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US Military Moves Forces for Possible Libya Mission

 
"We have planners working various contingency plans, and I think it's safe to say as part of this we are repositioning forces to provide for that flexibility, once decisions are made,"
 
 
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Yemen's President Blames US, Israel for Arab Unrest

Speaking Tuesday, Saleh accused the United States and Israel of working together to cause uprisings in Yemen and other parts of the Arab world, saying the alleged plot is orchestrated in Tel Aviv under U.S. supervision.

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Originally posted by mrmouse mrmouse wrote:

I say we stay the hell out of that fly-trap, as far as deploying US troops go! Let Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Bahrain, and Dubai step up to the plate!
 
I am with you mr, sept not sure any of the countries (Saudi Arabia, Jordon, and Bahrain) could intervene. Maybe Saudi Arabia who just gave their population a 15 % raise to pre-empt their own problems, Bahrain is scrambling to keep things together and Jordon is also experiencing some protests.
 
Europe should bear the brunt of this one I believe, especially if Military intervention is needed to stop an all out shoot-out, and being how they recieve 80+ % of the crude from Libya. Perhaps we could assist in a No Fly Zone to keep his airforce grounded. From what I understand about Libya it is very Clan oriented still and Gadaffi's clan controls the Airforce. Not sure we could just sit back and watch someone like Gadaffi all out bombing his own cities and people for long without doing something.
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# Gadhafi warns 'thousands of Libyans' will die if U.S. or NATO intervene in protest-torn country - AP http://apne.ws/f4aSsK 9 minutes ago via breakingnews.com

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Sorry, I say "NO WAY" to doing anything in any of these countries. Let Europe be the "bad guys". We have paid our dues with 9/11 and Iraq, Afganistan and Bosnia. We need to keep out and let the people of these countries fight their own civil wars.

I am usually a Hawk but I know when to stay out. These people do not want our help!
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When is enough, enough? I thought Obama was the antithesis of George Jr., so much for Hope and Change!


14 Potential Justifications For An Invasion Of Libya By The U.S. Military That Are Currently Being Floated In The Mainstream Media.

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Libya

 

Libya at this point has become a failed State with Anti-Government Protesters now armed and in control of Eastern Libya and parts of the west while Pro Gadaffi forces in control of the West. Some 75+% of oil production facilities are in control of Anti-Government forces while Gadaffi continues attacks to on these areas to regain control. In the past 24 hours Gadaffi forces have surrounded the City of Az Zawiyah just to the southwest of Tripoli and have been firing heavy artillery from all sides and using heavily armored vehicles in an attempt to break through Anti-Government forces who shakely hold control.

 

 

Yemen

 

Tens of thousands protest across the country calling for the Presidents Resignation after a day earlier when Government forces opened fire on protester killing four and wounding many more. Saleh, who has been in power for 32 years has rejected an opposition proposal for him to step down by the end of 2011.

 

 

Bahrain

 

Many thousands continue to protest in the tiny nation which is approaching its third week. Government has agreed to meet to discuss reforms days after violence broke out between pro and anti Government protesters.

 

 
Jordon

 

Thousands pour into the streets after Government rejects calls for a Constitutional Monarchy which would strip the executive powers from the current King Abdullah. The Government is rejecting calls for any change.  

 

 

Iraq

 

Thousands of protester converge on the capital and other locations around the country demonstrating against Governmental Corruption and for better Public Services.

 

 

Iran

 

70 plus activists arrested in protests the Iranian Government insists is not happening. Massive police and security forces have been mobilized to put down protests using tear gas and force to disburse protests.

 

Oman

 

Protests break out against Government Corruption but not there leader. Oman Leader has spent much of the Countries Wealth on Healthcare, Infrastructure, and other major projects to improve the Country. This nation also has extended Women’s rights well beyond most other Gulf States.

 

 

 
Sudi Arabia

 

Bans all protests and marches in the Country. This after last week’s announcement to raise wages by 15 percent and allocating several hundred billion dollars to be spent across the country to improve education, housing, healthcare, and other national projects.

 

 
Egypt

 

Fresah protests and marches now focusing in on Justice for those who have commited crimes against the people of Egypt. Travel bans on Mubarak and others as well as some arrests and charges have begun. New Transitional Prime Minister addresses huge crowd in Tahrir (Liberation) Square claiming if he can not bring democratic reforms he will resign and join them.

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Gates on urgent mission to Cairo as military rulers lose grip
DEBKAfile Exclusive Report March 5, 2011, 8:56 PM (GMT+02:00)
US Defense Secretary Robert Gates

President Barack Obama Saturday, March 5, asked Defense Secretary Robert Gates to set out for Cairo without delay on an emergency mission as the unrest in Egypt veered out of control, debkafile's exclusive sources report from Washington. Friday night, thousands of protesters seized control of the headquarters Egyptian security police (Mahabis Namn El Dawla) in Alexandria, Cairo and the nearby 6 of October town, shutting down its operations across the country.

