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    Posted: October 06 2009 at 8:05am
The swine flu vaccine has been hit by new cancer fears after a German health expert gave a shocking warning about its safety.

Lung specialist Wolfgang Wodarg has said that there are many risks associated with the vaccine for the H1N1 virus. The nutrient solution for the vaccine consists of cancerous cells from animals, and some fear that the risk of cancer could be increased by injecting the cells.

The vaccine can also cause worse side effects than the actual swine flu virus.

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My guess is that you can expect to see a lot of panic over this issue in the near future. But the key is to remain calm -- this isn't the first time the public has been warned about swine flu. The last time was in 1976, right before I entered medical school and I remember it very clearly. It resulted in the massive swine flu vaccine campaign.

Do you happen to recall the result of this massive campaign?

Within a few months, claims totaling $1.3 billion had been filed by victims who had suffered paralysis from the vaccine. The vaccine was also blamed for 25 deaths.

However, several hundred people developed crippling Guillain-Barré Syndrome after they were injected with the swine flu vaccine. Even healthy 20-year-olds ended up as paraplegics.

And the swine flu pandemic itself? It never materialized.

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Swine Flu Vaccination: An Injured Subject Speaks Out as Researchers Deny Link

A participant in the german H1N1 vaccine trials reports serious adverse reactions, including coughing up blood, but the lead researcher blows it off. Yet another story of problems in vaccine safety studies that are ignored.

Why test a vaccine exactly, if you already have decided what the outcomes can or cannot be? Apparently Heir Doctor will only accept 'redness and swelling at the injection site' as a side effect.

The article does not say which version of the vaccine he got. Wish there was more information on this case.


A swine flu vaccine test subject from Munich complains about horror side-effects – researchers deny allegations

Swine flu vaccination: A test subject speaks out.

Original German article

21.08.09|Munich iFacebook

Translation into English by Erwin Alber

Munich – A harmless **** – and thereby possibly save thousands of people. This is what several hundreds of volunteers thought, who each collected a payment of 250 Euro for their participation in the study of the swine flu vaccine trial at the Ludwig-Maximilians-University.

One of them has now quit the trial: The Diploma-businessman Axel Sch. (40). He claims : "The vaccination has made me ill! – the test is irresponsible.” He says that within a few hours after the vaccination, on August 10, he had sweat on his forehead. "I felt totally beat. On the third day, my kidneys and head were aching and I got a fever. I then had a coughing fit - and the wash basin was suddenly red - it was blood!“

LMU-medical researcher Frank von Sonnenburg, who is in charge of the country-wide study, doesn’t consider these accounts credible. He says that such side-effects cannot be related to the vaccine. He does not deny that, as with other flu-vaccinations, flu-like symptoms may occur as a reaction to the vaccination. "Additionally, there may be light pain, redness or swelling at the injection site."

"Obviously many of the test subjects would have side-effects. We do such a study precisely because we want to find out any possible side-effects. If flu cases were to become more severe and we had not done any tests, – there would be a big outcry by everyone."

Was the vaccine admitted too quickly to the study? The fact is that in this composition, the vaccine has not yet been applied to humans. The Federal Health Minister Ulla Schmidt explained on Wednesday that she had felt put under pressure by the pharmaceutical industry from the beginning. Criticism is being voiced with increasing frequency. The Paul-Ehrlich-Institute points out that side-effects to this vaccine are to be more expected than in connection with a normal flu-vaccine. The Paediatric Association points to a possibly increased number of unknown side-effects.

British researchers even warn about a neurological disorder known as the Guillain-Barré-Syndrome. They point to a vaccination campaign with a similar swine flu vaccine carried out in the USA in 1976, which resulted in the deaths of 25 people.

Probably because of this, the USA only test vaccines without so-called adjuvants. These lead to greater side-effects, explains study leader Frank von Sonnenburg. "The adjuvants produce more anti-bodies, which is why the body’s defensive reaction is also greater." Kidney pains and bloody cough of the kind Axel Sch. Experienced were however not to be expected, even with this adjuvant. "We conduct a clean study."

Axel Sch. however insists that his complaints were a result of the vaccination. "Surely it is no coincidence that they occurred directly after the vaccination." He criticizes the university, saying that he was not properly informed prior to the study. He said that for three days he was flat on his back during this heat. "When I phoned the LMU, they simply asked me the question needed to fill in their form and told me to see my doctor." He now wants the medical costs and loss of earnings compensated by the medical insurance covering the trial.

Axel Sch. has participated in medical trials even when he was a student. He had also had good experiences with an LMU flu-vaccine study. "This is the reason why I immediately consented when they asked me if I would test the new vaccine."

Now his trust in research is gone, he is quitting the vaccine trial. In October he will fly to Latin America for professional reasons. He had looked forward to traveling unconcerned – by then he would have received the second of three vaccinations. "I’m not fearful just the same – I don’t belong to an at risk group. Also, the swine flu can’t possibly be as bad as the side-effects of the vaccine."

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can anyone find his name Wolfgang Wodarg...in Newsweek article?
 
 

Swine Flu: 11 Things You Need to Know | Newsweek Health | Newsweek.com

Trials for the H1N1 vaccine were announced in late July and should wind up around .... Now, German lung specialist Wolfgang Wodarg, chairman of the health ...
www.newsweek.com/id/214847/page/2 - Cached - Similar
 
 
 
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Part One

The H1N1 Vaccine Is A Much Greater
Risk To Your Health Than The Flu Itself

Despite any consequences, there's always a tremendous push by government and medical establishments to blindly vaccinate the public in the face of any outbreak of flu or disease. There is also the admission (from these same establishments) that every vaccine carries its own element of health risks. So if the intention is to protect public health by vaccinating, why is there never any intervention or policy on how to protect people from the vaccines themselves?

The U.S. has already purchased at least 312 million doses of two proprietary, patented adjuvants: MF59 from Novartis and ASO3 from GlaxoSmithKline (GSK). These purchases took place despite the fact that neither chemical has been FDA approved for use in a vaccine. The manufacturers have not yet even obtained FDA approval for Phase I clinical trials in the U.S., the first step toward approval of any new drug, vaccine or adjuvant.

On average, in both Canada and the U.S., it takes a little over a decade for a drug to move from preclinical development to the marketplace. Before a vaccine enters human testing, the developer conducts laboratory (in vitro) and laboratory animal (in vivo) testing to determine whether the product will be safe enough for researchers to proceed to clinical trials.

