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    Posted: April 01 2012 at 2:42am
     Since I initially began this thread I think I have seen how a great deal of the confusion caused by the authorities was partly to deflect from the likelihood of the current vaccine's inefficacy against the new flu strains that constitute 60% or more of the flu now circulating.  The need for these obfuscations is fortunately passing, as flu season is now running out of time and we have just past peak in the U.S.  So you are quite right, big pharma profits are now safe, so enough already!
     What remains to be seen is whether the new vaccine being made for next season will work on the new strains.  Unfortunately,  candidate vaccines are selected partially for ease of manufacture, in other words, ease of big pharma profits.   Watch out, Southern Hemisphere!
     So stay away from any last minute flu cases around you-last falls' vaccine is already obsolete, and next years was selected primarily for ease of growth in eggs.  Whether it works will be a crapshoot.
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Officials examine response to flu deaths

by KATIE FITZPATRICK, Staff writer

 

The news that three members of a Lusby family died from a severe respiratory illness spread quickly throughout Calvert County two weeks ago, inciting alarm and confusion in some residents.

On Feb. 23, Ruth Blake, 81, became sick at her home with upper respiratory symptoms. Three of her adult children, Lowell, Vanessa and Elaine, were taking care of her and also developed similar upper respiratory symptoms about Feb. 28.

All four people were hospitalized and became critically ill. Ruth Blake died at home March 1 and Lowell Blake, 58, and Vanessa Blake, 56, have since died. Elaine Blake was hospitalized at Washington Hospital Center and has since been released.

Now, reports about what may have happened to the Blake family are becoming clearer. Press releases from the county and state health departments said preliminary testing indicates the family had influenza H3, a strain of influenza A. David Rogers, health officer for the Calvert County Health Department, said Lowell and Vanessa Blake died from �very severe and unusual complications caused by the flu and he is still waiting on Ruth Blake's medical examiner's results.

Rogers said where and how the family members got the flu is speculation, but there are two known events that may have exposed Ruth Blake to the flu.

Brian W. Buck, 50, who Rogers said was related to the Blakes, was killed Feb. 25 after a 10-ton root ball of a tree fell on top of him. Rogers said Ruth Blake�s home was where the entire family gathered after Buck�s death, and if another family member had the flu, Ruth Blake may have been exposed to it then. Ruth Blake also attended a birthday party on Feb. 15 for one of her grandchildren, which is another place she may have been exposed to the flu, Rogers said.

Rogers said Ruth Blake �was not any more sick than one would expect with a mild case of the flu.� She went to her doctor and was prescribed antibiotics on Feb. 29, Rogers said, and the following day she died. Rogers said she likely died from �some complication of the flu� and the medical examiner�s results will not be available for several weeks, but �she did not die of a secondary pneumonia infection as far as we can tell right now.�

Lowell and Vanessa Blake apparently developed flu-like symptoms around the same time as their mother, Rogers said, but began to develop symptoms of a more serious respiratory infection, pneumonia, about March 2 or 3. Rogers said both Lowell and Vanessa Blake also had Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus, or MRSA, a strain of staph bacteria resistant to antibiotics.

On the morning of March 4, Lowell Blake went to CMH with pneumonia and was later transported to Washington Hospital Center where he died March 5. Rogers said he died from the pneumonia due to MRSA infection. Vanessa Blake went to CMH the evening of March 4 with pneumonia and later died the following day.

�Either one or both of them I�m assuming must have been a carrier [of MRSA] and when they got the flu, somehow [it] � may have made their respiratory system less resistant to the MRSA, which then invaded the lungs and caused fatal infections.�

Elaine Blake, who �simply had nothing more than the flu,� is also apparently a carrier of MRSA, but it is a different bacterial strain, Rogers said. Elaine Blake started having flu-like symptoms about March 2, Rogers said, and she probably got the flu from one of the other three family members.

When she went to CMH on March 5, because other family members who died had similar symptoms, hospital staff were concerned that the same thing might happen to her, so she was taken to Washington Hospital Center but later released.

Elaine Blake, the youngest of seven siblings, said she had been taking care of her mother for the last five years and is taking her death, as well as the deaths of her brother and sister, extremely hard. She said her entire family is still grieving.

�We�re still mourning,� Elaine Blake said. �It�s going to take a long time [to heal from this]. It�s something that�s not easy to just get over.�

As word of the flu death spread early this month, news reports containing different information from different press releases confused and panicked the public and rumors quickly spread. Soon, other organizations, including Calvert Memorial Hospital, Calvert County Public Schools and the Maryland Department of Health and Mental Hygiene, sent out multiple press releases at different times, all containing seemingly conflicting reports.