In the last hours, information reaching Washington indicated that control was slipping out of the hands of the Egyptian military junta ruling the country since Hosni Mubarak's overthrow; anti-American elements energized by Iran appeared to have strengthened their hold on the protest movement, causing deep concern in the White House.
The capture of the three Mahabis centers opened to disaffected elements the secret files on every political and military leader in the country, confidential information once accessible only to ex-intelligence minister Gen. Omar Suleiman before the uprising.

While the Obama administration has a better inside picture of Egypt's opposition groups than it has about Libya, intelligence is still inadequate about the shape of the local leadership of those groups and to whom they defer.

Last Wednesday, March 2, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton accused Iran of stirring the pot when she addressed the House Appropriations Committee: "They (the Iranians) are using Hizballah… to communicate with counterparts… in (the Palestinian movement) Hamas who then in turn communicate with counterparts in Egypt," she said.
debkafile's sources report that large sums of Iranian petrodollars have reached the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood and radicalized its message to the Egyptian people. Military young leaders are believed to have executed a coup and displaced the veterans. The Palestinian Hamas has turned its well-oiled smuggling machine into a channel for transmitting Iranian cash to keep Egyptian Islamic extremists on the march.

The Israeli government is the only one in the region to show no concern about violent mayhem spurting up across its border, and has apparently shrugged off the key role played by the Palestinian rulers of Gaza in stirring up trouble in Egypt at Tehran's behest ,and the rising strength of the Muslim Brotherhood - both of which have a dangerous impact on Israeli security.

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It's like it 1979 all over again, like when the Shah fell!

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Jewish Response to the Obama Cairo Speechwww.youtube.com/watch?v=nImmsxXoLO0
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8 British troops captured in Libya
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Hey mr
I also read another post this morning stating the 8 were actually 7 special forces escorting an 8th man who was a diplomat sent to make contact with Anti-Government groups, and that they have been released after meeting with Anti-Government Forces near Benghazi and have boarded a ship and are out of the country.
 
Trying to find that post for the link--It was one of the news agencies in the middle east
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I found an article on the Drudge Report.........
 
 
 

Libya: SAS soldiers 'held by Libyan rebels'

An SAS unit was being held by rebel forces in Libya, it was reported today.

 

Up to eight soldiers were captured as they escorted a junior British diplomat through rebel-held territory in the east of the country, the Sunday Times said.

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Libya unrest: UK diplomatic team released by rebels
 
A British diplomatic team who were detained in eastern Libya after landing there two days ago have been freed, the Foreign Office has confirmed.

The men are understood to have left Benghazi bound for Malta on board the Royal Navy frigate HMS Cumberland.

 
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Take the link below for what its worth, but after listening to Mr. Williams, and looking back 40 -50 years, you can see why the Shah and Saddam had to go! And, now the rest of the so-called dictators in the Middle East.

www.*********.com/forum/thread670191/pg1

Gaddafi & IMF (I mean WMD)
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Sorry, the link above does not work. try this one.
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Obama builds up US-NATO military option for Libya
DEBKAfile Special Report March 7, 2011, 10:25 PM (GMT+02:00)
US AWACS on extra surveillance over Libya

US President Barack Obama launched a number of diplomatic and military steps Monday. March 7 pointing toward preparation for US and NATO intervention in the Libyan civil war - notwithstanding objections from the Pentagon and US military chiefs. debkafile's intelligence and Washington sources report that the administration was behind the appeal Monday by UAE Foreign Minister Sheikh Abdullah bin Zayed al-Nahayan for UN Security Council protection for the Libyan people. The appeal's purpose was to extend the sanctions resolution against Muammar Qaddafi to include military intervention. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov responded instantly that Moscow is against any "foreign intervention" in Libya, indicating a Russian veto would block a new resolution.
In Brussels, NATO sources reported that Awacs surveillance flights over Libya would be extended from 10 to 24 hours a day.  Our military sources report that the US Air Force alone is capable of this mission, which would be tantamount to preparations for an aerial operation against pro-Qaddafi forces.
White House spokesman Jay Carney denied that the enforcement of a no-fly zone was planned - only operations against Libyan helicopter gunships and air control towers.
He appeared to be signaling that the Obama administration was weighing different options for disabling the Libyan air force without directly intervening in those zones. That limitation was apparently applied in consideration of the objections of US Secretary of Defense Robert Gates and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Command, Adm. Mike Mullen and US Air Force chiefs to putting a large number of US warplanes in jeopardy. They have warned that Qaddafi has enough up-to-date air force and advanced anti-air missiles to blow US warplanes out of the sky.

Carney added: "The option of providing military assistance to the rebels is on the table."

He was responding to earlier reports from British sources that Washington had asked Saudi Arabia to send weapons to the Libyan rebels. debkafile reports that there was no such request of Riyadh. However, Monday night, the Libyan rebels were reported to have taken delivery of a batch of anti-air missiles.

For the first time, Washington and Brussels have received certain information partially supporting Muammar Qaddafi's claim that al Qaeda is calling the shots for the Libyan rebellion. If this intelligence is confirmed, Obama may have to back down from his intended military intervention on the side of the anti-Qaddafi insurrection.

