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    Posted: November 19 2009 at 1:45am
 
Homeland Security health official, in St. Louis, talks about shortfalls of swine flu vaccine
 
11/19/2009
              Health officials have long planned for a severe bird flu outbreak, but another virus flew in first.

Swine flu (H1N1 virus) has already sickened an estimated 22 million Americans since April, closing schools and straining emergency rooms nationwide.

The H1N1 virus has proven to be less deadly but more contagious than bird flu.

The government's plan for distributing H1N1 vaccines has been delayed, creating a scenario where most people could get sick before they can get a shot.
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"Vaccine production wasn't really what we would like it to be," said Dr. Alexander Garza, chief medical officer of the U.S.

Department of Homeland Security, in a visit Wednesday to his hometown of st. Louis
Federal health officials originally predicted that 160 million doses of H1N1 vaccine would be available by the end of October. To date, 40 million doses have been doled out to states, including 1.7 million to Illinois and 583,700 to Missouri.

Garza came to St. Louis to give a talk at Washington University on the government's H1N1 preparations. On Tuesday, Garza and other health officials testified about the vaccine shortage in a hearing of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee.

Sen. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut, committee chairman, was quoted in a Senate news release, saying that vaccine shortages have led to frustration and anger.

"With so many eligible Americans still unable to get the vaccine, a good situation has turned bad," Lieberman said at the hearing. "I worry that we are undermining confidence, generally, in the public health system, and that people most at risk are not only not getting the vaccine but have stopped trying."

Health officials explained that the virus has grown slower than expected in labs, leading to the delays.

The government's original predictions had not accounted for the slow-growing virus.

"Whether we meant to or not, I think we led expectations of availability to be higher than they have been. And so that, I think, can lead to frustration," Dr. Anne Schu****** of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention told the committee.

Part of the problem has been confusion over the high-risk groups targeted by the CDC to receive vaccines first. Initial priority lists included pregnant women, health care workers, anyone 6 months to 24 years old, anyone 25 to 64 years old with a chronic medical condition and caretakers of infants.

When vaccine supplies were lower than anticipated, adults with health problems and healthy children were taken off the highest-priority list.

Local health departments were given control over distributing the vaccines, leading to discrepancies.

Children in Hazelwood and other St. Louis County school districts received vaccines six weeks before kids in St. Louis city schools started getting them.

Earlier this month, the St. Louis County health department held H1N1 vaccine clinics using the tighter restrictions and only administered 5,446 of 10,000 available doses. For its next clinics set for Dec. 5, the department says they'll open up the clinics to anyone on the longer priority list.

Garza said federal officials decided to give some flexibility to local governments since every community's needs are different, but he acknowledged the challenges in getting enough vaccines to the right people.

"It's a tricky balance. You don't want to be overbearing as federal agents," Garza said. "You have to remember this is really an unprecedented vaccine campaign."

The H1N1 pandemic has been Garza's first test since taking the federal position in August. His office, created after the Sept. 11 attacks, prepares for public health threats ranging from disease epidemics to biological weapons and environmental hazards.

Garza, who grew up in Maryland Heights and attended St. Louis University, is also charged with helping maintain the country's infrastructure during a pandemic. That includes watching over the border patrol officers, the U.S. Coast Guard and immigration agents.

"If we have a health threat, these people have to be protected," Garza said.

Flu pandemics are by nature unpredictable, Garza said. Unlike a tornado or hurricane that has a beginning and an end, flu outbreaks can last years and infect millions of people across the country.

"We can't really model when a new influenza bug is going to pop up," Garza said. "With flu you don't know the ebb and flow of the disease."

Government plans for the highly dangerous bird flu, for example, included decisions about closing borders and halting trade. The H1N1 swine flu is a more moderate virus, comparable to a seasonal flu but targeting a younger population.

The CDC estimates that since April, 98,000 people have been hospitalized with H1N1 and 3,900 people have died, including 540 children. Each year, the seasonal flu kills about 36,000 Americans including 50 to 100 children.
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Hello Pebs. The case of delivery of the vaccine to the American people in a timely manner has been a broken promise. It is an understandable broken promise because you cannot develop and test an effective and safe vaccine in less than 6-18 months.