It appears that both the U.S. and Canada are prepared to skip all of the normally required safety and efficacy procedures and allow for the massive testing of this novel adjuvant on thousands of paid clinical trial participants in tests of the new H1N1 vaccine. This is despite documented government warnings that adjuvanted vaccines can induce more pronounced side effects than ordinary vaccines, a definite downside because vaccines, unlike most other pharmaceuticals, are given to healthy people.

There has been no confirmation, but many vaccine experts have speculated that the H1N1 flu vaccine ingredients will be very similar if not identical to the H5N1 flu vaccine which was also developed by GlaxoSmithKline. The biological index of that vaccine includes chicken embryos, formaldehyde, squalene adjuvant, thiomersal (mercury derivative), polysorbate 80 (preservative) and aluminum adjuvant among others listed on the Biotechnology Information Institute website.

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Part Two

* A full list of h1n1 vaccine ingredients, alerts and warnings.

* Are populations being primed for nano-microchips inside vaccines?

The Effects of Squalene Adjuvant

Oil-based vaccination adjuvants like squalene have been proved to generate concentrated, unremitting immune responses over long periods of time according to a 2000 article in The American Journal of Pathology. The study demonstrated that a single injection of the adjuvant squalene into rats triggered a chronic, immune-mediated joint-specific inflammation, also known as rheumatoid arthritis. The researchers concluded the study raised questions about the role of adjuvants in chronic inflammatory diseases.

Your immune system recognizes squalene as an oil molecule native to your body. It is found throughout your nervous system and brain. In fact, you can consume squalene in olive oil and not only will your immune system recognize it, you will also reap the benefits of its antioxidant properties.

The difference between "good" and a "bad" squalene is the route by which it enters your body. Injection is an abnormal route of entry which incites your immune system to attack all the squalene in your body, not just the vaccine adjuvant.

Your immune system will attempt to destroy the molecule wherever it finds it, including in places where it occurs naturally, and where it is vital to the health of your nervous system, according to award-winning investigative journalist Gary Matsumoto, who explains there is a "close match between the squalene-induced diseases in animals and those observed in humans injected with this oil: rheumatoid arthritis, multiple sclerosis and systemic lupus erythematosus."

"There are now data in more than two dozen peer-reviewed scientific papers, from ten different laboratories in the US, Europe, Asia and Australia, documenting that squalene-based adjuvants can induce autoimmune diseases in animals, observed in mice, rats, guinea pigs and rabbits. Sweden's Karolinska Institute has demonstrated that squalene alone can induce the animal version of rheumatoid arthritis. The Polish Academy of Sciences has shown that in animals, squalene alone can produce catastrophic injury to the nervous system and the brain. The University of Florida Medical School has shown that in animals, squalene alone can induce production of antibodies specifically associated with systemic lupus erythematosus" writes Matsumoto.

Gulf War veterans with Gulf War Syndrome (GWS) received anthrax vaccines which contained squalene. MF59 (the Novartis squalene adjuvant) was an unapproved ingredient in experimental anthrax vaccines and has since been linked to the devastating autoimmune diseases suffered by countless Gulf War vets according to data published in the February 2000 and August 2002 issues of Experimental and Molecular Pathology.

The Washington Post also confirmed last week that the H1N1 flu vaccine will contain mercury, a toxin linked with autism and neurological disorders. Epidemiologist Tom Verstraeten and Dr. Richard Johnston, an immunologist and pediatrician from the University of Colorado, both concluded that thimerosal was responsible for the dramatic rise in cases of autism but their findings were dismissed by the CDC.

Vaccines Just Don't Work And Never Have

The CDC estimates that only 10% of serious adverse reactions to vaccines are actually reported. Other government agencies state the actual figure is less than 1% since many Physicians have been trained not to report them.

International studies show vaccines cause up to thousands of SIDS (Sudden Infant Death Syndrome) deaths annually, many more are never reported.

Vaccinations cause high numbers of severe reactions, permanent disabilities, and deaths as well as an enormous personal and public cost. Virtually none of this gets reported.

As reported in a 2004 publication of the Archives of Disease in Childhood, a study of 800 children with asthma concluded those receiving a flu vaccine had a significantly increased risk of asthma-related doctor and emergency room visits.

A more recent study released at the 2009 American Thoracic Society International Conference showed children with asthma who received FluMist had a 3-fold increased risk for hospitalization.

Medical literature documents significant numbers of vaccine failures for measles, mumps, small pox, pertussis, polio and Hib-causing bacterial meningitis and pneumonia. In 1989, Oman experienced a widespread polio outbreak six months after completing a population-wide immunization program. In Kansas (in 1986), 90% of 1300 reported pertussis cases were “adequately vaccinated,” and 72% of Chicago pertussis incidents in 1993 had been as well.

From 1850 – 1940, well before mandatory vaccination programs, the British Association for the Advancement of Science reported a 90% decrease in childhood diseases due to improved sanitation and hygiene practices. By 1945, US medical authorities noted a 95% drop in deaths from the leading childhood infectious diseases (diphtheria, pertussis, scarlet fever and measles), well before mass-immunizations began.

A recent WHO report found that third world disease and mortality rates had no direct correlation with immunization programs, but closely relate to hygiene and diet standards.

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Documented long-term health problems include arthritis, chronic headaches, rashes indicative of disease, non-healing skin lesions, seizures, autism, anemia, multiple sclerosis, ALS, cancer, and many others. Ingredients common to all vaccines are at issue. Squalene adjuvants are a biological time bomb that can harm or destroy the human immune system.

Dr. Bart Classen's epidemiological research found vaccines as the cause of 79% of insulin type I diabetes cases in children under 10. The sharp rise in numerous other diseases may also be linked with mass-immunizations. California's autism rate skyrocketed 1000% in the last 20 years. In the 1990s, MMR vaccine usage in Britain (for measles, mumps and rubella) occurred at the same time autism rose sharply. The January 2000 Journal of Adverse Drug Reactions reported that no adequate testing was done, so the vaccine never should have been licensed.

Vaccination history shows documented instances of deceit portraying vaccines as mighty disease conquerors, when in fact vaccines have had little or no discernible impact or have even delayed or reversed pre-existing disease declines. Conflicts of interest are the norm in the vaccine industry. Government agencies like the FDA and CDC are stacked with corporate officials who return to high-paying industry jobs provided they place profit considerations over public health and safety.

Health Canada fired Dr. Shiv Chopra, a vaccine and drug regulator, for blowing the whistle on the ineffectiveness and harm of vaccines. Chopra points out that vaccination did successfully eradicate smallpox and observes that all the other childhood diseases have been unsuccessfully fought with vaccination campaigns involving millions of children every year. Worst of all, these diseases are appearing with increasing frequency in the very populations that have been vaccinated for several generations. Clearly, something is wrong with these programs, the vaccines themselves, and he finds it alarming that “the list of vaccines being administered to young children has been enlarged to include many more viral and bacterial infections with little or no scientific rationale.”