It was also rumored in Washington Monday, that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton who had strongly objected to US military action in Libya had reconsidered her position and informed the president she was now in favor.

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Unemployment And The Arab Revolution
March 4, 2011: Libyans are rebelling against their dictatorial government, and one of the complaints is a lack of jobs. The unemployment rate is believed to be about 30 percent. Yet there are over a million foreign workers in Libya, and a million government employees. The foreigners comprise 20 percent of the population, and nearly half the workforce. There are plenty of jobs for Libyans, but most of the jobs require work most Libyans will not do. As a result, most of the jobs are held by foreigners, often illegal immigrants from Egypt and other African nations to the south. A revolution is unlikely to change this.
This is not an unusual situation in the Arab oil states. In Saudi Arabia, the unemployment rate is 12 percent, but many of those men are unemployed by choice. Arabs tend to have a very high opinion of themselves, and most jobs available to poorly educated young men, do not satisfy. Thus most Saudis, and Libyans, prefer a government job, where the work is easy, the pay is good, the title is flattering, and life is boring. In the non-government sector of the economy, 90 percent of the Saudi jobs are taken by foreigners. These foreigners comprise 27 percent of the Saudi population, mostly to staff all the non-government jobs. This means most young Saudi men have few challenges. One might say that many of them are desperate for some test of their worth, and a job in the competitive civilian economy does not do it. Thus al Qaeda appealed to this by urging Saudi men to come to Iraq and fight for Islam. Since few of the volunteers had any fighting skills, most arrived and were talked into being suicide bombers.

The Saudi employment situation is not unique. The UAE (United Arab Emirates) has foreigners occupying 99 percent of the non-government jobs. The unemployment rate is 23 percent, but only a tenth of those are actually looking for a job. A survey indicated that most of the unemployed are idle by choice. Kuwait is more entrepreneurial, with only 80 percent of the non-government jobs taken by foreigners. The other Gulf Arab states (which have less oil) have a similar situation.

Thus even if Libyans succeed in ousting the current dictatorship, they will still have to deal with the jobs situation. Many of the several hundred thousand foreign workers who have fled the country will want to come back when things settle down. And many of them will be desperately needed, because the foreigners have essential skills required to keep the economy going. Meanwhile, more government jobs is not a solution, because even the current government announced, last year, a plan for  eliminating 400,000 government jobs over the next few years. This is one reason many Libyans joined the rebels, but the government jobs will still have to go, because there is not enough oil revenue to sustain the current government payroll. The jobs situation is one the major problems in Libya, and one that rarely gets talked about. But it's a problem that won't go away.

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Secret FBI, CIA Documents and Sex Video Tapes Found At Egypt's Terror Police Headquarters
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The Arab League of Nations has asked the United Nations for a NO FLY ZONE over Libya

 
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Bahrain Declares Civil Emergency
 
Sudi Arabia Rolls Military in to Bahrain.
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UN aproves NO FLY ZONE (10 -0--5abst) over Libya as Gaddafi Military Force takes towns back on the ground Approaching Benghazi (rebel headquarters)
 
"all necessary measures"
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The vote in the 15-member council was 10-0 with five abstentions, including Russia and China.

The United States, France and Britain had pushed for speedy approval.

French Prime Minister Francois Fillon said if the resolution was approved, France would support military action against Gadhafi within hours. The U.S. said it was preparing for action. Several Arab nations were expected to provide backup.

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So now what?
 
We take out GaddaI's ground assault and fly away leaving it to the Rebels?
 
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"Our air force will oppose any aggression by Colonel Gadhafi against the population of Benghazi," said French President Nicolas Sarkozy, speaking after an international, top-level meeting in Paris over the Libyan crisis.

"As of now, our aircraft are preventing planes from attacking the town," he said. "As of now, our aircraft are prepared to intervene against tanks."

 
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110 Cruise Missiles fired from multiple Navel Forces  (Odyssey Dawn
 
Tomahawk Cruise Missile
 
 
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"Rarely, very, very rarely does a country that topples their government through what's happening now, or through violence, become more free. I can think of only one example, and we're in it, and that's only because George Washington had a concience. They invariably wind up under a dictatorial style of leadership, and in Muslim countries, under a fundamentalist Islamic dictator. Now that the Muslim Brotherhood is in this mess the likelihood of reform for the better is dwindling. My prediction is that if it falls now, they'll be a second Yemen/Iran. Either unable to squash the cancer of extremist Islam, or will be an antagonistic force in the area."


Most people do not understand how Great a man Washington was. After the war was won, he went back to being a Gentleman farmer. He claimed no glory for himself, sought no title. He in effect surrendered his sword to the country even though he won the war (with the help from the French).  When it was obvious that the Articles of Confederation were too weak to keep the country strong, he came out of

retirement to become the first president under the new Constitution.