Any vaccine which is safe and tested will be too late to help in the current second wave which is already widespread in the United States.

There are no viable excuses which are appropriate since we have known in inner government about this virus since Veracruz in March of 2009.

Vaccine companies such as Baxter took orders and money for 60,000,000 doses and have not fulfilled their contracts and shipped all of what they promised. Nor has Baxter vaccine production proved safe or reliable after live virus were found contaminating their materials and shipped vaccined to surrounding countries proved lethal when injected in ferrets when countries got uneasy about mass vaccinating people with an relatively untested product.

However urgent - and at this point the death rate from Swine Flu is not urgent- this does not hold up water in terms of mandatory vaccine for health workers with a vaccine that has not even been proven to be effective.

It has been determined to be more effective with the use of poisonous adjuvants. Yet these same additives can cause more deaths than the disease.

http://herenb.canadaeast.com/opinion/article/861981

th sides in adjuvant debate admit uncertainty about meaning of adjuvant

OTTAWA "" The ongoing national debate over the use of adjuvant in the H1N1 vaccine took another twist yesterday, with both sides admitting they weren't entirely sure what an adjuvant is.

"I just thought it was important for pregnant women to be careful," said Heather Christie, who has been arguing that all vaccine doses nationwide should be adjuvant-free. "The adjuvant, whatever that is, egg protein or something, could give you the flu, right?"

This revelation of ignorance would have been an embarrassing blow for the con side in the H1N1 debate, but the pro side admitted shortly afterward that they had similar levels of confusion.

"Clearly, the flu shot needs to be taken by anyone who cares about their well-being," said Dr. John May. "The adjuvant helps strengthen the vaccine, I think, and gets it to more people, maybe, or something."

Health Canada said it would attempt to clear up any further confusion with an ad campaign entitled "Adjuvantageous!"

Child's death slammed as government propaganda

CLEARWATER, B.C. "" The death a four-year-old boy in this small town is being slammed as another example of the government and pharmaceutical companies keeping Canadians scared so that the flu vaccine can be pushed upon them.

The sudden death of Sam "Sammy" Curtis, who liked to watch the fish in his parents' fish tank and to ride his Big Wheel, is "being lorded over us by people who want us to buy their medication and keep Canadians under their thumb," said Wendy Primeau, one of many Canadians who is convinced the H1N1 virus is a myth designed to profit drug companies.

"The 192 people killed by the swine flu should be ashamed of themselves," she said. "They are playing directly into the hands of the big pharmaceuticals."

While Primeau conceded that the deaths from a disease there is a vaccine for is tragic, she noted that all of the victims would have died eventually anyway.

Swine flu clinics checking lineups for yearly income, athletic ability

TORONTO "" With concern mounting about who should get their flu shots and in what order, Health Canada officials have warned those attempting to jump the line that first priority will be given to those making more than $100,000 a year, especially professional athletes.

"We ask NHL players to bring their NHLPA memberships to the clinics, just in case they are asked by nurses checking the lines," said Dr. Robert Dunphy.

For the next few weeks clinics will only be taking high-importance patients, such as CEOs, students in private schools, and close friends of doctors.

People wearing jogging pants will be turned away immediately, Dunphy said.

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            Well my friend all I can say is every member of my family and there are a lot of us have had the h1n1 and seasonal shots this year,  nobody had any kind of reaction what so ever to the vaccines, some had shots some had the mist . In my opinion and thats all it is , I was a bit afraid of the shots because of all the hype  until I contacted the H1N1 myself. 4 members of my family contacted H1N1.  After having it and surviving I was more afraid of losing a member of my family to the flu, which as  most of you know we almost lost my son.Again I cant stress enough for those of you that don't know first hand I have never ever been so ill in my entire life. .
                    I feel this flu isnt that much different then seasonal flu as far as the SHOTS go, so the experience  from the previous years gave the companies a heads up for developing the h1n1 shots. DId they develope enough in time  NO.
               For those people like myself that have gotten the flu shots every year forever, the h1n1 will be a compond of next years shots too.I am so sorry for those people that want one cant find them, THIS IS WRONG I pray they all get theirs soon.  My fear is people being hit with both the seasonal and h1n1 at the same time !! 
 
                For those of you that dont want a shot, the news of a shortage shoulnt bother you at all.
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