Elaine Blake said she thinks the media reported on different information too quickly and did not know �what really went on.� She said the media did not get the facts right and it was �very upsetting� to her and her family.

Rogers said he knows that �not everything worked perfectly� when information was being relayed. He said he realizes that the first press release sent that Monday evening was �perplexing to people,� and he and other staff members will review the situation to see how it can be handled better in the future.

�I think there are things we could�ve done better,� Rogers said. �We�re going to review the things that we did and what we can do better, particularly communicating with the media.�

Rogers said the situation became very newsworthy because three family members died at about the same time with similar symptoms, which was unusual.

�If it had just been one [person], it might not have gotten all the attention it did, but because there were two [adult children] and the mother that just died, there was a lot of concern � that we might be dealing with something very dangerous,� Rogers said. �The question was whether it posed any hazard to the community.�

Rogers said staff members worked tirelessly Tuesday, March 6, to try to reassure the community that they were not in danger and that the deaths may be coincidental.

�It was something of a coincidence that you had these three family members all die within two or three days of one another,� Rogers said.

Calvert County Public Schools issued a press release March 6 to try and quell some of the panic. The press release stated that the health and safety of the students and their families is CCPS�s primary concern. School officials said the purpose of the press release was to answer questions from parents and staff.

Bill Chambers, vice president of the school board, said the school system�s press release was geared toward trying to eliminate thoughts that school children were involved.

�I think that was the purpose of putting a release out, to try and keep folks from not assuming that there were young, school-aged children involved in that,� Chambers said.

When the incident was initially reported, because the word �family� was used, �most people would assume� that it�s a parent or guardian with children, Chambers said. The initial reports from the health department didn�t state that those affected were adult family members, Chambers said, which �naturally� caused �some concern and even mild hysteria.�

Chambers said in his �dream world� he would like for the initial reports to have included that the affected family members were adults, and because they weren�t, he believes the school system did the right thing by informing parents of the issue.

�I think the end result was to err on the side of caution and our system does a pretty good job [of that],� Chambers said. �I thought we did the right thing.�

In response to many phone calls from concerned residents, CMH issued a press release March 8 that said three members of the family had died from a strain of the flu and encouraged people to follow basic guidelines, such as washing hands, to keep from becoming ill. The press release said hospital staff was monitoring any flu-like illnesses seen in the emergency room, urgent care centers and the hospital.

James Xinis, president and CEO of CMH, in a written statement Monday said he was proud of how the hospital staff responded to the public�s concerns about the Blake family�s illnesses.

�We always follow the CDC isolation guidelines when caring for anyone with a suspected infections illness and we take precautions every day in every department to prevent the spread of infection,� Xinis said. �This situation demonstrated the extreme importance of the diligence of healthcare providers in that regard. Our infection control department identified the commonalities between the patients quickly and promptly and alerted the health department per our policy.�

The county opened the Emergency Operations Center, which marketing and communications specialist Mark Volland said was �partially opened� to monitor information and help get accurate information out to the public. Volland said representatives from CCPS, the county public information office and the health department worked together to help relay information.

�The county didn�t mobilize in any way other than to support the health department,� Volland said.

 
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Published on Tuesday 13 March 2012 12:04


Speedway star Theo Pijper today told how what he thought was a bad dose of the flu almost killed him.


The 32-year-old Dutchman said he was lucky to be alive after being rushed from his home off Willowbrae Road to the ERI coughing up blood.

Doctors then revealed that rather than flu, he had in fact contracted pneumonia.

He said: “The week it happened, my wife and two sons were suffering from flu and when I went to the doctor he told me I just had flu as well.

But when I got home from the doctor’s I went to bed at four o’clock in the afternoon because I felt so tired and four hours later I was in an ambulance on my way to hospital after I was coughing up blood.“I didn’t know what was going on, they had me in hospital right away, but once I was there, they got straight on it, because they knew what they were doing.”

Doctors told him he had sought help just in time, and he was kept in hospital for a week after his emergency admission in mid-February.

“I was told had I left it 24 hours longer my lungs would have filled up with blood and anything could have happened after that, it could easily have proved life-threatening, looking back it was so scary,” he said.

He had been told it would take up to two months for him to recover, which would have wrecked the start of his 2012 season riding with Edinburgh Monarchs.

But after recovering at home, he confounded the predictions of medics – and went against the advice of his wife – to take part in a practice session at SBLEEPhorpe last week.

He said: “My wife told me it was far too early to go to SBLEEPhorpe but I needed to know if I could do it. I did 16 laps and didn’t feel tired and I felt good afterwards and now I’m looking forward to our first meeting at Redcar.