As president he was so horribly maligned in the newspapers of the day that he actually wrote his resignation letter and was going to quit because he could not stand all of the lies that were printed about him. He was talked out of it by his friends and served his terms but was constantly emotionally hurt by all of the people who accused him of wanting to be king.

At the end of his presidency he retired to Virginia to be a gentleman farmer again. He established a precident of service that few other leaders in the rest of the world matched. Without him, our foundling country would have failed and we could have been a dictatorship or under the leadership of a self appointed King or a King appointed from outside by a stronger power.

When it comes to honoring Washington, I stand in AWE of the man.  Absolutely one of the greatest leaders in all of human history, not because of victories  on the battlefield but because of his idealism. 

Would that we had world leaders as noble in this age.



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Coalition shows first cracks as Qaddafi digs in for guerrilla war

"1.  The Arabs are far from united in the wish to knock Qaddafi over. The Anglo-French presentation of their operation as backed from wall to wall by the Arab world and therefore a huge diplomatic feat is misleading. Saudi Arabia, Syria and Egypt object to outside military intervention in Libya, although they are keeping quiet for now. Most other Arab rulers are furious with Arab League Secretary Amr Moussa for claiming he spoke for them all when he voiced support for the Arab Revolt.

Feeling the heat, Moussa Sunday criticized the coalition air strikes against Libya as unacceptable and said they should be stopped. He pulled the rug embarrassingly from under the UK-French boast of a broad European-Arab consensus for the military operation"

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The Middle East is a Powder Keg.  Syria through Iran has been arming Libya.  As in Egypt who will replace this regime?   Will Saudi Arabia and Iran come to blows over Bahrain?
Why is the Media always silent on Israel when it is attacked...Fogel family massacre, 50 rockets launched into Israel?  But lots of Media when it defends itself.
 
I feel we have just been pulled into the beginning of a major skirmish or war in the Middle East. 
 
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Arab League condemns broad bombing campaign in Libya

 

By Edward Cody, Sunday, March 20, 1:01 PM

CAIRO—The Arab League secretary general, Amr Moussa, deplored the broad scope of the U.S.-European bombing campaign in Libya on Sunday and said he would call a new league meeting to reconsider Arab approval of the Western military intervention.

Moussa said the Arab League’s approval of a no-fly zone on March 12 was based on a desire to prevent Moammar Gaddafi’s air force from attacking civilians and was not designed to embrace the intense bombing and missile attacks—including on Tripoli, the capital, and on Libyan ground forces—that have filled Arab television screens for the last two days.

“What is happening in Libya differs from the aim of imposing a no-fly zone,” he said in a statement on the official Middle East News Agency. “And what we want is the protection of civilians and not the shelling of more civilians.”

Moussa’s declaration suggested some of the 22 Arab League members were taken aback by what they have seen and wanted to modify their approval lest they be perceived as accepting outright Western military intervention in Libya. Although the eccentric Gaddafi is widely looked down on in the Arab world, Middle Eastern leaders and their peoples traditionally have risen up in emotional protest at the first sign of Western intervention.

A shift away from the Arab League endorsement, even partial, would constitute an important setback to the U.S.-European campaign. Western leaders brandished the Arab League decision as a justification for their decision to move militarily and as a weapon in the debate to obtain a U.N. Security Council resolution two days before the bombing began.

As U.S. and European military operations entered their second day, however, most Arab governments maintained public silence and the strongest expressions of opposition came from the greatest distance. Presidents Hugo Chavez of Venezuela, Daniel Ortega of Nicaragua, Evo Morales of Bolivia and Fidel Castro of Cuba condemned the intervention and suggested Western powers were seeking to get their hands on Libya’s oil reserves rather than limit the bloodshed in the country.

Russia and China, which abstained on the U.N. Security Council resolution authorizing military intervention, also expressed regret that Western powers had chosen to get involved despite their advice.

In the Middle East, the abiding power of popular distrust against Western intervention was evident despite the March 12 Arab League decision. It was not clear how many Arab governments shared the hesitations voiced by Moussa. But so far only the Western-oriented Gulf emirate of Qatar has announced it would participate despite Western efforts to enlist Arab military forces into the campaign.

The Qatari prime minister, Hamad bin Jassem Al-Thani, told reporters Qatar made its decision in order to “stop the bloodbath” that he said Gaddafi was inflicting on rebel forces and civilians in rebel-controlled cities. He did not describe the extent of Qatar’s military involvement or what the mission of Qatari aircraft or personnel would be alongside U.S., French and British planes and ships that have carried out the initial strikes.

Islam Lutfy, a lawyer and Muslim Brotherhood leader in Egypt, said he opposed the military intervention because the real intention of the United States and its European allies was to get into position to benefit from Libya’s oil supplies. “The countries aligned against Libya are there not for humanitarian reasons but to further their own interests,” he added.

But the Muslim Brotherhood and its allies in the Youth Coalition that spearheaded Egypt’s recent upheavals took no official position, busy instead with Saturday’s referendum on constitutional amendments designed to open the country’s democracy. Similarly, the provisional military-run government took no stand and most Cairo newspapers gave only secondary space to the Libya conflict.

