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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 12 2006 at 10:53am

You can buy those at most pet stores or make them with velcro and a material  Making them yourself can be more practical as you can make a bunch cheap from scrap material . 

Getting the dog to wear them good luck.

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There are excellent manufacturers of booties for dogs, I tried making them myself, and it was a hassle, so I decided to buy them.  There are many manufacturers , just type  in your search engine>pets or dog boots lost of choices will come up,you can decide which ones are best for your dog.--they even have heavy duty ones for extreme conditions--
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  Quote Spoil sport Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2006 at 6:03am

Originally posted by Gwyphn

"Does anyone know if canned pet food is cooked first to kill viruses."

The canning processes requires high temperatures.

Don't forget some dog breeds need the fibre they get by chewing sticks. That is why Golden Retreivers sample everybody's mulch when they go for a walk.

 

Definitely no flu viruses survive the canning process!

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  Quote Amethyst Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2006 at 6:14am

I have a gecko.  I've got plenty of worms to feed her with right now, and worms can be bred if they have to be. 

 

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  Quote Rivendellpets Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2006 at 11:04am

I run an animal rescue in New England and have had to revise our policies and procedures concerning the outdoor activities of the dogs in our care.

For years I have been scrutinizing commercial pet food and how its contents are prepared. I had just lost a cat and my niece, her dog to puzzling disorders. They simply, all of a sudden, failed to thrive. I came across a book about rendering plants and the three "d's", diseased, dying and dead animals that are shipped off to rendering plants which make pet food. So "byproducts" that are listed in the ingredients on the package are actually whatever can be rendered out of what ever animal goes into the "mix".  I did not need to read much further for it to make sense. I spread the word and found the local stores starting to carry those hard to find "premium" pet foods. I told them that all of our clientele would be referred to their stores to purchase the recommended brands. Our town food co-op carries Wellness now and the feed stores are doing a bang up business with Wellness, Wysong, Merrick as well as some others.

When the store is out of it, we prepare our own from organic foods. I have long been a believer in adding chicken soup to the treatment protocol for upper respiratory infections in cats. I use a Martha Stuart quick trick of pouring the broth in ice cube trays and microwave-melting the "dose", and serving it up. In cats with severe congestion the first few sips may need to be helped with an eyedropper.

We called Perdue chicken today about the concerns we have, because we sometimes feed their chicken to our critters. They assured us that their chicken growers keep their birds in a safe environment.  I will be considering changing over to bison, since we have a couple local farmers raising and selling it in the small local butcher shops. It may provide some peace of mind just the same.

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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2006 at 12:22pm

Rivendellpets, welcome aboard. Your knowledge will be very much appreciated.

I have a question for you: i used to be involved with a Feline Rescue Group and as a result, now have 13 cats, all inside in their own two rooms. Somebody suggested galrlic/brewers yeast as a flea treatment, but I don't know the proper dosage or what kind of garlic. Are we talking regular garlic powder? Any information?? TIA

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  Quote Rivendellpets Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 18 2006 at 9:46am

I know there are brewers yeast tabs for dogs but I have not used them for cats. The feral colony we have here has not had any fleas yet and they are here over 1 year. Lucky I guess. One way of controlling it is using Advantage on them when they go for their annual ck up and vacs.

 

I stopped using chemical pesticides on all my guys. The chemicals can cause cancer after about 8-10 years of use. They get away with selling the products because statistically pets don't live that long anyway. Well, ours usually live far beyond 10 years. My German Shepherd is 16 and still has a hearty appetite. I just comb them everyday in the summer, looking for bugs. Our cats stay inside and the dogs are outside for excerise  and then spend the rest of their time indoors in the summer. Flies, fleas and ticks carry too many bad diseases these days to indulge in outdoor lounging. It is unfortunate. But we have screened areas for sun and fresh air. .......I would ask a vet about a dosage of Brewers Yeast for cats.

