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francojames
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Posted: April 27 2009 at 1:44pm |
BBC News 9 pm WHO has now raised level to phase 4
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gady71
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CONFIRMED , CNN.TV confirmed too.
Mexican HEALTH department confirm that the WHO it will rise PANDEMIC ALERT LEVEL AT 4
WHO raised PANDEMIC LEVEL to PHASE 4
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I do apologize for my poor english. Prepare for the Worst and Hope for the Best!
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jacksdad
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I just logged on to post the same thing - I checked the WHO situation updates a few minutes ago and they're officially at level 4. I used to get a lot of reassurance from seeing the 3 flashing away when I came here, and now I'm sitting here with some serious goosebumps
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"Buy it cheap. Stack it deep"
"Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary. |
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The raising of the alert level makes me think things are worse than they're saying. Since according to the official numbers it's not bad enough to warrant a change.
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We must always fear the wicked. But there is another kind of evil that we must fear the most, and that is the indifference of good men.
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We should be at level 5. What a bunch of cowards.
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I agree with you!
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There is nothing to fear except the persistent refusal to find out the truth, the persistent refusal to analyze the causes of happenings. ~ Dorothy Thompson
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This next phase will get the funds flowing... for vaccine etc.... Please note...
Phase 4 indicates a significant increase in risk of a pandemic but does not necessarily mean that a pandemic is a forgone conclusion.
Not in the sense that we will see the number of deaths that they terrorized people wiith in movies.
We have had Pandemics before ...
In 1929-1930......There was a Pandemic of Porcine A/SW/31
In 1947.......... there was a Pandemic of A/FM/1/47/H1N1
In 1957.............there was a Pandemic of A/SING/1/57/H2N2
In 1968-1969..... there was a Pandemic of A/HK/1/68 / H3N2
In 1976 ............there was a limited epidemic of (porcine) SWh1n1
In 1977.............there was a Pandemic A/USSR/90/77/ H1N1
The data demonstrate that the A/USSR/90/77 strain is a recombinant virus.
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H1N1&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
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momasaurus7
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Oh God, please don't say that, I'm not ready for this.
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We must always fear the wicked. But there is another kind of evil that we must fear the most, and that is the indifference of good men.
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We have had Pandemics before ...
In 1929-1930......There was a Pandemic of Porcine A/SW/31
In 1947.......... there was a Pandemic of A/FM/1/47/H1N1
In 1957.............there was a Pandemic of A/SING/1/57/H2N2
In 1968-1969..... there was a Pandemic of A/HK/1/68 / H3N2
In 1976 ............there was a limited epidemic of (porcine) SWh1n1
In 1977.............there was a Pandemic A/USSR/90/77/ H1N1
The data demonstrate that the A/USSR/90/77 strain is a recombinant virus.
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H1N1&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
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Wolfmanjack
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Well 2 days ago i posted that i thought they would raise it within 1-5 days .. In this situation i hate being right.
Just a heads up for anyone in CA . 1 confirmed case reported in Sacramento with possible 12 more.. I also agree that it should be lvl 5 |
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Interim Recommendations for Facemask and Respirator Use in Certain Community Settings Where Swine Influenza A (H1N1) Virus Transmission Has Been DetectedApril 27, 2009 011:00AM ET This document provides interim guidance and will be updated as needed. CDC testing shows U.S. strain & Mexico strain of swine flu virus are genetic match.
http://bit.ly/kgu8l #swineflu12:19 PM Apr 26th from web
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Yep - I should think we'll be at 5 within a few days at the most as more cases appear in the States and elsewhere. The number has already jumped from the original eight in NY, so it's on the move. I already miss the 3...