When the Arab League approved imposition of a no-fly zone, only Syria and Algeria opposed the league’s decision, according to Egyptian officials. The Syrian Foreign Ministry on Thursday reiterated Syria’s opposition, as diplomatic momentum gathered for the U.S.-European operation.

“Syria rejects all forms of foreign interference in Libyan affairs, since that would be a violation of Libya’s sovereignty, independence and the unity of its land,” it said in a statement.

Al Qaeda, which could be expected to oppose foreign intervention in an Arab country and embrace Gaddafi’s qualification of the campaign as a new crusade, made no immediate comment. This likely was due in part to the Qaeda leadership’s difficulty in communicating without revealing its position. But it also was a reminder of Gaddafi’s frequent assertions that Al Qaeda was behind the Libyan revolt and that he and the West should work hand-in-hand to defeat the rebels.

Iran and its Shiite Muslim allies in Lebanon’s Hezbollah, reflexively opposed to Western influence in the Middle East, also were forced into a somewhat equivocal position, condemning Gaddafi for his bloody tactics but opposing the Western military intervention.

“The fact that most Arab and Muslim leaders did not take responsibility opened the way for Western intervention in Libya,” declared Hassan Nasrallah, the Hezbollah leader, in video speech Sunday to his followers. “This opens the way for foreign interventions in every Arab country. It brings us back to the days of occupation, colonization and partition.”

At the same time, Nasrallah accused Gaddafi of using the same brutality against his opponents as Israel has used against Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in Gaza.

The Iranian Foreign Ministry, which previously criticized Gaddafi’s crackdown, on Sunday expressed “doubts” about U.S. and European intentions. Like the Latin American critics, it suggested the claims of wanting to protect civilians were just a cover for a desire to install a more malleable leadership in Tripoli and make it easier to exploit Libya’s oil.

Gaddafi has been on the enemies’ list of Shiite activists in the Middle East since 1978, when Lebanon’s paramount Shiite leader, Imam Musa Sudr, disappeared during a fund-raising visit to Tripoli. His fate has never been officially cleared up but Palestine Liberation Organization investigators determined that he was probably killed by Gaddafi’s security agents after they misunderstood an order from Gaddafi to “get rid of” Sudr and his pestering for money.

 

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Yemen begins to Unravel as senior government and military leaders defect or decline to be part of the current governmet.

 
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Timeline: Yemen's uprising
 
January 27: The first major demonstration saw 16,000 protesters on the streets of Sanaa on 27th January, calling for the ouster of President Ali Abdullah Saleh.

February 2: President Saleh announced he would not run for re-election in 2013 and that he would not hand power to his son.

February 3: More than 20, 000 anti-government protesters gathered in Sanaa for a "day of rage" demanding president Saleh's resignation.

February/March: Huge protests in the capital Sanaa and across the country continued despite the presidential announcement.

March 7: Reports of deaths and injuries after security forces open fire on detainees as they gathered in the prison's courtyard in Sanaa to show their solidarity with the people who want to overthrow the government.

March 12: Crackdown on protesters leaves tens of people dead.

March 18: Armed men kill over 40 protesters in the capital. President Saleh announces a state of emergency.

March 20: President Saleh fired his entire cabinet. But even his own tribe calls for his resignation. Also the Yemen ambassador to the UN quit in protest at the use of force against protesters.

March 21: - Several top military commanders defect and troops and tanks are deployed in Sanaa to protect the anti-government protesters. Yemen's ambassador to Syria also resigns from his post to support the anti-government movement demanding Saleh's resignation.

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Hey guys, I'm not in the U.S. At the moment, but I'm also not in libya. I'm actually using my cell phone, so bear with my non use of paragraphs. The cruise missile and bombing campaign has been against surface to air missile assets etc. Other countries specifically wanted this because they wanted the U.S. To get a bunch of our people killed or shot down, and instead we showed exactly how dangerous and powerful we really are and we're just toying with the libyans! That show of force wasn't even a trifling of what we're capable of if we actually took the gloves off. How many other countries, and I mean superpowers too, have even thirty percent of our capabilities? Answer: none of them, and they hate it bigtime. They wanted us to get a big black eye here, and now that it didn't happen, they're butthurt.
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Syria starting to bubble over after days of protests and 25 to 100 people dead after violent crackdown by Government. Government now scrambling with announcements today of (Promised Reforms). Angry protesters call for a massive nationwide protest Friday, the Government has responded by deploying massive numbers of Security Forces.

