"MUST READ"

PLEASE, TAKE SOME TIME AND READ THIS ARTICLE .

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/02/26/opinion/edgarrett.php

I find to that I am alone in my concerns..All I have to talk to about it are my kids..and I sorta did the freak thing last night....just putting plans in to place and I got the pooh poo from the 14 year old..his eyes rolling in his..kinda stuff and then he starts to cry cause i lost it..trying to save their lives penny pinch..shop at thrift stores get what I can for them..and now with all the news this week..just getting crazy...

I have no family close by..and if I tried to talk to them about this I knwo they would put me a straight jacket(well at least try)...at least we have this site to express how we feel and keep up to date on whats going on...and even thou I have some things to get done today..I find myself compelled to come back here and see whats going on..

I have the feeling the news about H2H is going to be fast and furious..and i want to be right on top of it...

I feel like I'm butting in a family discussion when ever I post a reply but here I go any way.

Muskrat I agree 100%.  I'm to the point I know longer bring up bf, to my kids, husband, family or friends.  And I don't understand it.  Do they not watch the news or read a paper?  What is it going to take for the world to see this is serious stuff.  And we need to be prepared?  Weather its suppling extra food  or getting a couple months of prescriptions now. 

What does the forum think,  when does the world realize that we are in big trouble?

mohican wrote: I feel like I'm butting in a family discussion when ever I post a reply but here I go any way.

Mohican, we are glad to have you here. You are a valued member of this forum.  Your input is appreciated, so please dont feel like you are butting in. All members are very welcome here, please feel at home!

THANK YOU,  POLA !!  

kiwi wrote:  some people are lucky to see things and some don't. WWII is another case, when hitler went into europe only a very few left, the rest stayed and it's all recorded in history.

I can see your comparision with the towns people and the aboringal families who ran away from the impending storm.  But comparing their situation to Hitler's abominations in Europe during WWII just isn't right.

The townspeople were warned about the storm.

Nobody had any idea of Hitler's intent.  Do you think anyone would have stayed if the had any notion of what a monster the man was! Sure, some of the polish farmers surrounding the concentration camps are said to have known as it was happening.  But come on!  We didn't find out about it until the end of the war!

Just putting in my 2 cents, but I believe that we lose sight sometimes of the nature of the threat we may face.

The worst influenza pandemic in recorded history killed between 2 and 5 percent of the population that caught the virus.  A tragedy, to be sure, but not a population killer like something out of The Stand or The Omega Man.  Most of the world survived and recovered in 1918, and we will this time, too.

This virus may indeed be more deadly than the H1N1 of 1918, but we don't know that for sure.  As a matter of fact, there is very little about the virus that we do know for sure.  We can only know that the better we prepare ourselves and our families, the better chance we have of surviving WHATEVER threat that comes up.

Psychologically, I prefer to do three things:

1) Keep a close eye on the evolving situation

2) Stockpile the necessities that will help me avoid exposure to the virus

3) Maintain perspective from a global picture, and not let myself project the worst possible scenario

4) Work with others where I can to provide (and also obtain) support in the face of potentially very trying times ahead.

Just my two cents...  but I don't think I'm burying my head in the sand...

~Fluless

KIWI, The people in Germany, Poland etc. and the rest of europe did not leave because they had no where to go! This was their home. The only home they ever knew and even if in thier wildest dreams they could have imagined the torture, death and diabolicle distruction that would befall them (which of course they couldn't possibly) they had no where else to go and you were not able to leave w/o propper papers even if you had the means and desire.  Which country in europe would you have suggested? All were effected. And why should they have to leave anyway? It was their country too. Hitler was not a sunami or a cat 5 hurricane!

I cannot believe that you would even incinuate that the people who lived and died in europe during WWII died because they didn't heed the warning signs! And hence you basically saying that it was all their own falt because they should've known better.

So glad you have all the woulda coulda shoulda's worked out in your little mind so nice and neat from the comfort of your home.

What WWII movies have you been watching anyway??? I'd be happy to make some new recomendations.

There is no comparison to be made here between Hitler and BF in terms of people heeding the waring signs.

I'm Appauled I commend you for not letting kiwi's rediculous point go unaddressed but the world did know what was taking place in Europe during the war. Many turned a blind eye just like we do now. We don't like to see or get involved with the attrocities taking place today in other parts of the world like Darfar and/or Aids killing millions in Africa. Even the plight of Katrina victims has faded away to some degree in the minds of most Americans I fear. Same old same old, just not my problem onto the new unfortunate disaster of the day. People suffer from distractability, very short attention spans and self involvement. :>{

Since someone else brought up the analogy  and made the comparision to this current situation and the war in Europe during the Hitler Era, lets' do the subject some justice here and make an educated response andget it out of the road forever

The jews were very well aware of the fact that Hitler was coming to power as early as 1930, watched the rise in antisemitism increasing exponentially month by month, watched the Nazi Party and the SA grow and grow and grow in numbers and in influence, watched as they won elections.  Hitler gets appointed Chancellor in 1933, and the Nazi's take over the Reichstag.  That same year the Reichstag burns and all power goes to Hitler, who rules by decree from that point forward.  Hitler.  The man that wrote "Mein Kampf"- which was widely pubished and read since 1929.  That was writing on the wall for anyone jewish that wasn't blind.  Three years later the "racial laws" of Goering (Nuremberg) 1936, start taking everything away from the jews, I mean everything away from them, step by step this happens, not overnight mind you, but  in broad daylight over a years time.  1938, the Pogrom, Krystal Nacht, "the Night of Breaking Glass"- all over Germany what little else they had was destroyed and the police did nothing to stop it because they were under the control of the Nazi Party. 

Point I am making here is that they knew something ill , something very ill was headed their way.  Some choose to do something about it, some chose to do nothing and hoped against all reasonable odds that somehow it would stop and go into reverse, and some obviously ignored it despite the fact that every jew in Europe was talking about it, was feeling the effects already.

The ones that choose to do something about it lived.

This H5N1 situation is not much different by comparision in that we, like the jews in the 1930's, have ample warning that something wicked is going to happen, that it is coming and there's not one dammned thing we can do to stop it.  All we can do is not ignore it and make the choices that will allow us to survive.  That choice is to prepare for it.

There are those who won't prepare because they hope that it won't happen, there are those who won't prepare because they don't beleive it will/can happen.

There is nothing we can do for people who ignore the facts, who ignore the obvious.  They do so at their own peril, not at ours.

You may die during the pandemic. You may die from a heart attack, a break-in, an accident or the “bird-flu”. By preparing you increase your chances of survival. You will have medical supplies, food, fuel, and water for several weeks at home. If you and everyone in your family come down with the flu you can save your strength using your preparations. Be prepared for disasters. Then be at peace knowing you’ve done your best for your family.