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    Posted: September 05 2009 at 10:00pm
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                      New Harmony Vision
 
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Community Experiment in America (1825)
 
New Moral World, Owen's envisioned successor of New Harmony.
 
Owenites fired bricks to build it, but construction never took place.At last, in 1825, such
an experiment was attempted under the direction of his disciple, Abram Combe, at
Orbiston near Glasgow; and in the next year Owen himself commenced another
 
at New Harmony, Indiana, U.S.A.,
 
sold to him by George Rapp.

 
After a trial of about two years both failed completely, due to Owen's lack of presence to
govern either of the communities. Neither of them was a pauper experiment; but it must
be said that the members were of the most motley description, many worthy people of
the highest aims being mixed with vagrants, adventurers, and crotchety, wrongheaded
enthusiasts, or in the words of Owen's son "a heterogeneous collection of radicals...
honest latitudinarians, and lazy theorists, with a sprinkling of unprincipled sharpers
thrown in."
 
 
Josiah Warren, who was one of the participants in the New Harmony Society, asserted
that community was doomed to failure due to a lack of individual sovereignty and
private property. He says of the community:
 
 
"We had a world in miniature - we had enacted the French revolution over again with
despairing hearts instead of corpses as a result. - It appeared that it was nature's own
inherent law of diversity that had conquered us - our "united interests" were directly at
war with the individualities of persons and circumstances and the instinct of self-
preservation..." (Periodical Letter II 1856)
 
 
 
 
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Google the name of your state and Socialism.
 
example
 
vermont and socialism
 
Virginia and socialism
 
It may ... give you the     Willies.   Or not.
 
 
 
I did it with Massachusetts.....  (because they passed that "Pandemic Clampdown"
 
and the spotlight is on them for the moment.
 
 
 
 
So check out your own State for the      Tone Of The Day. 
 
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Massachusetts
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Govt Health Care: Lessons from the People's Republic of MassachusettsJul 29, 2009 ... No
 
wonder I and many others call the Massachusetts experiment with American socialism a
 
“model for disaster.” ...
 

 
SOCIALIST ALTERNATIVE
 
Socialist Alternative is a national organization fighting in our workplaces, communities, and campuses against the exploitation and injustices people face every day.

We are union activists fighting for workers’ rights and militant, democratic unions; we are people of color speaking out against racism, students organizing against sweatshops and war, immigrants demanding papers for all undocumented workers, women and men fighting sexism and homophobia.

We campaign for the building of a mass workers’ party to represent the interests of workers, youth, and the environment against the two parties of big business. We see the global capitalist system as the root cause of terrorism, war, poverty, discrimination, and environmental destruction.
 
 
As capitalism moves deeper intocrisis and recession, a new generation of workers and youth must join together to take the top 500 corporations into public ownership.
We believe the dictatorships that existed in the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe were perversions of what socialism is really about. We are for democratic socialism where people will have control over their daily lives.
 
Socialist Alternative is in political solidarity with the Committee for a Workers’ International, a worldwide socialist organization in 37 countries, on every continent. Join us!
 
What is Socialism - Public Meeting in Quincy
June 11th, 2009
What Is Socialism?
Public meeting in Quincy hosted by Socialist Alternative
 
Monday, June 15th7:00 - Quincy, MA
 
This recession is causing many people to question the capitalist economic system and to
seek alternatives.
 
A recent poll by Rasmussen found that only 53% of American adults believe that capitalism
 
is better than socialism. 33% of adults under 30 prefer socialism.
 
from-
 
 
Boston Socialist Alternative
3rd Annual Massachusetts Socialism Conference. April 23rd, 2009 ... Association in local Classified Staff Union at the University of Massachusetts Boston. ...
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    If you wish to read ... paste them into-
     
    books.google.com

    The American Socialist Movement 1897-1912 By Ira Kipnis
     
    Socialism and the workers in Massachusetts, 1886-1912 By Henry F. Bedford
     
    Marxian socialism in the United States By Daniel Bell
     
    The present status of socialism in America ... By Jessie Wallace Hughan
     
    The essentials of socialism By Ira Brown Cross
     
     
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    Socialism?
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    Contrary to popular belief,


    socialism is not a political system; it is an economic system distinct from capitalism.