“The medicine I got from the hospital was heavy duty stuff but I’ve finished it now. I’ve to go back for a check up just to make sure I’m all right.”

He now hopes to be fit for the Monarchs’ league cup tie at Redcar Bears next week, and is putting his near-miss behind him. “I’m still here and that’s in the past now so I don’t really want to think about anything like that too much.”

Monarchs co-promoter John Campbell said he was amazed by the rider’s resilience. “What happens with speedway riders is they dismiss all ailments and injuries and the like and carry on as if nothing has happened, so his approach doesn’t surprise me, but from being very, very seriously ill to riding a motorcycle competitively in about a week from now is quite a turnaround in about four weeks.”

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I have also been keeping my eye on this and searching for news - absolutely nothing for the last 4 days. I find that very concerning and I'm not sure why it would be so quiet, although I don't think there has been an "outbreak" or anything from this cluster. Actually, I guess they could be keeping that quiet too. Sigh.
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Originally posted by roni3470 roni3470 wrote:

Do not like it when this site is quiet.......any news?!.!?!
Sequence haven't been released from cdc, black out total of the media, no more news since 4 days ago.....
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Do not like it when this site is quiet.......any news?!.!?!
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The flu was passed from the Index Case (Mother), to her children (2 of 3 died), and spread on to a 3rd contact, most likely on the day that the Index Case died.
As was reported in the post located here:http://www.somdnews.com/article/20120309/NEWS/703099832/1074/deaths-were-from-flu&template=southernMaryland


"As of Wednesday afternoon, Ann Flanagan, supervisor for disease surveillance and response at the health department, said a Prince George’s County resident, “who was not part of the care of [the] family,” was admitted to the Washington Hospital Center for “other issues and she had developed flu like symptoms … so they’re treating her.” Flanagan said the resident was a family member of the four people, “but was not part of the care of the person who died.
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Across the street from Blake’s white Cape Cod lives a great niece. Next door to the great niece is a brother-in-law. And the next few houses in either direction are occupied by cousins of her late husband, Leroy Blake.


The Blakes’ roots run deep here. They have their own folder at the county historical society. They were among the earliest members of a nearby Methodist congregation that dates back to the end of the 19th century.

The Blakes married some of the other congregants. And the headstones in the cemetery next to Eastern United Methodist Church bear the names of those interconnected families, just as do the mailboxes that line the roads near the church.

Many members of the extended family stopped by March 1 — not long after Ruth Blake, 81, died — to be together and to pray.

A family member had asked her pastor, the Rev. Irving Beverly, to come to pray as well. Inside, he was surprised to see two sheriff’s deputies. At that point, the cause of Blake’s death was unknown.

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Flu update 5th family member hospitalized
Deaths were from flu, Testing indicates influenza H3

Three members of a Lusby family have died and another is reportedly recovering due to a severe respiratory illness that preliminary testing indicates was influenza H3, a strain of influenza A.

News of the deaths spread quickly on Tuesday and conflicting reports caused confusion and tension across the county as different agencies tried to disseminate facts about the case.

The Calvert County Health Department and the Maryland Department of Health and Mental Hygiene are investigating the deaths.

Over the last two weeks, four members of the family were admitted to the hospital for severe respiratory illnesses, which were a complication of influenza, and three of them died, according to a health department press release. Symptoms of the respiratory illness were not included in the press release, nor were the names of the victims.

According to the press release, an 81-year-old woman became sick about Feb. 23 at her home with upper respiratory symptoms. Three of her adult children, a son and two daughters, were taking care of her and also developed similar upper respiratory symptoms about Feb. 28.

All four people were hospitalized and became critically ill. The 81-year-old woman died at home March 1 and the 58-year-old son and the 56-year-old daughter have since died. The other daughter is currently hospitalized at the Washington Hospital Center and her condition is improving, the press release states.

According to the press release, preliminary testing at the DHMH Laboratories Administration indicates that all four people had influenza H3, "a strain of influenza A that has been circulating this season"Clap, and these cases were complicated by bacterial co-infections, which is a known complication of influenza infection. Additional testing is being conducted for all cases.

As of Wednesday afternoon, Ann Flanagan, supervisor for disease surveillance and response at the health department, said a Prince George’s County resident, “who was not part of the care of [the] family,” was admitted to the Washington Hospital Center for “other issues and she had developed flu like symptoms … so they’re treating her.” Flanagan said the resident was a family member of the four people, “but was not part of the care of the person who died.”

No other similar incidents have been reported from the county or elsewhere in the state, according to the website. The cause for these illnesses is under investigation and testing is being conducted by the DHMH Laboratories Administration.

