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    Posted: October 18 2014 at 11:43pm
Apparently this is a new one? 

FIRST CASE OF EBOLA IN SAN DIEGO





A student from Southwestern College came in contact with Nurse Amber Vinson, they were on the same flight, and she’s now in quarantine in Chula Vista, according to Anna Pryor editor-in-chief of the college’s newspaper, The Sun.

It happened just before 10 a.m. in the building at the campus located in the 900 block of Otay Lakes road.

All the students and staff in classes with the student have been quarantined, Pryor said. Reportedly, about 20 students have been quarantined. Campus police have taped off the building and are waiting on officials from the Center for Disease Control to arrive.


Information from: www.sandiego6.com

http://www.cronicainformativa.com/2014/10/first-case-of-ebola-in-san-diego.html






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%20 - http://www.sandiego6.com/news/local/Student-at-Southwestern-College-under-quarantine-for-Ebola-279453812.html?m=y&smobile=y

Evidently, the story was recanted by the student.
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Southwestern College in Chula Vista confirms the student who reported feeling ill this morning, leading to an Ebola scare, has recanted her story.      About 50 students at the school were held in a quarantine for about four hours after reports the girl or her sister may have been on the same plane as Amber Vinson, the Texas nurse who is being treated for Ebola.    College Police Chief Michael Cash says the school followed proper protocol when it was alerted of a possible exposure to contagious disease.   "We are assured no one in the county has been contacted with any type of infectious disease of this nature. We are now releasing students and are back to normal operations," he said.    The students were given food and water while held in the area of the classroom where the student reportedly had an 8 a.m. class. The student who reported ill was examined by a school nurse and later questioned.   No word yet on why the student gave incorrect information or if she will be disciplined.

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Defcon 5

Hi Albert, this is only going to keep continuing. Small outbreaks will continue to eat up health service resources. Our western hospitals should be able to battle on.

That's not the issue. Less organised countries such as Egypt, Afghanistan, Indonesia etc with poor health services are going to struggle and will eventually have outbreaks which will blow out of control. 

There is clear evidence that the combination of long gestation times and the contagiousness of Ebola is difficult to control. Even for advanced medical systems. This looks to be going global

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Recant   WTF
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Isn't this the same school with the meningitis outbreak?
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SDSU tries to prevent meningitis outbreak

U-T San Diego-12 hours ago

San Diego State University students Travis Johnson, 19, and Katelyn Markham, 18, wait to get antibiotics at the student health center. / photo by ...

Does not appear to be the school
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How does one recant or renounce a physical condition? Was se never medically diagnosed?
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Originally posted by cobber cobber wrote:

Defcon 5

Hi Albert, this is only going to keep continuing. Small outbreaks will continue to eat up health service resources. Our western hospitals should be able to battle on.

That's not the issue. Less organised countries such as Egypt, Afghanistan, Indonesia etc with poor health services are going to struggle and will eventually have outbreaks which will blow out of control. 

There is clear evidence that the combination of long gestation times and the contagiousness of Ebola is difficult to control. Even for advanced medical systems. This looks to be going global

Maybe i'm freaking out a bit... Happy to be talked down


Thanks Rick.

Hi Cobber - We will probably go to defcon 5 a little early - and as soon as another case pops up in the U.S. or possibly one more anywhere outside of Africa.


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Originally posted by ParanoidMom ParanoidMom wrote:

Isn't this the same school with the meningitis outbreak?


Nope, that's San Diego State. Southwestern is a community college.
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If this is not a true ebola case, CAN WE PLEASE RENAME THE TOPIC NAME????? It's extremely misleading.

EDIT: Sorry. Didn't mean to shout..lol.. and didn't have a chance to read through thoroughly, etc. My little granddaughter is here visiting and so was not focused.
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Will someone please take down this topic on the forum. This site is going to lose its credibility.
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Agree. Or just edit topic - like -" Ebola San Diego-Ruled Out"
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Or start a new topic titled "First Ebola Case in Dago Debunked" etc...
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Gang, for the last time lol, since over 95% of all news coming eventually rules out Ebola, we're not about to start changing 95% of all news headlines, especially when it's the exact same headline used in the article itself.

The headline used in this thread was the headline used in the article.  Maybe they should print retraction each time?  We post the news article, followed by the original headline if it fits.  Latest News is a news feed of sorts with the original information and we can't start changing them - as is the same with all sites and news.   Could you imagine the work involved?  Could you imagine if it turns out to be Ebola and we have to switch it back because someone puts not ebola too soon? If we fail to say not Ebola does it's mean confirmed?  Major confusion - and major editing.

I completely understand what you guys are saying, and appreciate it, but the alternative is even more confusing if we change the original news headline.

I should also add, when we post news, we also have to reference the source by placing the link at bottom of the thread, or the news orgs get upset for plagiarism.   If we fool with their headlines too bad it will lead to complaints, and we've had them before.



