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 Topic: What Is The Latest On The Origin Of Swine Flu?Posted: April 27 2009 at 7:49am |
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ABC News.....
I'm not sure where this reporter's info came from... or how accurate it is.
ABC News (in 2nd Video)
Reporter says swine Flu ... may be from Cuban contact with infected pigs.
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From H.S.Moma...
On Friday, the U.S. disease-tracking blog Biosurveillance published a timeline of the outbreak containing this nugget, dated April 6 (major tip of the hat to
Paula Hay, who alerted me to the Smithfield link on the Comfood listserv and
has written about it on her blog, Peak Oil Entrepreneur):
Residents [of Perote] believed the outbreak had been caused by contamination from pig breeding farms located in the area. They believed that the farms, operated by
Granjas Carroll, polluted the atmosphere and local water bodies, which in turn led to
the disease outbreak.
According to residents, the company denied responsibility for the outbreak and
attributed the cases to “flu.” However, a municipal health official stated that
preliminary investigations indicated that the disease vector was a type of fly that
reproduces in pig waste and that the outbreak was linked to the pig farms.
It was unclear whether health officials had identified a suspected pathogen
responsible for this outbreak.
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Why Hasn't the CDC told us the composition of this Flu?
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According to China....
Mexico Ministry of Health officials informed that the country has reached more than 4,000 suspected cases of people.
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...Meanwhile, Novartis said the World Health Organization had contacted it
about developing a vaccine against swine flu. The company has received
some preliminary information about the virus and expects to get a sample
of it soon. It typically takes three to six months to produce a new vaccine,
but it’s unclear how long it will take for swine flu, the company said.
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Posted: April 27 2009 at 9:00am |
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Baxter To Develop Swine Flu Vaccine Despite Bird Flu Scandal
Steve Watson
Infowars.net Monday, April 27, 2009 A U.S. based pharmaceutical company that just weeks ago was involved in a scandal involving vaccines tainted with deadly avian flu virus has been chosen to head up efforts to produce a vaccine for the Mexican swine flu that has seemingly migrated into the U.S. and Europe. Baxter confirmed over the weekend that it is working with the World Health Organization on a potential vaccine to curb the deadly swine flu virus that is blamed for scores of deaths in Mexico and has emerged as a threat in the U.S., reports the Chicago Tribune.
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Posted: April 27 2009 at 9:12am |
I hope everyone prints this off...Interim Guidance for Swine influenza A (H1N1): Taking Care of a Sick Person in Your HomeApril 25, 2009 18:30 EDT This document provides interim guidance and will be updated as needed.
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Posted: April 27 2009 at 9:32am |
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If you live in areas where swine influenza cases have been identified and become ill with influenza-like symptoms, including fever, body aches, runny nose, sore throat, nausea, or vomiting or diarrhea, you may want to contact their health care provider, particularly if you are worried about your symptoms. Your health care provider will determine whether influenza testing or treatment is needed.
If you are sick, you should stay home and avoid contact with other people as much as possible to keep from spreading your illness to others. If you become ill and experience any of the following warning signs, seek emergency medical care. In children emergency warning signs that need urgent medical attention include:
How serious is swine flu infection? source
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Posted: April 27 2009 at 9:44am |
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I read this morning that we may be looking at this backwards, that the swine flu actually originated in the US and mutated in Mexico, what do y'all think of that, makes sense to me and explains the severity there.
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Posted: April 27 2009 at 10:17am |
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Gosh, it is so reassuring that Baxtor may be involved in developing the vaccine for this flu. They are the ones who mailed packages all over the world of the reconstituted live spanish flu "by accident." Fortunately, a researcher with a brain and a sense of ethics, checked what he received before using it and notified Baxtor about their error.
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Posted: April 27 2009 at 11:59am |
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Just don't be the first in line, let the others test the vacine before you take it, How long can H5N1 be in your body before you get sick? But then again, maybe we can get some random shots and have congress and baxter all line up and test it for us.
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Posted: April 27 2009 at 1:40pm |
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excellent idea... wondering how many will rush out for vaccine...Could be HSMoma...we are right up there with the number of strains floating.
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Posted: April 27 2009 at 1:44pm |
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I, for one, will not be getting any shots. I read the whole 1918 pandemic information on the web and it had cases of non vaccinated people saying that vaccinated people were the ones dying. not to be a conspiracy theorists or anything, but they know nothing about this strain at all so any type of vaccine at this point would have to be experimental in my mind!
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Posted: April 27 2009 at 5:05pm |
Makes sense since the first two cases, back in February were in North Dakota and Spain.  Add in Europeans & Americans flocking down there for spring break... and there you go!
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Posted: April 27 2009 at 6:33pm |
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I read the same info yrs ago...like with SARS.... they found coinfection as in most pandemics....and the high mortality rates will be in 3rd world /tropical areas.
seems the theory is spreading...
from wikipedia
The origins of the new virus strain remain unknown. One theory is that Asian and European strains traveled to Mexico in migratory birds or in people, then combined with North American strains in Mexican pig factory farms before jumping over to farm workers.[60]
The first evidence of abnormal influenza patterns in Mexico arose when Notimex, a Mexican newswire, reported on April 5 that Mexican health officials had taken sanitary measures in the rural towns of Perote, Quechulá and Xaltepec due to the spread of a disease affecting 60% of the population and with symptoms similar to those associated with the influenza virus.[61]
The Mexican health agency acknowledged that the original disease vector of the virus may have been flies multiplying in manure lagoons of pig farms near Perote, Veracruz, owned by Granjas Carroll,[62]
a subsidiary of Smithfield Foods.[63] Smithfield Foods retorted that that it had found no clinical signs or symptoms of the presence of swine influenza in the company's swine herd, or its employees at its joint ventures in Mexico, and that it routinely administers influenza
virus vaccination to their swine herds and conducts monthly testing for the presence of swine influenza.[64]
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Posted: April 28 2009 at 4:57pm |
 about the severity of the Swine Flu in Mexico...please note the proximity of pork production to Mexico City. We have our pork farming away from large cities?