Calvert Memorial Hospital received several phone calls from concerned residents, according to a CMH press release, and officials are encouraging area families to follow basic guidelines recommended during flu season, including getting vaccinated, washing hands frequently and limiting contact with sick people. Anyone with flu-like symptoms should check with a healthcare provider, the press release states.

This year’s flu season started late and is expected to stretch into late May, the press release states. Officials said they recommend people who have not received the flu vaccination yet to get one.

While the severity of illness due to the flu varies from season to season, generally very young people, adults older than 65 and people with certain medical conditions are at higher risk for developing flu-related complications, according to the press release.

Calvert County Public Schools sent out a press release Tuesday morning about the incident and said the health and safety of the students and their families is CCPS’s primary concern.

Gail Bennett, CCPS spokesperson, said no students were affected by the respiratory illness but an email alert and an electronic phone message were sent out to parents after the school system received several phone calls. She said both parents and staff members had a lot of questions and CCPS “wanted to make sure they were getting accurate information.”

Bennett said the health department was “sending out press releases but those don’t go directly to our parents or our staff, so we thought we could help disseminate their information by sending the information” to those on the email and phone message lists.

After the alerts were sent, Bennett said the school system did not receive any phone calls from panicked parents, but rather from parents who missed the phone message and wanted to know what it said.

Norma Hoffman of Lusby, said she first heard of the situation Tuesday morning after receiving an automated phone call from CCPS, but she “didn’t know what they were talking about” until she read news reports online.

“The phone call was concerning,” Hoffman said, adding that it made her think that her own two children, a 10-year-old son who attends Dowell Elementary and a 14-year-old daughter who attends Patuxent High School, were exposed to some sort of sickness.

“I think [CCPS] scared a lot of people because [the phone call] didn’t have enough information,” Hoffman said. “I just think the school’s phone call could have had a little more information.”

Huntingtown resident Tammy Marks said the daycare provider at which she drops her daughter off in the mornings told her about the situation and she later received an automated phone call from CCPS. She said the only things she could remember hearing from the phone call was “dead people and we’re on top of it.”

“It was so vague, and all it did was incite terror,” Marks said, adding that if she had not heard the news first from her daycare provider, she would have panicked.

Calvert County Board of Education President Rose Crunkleton said she had not “heard a lot of panicking” from students’ parents and she said the school system did the right thing by sending out a press release because it was already reported in the news.

“Our school system was alerting our parents so that they could hear it from the school that we hope our children are safe and we would let them know if there was anything else that we needed to do to make sure the children were safe,” Crunkleton said.

She said most people that she spoke to were saddened by three people in one family dying so suddenly.

“They were ... helping their mother and in doing that, they got sick themselves,” Crunkleton said. “It’s just really tragic.”

Lusby resident Suzanne Pucciarella said she heard about the situation Tuesday morning after a friend posted a link to a news website that had reported on the deaths. She said the information on the news site was vague and confusing, so she called the health department. Since initial reports only identified those that have died as a “family,” she said she thought children may have been involved and wanted answers.

felt that information wasn’t complete and I know that rumors can spread very quickly so I wanted to kind of cut to the chase,” Pucciarella said.

After calling the health department and speaking with two people, she said, she was relieved to hear that her own two children, her 9-year-old daughter and 11-year-old son, who attend Our Lady Star of the Sea, would not be exposed to it at school because no children were affected.

As more news outlets began reporting on the incident, Pucciarella said, information continued to become available “in bits and pieces,” which caused the public to start drawing their own conclusions.

While Pucciarella said she understands that the health department probably had a lot of phone calls and inquiries to deal with following the announcement of the deaths, she said she thinks “that things should have come out maybe in one message.” She said different newspapers and radio and television stations were all giving different information.

Part of the reason Pucciarella said she thought there were conflicting news reports was because “people are using different resources.” Many news reports she has read have listed different ages for the victims and even a different number of victims, she said.

“The numbers were all messed up and there were just a lot of different pieces that were confusing,” Pucciarella said. “There’s so many ‘maybes,’ so many things that they didn’t tell us.”

Pucciarella said this is a good lesson “for us to realize that we need to get the message across a little bit better.”

In a press release sent Monday from the health department, officials initially reported that five people were affected by a severe respiratory illness and that four people had died. An updated press release was sent out Tuesday stating that an 81-year-old woman and three of her children had become critically ill with upper respiratory symptoms, and three of those people had later died.

David Rogers, health officer for the health department, said the first press release was sent out stating that five people were affected “because it was believed there were five.” The second press release was sent out stating only four people were affected because “it was determined that there were only four.”

Dan Williams, deputy health officer for the health department, said officials tried to get accurate information out as quickly as possible.