Protecting Children From The Vaccine

Many international governments have already stated that children will likely to be among the first groups to get the H1N1 flu shot during the vaccination campaign's this fall.

The National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC) is asking whether the United States is prepared to obey vaccine safety provisions in the 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act, which include: 1. Giving parents written information about vaccine benefits and risks before children are vaccinated; 2. Keeping a record of which vaccines the children get, including the manufacturer's name and lot number; 3. Recording which vaccines were given in the child's medical record; and 4. Recording serious health problems that develop after vaccination in the child's medical record and immediately making a report to the federal Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System.

NVIC also wants to know if the states are prepared to provide financial compensation to children injured by the swine flu vaccines, whether parents will be given complete, truthful information about swine flu vaccine risks, and have the right to say NO to vaccination.

Co-founder and president of NVIC Barbara Loe Fisher said "Parents and legislators should be asking themselves right now: Why are children the first to get experimental swine flu vaccines? Are schools equipped to get signed informed consent from parents before vaccination, keep accurate vaccination records and screen out children biologically at high risk for suffering vaccine reactions? Will people giving these vaccines know how to monitor children afterwards and immediately record, report and treat serious health problems that develop? And will states have the financial resources to compensate children who are injured?"

"Citizens around the world can be easily manipulated by doctors and politicians engaging in fear mongering in the name of disease controls to forward agendas that have more to do with ideology, power and corporate profits than health" Fisher stated.

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Protecting Yourself

There are simple steps to protect yourself from any flu. These include precautionary hygiene measures and immune boosters.

1. Wash your hands often. Most germs are spread from touching things that are infected then touching our eyes and mouths.
2. Sanitize your hands often with warm water and a healthy natural soap.
3. If you work in an office or school disinfect the desks, phones, seats, door knobs, and everything else that a lot of people touch.with a natural sanitizer (i.e. vinegar, lemon), as long as other workers don't mind that is.
4. Stay out of crowded situations if possible such as malls, restaurants, subways, trains or any congested area during flu peaks.
5. Do not cough with your mouth open, use a Kleenex to cover your mouth when you cough then immediately wash your hands.
6. Use herbs like echinaea, olive leaf, elderberries, astragalus, ginseng
7. Use daily vitamins A,C and E (from reputable sources) and minerals such as zinc, selenium.
8. Use probiotics daily as well as glutamine, garlic, and the phytoalexin reservatrol.
9. Hydrate, get plenty of sleep, exercise and spend as much time outdoors as possible to optimize vitamin D levels from the sun.
10. Check out our aging and immunity page.

* Additional Resources for Protecting Yourself:
- Natural Protection from H1N1
- Solutions To Help Those Forced To Take The H1N1 Vaccines


How They Manipulate The Data

There is ample evidence, documented in numerous reports, that the WHO's level 6 pandemic alert is based on fabricated evidence and a manipulation of the figures on mortality and morbidity resulting from the H1N1 swine flu.

The data initially used to justify the WHO's Worldwide level 5 alert in April 2009 was extremely scanty. The WHO asserted without evidence that a "global outbreak of the disease is imminent". It distorted Mexico's mortality data pertaining to the swine flu pandemic. According to the WHO Director General Dr. Margaret Chan in her official April 29 statement: "So far, 176 people have been killed in Mexico". From what? Where does she get these numbers? 159 died from influenza out of which only seven deaths, corroborated by lab analysis, resulted from the H1N1 swine flu strain, according to the Mexican Ministry of Health. 

Similarly in New York city in April, several hundred children were categorized as having the H1N1 influenza, yet in none of these cases, was the diagnosis corroborated on a laboratory test. 

Influenza is a common disease. Unless there is a thorough lab examination, the identity if the virus cannot be established. 

There are numerous cases of seasonal influenza across America, on an annual basis. "According to the Canadian Medical Association Journal, the flu kills up to 2,500 Canadians and about 36,000 Americans annually. Worldwide, the number of deaths attributed to the flu each year is between 250,000 and 500,000" (Thomas Walkom, The Toronto Star, May 1, 2009). 

What the CDCP and the WHO are doing is routinely re-categorizing a large number of cases of common influenza as H1N1 swine flu.  The WHO stated in a briefing note that the "...increasing number of cases in many countries with sustained community transmission is making it extremely difficult, if not impossible, for countries to try and confirm them through laboratory testing. Moreover, the counting of individual cases is now no longer essential in such countries for monitoring either the level or nature of the risk posed by the pandemic virus or to guide implementation of the most appropriate response measures. "

The WHO has admitted that:

1) they will not collect data on the spread of H1N1 based on systematic lab confirmation.

2) they will discourage national health officials to conduct detection and laboratory confirmation, while also pressuring the countries' public health authorities to duly deliver to the WHO on a weekly basis the data on H1N1 cases.

3) they will only refer to "confirmed cases". They do not distinguish between confirmed and non-confirmed case. It would appear that the "non-confirmed" cases are categorized as confirmed cases and the numbers are then used by the WHO to prove that the disease is spreading. (See WHO tables: http://www.who.int/csr/don/2009_07_06/en/index.html)

The swine flu has the same symptoms as seasonal influenza: fever, cough and sore throat. What is happening is that the widespread incidence of the common flu is being used to generate the reports delivered to the WHO pertaining to the H1N1 swine flu.  Nonetheless, in the tabulated release of country level data, the WHO uses the term: "number of laboratory-confirmed cases", while also admitting that the cases are, in many cases, not confirmed. 

Biological Weapons


All vaccines (literally 100%) are biological weapons. They have never been designed or intended to prevent disease. They are the true weapons of mass destruction.

Dr. Viera Scheibner is internationally known as perhaps the leading expert on adverse vaccine reactions. Her analysis concluded that there is no evidence whatsoever of the ability of vaccines to prevent any diseases. To the contrary, there is a great wealth of evidence that they cause serious side effects.

Nonetheless, immunization programs proliferate because the profit potential is enormous despite growing numbers of reputable scientific figures citing concerns. Moreover, vaccines serve as an excellent platform to destroy human health and global populations.

New delivery systems are also being developed that include nasal sprays, mosquitoes, and genetically engineered fruits containing vaccine viruses. With every country in the world a potential buyer, health and safety considerations are suppressed for the sake of profits. Unless somehow this madness is stopped, the harm to our children and society will be catastrophic.

You make the choice!

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can anyone find his name Wolfgang Wodarg...in Newsweek article?
 