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Originally posted by Turboguy Turboguy wrote:

Hey guys, I'm not in the U.S. At the moment, but I'm also not in libya. I'm actually using my cell phone, so bear with my non use of paragraphs. The cruise missile and bombing campaign has been against surface to air missile assets etc. Other countries specifically wanted this because they wanted the U.S. To get a bunch of our people killed or shot down, and instead we showed exactly how dangerous and powerful we really are and we're just toying with the libyans! That show of force wasn't even a trifling of what we're capable of if we actually took the gloves off. How many other countries, and I mean superpowers too, have even thirty percent of our capabilities? Answer: none of them, and they hate it bigtime. They wanted us to get a big black eye here, and now that it didn't happen, they're butthurt.
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Totally agree TG, nobody has anywhere near the big stick we have (Especially Air and Naval in the Region).  If the intent of some is to give us a black eye militarily they will be sadly mistaken I believe. Our Military in general is far--far ahead or beyond most others around the World including those who border on Super Power status, and those that are approaching our capabilities are our allies. Sounds arrogant but that is a fact. Politically however the black eye could happen via the NATO Alliance and more importantly Turkey. This will be a good test of how effective this newer 28 nation body can be. If one nation is able to stop progress based on a Religious Ideology or affiliation (Islam), then all bets are off for the future of NATO and its ability to respond to situations around the World without prejudice or affiliation outside of the alliance.  If a nation undermines the efforts and decisions of the alliance after the decision is made is it acting in the best interests of the alliance or is there another Agenda (surprise), and there is your black eye.  

 

To early to say obviously, everyone wants answers to questions way before they can be answered either militarily or politically. All part of the Political Theatre

 

Some important questions of relevance will be answered here in my opinion!

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Syria

Many thousands of people in the streets in Daraa and spreading to other cities. Government Opens fire on Anti-Government Protesters in Daraa killing 50+. Violent Oppression—You would have to have no fear to March Here.

Yemen

Tens of thousands in the streets in a “Day of Departure Protest”, while the President blames it on Shia Groups and Drug Dealers. Big disconnect here

Jordon

Thousands in the streets, 2 Anti-Government Protesters are beaten to death and hundreds are injured including riot police. The Prime Minister responds with a Threat (I warn of consiquences).

Libya

Control of the Air is for the most part is done, military ground targets are being taken out more targets by the day, NATO takes control of the mission. Arab Planes are flying over libya enforcing No Fly Zone. Anti-Government Forces take back City (Ajdabiya) with Coalition help from the Air. Many Gaddafi tanks, artillery, and armored vehicles still smoldering around the city as Anti Government Forces Celebrate the small win. Move now to retake Brega along the Coast which Gaddafi Rolled through with Tanks and Armored forces more than a week ago.

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And not to be out-done a quarter of a million march in UK streets to protest against Cuts and Corporate Handouts (Bailouts).

 

 

 

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Libyan rebel commander admits his fighters have al-Qaeda links

Abdel-Hakim al-Hasidi, the Libyan rebel leader, has said jihadists who fought against allied troops in Iraq are on the front lines of the battle against Muammar Gaddafi's regime.

 
Mr al-Hasidi admitted he had earlier fought against 'the foreign invasion' in Afghanistan Photo: AFP
 
By Praveen Swami, Nick Squires and Duncan Gardham 5:00PM GMT 25 Mar 2011

In an interview with the Italian newspaper Il Sole 24 Ore, Mr al-Hasidi admitted that he had recruited "around 25" men from the Derna area in eastern Libya to fight against coalition troops in Iraq. Some of them, he said, are "today are on the front lines in Adjabiya".

Mr al-Hasidi insisted his fighters "are patriots and good Muslims, not terrorists," but added that the "members of al-Qaeda are also good Muslims and are fighting against the invader".

His revelations came even as Idriss Deby Itno, Chad's president, said al-Qaeda had managed to pillage military arsenals in the Libyan rebel zone and acquired arms, "including surface-to-air missiles, which were then smuggled into their sanctuaries".

Mr al-Hasidi admitted he had earlier fought against "the foreign invasion" in Afghanistan, before being "captured in 2002 in Peshwar, in Pakistan". He was later handed over to the US, and then held in Libya before being released in 2008.

US and British government sources said Mr al-Hasidi was a member of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, or LIFG, which killed dozens of Libyan troops in guerrilla attacks around Derna and Benghazi in 1995 and 1996.

Even though the LIFG is not part of the al-Qaeda organisation, the United States military's West Point academy has said the two share an "increasingly co-operative relationship". In 2007, documents captured by allied forces from the town of Sinjar, showed LIFG emmbers made up the second-largest cohort of foreign fighters in Iraq, after Saudi Arabia.

Earlier this month, al-Qaeda issued a call for supporters to back the Libyan rebellion, which it said would lead to the imposition of "the stage of Islam" in the country.

British Islamists have also backed the rebellion, with the former head of the banned al-Muhajiroun proclaiming that the call for "Islam, the Shariah and jihad from Libya" had "shaken the enemies of Islam and the Muslims more than the tsunami that Allah sent against their friends, the Japanese".

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Libya

 Antigovernment forces capture western border crossing with Tunisia.

 European Countries decide to put non lethal Boots on the ground in Libya to help Rebel Forces organize and strategize.

 

US adds Predator Drones to Libyan Theatre with strikes starting today.  Republican Senator visits Benghazi and says he will demand more money for the Anti Government Forces.  Gaddafi forces reportedly withdrawing from the besieged city of Misratah where hundreds have been killed in recent Government Attacks.