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The other important point is that these headlines are a snapshot in time/history. Should never be altered. If the news on the previous news has changed then a new snapshot of that should be posted that debunks the previous. I didn't quite understand this early on but now it is perfectly clear. Albert is correct. Live and learn.
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I think this might be the same story (different link) that Jacksdad posted a couple of days ago that I mentioned the girl lied to keep from losing her class.
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Originally posted by Albert Albert wrote:

Gang, for the last time lol, since over 95% of all news coming eventually rules out Ebola, we're not about to start changing 95% of all news headlines, especially when it's the exact same headline used in the article itself.

The headline used in this thread was the headline used in the article.  Maybe they should print retraction each time?  We post the news article, followed by the original headline if it fits.  Latest News is a news feed of sorts with the original information and we can't start changing them - as is the same with all sites and news.   Could you imagine the work involved?  Could you imagine if it turns out to be Ebola and we have to switch it back because someone puts not ebola too soon? If we fail to say not Ebola does it's mean confirmed?  Major confusion - and major editing.

I completely understand what you guys are saying, and appreciate it, but the alternative is even more confusing if we change the original news headline.

I should also add, when we post news, we also have to reference the
source by placing the link at bottom of the thread, or the news orgs get
upset for plagiarism.   If we fool with their headlines too bad it will
lead to complaints, and we've had them before.


Regarding this very article I follow the link -to cronicainformativa.com and from there to their ORIGINAL SOURCE : sandiego6.com. Well I couldn`t find the ORIGINAL article there, so either they remove it , change the title or I`m simply too bad at searching.


Albert, they do (often ) edit articles and make updates.- in special when is about the same story. I read a lot (like everyone here) about this EVD and I see a lot of articles updated (they just mention the date time ) or "edited" . The news agencies are happy to give a "scary" title -more scary it is the more persons will read the article.


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You're absolutely correct on both points Gady.  

And when they run with a shocking headline to hype an article/site, and they don't post retraction, at least we're able to post about it here and pick it apart.  The news orgs just post it, scare people, and it's not fixed.  We fix and correct their news by posting after the article.   People are pretty fortunate that we're set up that way - and get to the truth.  Also - there is a lot of good info on those threads that people will skip over (if we put Not Ebola) and miss i.e. follow up stories, good informative input, etc...

We really don't want to get into the habit of editing posts, and several each day.   Usually it's done correctly either way and we don't have a big problem with it, although it may happen, and this news article is an example of the problem when posting their exact headline.  

Now technically, who ever posts the article here, that person has the right to edit/change the heading they used as it's their post.  You guys don't want us edit-happy around here, trust me lol.  


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I have to agree with Albert on this one. 
 
Here's how I approach each article with a possible case... First & most important I approach it with skepticism.  Next before I read the article completely I scroll down to see if there are any replies yet... this is often where you will find the answer.
 
If no replies that offer either confirmation of positive or false alarm... I go up to the very top of the post all the way to the right where it says "Topic Options"... and I click "Watch This Topic"... then I read the article in full or follow the link if the article body is not present.
 
95% of these articles are updated same day usually within hours that it's a false alarm.  So I get the notification & I say ok, alls well that ends well.
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There have been, and will continue to be, many of these "possible case in..." stories.  Perhaps what we should do is have one thread that contains all fo the "possible" cases, and when or if it is confirmed to be an actual case, have it moved to its own thread on the forum.  Would be less clutter that way, at least.
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Originally posted by mjm1 mjm1 wrote:

There have been, and will continue to be, many of these "possible case in..." stories.  Perhaps what we should do is have one thread that contains all fo the "possible" cases, and when or if it is confirmed to be an actual case, have it moved to its own thread on the forum.  Would be less clutter that way, at least.


Yes I agree with having a single thread for suspected cases. If a case turns positive it can be a new post all together. This will also help with the double postings of the same article.
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I agree with Albert that we should not change a news title.  Sometimes, even when they are recanted due to pressure, stories/news turn out to be true.
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Someday this forum may become a historical document in the Library of Congress. It may want to be preserved as is, or have millions of man-hours in recatagorizing its archives in their entirety. Once you start with the false Ebola alarms it will lead to the next and the next. It's how I once wrote 5 million words about one simple subject that kept branching out and out like an aspen tree. However, that's not to say your suggestion cannot be done, quite simply as you laid out. But I don't know that that wouldn't cause movements of threads around that may be better left as are. It is certainly open for discussion...
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My idea with this editing : only the AUTHOR of that thread to modify the thread post title with just one word / or symbol so we know its ruled out. If the Author is not coming back (editing the title) a moderator can move the post to "false alarm" or so. Like the WHO we can have "confirmed" "suspected " and "false alarm". Also mods can close topics that are outdated somehow (locking them and the last post to be "ruled out" or so. In this way if anyone read can find out that it was a false alarm.
I don't encouraging moderators to modify the content of any post in any way, just to place 1 word at the end (start) of topic.

I think Albert and mods can make a sticky asking the authors of the threads(JUST the ones with very alarming titles - like "ebola in new York -lets say) to edit the title if the event was not confirmed.
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Whoever posts the thread can modify their title/heading.  It's up to them.  Latest News is pretty fast moving though and it might already be hard to catch up with the thread.  You guys are like one big fast moving News Feed around here.  
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