 

Swine Flu: 11 Things You Need to Know | Newsweek Health | Newsweek.com

Trials for the H1N1 vaccine were announced in late July and should wind up around .... Now, German lung specialist Wolfgang Wodarg, chairman of the health ...
www.newsweek.com/id/214847/page/2 - Cached - Similar

Thank you Mary. Diggin' in. This is going to get down to information from mainstream and scientists versus peoples opinions .

I found the same link... http://www.newsweek.com/id/214847/page/2

Now, German lung specialist Wolfgang Wodarg, chairman of the health committee in the German parliament and European Council, warns of an even worse potential health risk of the vaccine.
Dr. Wodarg reports that the swine flu vaccine contains animal cancer cells, and there???s no data indicating whether or not this may cause an allergic reaction when injected.

comment: as we begin to present not only current concerns- as the vaccine is given we are going to hit a brick wall with a lot of glowing spin articles versus the scientists and actually events about to transpire. This is two weeks will be very much a war of opinions versus science. Science will win.

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The truth beyond the Drug Company spin

less than 1% to 10% of vaccine are ever reported... hear the truth.

The Video - must see
countering the under reporting of vaccine injuries and deaths.
incomplete report filed.

http://www.nvic.org/NVIC-Vaccine-News/August-2009/Gardasil-Swine-Flu-Vaccines-Inconvenient-Truths.aspx

girls passing out- losing consciousness within hours - fallen to floor with fractures..
several died in car accidents hours later - from passing

greater than expected rate of blood clots- four have died of clots in brain and heart

89% of the health reports of bad reactions -convulsions were incomplete and useless.

The summer of 2009 revealed two inconvenient truths about vaccination: first, the Gardasil vaccine is not as safe for girls as the government, medical organizations and Merck have said it is; 1 and second, the H1N1 influenza pandemic is not as serious as health officials are telling us it is. 2 3 Which means that fast tracked swine flu vaccines children will get in schools this fall may end up being more risky than getting the flu. 4
 
Doctors Question Benefits & Merck Marketing Tactics

       On August 19, the Journal of the American Medical Association published two important articles written by doctors questioning whether HPV vaccine benefits outweigh the risks of recommending it for all young girls. The intellectually honest doctors publicly criticized the aggressive marketing of Gardasil vaccine by Merck and certain Merck-funded U.S. medical organizations 5 and asked for more scientific evidence that universal HPV vaccination is necessary, safe and effective. 6
 
Bad Outcome Report After 1 In Every 1,855 Gardasil Shots

       In the third article, written by government health officials, it was revealed that 1 in every 1,855 Gardasil shots is followed by a bad health outcome report to the government’s Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System.
 
       These bad health outcomes reported after Gardasil shots include lots of girls suddenly passing out and having seizures within minutes or hours of getting vaccinated and suffering head injuries and broken bones when they hit the floor. In fact, there is a larger than expected rate of girls passing out after getting Gardasil vaccine.
 
Girls Passing Out & Having Car Accidents
 
       Back in 2007, the National Vaccine Information Center warned that many girls given Gardasil shots were losing consciousness within minutes or hours. 7 8 9 Some girls have left doctors offices and fallen unconscious while driving and had car accidents. 10 This brings up the little known fact that four girls who got Gardasil in Merck’s pre-licensure clinical trials died in car accidents. 11 How many of those girls suddenly collapsed while driving?
 
     Clearly, Gardasil vaccine should be given while girls are lying down and they should be warned that sudden collapse can occur without warning within 24 hours of getting vaccinated.
 
Blood Clots Reports After Gardasil
 
      What else did the recently published government study on Gardasil reveal? Well, we now know that there is a greater than expected rate of reported blood clots in girls who get the vaccine. Some blood clots can lead to pulmonary embolism or stroke, which means the blood clot ends up in the lung or in the brain. In fact four girls have died after they developed a blood clot that traveled to the lung after Gardasil vaccination.

Most Bad Outcome Reports Merck Files FDA Can’t Analyze
    
  But the most shocking fact in this study is that, although nearly 70 percent of all Gardasil reaction reports were filed by Merck, a whopping 89 percent of the reports Merck did file were so incomplete there was not enough information for health officials to do a proper follow-up and review of what happened to the girls who fell unconscious or had convulsions, developed blood clots or inflammation of the brain and nerves, including Guillain Barre syndrome that causes paralysis, or those who suddenly developed serious autoimmune disorders like rheumatoid arthritis, lupus and more.
 
      There were 32 reports of Gardasil-related deaths between 2006 and the end of 2008 but only 20 of these death reports had enough information to be followed up. There are now a total of 43 deaths that have been reported. 12 How many of those Gardasil related deaths cannot be evaluated because of incomplete information?

1986 Law Requires Reporting of Vaccine Injuries & Deaths
 
       This is an outrage. Under the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986, 13 it is a federal legal requirement for any person – a doctor, nurse or any person who gives a vaccination in America – to file a report with the federal government whenever a vaccination is followed by a bad health outcome, especially a hospitalization, injury or death. Vaccine providers are NOT supposed to be notifying the vaccine manufacturer – which clearly is like flushing the vaccine reaction report down the toilet – they are supposed to be notifying the government. And health officials at the FDA and CDC are supposed to be analyzing each and every report of a serious vaccine injury or death.
 
Massive Underreporting of Vaccine Bad Outcomes
 
        FDA and CDC officials admit that there is underreporting of vaccine-related bad health outcomes. In fact, some studies say that less than 10 percent or even less than 1 percent of serious vaccine adverse events are ever reported. 14 15

Closed Government Databases Used to Deny Vaccine Risks
 
    But health officials are quick to downplay the significance of this. They tell us not to worry because the closed government databases, which the CDC operates with vaccine manufacturers and HMO’s they pay to participate in them, can be relied upon to reassure us that all those seizures and blood clots and cases of brain inflammation, paralysis, lupus and deaths in girls who get Gardasil shots are really – mostly - just a coincidence.
 
        In 2005, the National Vaccine Information Center and other parent groups called on the CDC and FDA to open up those closed government vaccine monitoring databases to public scrutiny. 16 17 So far, most of that vaccine reaction data is still hidden from public view so it can’t be independently verified.
 
Will H1N1 Swine Flu Vaccine Risks Be Hidden From Public?

