get them. Also, what about raw garlic or roasted garlic? Would these be benificial? If you are a holistic or homeopathic Dr. (is there a difference?) could you please, please. please, post what ever info you can if we were to become sick? Thank you |
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May God protect us all.
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