“We were trying to get information out as quickly as possible and as we refined the numbers that’s how we adjusted,” Williams said. “We wanted to make sure we got information out as accurate as we could early in the investigation.”

He said the press releases that were issued Wednesday contained accurate information.

Calvert County Commissioners’ President Gerald W. “Jerry” Clark (R) said he felt the health department and county handled the situation as well as it could have and blamed wrong information on social media like Facebook and Twitter.

“Unfortunately we don’t have any control over rumors or misinformation put out at the street level,” he said, which is why he said the board read correct, updated information to the public at the start of its Tuesday meeting. “I’m not sure there was any other better way it could have been handled.”

Clark said county emergency management staff opened the Emergency Operations Center to coordinate information being relayed between the hospital, health department and public, and to make sure responders were ready in case another instance of the illness cropped up.

“It’s a sad situation,” he said. “We won’t know the whole story on it for a while now, I think.”

Commissioner Susan Shaw (R) also attributed Facebook misuse to Tuesday’s panic.

“If people would just wait until they get it right, it would be helpful,” she said of those who posted updates online, some of whom included unofficial names of the victims.

“Until we get an official word everybody needs to calm down. People need to start respecting other people’s privacy.”
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Flu Infections And MRSA Deaths In Maryland

Sad news out of Maryland, and a reminder of how devastating MRSA, methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus, can be when it combines with flu infection. According to the Maryland Department of Health and Mental Hygiene, the Washington Post and ProMED, five members of a family have fallen ill and three have died from MRSA pneumonia that took hold in lungs inflamed by flu infection.

The dead are Ruth Blake, 81, and her children Lowell, 58, and Vanessa, 56. Another child, Elaine, also fell ill and was hospitalized, and Ruth Blake’s sister has been hospitalized also. They had all contracted one of the seasonal flu strains circulating this year: H3N2. According to the Post, Ruth Blake was vaccinated against flu this season; her children were not. The assumption is that both flu and MRSA spread from the mother to the children.

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Calvert health officials said in a statement Wednesday that the cases were isolated to a single family and that “there are currently no other affected individuals.” Local health-care providers, they said, are not reporting any significant increase in patients with flulike symptoms.

David Rogers, the county’s health officer, said health officials suspect that Blake also had the flu and then suffered a serious lung infection that turned into pneumonia.

“In older people, that can often be fatal,” he said.

Blake had a flu shot, he said. None of the others were vaccinated.

What’s unusual, he said, is that the infection spread from the mother to three children, probably at her bedside. Most likely, the mother’s coughing spread the virulent organisms into the air, and her caregivers, two of whom also had the flu, breathed them in and became infected, he said. (Byline: Annys Shin and Lena H. Sun)

MRSA pneumonia is fast-acting and lethal; it is often called “necrotizing pneumonia” for the way it simply kills lung tissue. Exactly why it has that effect is still disputed — MRSA has so many cellular toxins at its disposal that there could be a number of culprits — but there is no dispute that it is a very serious disease.

MRSA post-flu pneumonia isn’t well-understood because it has been a concern only recently. The first cases to alert the United States this might be a problem were in Baltimore in the flu season of 2003-04. The four patients were all seen at Johns Hopkins University Medical Center, and physicians there wrote the cases up afterward. Over two months, there was a 31-year-old woman who was in the hospital for four weeks; MRSA ate holes in her lung, the largest of which was 1 by 1.5 inches. Two other women, 20 and 33 years old, were each hospitalized for three months. The 20-year-old’s heart stopped, and her blood clotting grew so disordered that doctors had to amputate one leg below her knee; the 33-year-old lost both lower legs. The fourth patient was a 52-year-old man, a two-pack-a-day smoker, who died.

Other reports came into the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention over the course of that flu season. When the CDC counted up the following summer, there had been 15 cases of severe MRSA pneumonia in 9 states. Four of them died. CDC personnel wrote another article warning of the dangers of MRSA and flu two years later, after clusters of cases in Louisiana and Georgia during the 2006-07 flu season. They said: “Secondary S. aureus pneumonia is a potentially catastrophic complication of influenza… MRSA [community-acquired pneumonia] often affects young, otherwise healthy persons and can be rapidly fatal.”

Pneumonia that follows on flu is a seriously under-appreciated danger of flu infection: An analysis from 2010 points out that, in 2007, there were 457 deaths from flu in the US and 52,847 deaths from post-flu pneumonia. There is no reliable way to protect yourself against MRSA, since there is no vaccine, and the bacterium can live on the skin undetected for an unpredictable period of time. Hypothetically, if you prevent flu infection you lessen the likelihood of this pneumonia occurring — but as the mother’s case illustrates, flu vaccine doesn’t confer perfect protection, especially not in the elderly whose immune systems are not robust enough to begin with.