       If the government can let vaccine manufacturers fast track Gardasil vaccine 18 but can’t compel the drug company that makes the vaccine or doctors giving the vaccine - who are shielded from liability 19 - to report each and every death and serious injury that follows vaccination, why should we believe anything government health officials tell us about the safety of vaccines?
        Why should we believe that the experimental swine flu vaccines being fast tracked with only a few weeks of study in healthy children and adults 20 are going to be safe and that all vaccine reactions will be reported to the government and then properly followed up? 21

No Way To Monitor H1N1 Swine Flu Vaccine Side Effects In Schools
 
   It is far more likely that, when children get swine flu vaccine in schools and then get really sick or even die like the Gardasil girls, that all those bad health outcomes will be written off as a coincidence by health officials. That is, IF any reports are made to the government at all! Because few school nurses or other people giving children swine flu vaccines in the schools will be taking medical histories; or have a way to record vaccine information in children’s medical records, much less monitor children for signs of a vaccine reaction and then file a reaction report to the government.
 
        This is not the way to run a national vaccine program. This is not what we expect from doctors in positions of authority who have accepted responsibility for protecting our individual health or the health of our nation.

Doctors & Drug Companies Shielded From Liability Ignoring the Law
 
           In the early 1980’s, parents of DPT vaccine injured children worked very hard on getting informing, recording and reporting safety provisions of the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986. We wanted to make sure everything was being done to help prevent vaccine injuries and deaths. Little did we know then that those safety provisions would be blown off by doctors and vaccine manufacturers shielded from liability in that law. 22
 
    The federal vaccine safety provisions should be codified into every state vaccine law with legal sanctions for doctors and drug companies who fail to file a complete vaccine reaction report.

What Public Health Emergency?
 
      And now, today, we have swine flu vaccines that are being rushed to market 23 with even less testing that the fast tracked Gardasil vaccine had, with the justification that there is a public health emergency. 24 25 26 What public health emergency?
 
   As everyone knows by now, the swine flu is no more serious than the garden variety influenza that goes around every year. 27Just like everyone knows by now that most cervical cancer can be prevented with regular Pap screening and that the very expensive HPV vaccine is questionable at best. 28
 
        Why are we letting employees working for government agencies and pharmaceutical companies stampede us into taking vaccines that may not be necessary, safe or effective and – certainly - are not properly monitored for safety after they are given to tens of millions of children and adults?
 
     It is time to demand that government officials and drug companies stop conducting national vaccine experiments on the American people.

Come To Fourth International Public Conference on Vaccination

        If you want to learn more about vaccines and how to be a vaccine safety and informed consent advocate in your community, come to the Fourth International Public Conference on Vaccination being held October 2-4, 2009 in Washington, D.C. For more information, go to www.NVIC.org.
 
 


1 Slade BA, Leidel L, Vellozzi C, Woo EJ et al. Postlicensure Safety Surveillance for Quadrivalent Human Papillomavirus Recombinant Vaccine. JAMA, August 19, 2009; Vol. 302, No.7: pp.750-757. 
 
2 Morens DM, Taubenberger JK. Understanding Influenza Backwards. JAMA, August 12, 2009; Vol. 302, No. 6: pp.679-680.
 
3 Collignon P. Take a deep breath – Swine flu is not that bad. AENJ, June 1, 2009; Vol. 12, No. 3: pp. 71-72.
 
4 Macfarlane J. Swine flu jab link to killer nerve disease: Leaked letter reveals concern of neurologists over 25 deaths in America. Daily Mail (UK), August 15, 2009.
 
5 Rothman SM, Rothman DJ. Marketing HPV Vaccine: Implications for Adolescent Health and Medical Professionalism. JAMA, August 19, 2009; Vol. 302, No. 7: pp.781-786. 
 
6 Haug C. The Risks and Benefits of HPV Vaccination. JAMA, August19, 2009; Vol. 302, No. 7: pp. 795-796. 
 
7 Debold V, Fisher BL. HPV Vaccine Safety Analysis of VAERS Reports: Adverse Reactions, Concerns & Implications. NVIC, February 1, 2009 and additional reference
 
8 Debold V, Fisher BL. HPV Vaccine Safety Analysis of VAERS ReportsPart II. NVIC, February 18, 2009 and additional reference
 
9 Debold V, Downey C, Fisher BL. HPV Vaccine Safety Analysis of VAERS Reports – Part III. NVIC, August 15, 2009 and additional reference.
 
1 0 FDA. Information Pertaining to Labeling Revision for Gardasil: 15-Minute Observation Period Needed After Vaccination. June 9, 2009.
 
1 1 Merck & Co., Inc. 2006, 2008. Gardasil Quadrivalent Human Papillomavirus Types 6,11,16,18 Recombinant Vaccine Product Insert
 
1 3 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 (PL99-660) and CDC Fact Sheet For Vaccine Information Statements 
 
1 4 Braun M. Vaccine adverse event reporting system (VAERS): usefulness and limitations. Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.
 
 
1 5 Rosenthanl S, Chen R. The reporting sensitivities of two passive surveillance systems for vaccine adverse events. Am J Public Health 1995; 85: pp. 1706-9. 
 
 
1 6 Fisher BL.Statement on National Immunization Program Procedures & Data Sharing Program. Institute of Medicine. August 23, 2004. 
 
 
1 8 FDA. Vaccines & Related Biological Products Advisory Committee. Background Document: Gardasil HPV Quadrivalent Vaccine. May 18, 2009. 
 
 
1 9 Institute of Medicine. The Children’s Vaccine Initiative: Achieving the Vision. Appendix B: National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program. 1993. 
 
 
2 2 Fisher BL. National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program: A Failed Experiment in Tort Reform? Advisory Commission on Childhood Vaccines. November 18, 2008.
 
 2 3 DeNoon DJ. Swine Flu Vaccine Fast-Tracked to September? WebMD, July 17, 2009.
 2 4 Department of Health & Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sibelius. Determination that a Public Health Emergency Exists. April 26, 2009. And Renewal of a Determination that a Public Health Emergency Exists, July 24, 2009. 
 
 
2 5 CBS News. August 12, 2009. Washington Unplugged: H1N1 Vaccine Dangers with Sharyl Attkisson, Jennifer Ashton, MD and Barbara Loe Fisher.
 
2 6 Stein R. Swine Flu Vaccine Campaign Waits On Vaccine. Washington Post, August 23, 2009. 
 
2 7 Jefferson T. A Whole Industry Is Waiting for a Pandemic. Spiegel Online. July 21, 2009. 
 
2 8 CBS News. August 19, 2009. Gardasil Researcher Speaks Out: “Public Should Receive More Complete Warnings.” 
 
 

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Is there a connection between vaccines and autism in children?

the truth beyond the hype-

Autism - Liam's story  Video

http://www.nvic.org/NVIC-Vaccine-News/August-2009/Gardasil-Swine-Flu-Vaccines-Inconvenient-Truths.aspx

Medclinician - goto that video- you may have to watch this one first.