     

    Examples of contemporary economic systems include


    capitalist systems,

    socialist systems,

    and mixed economies.

     

     

     

     "planned market economy?"
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    A planned economy or directed economy


    ...Its most extensive form is referred to as a

    command economy,[3]

    centrally planned economy, or command and control economy[4].


    In such economies, central economic planning by the state or government is so


    extensive that it controls all major sectors of the economy and formulates all decisions


    about their use and about the distribution of income.[5]


    The planners decide what should be produced and direct enterprises to produce those
    goods.[6]


    Planned economies are in contrast to unplanned economies, such as a market

    economy, where production, distribution, pricing, and investment decisions are made by

    the private owners of the factors of production based upon their own interests rather

    than upon furthering some overarching macroeconomic plan. Less extensive forms of

    planned economies include those that use indicative planning, in which the state

    employs

    "influence,

    subsidies,

    grants,

    and taxes,

    but does not compel."[7]


    This latter is sometimes referred to as a "planned market economy".[8]

     

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    Utopian Socialism
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    was the US's first Socialist movement.
     
    Utopians attempted to develop model socialist societies to demonstrate the virtues of their
     
    brand of beliefs. Most Utopian socialist ideas originated in Europe, but the US was most
     
    often the site for the experiments themselves. Many Utopian experiments occurred in the
     
    19th century as part of this movement, including:
     
     
    Brook Farm
    the Harmony Society
    the Shakers
    the Amana Colonies
    the Oneida Community
     
      The Icarians
    Bishop Hill Commune
    Aurora, Oregon
    Bethel, Missouri
     
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    The North American Phalanx (NAP)


    was a secular Utopian community located in Colts Neck Township, in Monmouth
    County, New Jersey.

    The NAP was based on the ideas of Charles Fourier, and lasted from 1841 to 1856.

    Fourier was a French philosopher who believed people would be better off living in

    communal societies rather than individual, private living.


    Fourier developed the idea of the phalanstère, a community of 1,600 based in a single
    structure. In the phalanstère, there would be private property, but many activities
    including eating and cooking would be communal.


    Fourier had many American followers, including Albert Brisbane who did a great deal to popularize Fourierism in the United States.

    Charles Sears, a follower of Brisbane, decided to make Fourier's ideas a reality.

    He and Nathan Starks founded a Fourierist group in Albany, New York.

    Sears would take on several leadership roles in the course of the NAP's history. Several people including Brisbane, Horace Greeley, and Park Goodwin helped create a commission to found the community. For $14,000, the commission purchased 673 acres (2.72 km2) in Monmouth from Hendrick Longstreet and Daniel Holmes on January 1, 1844. Settlement began over 6 months with men starting the community and women and children joining in the Spring of 1845.

    The original site consisted of two farmhouses. In 1847, a three-story addition was built between the two houses to form a single structure. The farmhouses were converted into a kitchen and eating area while the addition was used for living quarters and social areas.

    The community also included "a stream mill, stables, cow and wagon sheds, forges, carpenter shops, a packing house, a school, a day nursery for working mothers, guest cottages, landscaped gardens and paths, and an artificial pond for bathing, boating and ice harvesting in the winter."

    Members of the community were referred to as associates. For most of the NAP's history it had a population of 120-150. Living standards in the NAP were better than average for the country and area at that time. Members were mostly from the Northeast and lower or middle class. People were offered admission based on their skills. Prospective members lived in the community for 30 days before being offered one-year provisional memberships, after which they became full members upon approval of the community. The entire community voted on membership status throughout the process.

    The NAP had a constitution, written in 1843, which provided for administration through a council. Originally, only stockholders voted in elections for the council, but all members were given a vote in an 1848 amendment. The council was composed of a president, vice-president, a treasurer, and twelve directors. Directors served for two years, with staggered terms so that half were elected each year. The rest of the council served one-year terms.

    The NAP had a steady, but slowly declining economy. The NAP divided into six groups: agriculture, livestock, manufacturing, domestic matters, social plans, and education. Wages were below minimum wage compared to American standards, but so was the cost of living, being around $2 per week.