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Mexico City faces threat of shutdownBy Adam Thomson in Mexico City Published: April 27 2009 18:35 | Last updated: April 27 2009 18:35
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Mexico City authorities on Monday admitted they might have to “shut down” Mexico’s sprawling capital in an effort to combat an outbreak of swine flu that has so far claimed the lives of up to 149 people, according to official reports. Marcelo Ebrard, the city’s mayor, said on Monday morning that the next step in trying to quarantine the virus, a hybrid of human and animal influenza strains that scientists have never seen, could be shutting down the public transport network. article here-
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Why are they not being specific about the composition of this New Strain?
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It's interesting but is it true?
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gady71
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I do apologize for my poor english. Prepare for the Worst and Hope for the Best!
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The Lady in LA says...don't gp muts...go about your business. She says influenza B is going around in some areas. Masks are not effective...no reason to wear masks unless you are a healthcare person doing a test...even in the home it isn't that helpful....false sense of security. Cases in US are mainly in school age. Co-infection can be a factor in deaths... No community wide control measures. If you are sick...stay home. Don't hoard Tamiflu...no need...to keep it in your drawer. Swine flu is not as virulent as Avian Flu Schools will only close if there is actual transmissions...it's up to the individual schools (not in NY...state closed a school...different states have different laws) In The US this flu is not any different than seasonal Flu.Reporter-
"You are down playing the deadly nature of this flu....has it been blown out of proportion?"
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"It is of concern..."
Too bad we can't hear the questions...
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We dom't know what is driving what...we don't know the background level of influenza in Mexico...
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If we are at 4, then you can pretty much figure there is a great deal of data which has not been released. Personally, on my lines I am getting too much to post- so I guess for the most part I am going to concentrate getting my writing out ASAP and accessible. Yes the 3 was reassuring and 4 - well they would never go to 4 unless it was very likely to go to Pandemic. I just heard higher number from New York and other places. This stuff is spreading. Understand if things get too intense- we are going to start having a serious bandwidth problem on the net. In addition, the communication and power grid load is going to be under a lot of stress. Events are happening in the world other than Swine Flu. These events, the invasion as the Taliban press towards the capital in Pakistan, and other matter concerning the economy are no less important. Has anyone considered in the event of a net failure, where that would put things? I am trying to update more survival material and get it up and people should download and print up stuff that is on the site and other locations. Do not rely on the net. Medclinician |
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Sacramento...has cases
PCR -Test takes 6 hrs to run....these are preliminary Tests...final from CDC...soon our public health may have the reagents and we will be able to do the tests here...
San Diego
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relative of 4th case is ill ...6 teachers are ill...need lab confirmation....private elem. School...
It is throughout our community....we are getting the antiviral stockpile 750,000....we are getting courses for 50,000 people
We are recommending face masks now....CDC has info....n95 MASK IF THEY ARE TAKING CARE OF A CONFIRMED PATIENT....
Sorry about caps....
wash hands before you eat and after you blow your nose.
Why the masks?
This is a new virus...we do not have immunity...protect ourselves is prudent...
(Can not hear questions...)
We are asking people to stay home (if ill)...if you have trouble breathing, call your doctor.
New guidelines today are to Close schools... these are guidelines....we are acting agressively.
more nasal swabs are being considered now.
Closeures ...a local...joint decision.
We find out from nurses (about ill children)
will have results in about 24 hrs from CDC
The 5 confirmed cases had no history of travel to Mexico.
No info on 20 yr old.
if there is one confirmed case it is recommended that the school close for 7 days.
Can't give location of where sick person resides.
The school is closed. One confirmed ... 6 teachers are probable.
(the White House should have this Lady as spokesperson...)
San Diego Calif.
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Mexico city has been shut down since the big earthquake in the 80's . I feel sorry for all the poor souls down there. They have Public health care.
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The military that are stationed overseas must be wondering when the day will come when the importance changes from things overseas to things at home.
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Lori... I was just thinking about the military...There are so many carrier groups out there...I wonder if they will just stay out there until we have a vaccine or it dies out...no pun intended. Any military wives to fill us in on how long the guys will be out there?