 

 Syria

 On Friday tens of thousands have joined the Atigovernment demonstrations in more than 40 cities.

 Assad decides to crack down with tear gas and live fire killing atleast 75 people in a single day.

 Two Syrian Legislators of Parliament have stepped down and are outraged at the violent crack down and deaths of Pro Democracy Demonstrators.

 US Officially condemns Syria (Assad) for Outrageous Violence against its People.

 Today Syrian Security Forces have opened fire on several funeral procession gatherings which are estimated in the thousands as the Syrian people become enraged with its government and Assad.

 

Yemen

The current President (Dictator) has agreed to the GCC Transitional plan that would end his rule over Yemen. The opposition has also agreed in prioncipal.

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Israel Citizens (Youth) have had enough of their political Leaders with the 16th day of protests, the longest Israel has seen in many-many years. Over a hundred thousand expected in the streets this weekend

 

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They would do better to pay attention to what is happening in Egypt. The liberals got their latest protest hijacked by the brotherhood. Hundreds of thousands shouting for Sharia Law, death to the secularists. Iran may get that world Islamic government yet.
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I know a perfect way to take care of all these dirtbag Muslims, their screwed up religion, and the imposition of Sharia Law:



That's right: Canned Sunshine. The cure all for Muslim stupidity.
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I know a perfect way to take care of all these dirtbag Muslims, their screwed up religion, and the imposition of Sharia Law:



That's right: Canned Sunshine. The cure all for Muslim stupidity.
 
 
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Looks Like Libya (Tripoli-Gaddafi) will fall Today or soon
 
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It appears Gaddafi made the same mistake as the Shah of Iran, he actually thought the oil belonged to him! And, for his transgressions the powerful elite had to smack him down, and smear his name for the sake of Democracy Building in North Africa and the Middle East.

Where's the outcry from the Left in this country? Where's Barbra Boxer and Diane Feinstein, Nancy Palosi and Hilary Clinton screaming about unilateral police actions against innocent civilians? If George W. Bush and Dick Chaney would have attacked Libya CNN and MSNBC would have been in over-drive condemning such an egregious offense. Silence, that's what you hear! So, as we bask in the glow of victory over Gaddafi tonight and Mubarak a few months ago, remember we've exchanged stability for uncertainty across Libya and Egypt. It's funny how once the mission was complete in Libya, the media shifted our attention away to an overhyped hurricane.     

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The "Liberation" of Libya: NATO Special Forces and Al Qaeda Join Hands
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Report: Israel sends 2 warships to Egyptian border

Military sources tell AP Israeli Navy sent additional warships to maritime border with Egypt following intelligence indicating viable terror threat. Meanwhile, Iran set to send 15th fleet to area as well as 'to thwart pirate activity'

 

The Israeli Navy (INF) has decided to boost its presence and patrols near Israel's maritime border with Egypt due to a viable terror threat in the area.

Israeli security sources told the Associated Press on Tuesday that two additional warships have been dispatched to Israel's Red Sea border with Egypt. Another source stressed that the operation was routine, telling Reuters that "two naval craft have been sent to the Red Sea. This is not unusual."

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On Monday, IDF Chief of Staff Lt.-Gen Benny Gantz ordered that deployment across the entire southern sector be bolstered, especially in the area near the Israel-Egypt border, following intelligence indicating an imminent threat.

The area adjacent to the border has become the scene of military deployment described by one security source as "unprecedented." The IDF has also deployed advanced technology in the area in order to thwart terror attacks. Still, No changes in security alignments were observed on the Egyptian side of the border.


INF warships (Photo: Amit Magal)

Military intelligence suggests that an Islamic Jihad terror cell has left the Gaza Strip and intends to infiltrate Israel through Sinai. Minister for Home Front Defense Matan Vilnai has been quoted as saying that the cell may number as many as 10 terrorists.

The security situation in southern Israel has been particularly tense following a series of terror attacks that claimed the lives of eight Israelis in mid-August; as well as several days in which Israel's western Negev communities suffered heavy shelling by Gaza Strip-based terror groups.

Following the terror attack, in which five Egyptian troops were also killed, Israel and Egypt agreed to increase the presence of Cairo troops in the Sinai Peninsula. As a result, some 1,500 Egyptian soldiers deployed across Sinai on Monday.


Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad aboard the 15th Fleet's submarine

Iran eyeing Red Sea maneuvers

Meanwhile, Iran's Press TV reported Tuesday that Tehran has decided to dispatch the 15th fleet to the Red Sea once more.

Iran's Navy Commander Rear Admiral Habibollah Sayyari told the state-run agency that the Islamic Republic is planning to send its 15th fleet to the Red Sea and the Gulf of Aden, adding that the fleet's main operational objective will be to patrol the high seas and thwart pirate raids.

The Islamic Republic's 15th fleet is comprised of a submarine and a several warships.