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  Quote asatrape Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 18 2006 at 3:12pm
We have three dogs.  Two are penned in good weather while we work and one is primarily an inside dog.  What I plan to do is screen in my front porch, just to give them a place to go when I have to get them out from underfoot. 
We have also been planning on building some sort of deck in our backyard.  They just have a fenced pen at the back of the property now.  So what we're going to do is the basic framing, just like we were building a back deck, but leave the base grass, cheap plastic covering for the roof, and wire the whole area in.  That way the dogs can go outside when they need to, no birds can come in, and no droppings can fall into the area.

I'm doing this regardless of whether or not H2H transmission becomes an issue.  Since dogs and cats can be exposed and die and/or carry this monster, even such basic things as how you keep your pets needs to be addressed.


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Bird DOO 

 
cut paste a portion of this article:
"Transmission: Feces (manure) are the most important source of avian influenza virus. Following infection a bird that recovers from the illness will pass live virus for 7 to 14 days and occasionally up to four weeks. High moisture and low temperatures will keep the virus alive up to several months when the conditions are ideal. Anything that can walk, crawl, fly or roll can transmit the virus from one place to another, and is probably the way it has been spread from one farm to another in Asia. It is probably the principal method of spread by wild birds to domestic flocks. Airborne infection can occur but aside from confined flocks is probably rather rare. Eggs and dead birds are quite infectious and must be handled with care.

Disinfection: Avian influenza virus is exceedingly sensitive to heat, drying, and almost all commonly used disinfectants. Heating a chicken house to over 90 degrees Fahrenheit will kill the virus in three hours. Drying the litter will kill the virus. Any detergent, formaldehyde, bleach, ammonia, all sorts of acids, iodine containing solutions are effective and reliable methods of killing the virus."
 
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I dont know about you all but my dog loves stinky rotten stuff, loves to roll in it, sniff it, eat it,  etc.  She's not going out - she's tiny 7 lbs., paper trained.
I cannot believe they have not warned folks especially those with retrievers.  Instead they worry about the poultry industry and $'s.
 

 
 
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  Quote May Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2006 at 9:46am
hi Bannor,
 
Is it possible to keep the cats inside now?  We do.  I think if the ladies really like the cats...it may make you unpopular if you do them in.
 
You do have a point if it becomes unsafe ie you can't keep them from trying to get out, we open the windows on the porch for ours.
 
 
 
 
 
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  Quote GrizzlyGirl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 11 2006 at 11:31am
Originally posted by jackson

I wanted to post this but first I'd like to say that I am NOT a vet so PLEASE talk to your vet about this first:
My sister has a dog that has been sick for a little while and has lost some weight. Even though he is about 6 years old, the vet told her that it was OK to buy the dog "puppy chow" for a while becuase it is higher in calories and it might help him to gain weight back. (I am sure that there may be better alternatives than this, but that's what the vet told her she could do if she wanted to. Her dog is recovering and will be fine but my sister said he did lose some weight and she was concerned about that)

If there is pandemic and pet owners have difficulty buying enough pet food, maybe it might be a good idea to consider buying some Puppy or Kitten food (even if you have an adult pet)  to help your pet maintain his or her weight , especially if you don't have as much food available as your pet normally would eat.
Like I said, I am not a vet, so this may not be good advice. My sister just told me that her vet said it has extra calories and I thought that if animals are not able to eat as much as they are used to , they may lose weight and having this higher calories food may help them to maintain their weight for a while.
 