Other direct line sources with alternate data on vaccine safety

http://www.nvic.org/NVIC-Vaccine-News/September-2009-(1)/New-WITHOUT-CONSENT-Vaccine-Adjuvant-Website.aspx

this is a new website recently launched to counter the oncoming flooding of the net with pro-vaccine

New "WITHOUT CONSENT" Vaccine Adjuvant Website
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New “WITHOUT CONSENT” Website Launched

Gary Matsumoto, an author and Emmy award winning investigative broadcast and print journalist, today launched the new media website WithoutConsent. Focusing on reactive squalene oil adjuvants used in H1N1 “swine flu” vaccines licensed in Europe, which drug companies are pressing the FDA to license in the U.S., Matsumoto’s web-based news outlet will contain original pay-per-download information that doesn’t get printed in the mainstream media.

Inside Information on H1N1 vaccine

“We will cover some of the same stories that you read in the usual outlets but we delve deeper and we read the fine print,” said Matsumoto. “In our inaugural newsletter we have something to tell you about the swine flu vaccination program that you should know. It could help protect you and your family.”

How Do the Numbers Stack Up?

The first newsletter, which contains referenced information from more than a decade of research into squalene adjuvants, Matsumoto includes facts and figures. To make a point, he asks “Did you know there is an illness called “Human Adjuvant Disease?” and “What links the numbers 3, 30, 46,000 and 900,000 to the swine flu vaccination program?”
  • 9 is the number of diseases induced in lab animals by oil adjuvants;
  • 30 is the number of scientific papers published in peer-reviewed journals that show the oil squalene, which is being used in H1N1 swine flu adjuvants, causes crippling diseases in animals inject with it;
  • 46,000 is the approximate number of people enrolled in clinical trials around the world to test influenza vaccines containing squalene
  • 900,000 is the number of Britons injected with a toxic oil advjuvant between 1963 and 1965 before the manufacturer voluntarily withdrew it from the market
What About Informed Consent?

Referring to the clinical trials of oil-adjuvanted H1N1 vaccines being given to healthy people around the world, Matsumoto said “Any health official failing to give this information to a person before vaccination with an adjuvant containing this oil has denied that person the capacity to give true informed consent. “ He added “You can’t make good decisions with bad information.”

Squalene is an Autotoxicant

Gary Matsumoto is the only reporter in the history of the U.S. Army Chemical School to complete a training course to decontaminate the nerve agents, sarin and VX, using the real thing. In 2002, he co-authored a scientific study “Squalene is an Autotoxicant Inducing Polyarthritis in Rats and Immunopathies in Man” with Michael Whitehouse and Frances W.J. Beck. Whitehouse and Beck discovered the toxicity of injected squalene while conducting research at UCLA Medical Center in the 1970s.

Vaccine A

Two years later, Matsumoto published Vaccine A: The Covert Government Experiment That Killing Our Soldiers and Why GI’s Are Only the First Victims, which examined clinical evidence that American and British service members were injured after being injected with squalene-laced vaccines. It remains the only published book exposing the dangers posed by a new generation of experimental vaccines containing oil-based adjuvants.

Investigative Journalism Pro

Over the past 15 years, Gary Matsumoto has conducted investigations for Dateline NBC, NBC Nightly News, ABC World News Tonight, ABC Good Morning America, Fox News Channel, the Washington Post, Vanity Fair, Science magazine and Bloomberg News. He specializes in business, military affairs; and in health and science.

His Bloomberg Television (BTV) investigations into unethical business practices on Wall Street earned twelve awards in business and finance news in 2008-2009. His program “401(k) Hidden Fees” won the 2008 Business Emmy for Outstanding Investigative Reporting of a Business News Story Magazine and Long Form. It was Bloomberg’s first Emmy in any category. Since BTV’s creation in 1994, the network received a total of 5 Emmy nominations; Matsumoto’s work garnered 3 of them. More viewers watched his investigation into manipulative short selling than any other program ever shown on BTV.

Berlin, Tiananmen, Romania & Iraq

Matsumoto’s career gave him a front-row seat to history-in-the-making around the globe. As a London-based foreign correspondent for NBC News, he interviewed European prime ministers, hobnobbed with royalty and rock stars and dodged bullets in Iraq, Romania and the People’s Republic of China -- reporting stories from more than 40 countries on 5 continents.

In all, Matsumoto received nearly two dozen broadcast journalism awards as a National and Foreign Correspondent for NBC News, a Senior Correspondent for the Fox News Channel and Specials Unit reporter and producer for Bloomberg Television. You can still hear his 1989 radio broadcasts from the Berlin Wall and Tiananmen Square at the Paley Center for Media in New York.

Speaking at NVIC’s Public Conference on Vaccination

In an Oct. 3 presentation at the Fourth International Public Conference on Vaccination entitled “Without Consent, What You Don’t Know Can Hurt You,” Gary Matsumoto will be giving an overview of how and why squalene oil adjuvants are so toxic and can cause catastrophic immune dysfunction.

Covering Expenses, Donating to NVIC

WithoutConsent is an experiment in investigative journalism reported on the internet by an award winning journalist who wants to report the news that mainstream media won’t and not give it away for free. “Opinions are cheap.” said Matsumoto. “Real reporting is expensive. Journalism is a business, and so is WithoutConsent. The difference is we aren’t captive to our advertisers. We plege to report the inconvenient truth, provided our revenues can cover our costs.”

A portion of the proceeds from the small pay-per-download fee charged for obtaining information through the WithoutConsent website is being donated by Gary Matsumoto to the National Vaccine Information Center.

Download The First Newsletter

For more information and to download the first newsletter on the toxicity of squalene adjuvants being used in H1N1 “swine flu” vaccines in Europe that may be put in U.S. vaccines in the future, go to www.without-consent.com or click here.

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Vaccines don't cause autism! I know that there are many people who still cling to the idea that their childrens' autism was caused by thimersol in vaccines but this theory has been thoroughly discredited. Conversely, there is great work being done at the Dupont Nemuors Institute in Delaware and other institutions into the GENETIC BASIS of autism, particularly in interruptions, translocations, and duplications of Chromosome 15.
 
Sorry to be sounding so strident but when it comes to understanding autism I have been living with the research for 12 years.
 