It’s a very sad story, and another illustration of how perilous and destructive MRSA can be.

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Well this is good news.   I will admit that this is the first time i've ever heard of a cluster of co-infection deaths.  The flu had an infection rate of 100% as well as MRSA had an infection rate of 100%, and at the same time.  Truly an unusual event. 
 
Overall it's good news. 
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US HHS Contracts for H3N2v Vaccine Clinical Trials

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 "HHS has contracted with pharmaceutical companies Novartis and Sanofi Pasteur to develop investigational lots of the vaccine. Novartis will produce its supply using cell-culture technology at its plant in Holly Springs, North Carolina, and Sanofi Pasteur will grow the vaccine in chicken eggs (a slower method of production) at its plant in Swiftwater, Pennsylvania.

The influenza virus being targeted is a variant of the A(H3N2) virus found in pigs".

The above
comments describe preparations for spring clinical trials for an H3N2v pandemic vaccine.  These developments are not a surprise.  In August the CDC released sequences of vaccine constructs of A/Minnesota/11/2010, which was followed by a WHO September 29, 2011 report on vaccines, showing that the sera against the above target was effective against the first H3N2pdm11 isolate, A/Indiana/08/2011.
 
Although December media reports cited the creation of a seed vaccine, the real drivers for the clinical trials were the H3N2pdm11
cluster at the daycare center in Iowa, followed by the trH3N2 sustained cluster in the daycare center in Mineral County, West Virginia (which has a novel N2 which has acquired seasonal polymorphisms via recombination.

The West Virginia cluster was
alarming, with 23/70 contacts of the index case exhibiting ILI (influenza-like illness), which led to a CDC request to all states to increase surveillance, especially in children.  Multiple states issued advisories or alerts, including Marin County, California, which also cited a new H3N2v case in a Napa county resident in its week 50 report.

Today the CDC published the December 23 early release MMWR, which described the West Virginia cluster, which made it clear that transmission was sustained for a month at the daycare center, but failed to note that 23 contacts had ILI.  In December the CDC also held a 50 state conference call.

An explosion of H3N2v
cases and clusters is expected this month.
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     The latest, more specific analysis is supposed to come from CDC in a few days.  Below they now claim methicillin resistant/MRSA caused the deaths, after H3N2 (current vaccine- matching) flu.  However, the CDC is the organisation helping to choose the upcoming vaccine for 2012-2013 Northern Hemishere, where the diverse authorities have conspicuosly passed over H3N2v test strains in favor of some irrelevant strain from Asia.  I have always felt that the first priority of those choosing the vaccine strain was ease of manufacture and therefore guaranteed profits for Big-Pharma.  The fact the new vaccine may not protect anyone is of less importance. 
     Thus if the CDC admits that this new event involves H3N2v, they have to admit they are now manufacturing a vaccine that will be useless except to drug manufacturer's profits. 
 
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Or am I just being cynical?   Below is the latest from USA Today              Best to All, John L.
 

Officials: Maryland family's flu tragedy was unusual

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Updated 1h ago

A tragedy that played out in Maryland, where three members of one family died of influenza-related complications, is unusual, public health officials say.

Four members of the Blake family, in the town of Lusby, Md., had a serious lung infection that was a complication of seasonal flu, according to David Rogers, a health officer with the Calvert County Health Department.

According to the health department, Lou Ruth Blake, 81, developed "respiratory symptoms" around Feb. 23. A son and two daughters took care of her at home, and around Feb. 28, they also developed symptoms. Blake died at home on March 1. Her three children were hospitalized after that and two of them -- a son, 58, and a daughter, 56 -- passed away.

The lung infection, which is believed to be methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA), was isolated and there are currently no other affected individuals, health officials say. "Local health care providers are not reporting any significant increase in patients with flu-like symptoms," they say.

This year's flu season has thus far been very mild, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has reported. Only now, in what's a late start, are cases beginning to pick up around the country and they're still low compared with heavy flu years.

While it's in the nature of influenza to infect people who are in close contact, three fatalities among one family is rare, CDC officials say.

The family is believed to have had the H3N2 strain of flu, which has been circulating in the U.S. for more than two years and has been in the flu vaccine for the past two years. H3N2 can be particularly dangerous for the elderly.

However it wasn't the strain of the flu they had that killed them. What was deadly in this case, and what health officials always worry about, are co-infections. CDC officials believe that all three had MRSA. It's the type of staph bacteria that causes boils. But it can also get in the lungs or the blood stream and cause dangerous infections. People who have the flu can be more susceptible to these infections. "You're sick with the flu virus and that can make you more susceptible to an infection from this really nasty bacteria that can make you really sick pretty quickly," says CDC's Tom Skinner.