Good Point! I am not a vet either but it is true that puppy and kitten food has been supplemented more so than adult dog/cat food. The reason is so that the puppies/kittens get the vital nutrients that they need in the first year of their lives. I also know that store bought pet foods are the worst you can buy. Sorry to bear bad news but there is a reason it is so much cheaper than the pet stores. All those store-bought foods are so high in grains that your pets are lucky if they are getting even half of the recommended daily allowance of meats and proteins so vital to their good health. I bought some really great dog food (TimberWolf Organics) several months ago on the recommendation of the gals at my local pet store. Yes...It was a bit more expensive but the good part is this...My dog and cats eat far less food than they did before (when they we eating Science Diet and Eukanuba) because there are no fillers or grains in this food (if there is it is VERY little). Needless to say I have oticed a dramatic difference in their enrgy levels, their coats, and skin, and overall health. They are all eating less because they don't need to fill up on all those fillers and by-products. This dog and cat food is really the best. My dog (part chow...lots of har!!) hardly sheds anymore and the cats fur (all three of them) is softer and silkier with less shedding too. Anyway, I guess I kind of got off track a little but thought I saw an in to recommend (HIGHLY) a great food that may skimp on the amount of food your pets consume because it is such high quality. Like I said it is more expensive at the register but I am sure it will be much less expensive in the long run if it helps keep them strong and healthy and last longer because they don't have to stuff themselves ith grains and fillers. Believe me. if TSHTF, my animals will be sharing small rations of our rice too so they'll get that grain anyway.
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  Quote GrizzlyGirl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 11 2006 at 11:53am
Originally posted by steve 101

have you considered getting in rice and pasta for the dogs. Its bulky so fills them up and provides calories. It is the protein bit that may be a problem  Anyone any ideas please for the protein.  And if you could freeze some beef fat straight off the cow that also provides energy

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I [posted a reply about a great dog food that is loaded with meats and vegetables and has hardly any grains in it. The only problem with feeding them rice and pasta is that yes it fills them up but they get so little nutrients from it. They are not like us with regards to metabolizing caloric intake from cabohydrates. Too many carbs in pets can cause all kinds of maladies (heart problems, kidney damage, obesity, etc., etc.,). Cats and dogs (cats more so) are primarily carnivores and sustain their diet primarily with meats and sometimes a fruit or veggie. This is why most of the pet foods on te market today is considered crap. Because they use so many by-products and fillers from grains and stuff, our pets get so little of what they really need to have a healthy diet. If you cannot feed your animals a completely raw diet (which they would eat in the wild) then resort to feeding them the best food you can get with the highest meat protein and the least amount of fillers, grain or by-products. A good rule of thumb when buying food for your pets is to look at the first 10-15 ingredients. If any of those first ingredients are any type of grain (corn is especially bad because it is hard on their digestive system) then i would suggest checking outother foods. On recommendation from my pet store, the top five pet foods are (In order of quality)
1.) Timberwolf Organics or Innova (tied)
2.) Raw Instinct
3.) Wellness or Old Mother Hubbard (tied)
4.) Royal Canin
5.) Nutro ( I found bugs in the last bag I bought ...Never Again)
 
Well, I hope this has been a little insightful for all of you who have had questions about pet food. I swear by TimberWolf but I have heard alot of great things about Innova and Raw Instinct. The only reason I am hooked on Timberwolf for my pets is because I have found it to have the best results, but I haven't tried Raw Instinct yet. I do give my dog Innova treats thought and she loves them. Good luck to all of you and Happy Tails!
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  Quote GrizzlyGirl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 11 2006 at 12:06pm
Originally posted by jackson

One of my old neighors used to have little dog slippers to put on her dog's feet.  I don't knwo where she got them from but maybe you could look into something like that. They might be easier to clean or to just throw away if you needed to.   Then you wouldn't have to worry about your dog tracking germs and stuff throughout your house.
 
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I posted this in another thread but I thought I would share it with you. I made dog boots out of baggies (cut off the ziploc) and then secured them on her feet with baby or toddler socks. You can buy toddler socks/booties that have non skid on the bottom. Also, when it is time to bring your dog in, just remove the baby booties and drop them in some bleach water to be reused again and throw the baggies (lining) away. Next time it is time for your dog to go out just put a new pair of baggies over his/her paws and secure them with clean baby booties. I plan on doing this every time my dog goes out when TSHTF. It is better to do too much than not enough when keeping those you love (even pets) safe from harm.
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