     
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    Dissolution
     
    The community faced a split in 1853 over the women's rights and abolitionist movements and a controversial plan to add a religious affiliation to the community. Many members left over this dispute.
     
     
    A fire swept through on September 10, 1854. The fire destroyed mills and several workshops. The community’s insurance company went bankrupt, and the NAP could not deal with the $10,000 in damages.
     
     
    The community voted to sell its estate in June 1855. Operations ceased in early 1856 and the NAP was legally dissolved January 1, 1857.
    The Phalanx building stood until November, 1972 when it was destroyed in another fire.
     
     
     
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    WHO CARES???? Get this crap off this thread and put it in OT. Can we please clean up the General Discussion section now that Albert's back????
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    I googled  socialism and California.  I couldn't believe what came up.  Thanks for bringing this to our attention!
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    The Propaganda Machine is alive and well on AFT
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    Can't dispute the facts ?

    "To Ignore the facts does not change the facts."
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     should have clarified... I have quite an interest in the period of History when Utopian Societies were popular in the US.  Like the Shakers... we have visited their communities and met an elder in the 1980's, she was in her 90's.... I have a pic of our 2 yr old meeting her :)
     
    I put this up..
     
    Contrary to popular belief,


    socialism is not a political system; it is an economic system distinct from capitalism.

     

    Examples of contemporary economic systems include


    capitalist systems,

    socialist systems,

    and mixed economies.

     
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    Be cause people were becoming worried about  "socialism"  In our country?
     
    and i just think that, It can't happen.  and that we will perhaps have a Govt. assist
     
    eventually (somewhere in the middle)  for our health care.
     
    after all...   So. Sec. amd Medicare/Medicaid are Govt. programs... and I hardly call us
     
    Socialist for that.
     
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                                                          Ephrata Cloister   Pennsylvania
     
     
     
     

    During the time that this group formed, there was a hint of dissatisfied intellectualism of churches. Many wanted to be away from state established churches. Strict religious lives caused these brothers and sisters to come together to worship God in other ways. Instead of practicing their religion, they applied it by helping others to become more spiritual and celibate.
     
     
     
    Among the sisterhood and brotherhood there included a married order of householders, which were families who supported and engaged in the everyday activities. Other than practicing quiet lives by praying and doing charity work [4], the Cloisters had a duty and that duty was to keep up with the tasks of living at Ephrata. Farming and industrial work were the typically workload on a daily basis. Although the Cloisters often practiced their religion by interpreting biblical works, they also engaged in carpentry and papermaking.
     
     
     
     
    Other tasks included gardening, preparing meals, and mending. [5] Not only were the cloisters famous for their writings and hymns on the printing press but they became very busy people especially when it came to chores. They manufactured clothing on a mill and kept their lives busy by creating duties and obligations.
     
     
     
     
    The Cloisters had a positive outlook in life; they respected their neighbors, land and environment. Education was also important in their society. It was important that every child maintain their education. Children that came from families were also encouraged to be educated in the German school. Educating the young was one of the charity works that the Cloisters accomplished. They also helped the poor by passing around bread to the poor families.
     
     
     
     
    Other believing families settled near the community, accepted Beissel as their spiritual leader and worshipped with them on Sabbath. These families made an integral part to the cloister, which could not be self-sustaining without them. The brothers and sisters of Ephrata are famous for their writing and publishing of hymns, and the composition of tunes in four voices. Beissel served as the community's composer as well as spiritual leader, and devised his own system of composition. The Ephrata hymnal (words only) was printed in 1747.
     
     
     
     
    The charismatic Beissel died in 1768, and this contributed to a declining membership. The monastic aspect was gradually abandoned, with the last celibate member dying in 1813. In 1814 the Society was incorporated as the German Seventh Day Baptist Church (or The German Religious Society of Seventh Day Baptists). Branches were established in other locations, some still surviving in 2009. In 1941, a 28-acre (100,000 m²) Ephrata tract of land with remaining buildings was conveyed to the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania for use as a state historical site.
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    also visited Ephrata Cloister.   Lovely tranquil place. 
     
    More info
     
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    Photos by Hermann Luyken
     
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