According to Skinner, Maryland is sending specimens from the autopsies on all three family members, which should arrive today, and CDC will be able to confirm exactly what happened "hopefully within a few days."

It is common for people who have so-called comorbidities such as asthma, diabetes, cancer, heart disease or infections, to get much sicker -- and even die -- from the flu than healthy individuals. CDC is aware that people who have antibiotic-resistant staph or MRSA are at higher risk as well.

A question and answer page on CDC's website says "the overall risk of developing an MRSA infection after influenza appears to be very low. However, CDC continues to work with state and local public health authorities to better understand this association."

What is unusual is that all three family members were infected with MRSA, which weakened their immune systems enough that they couldn't fight off the flu.

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it was Pensilvania that the kids at the Ag. show first got  H3N2 last year Aug/sept
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Look this comments 2 days ago:
darleen Clark on March 6, 2012 at 9:56 pm


"My 33 year old sister died on Tuesday morning in BWMC (old North Arundel) she got sick over the weekend was coughing up blood by Monday and died 4:30 am Tuesday. Hospital said it was pneumonia. but It happened so fast. sounds just like what these people had".
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It seems the Viral part of this is intentionally being down-played. Most everything I have read is directing attention toward the bacterial side of the cases being the problem.  the last link posted by issapharma had the most in depth information I have seen to date. they should already have confirmation on MRSA, its been almost a week why are they still speculating. I understand the virus need to be sequenced probably by the CDC but even that should be either finished or close to being finshed.
WHY ARE WE GETTING SPECULATIONS ????
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Her is a portion of the 2 page article:

What's unusual, he said, is that the infection spread from the mother to three children, probably at her bedside.

Most likely, the mother's coughing spread the virulent organisms into the air, and her caregivers, two of whom also had the flu, breathed them in and became infected, he said.

Rogers said the staph infection was probably one of the most virulent strains, methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA).

MRSA is a strain of the bacterium normally treated with common antibiotics in the penicillin family, such as methicillin. Antibiotic-resistant strains of the organism, however, have been turning up increasingly in places outside health-care settings.

"If you get pneumonia with a MRSA staph organism, which we think is what happened here, and if it was transmitted to somebody else, that organism is almost impossible to treat with antibiotics," he said.

He said it was important to emphasize that the illnesses were isolated to one family and that family members were in close contact. "It is not a cause for widespread community alarm," he said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/5th-calvert-family-member-at-hospital/2012/03/07/gIQAYZYFxR_story_1.html

 
 
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In 2009, I have made a child size mask ( protection N95 ), dont hesitate to contact me if it turned out badly! ( Kid-mask.com )
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Current vaccine version won't do much for low reactors (drift variants or H3N2v).
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The transmission threat is still relatively high as that surviving family member who is still in the hospital is sheding the virus, which generally lasts for 7 days.  Let's hope a nurse or doctor doesn't take the new bug home as she is not quarantined whatsoever.   The virus could spread significantly from her if they're not careful.
 
issapharma - i agree that it probably wouldn't be within their best interest to announce this new mutant flu, but they won't have a choice.  There are too many sites such as this one that are following it closely.  They won't have a choice.   
 
 
 
 
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I read about the other death - about 40 miles away from the family cluster. No reports showing up on the internet of any new infections or clusters in the area as of this morning. Hopefully whatever it was (bacterial, viral or a combination) dead ended with the Calvert family.
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Your English is fine . I tend to agree with you concerning the CDC. It will only be through vigilance by "civilians" such as the participants on this board will people know anything.
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Three days ago, I have find an other strange news in Maryland, 45 miles from calvert county:
 
HYATTSVILLE, Md. (WUSA) -- On Monday, an emotional memorial service was held for a rising football star who died suddenly after complaining of chest problems this weekend.

Rico Webb was called "the gentle giant." The 6'7," 365 pound offensive lineman stood out as a powerhouse on the field, but was kind and mild-mannered in the hallways of Dematha High School where his classmates remembered him in tears and in laughs.

Classmate Lindell Fulsom said in tears during the memorial service for Webb, "Don't hide your love for somebody 'cause you never know when they'll be gone..."

Teammate Jason Dillon shared a memory that made the crowd laugh: "Sophmore year he got into a fight...it wasn't a massive fight or anything but it was big enough that it got a crowd around and it was pretty funny. This was right before practice. Coach...made him and James walk around for about 45 minutes. They walked around the entire field holding hands."

The high school senior left school Saturday with some flu-like symptoms. Later that night he complained of chest pains and died at the hospital...
 