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Hello Norfolk.... used to live down that way....north of it.
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I'm in CA. Now CA has 8 all together I think, am I right? I have both so cal and norcal backing so im stuck either way and I agree with ya'll its def. at level 5 IMHO. Because what happened to them saying everything is fine and then out of nowhere, make this emergency meeting, something seems suspicious to me. =\
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Be prepared! It may be time....^_^v
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My local news in Michigan this morning mentioned that the CDC would probably go to 5 today. Dr. Oz said not to panic, but to be prepared for more school closures and who will watch your kids if you go to work. Fortunately I work from home and hubby (being that we are MI) has been laid off since January. Two case in MI so far (closest one hour south of my home). We won't be going anywhere
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Today the senior crowd is headed out to Sams to get a few supplies....they most likely watch Fox News...my Pop even heard about the possible level 5 alert. We are going to get some frozen food and water....batteries. I'm a battery nut, I can't live without music playing in the background.
The info was up yesterday on Smithfield Foods (subsidiary?) pig farm... if anyone finds it please put it over here..or it may be on a different page ...
here is a blurb on it... (from above post)
In Mexico, where the only related deaths have been reported, state health authorities looking for the initial source of the outbreak toured a million-pig hog farm in Perote, in Veracruz State. The plant is half-owned by Smithfield Foods, an American company and the world's largest pork producer.
and on the issue of moving faster on alert level.... (WHO can not force any country to act faster.... Mexico felt itself in a difficult spot... (I'm not sensing a lot of sympathy on that)
...But he (Dr. Fukuda) conceded that " the committee (WHO) is very aware that changes have quite significant political and economic effects on countries."...
I imagine that the US needed to pledge some bucks and get behind this big time ...colaboration was in the works...as Mexico may have had a pretty good idea where it all started down there....pig farrm...otherwise the news of it wouldn't have shot through the BlogSphere so fast.
It was on the news last night.
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keep pets safe...
This may account for the appearance of H5N1 in an alarmingly diverse range of species. The 2004 family tree indicates that the H5N1 strain dominant in southeast Asia originated in domestic ducks. It has, however, now become endemic in poultry across Asia, found its way into countless species of wild bird, and even turned up in mammals such as pigs, cats, leopards, tigers, and, of course, humans. The concern is that one of the many genetic incarnations of this virus will hit upon what it takes to be transferred from person to person. http://biology.plosjournals.org/perlserv/?request=get-document&doi=10.1371/journal.pbio.0040050&ct=1
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Why doesn't the PANDEMIC ALERT LEVEL at the top-right of the page flash "4" the current WHO level. It's set to "3"..
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hi... I see 4 there...
MED....
next call...
call presentations have not been formally disseminated by CDC and should not be constructed to represent any agency determination or policy.
.. Today at 2pm...CDC is having a call for medical personnel pass it on to Doc's etc. http://emergency.cdc.gov/coca/callinfo.asp?s_cid=tw_epr_77
they will discuss...the Stafford Act...which allows the Pres to provide emergency declaration to the states...in the event
that they may be overwhelmed...this also triggers FEMA...to provide finamcial and emergency services. The Governor
of each state will need to put in writing a request to the Fed. that the situation is beyond the state's capabilities. or the Pres. can himself issue an emergency declaration.... ie. Primary Federal Responsibility.
Readiness, surge capacity,Medical Reserve Corp., supply of volunteers, Fed & State cooperation, Deployment of
personnel, Reg and Reserve - Civilian Commisioned Corps, NDMS, MCR, ESAR-VHP, PHE, National Stockpile, EUA,
PREP Act, Quarantine, etc. HHS Secretary "shall lead all Federal Public Health and medical response to Public Health emergencies and incidents covered by the National Response (Framework)" PHS Act 2811
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Why is the pandemic alert level on AFT still saying 3? An I missing something?
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I repeat :) I see 4 flashing...
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