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I think there is definately a genetic component to autism.I have neighbors who have two autistic kids and know a woman locally who has three autistic boys.That beats averages.
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Originally posted by LisaP LisaP wrote:

Vaccines don't cause autism! I know that there are many people who still cling to the idea that their childrens' autism was caused by thimersol in vaccines but this theory has been thoroughly discredited. Conversely, there is great work being done at the Dupont Nemuors Institute in Delaware and other institutions into the GENETIC BASIS of autism, particularly in interruptions, translocations, and duplications of Chromosome 15.
 
Sorry to be sounding so strident but when it comes to understanding autism I have been living with the research for 12 years.
 
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Hi Lisa. Certainly do post more on this. This is the first time I have heard this- it was on a site with other material against vaccines. Being into genetics- you are saying they have located a marker or place in human genome that has certain abnormal links as opposed to normal children. Feel free to post a link to the research. We always can learn more - and this is a very important field. Last night on cable they were showing on a graph how autism rates per 10,000 or so have increased. The debate was whether doctors over diagnosing children as per an actual real increase in cases. Some say it has been around a long time and are on the same page with a genetic predisposition or even almost a hardwire.

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Originally posted by Hotair Hotair wrote:

I think there is definately a genetic component to autism.I have neighbors who have two autistic kids and know a woman locally who has three autistic boys.That beats averages.


As time goes on we are going to find a large number of diseases, mental and physical are hereditary.  Hopefully with more medical research we can do gene repair or manipulation and stop (like hemophilia) the transmission of these.   Med
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Hotair and Med,

http://www.idic15.org/c15d_description.php

Here's a very straightforward link which explains disruptions in chromosome 15 and lists some of the known and identified issues caused by a disruption of the gene.

The Human Genome project has resulted in (I think) it is in the area of hundreds of thousands of genes. This is the chromosome I'm most familiar with.

Hotair, I've been in contact with families with chromosome 15 duplication where the duplication was passed from mother to children. The Mom was normal but 2 of the 3 children who inherited the duplication are autistic. You're absolutely correct that multiple instances defy the odds. Ordinarily this chromosomal abnormality isn't inherited but in the case of one known family it was.

There's still much research to be done in the field of genetics, but there's also tremendous interest in this gene. This is the same gene which causes Prader-Willi and Angelman Syndromes, both autism syndromes - Angelman Syndrome comes from a problem in the maternal copy of chromosome 15, Prader-Willi from the paternal copy.




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I am excited about this research,Lisa.My son is autistic and I have tried to have him tested genetically to see if he will have autistic children--of course they can't--yet.He has Asbergers so is high functioning but I can't imagine how horrible it would be to have a severely autistic child for him.
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Originally posted by Hotair Hotair wrote:

I am excited about this research,Lisa.My son is autistic and I have tried to have him tested genetically to see if he will have autistic children--of course they can't--yet.He has Asbergers so is high functioning but I can't imagine how horrible it would be to have a severely autistic child for him.


Hotair, Has your son been tested for the fragile X DNA? I only say this because I own a large Fragile X site. If you search "Fragile X" in google you'll run into my site. You can also search "fragile x autism" with or without the quotes in google you should hit my site at the top listings in google. Lot's of information that might help you. I'm not saying Fragile X is the link as the chances are only 2-6% up to 33% if he also has Fragile X.

Fragile X syndrome is the most common "known" single gene cause of autism. Note the "known" part as many of the causes are unknown.
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I have to agree with Med that this is just MORE proof that the vaccine is worse than the actual illness!!!!!

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"Vaccines don't cause autism! I know that there are many people who still cling to the idea that their childrens' autism was caused by thimersol in vaccines but this theory has been thoroughly discredited."

That's a pretty bold statement LisaP!
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This was a very interesting read!

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Originally posted by Technologist Technologist wrote:

Originally posted by Hotair Hotair wrote:

I am excited about this research,Lisa.My son is autistic and I have tried to have him tested genetically to see if he will have autistic children--of course they can't--yet.He has Asbergers so is high functioning but I can't imagine how horrible it would be to have a severely autistic child for him.


Hotair, Has your son been tested for the fragile X DNA? I only say this because I own a large Fragile X site. If you search "Fragile X" in google you'll run into my site. You can also search "fragile x autism" with or without the quotes in google you should hit my site at the top listings in google. Lot's of information that might help you. I'm not saying Fragile X is the link as the chances are only 2-6% up to 33% if he also has Fragile X.

Fragile X syndrome is the most common "known" single gene cause of autism. Note the "known" part as many of the causes are unknown.


Tech why don't you just post a link to your site? What is your handle on the site so we will know it is your site? Are you, as we, an Era Common certified company and working with NIH? This most certainly would be useful information- since we would be on the same side and maybe avoid bumping heads as much in the future? What exactly is your research area in health?

While this thread is more focused on what will be side effects of the vaccine and the real evaluation as to the need for the vaccine versus the side effects- one thing no one is really arguing about. That is that the vulnerability of pregnant women is greater to the vaccine and the disease.

As a medical researcher please do add your comments, especially concerning the gene sequencing and chromosome information.

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Originally posted by mrmouse mrmouse wrote:

"Vaccines don't cause autism! I know that there are many people who still cling to the idea that their childrens' autism was caused by thimersol in vaccines but this theory has been thoroughly discredited."

That's a pretty bold statement LisaP!
uploads/3816/Vaccines_and_autism.pdf


One of the discussion points in the article was that the emergence of a type of autism appears to occur very near the age when most children receive the vaccine. There is a possibility here of a susceptibility passed on genetically which may be triggered by a component in the vaccine. This would be a consideration.

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Originally posted by mrmouse mrmouse wrote:

This was a very interesting read!

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This was as you said a very interesting read. One of Bluebird's (mommy of my son Skyes) pet research areas has been Thimerisol in Vaccines. Going back to source
http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/SafetyAvailability/VaccineSafety/UCM096228

there is still a debate. Of course presently the most important consideration in this thread is that this is part of the formulation of the Swine Flu vaccine and how it will effect especially our children. Bluebird had specifically queried one Pediatrician as to whether or not a specific vaccine contained this chemical and was told it did not. Later on, after Bluebird recovered part of the packaging (she can be rather precise in her research on things) it was found it did include the compound.