Sayyari noted that Iran's Navy plans to have "an active presence in the high seas in line with the guidelines of Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei with the purpose of serving the country's interests.

“The presence of Iran's army in the high seas will convey the message of peace and friendship to all countries,” he said.

Dudi Cohen, AP and AFP contributed to this report

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Here's a little gem from the United Nations concerning Liybia and Human Rights!
www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/docs/16session/A-HRC-16-15.pdf
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Syria Now Boiling   (People Have Overcome ***Fear***)

Strength in Numbers

 

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In Syria, Homs Emerges As Center Of Protest

An increasing number of Syrian soldiers are quitting the army and joining up with anti-government protesters, according to reports from the central city of Homs and surrounding towns.

Now, some wonder whether the largely peaceful movement in Homs — a center of anti-government sentiment — is gearing up for a different approach.

The turning point was April 17, when protesters staged a massive sit-in in the city at a main square marked by a clock tower.

Security forces later killed scores of people. But activists in Homs vowed to continue, turning funerals into protests and taking to the streets nearly every day.

Then the army moved in, as it had in many other cities and towns around Syria.

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A Soldier Takes Up Protesters' Cause

Hassan Abdelkarim al-Hamad was a second lieutenant. He couldn't believe what he saw.

"They brought in a bulldozer to take the bodies away. And after that they brought in big water trucks to wash away the blood. And just actually seeing this did something to me," he says.

At one point, Hamad's commander ordered him to fire at protesters. He said no.

The commander said Hamad would be transferred to the southern Syrian city of Daraa, and ordered three armed guards to go along.

"I knew that my time would come. I mean, what was the point of sending armed guards with me? They would kill me on the way, or if I said no, they would kill me now?" Hamad says.

So he went AWOL and eventually fled to northern Lebanon, just a half-hour drive from Homs. Now, he says he sneaks back into Homs nearly every day, doing whatever he can to protect the protesters.

He's coy about what, exactly, protecting the protesters means. He denies he's a member of the Syrian Free Army, a group of defectors that's led by a commander in hiding and publishes statements online.

Hamad says for now the protest movement should remain peaceful. Otherwise it will feed into the regime's narrative that the anti-government movement is actually an Islamist insurgency.

 
 
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Over 2,200 People have been killed By   Assad (Government) ________________________________________________________________________________
 
 
Iran Denies Role in Syria Crackdown
 
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Protesters burn an Iranian flag during a protest organized by Lebanese and Syrians living in Lebanon, to express solidarity with Syria's anti-government protesters, as they march in Tripoli, northern Lebanon. The protesters are opposed to Iran, which has an alliance with Syria's government of Bashar Al-Assad, (File photo July 15, 2011)

Iran's government has denied allegations it is playing a role in Syria's bloody crackdown on political opposition. But reports in the international press continue to contend that Iran is helping Syria militarily.

Iran's Foreign Ministry spokesman, Ramin Mehmanparast, said again Monday that Tehran is ''not intervening'' to help Syria's government repress its people. He described as "baseless," allegations from the European Union that the Quds Brigade of Iran's Revolutionary Guards is involved in the Syrian crackdown.

During a news conference last week, Mehmanparast urged other countries ''not to intervene in Syria's internal political crisis.''

Reports in the Arab and international press have accused both Iran and its Lebanese ally, Hezbollah, of helping Syrian authorities deal with the popular uprising.

Former Iranian President Abolhassan Bani Sadr, now an exiled opponent of Iran's government, is among those who say Iran and Hezbollah are helping Syria in the crackdown.

He says the Iranian regime is helping Syria in every possible way. He says he has information that 3,000 Iranian Revolutionary Guards and 2,200 Hezbollah fighters are working with the Syrian government. But he contends that Saudi Arabia is also intervening in Syria - on the opposition side.

Hilal Khashan, who teaches political science at the American University of Beirut, says Iran is in fact starting to distance itself from the Syrian regime, anticipating that it may fall. He notes that Iran's Foreign Minister, Ali Akbar Salehi, urged Syria last week to address its people's ''legitimate demands.''


''The fact that the Iranians are beginning to talk to the Syrians and telling the regime to accommodate the legitimate demands of the Syrian people means that they are concluding that the regime in Damascus is unsalvageable. In the long run, the regime will collapse,'' he said.

Khashan also says Iran has been trying to mend fences with the Gulf Arab states, perhaps as a prelude to a policy shift on Syria. He notes that Iran's foreign minister met with the leader of Qatar last week to discuss developments in Syria.

''The Iranians are trying to find alternatives and that's why the Iranians are trying also to mend fences with the countries of the GCC [Gulf Cooperation Council]. A few days ago, the Emir of Qatar visited Tehran and the visit had to do with the beginning of the careful shift of the Iranian position vis-a-vis Syria,'' Khashan stated.

Khashan says both Iran and neighboring Turkey are major regional power brokers, and that each country is working to change its policy toward Syria, slowly. He says it's impossible for them to change their policy 180 degrees overnight, but that ''they are preparing for it.''

 
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