Remember the washing of trucks driving to and from chicken production plants? Was that disinfection happening in Mexico?
We shouldn't be shocked at what came about.
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Posted: April 28 2009 at 5:20pm |
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I still don't understand how the bird flu got into this flu virus mix. Did someone bring a bird from asia to the pig farm. We haven't had any H5N1 in the US or Mexico, so how did it get into the mix?
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Posted: April 28 2009 at 6:02pm |
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from a post I made April 23.
CDC Emerging Infections
......................................... (Asia has been considered as an epicenter for the generation of pandemic influenza virus, and some factors are high densities of humans and animals in close contact (1). In Yucatan, the backyard system is a common practice, and human and animal encounters could lead to generation of novel reassortant viruses here as well.)
Serologic Evidence of Human and Swine Influenza in Mayan Persons
Guadalupe Ayora-Talavera,* Juan Manuel Cadavieco-Burgos,* and Alejandro Bernardino Canul-Armas* *Universidad Autónoma de Yucatan, Mérida, Yucatan Antibodies against influenza viruses were detected in 115 serum samples from indigenous
Mayan persons from Kochol, Yucatan (Mexico)
Seropositivity rates were
26.9% to A/Bayern/7/95, (Germany) ( Euro)
40.8% to A/Sydney/5/97, Australia (Asian?)
1.7% to A/Swine/Wisconsin/238/97, and
79.1% to A/Swine/Minnesota/593/99.
This report is the first in Mexico of the prevalence of antibodies to swine influenza virus in humans. (2005)
influenza virus can move from 1 species to another. The pig has been proposed as an animal that could play a key intermediary role in interspecies transmission. Pigs are the only domesticated mammalian species that are reared in abundance and are susceptible to both avian and human influenza virus and allow productive viral replication (1,2).
In rural zones in the Mexican state of Yucatán, the "backyard system," a production system in which animals such as pigs, ducks, turkeys, and chickens are all raised in close proximity to humans, is common. In Kochol, pigs are found around the town, walking in and out of houses. All pigs are wild or criollos. Some families have 1-18 pigs. The results indicate that influenza virus infection occurs in a large proportion of persons in this area. In general, Mexican persons are not vaccinated, so we can be sure that the antibodies detected reflect actual infection (5). The highest seropositivity rates across all age groups were detected with the A/Sw/Minnesota virus as antigen. Although this strain was isolated from American pigs, the HA, NA, and PB1 genes are of human origin (6). seropositivity to the swine H1 virus was only detected in 2 samples from persons 43 and 59 years of age. However, lower titers were detected in 4 more persons 33–55 years of age. The weak reactivity to this virus could suggest a past exposure of adult persons to viruses of swine origin, a situation that has not occurred in persons >30 years of age. Serologic evidence of swine antibodies in persons in contact with pigs has been reported in several studies (7–12). In Mexico, apart from this report, no information about the prevalence of antibodies to swine influenza virus in humans exists.
The only information available comes from a study carried out on pig farms in central Mexico, where the subtype H1 is prevalent in 20% of pigs (13) and from a previous study from Yucatán, where the most prevalent subtype in pig farms is H3 (65%) and H1 (20%) (14). As a result of the Mexican outbreak of HPAI H5N2, the Mexican Ministry of Agriculture (SAGARPA) implemented a national surveillance system in all chicken farms (NOM-044-ZOO-1995).
Chicken farms are sampled 3 times a year for serologic surveillance, and 10% of the backyard flocks are sampled annually (15). On the other hand, swine influenza is not considered within the SAGARPA priorities, and no surveillance program exists for swine farms, although we found serologic evidence that in Yucatán influenza H3 subtype is highly prevalent (14).
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Posted: April 28 2009 at 6:17pm |
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How about calling it
A/swine/yucatan/2009 (H1N1)
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Posted: April 28 2009 at 7:20pm |
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Hello everyone
I don't post often just lurk (LOL) but i spoke to a long time friend in Texas in the hospitals they are pushing gloves not masks it seems they believe this is not air born it is from contact on surfaces or touching and can live for 72 hrs on surfaces so get out the gloves and germ x.This too shall pass. Stay alert. |
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Posted: April 28 2009 at 9:22pm |
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Swine flu's ground zero? Mexican residents say nearby, U.S.-owned farm spread pig waste by Olga R. Rodriguez / Associated Press
Tuesday April 28, 2009, 6:42 PM LA GLORIA, Mexico -- The people in this town of 3,000 high in the Veracruz mountains believe their community is ground zero for the swine flu epidemic, even if health officials deny it. The town is home to Mexico's earliest confirmed case of swine flu, a 4-year-old boy who was among more than 450 residents who complained of respiratory problems. They blame contamination spread by pig waste at nearby breeding farms co-owned by a U.S. company. But the company says it found no sign of swine flu on its farms, and Mexican authorities haven't determined how or where the swine flu outbreak began.
As early as February, residents began complaining of unusually strong flu symptoms. They blamed a farm that lies upwind, five miles (8.5 kilometers) to the north. By late March, roughly one-sixth of the community of 3,000 began suffering from severe respiratory infections.
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http://www.cleveland.com/world/index.ssf/2009/04/swine_flus_ground_zer o_mexican.html
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