The debate lies here-

Fewer than 5% of children with autistic traits have fragile X or another known chromosomal abnormality. Although no cure exists, autism is treatable. Symptoms associated with autism often improve as children start to acquire language and learn how to communicate their needs.

f measles vaccine or any other vaccine causes autism, it would have to be a very rare occurrence, because millions of children have received vaccines without ill health effects. The only "evidence" linking MMR vaccine and autism was published in the British journal Lancet in 1998 [5]. An editorial published in the same issue, however, discussed concerns about the validity of the study [6]. Based on data from 12 patients, Dr. Andrew Wakefield (a British gastroenterologist) and colleagues speculated that MMR vaccine may have been the possible cause of bowel problems which led to a decreased absorption of essential vitamins and nutrients which resulted in developmental disorders like autism. No scientific analyses were reported, however, to substantiate the theory. Whether this series of 12 cases represent an unusual or unique clinical syndrome is difficult to judge without knowing the size of the patient population and time period over which the cases were identified. If there happened to be selective referral of patients with autism to the researchers' practice, for example, the reported case series may simply reflect such referral bias. Moreover, the theory that autism may be caused by poor absorption of nutrients due to bowel inflammation is senseless and is not supported by the clinical data. In at least 4 of the 12 cases, behavioral problems appeared before the onset of symptoms of inflammatory bowel disease. Furthermore, since publication of their original report in February of 1998, Wakefield and colleagues have published another study in which highly specific laboratory assays in patients with inflammatory bowel disease, the posited mechanism for autism after MMR vaccination, were negative for measles virus [7,8].

Other recent investigations also do not support a causal association between MMR (or other measles-containing vaccines) and autism or inflammatory bowel disease (IBD) [9-13]. In one investigation, a Working Party on MMR Vaccine of the United Kingdom's Committee on Safety of Medicines (1999) was charged with the evaluation of several hundred reports, collected by a firm of lawyers, of autism, Crohn's disease, or similar disorders developing after receipt of MMR or MR vaccines. The Working Party conducted a systematic, standardized review of parental and physician information. Although acknowledging that it is impossible to prove or refute the suggested associations (because of variable data quality, biased selection of cases, and lack of a control group), the Working Party concluded that the information available "... did not support the suggested causal associations or give cause for concern about the safety of MMR or MR vaccines." [12] In March 2000, a Medical Research Council report concludes that between March 1998 and September 1999 no new evidence had suggested a causal link between MMR and autism or IBD [13]. The American Medical Association has reached the same conclusion.

comment: so the older research strong runs on there is no link. However a more specific approach, can mercury be related to autism?

I have a direct link into here.. reg for free and read if you wish.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/3/22/u-s-government-concedes-that-mercury-causes-autism.aspx

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Mr. Mouse,

I think it's a bold statement to suggest that vaccines do cause autism - though I'll now go read our links. There's so much research which establishes the genetic causes of autism in some identified genes, and so many millions of genes that aren't identified. In chromosome 15 disruptions, for example, the karotype is so broad and ranges from completely normal to profoundly impaired. There's still much to be learned about autism but I'm not aware of any reputable scientific studies that support the claim that vaccines cause autism. Also, since autism is in, in many ways, an interference with an individual's ability to communicate and perceive others, the symptoms of it don't become recognizable until a person reaches an age where they exhibit developmental delay - often around the same time when we start to vaccinate kids.

Frankly Mr. Mouse - it would be a whole lot easier if we could just point to vaccines and say that they are the cause of autism . . .


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Tech and Hotair - this is one of those times when I really wish that this forum had private messaging capability because it would be helpful to be able to exchange information in private.

Hotair -  I would urge you to keep trying to get genetic testing for your child. Let me know if I can help
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Just finished looking at the article by Dr. Blaylock and without belaboring the point, I'm not persuaded. For example, he correctly mentions that there is a high incidence of seizures in children with autism but he completely neglects to mention that this has been linked to a disruption of the GABA receptors in the brain resulting from SNRPN disruptions in Chromosome 15.

My impression from reading his article is that this is a review (critique) of the research of others and he has strong opinions on that, not that he is conducting research on his own. That's fine of course, but I don't think he is a primary source. Just my two cents though.
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Thank-you tech, Lisa and Med.I will continue trying.Kaiser said that in 3 years, they should have the capability to genetically test for more diseases/conditions.Not sure where they got that number?
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I got this from Dr. D- and from Dr. John and I don't think Dr. D will mind me putting this up.
You all need to know about this..

I do not usually reply to all,but this time I thought it might prove helpful.
I too have researched the squalene. It was outlawed here in the USA in 2004 because of a causal link to the Gulf War Syndrome. It IS  in the Novartis vaccine that 100 million CHINESE are receiving as we "speak"
The vaccines here do have some peculiarities. THe flumist has procine gelatin ( pig ). The fluzone for the infants has TritonX which is not to be taken internally and should be washed off the skin immediately if you come into contact with it,but it is be injected into our infants. AND THAT one is the REGULAR flu injection as well. Formaldehyde and thimerosal are used in the others.
Sanofi Pasteur has three vaccines getting ready for clinical trials. They want to use the squalene in these.
I have been an advocate of vaccines since my medical residency in the late 70s early 80s. I had been a real pro  vaccine advocate. I can not in good conscience say that anymore........

Dr. D. is a pediatrician M.D. who is working with me on my book.

We all have a lot of inside communication with dozens of doctors- but this snipette was pretty interesting.

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Tech - I hope it's okay but I'm just addressing this to you since you mentioned fragile X - I think that Dr. Carolyn Schanen is also working on fragile x - here's just a quhttp://hmg.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/15/suppl_2/R138ick article link

I found a Fragile X site run by parents featuring two families both little boys - beautiful children. Reminds me so much of the spectrum of problems with Chromosome 15 - hypotonia, speech delay, educational issues, etc., etc. If you and your organization aren't familiar with Dr. Schanen you should check her out. I've met her in person and she is really wonderful - she refers to all of the children she is studying as if they're her own kids .

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Originally posted by LisaP LisaP wrote:

Tech - I hope it's okay but I'm just addressing this to you since you mentioned fragile X - I think that Dr. Carolyn Schanen is also working on fragile x - here's just a quhttp://hmg.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/15/suppl_2/R138ick article link

I found a Fragile X site run by parents featuring two families both little boys - beautiful children. Reminds me so much of the spectrum of problems with Chromosome 15 - hypotonia, speech delay, educational issues, etc., etc. If you and your organization aren't familiar with Dr. Schanen you should check her out. I've met her in person and she is really wonderful - she refers to all of the children she is studying as if they're her own kids .

Best,

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Thanks Lisa, this is very informative stuff and I would like to know a lot more about it. Will definitely try to hook up some and talk to people. Some time ago we went to a workshop with several hundred kids with various handicaps and learning or other problems.

Honestly, they really are our kids in the sense- we need to address many genetic and other issues with children in research. Over the years I have been impressed at the progress made in many fields where people would just give children palliative comfort care-versus any kind of real effort to help.

Seen some amazing things with speech therapy and also group therapy and teaching those who had real issues interacting and were so severally isolated unable to express affection or interaction with other children and adults.

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