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Thanks,
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THIS "H3" is certainly a new MUTATION more virulent of the flu A, but I do not think whether it is in their interest ( CDC ) to inform the public about it.


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Hi and welcome issapharma,that was the article I read. I'm trying to keep a time line here. It just remains to be seen just how or if this develops.Given the family's position in the community there was probably a large funeral for both the index case and the nephew. I sincerely hope that I am way off base here but the implications are terrifying.
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Withheld Maryland Death Cluster Data Raises H3N2v Concerns
******** Commentary 15:00
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Testing by the DHMH Laboratories Administration has confirmed that two of the cases had Influenza H3, a strain of Influenza A that has been circulating this season.

The above
comment from the DHMH press release updating the Calvert County, Maryland death cluster is carefully worded and does not say that the H3 is seasonal H3N2, and may in fact be H3 from H3N2v.  The state labs can only do PCR testing, which can produce a pattern (seasonal H3 and H1N1pdm NP positive) that is suggestive of H3N2v, but confirmation requires sequencing (which is done by the CDC).
 
Although there have not been any reported H3N2v cases in 2012, the second case in Indiana, the two cases in Maine, the three cases in Iowa, and the two cases in West Virginia were all from H3N2v circulating this season (and thus H3N2v has an H3 that has been circulating this season).

******** requested (via phone discussions and detailed e-mails sent yesterday morning) a clarification on PCR and/or sequencing result, and
neither DHMH nor the CDC has responded at this time. 

This failure to respond has increased concerns that the influenza H3 cited above is in fact H3 from H3N2v.

A response to the above written requests, as well as release of sequence data from isolates from the above cluster, would be useful.

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Growing H3  Maryland Death Cluster Raises Concerns
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"We don't yet know what this is about," Orlowski said. "She has a fever and a cough. They were all together at a funeral last week. Individuals could easily have caught the flu–a large gathering of people, hugging, consoling, possibly sharing a meal."

"If the individuals had the flu at that time it is quite likely that others are showing signs of the flu," says Orlowski. 'If I was in that family and felt ill, I would seek medical attention early."

The above
comments strongly suggest that the sister of the index case (81F) for the Calvert County, Maryland cluster is also infected by the H3 confirmed in her sister, nieces, and nephew.  This case raises serious concerns about the Calvert County announcement of no new cases or clusters, which appears to be dependent on lab confirmation and thus, is ignoring symptomatic contacts, include the above hospitalized case. 

Moreover, the above case has fever in cough, in contrast to media reports
claiming that the only symptom upon hospitalization was fever.

Moreover, the funeral cited above is almost certainly the
March 3 funeral (in Lusby) for a nephew, who was killed while falling a neighbor’s tree, also in Lusby.  Thus, the transmission chain appears to be active, and new cases should be developing symptoms this week.

More information on cases under investigation would be useful, as would detail on the H3 testing (which has been
withheld), including full sequences for all eight gene segments.

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The family members would have had two opportunities to be exposed. First at the nephew's funeral and then one of the other family members was also buried.
The link above is to the funeral home website.

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I just read on another site that the members of the family attended a funeral on March 3 for a nephew. Clearly this may still be an active chain of transmission.Just watch and wait.
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Originally posted by Albert Albert wrote:

Welcome to the forum issapharma.  That's good information and glad to have you here. 
 
 
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Welcome to the forum issapharma.  That's good information and glad to have you here. 
 
 
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If it is bacterial and not viral, it's a really quick killer and spreads easily. Giving them the benefit of the doubt and assuming no cover up, it could be that what we're seeing is the bacteria going systemic and causing sepsis, which would possibly present as respiratory distress with pink, frothy sputum. That may explain the reports of the siblings coughing blood on arrival at the hospital. Still not sure we should be pinning all the blame on a bacterial infection though, especially as they were confirmed with influenza A.
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Hi, I'm news here from Paris,
 
LenaSun wrote:
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"This is Lena Sun, the reporter who's been writing about the health aspects of this story. To answer many of your questions--which are good!--Ruth Blake DID have a seasonal flu vaccine, according to David Rogers, the Calvert County health officer. None of the others were vaccinated, he said. This year the flu season has gotten off to a late start. All the health officials I've talked to are urging folks to get a flu shot if they haven't done so already".

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Hi Anon! long time no talk.  Good to see you. 
 
Mahshadin - I agree.  They should also know by now which h3 strain we're dealing with. If it was the regular seasonal h3n2, they could detect it quickly, and they would be fast to mention it. They could the also rule out a mutant swine flu or variant and could search for other factors. Since they're not mentioning regular seasonal h3n2, it leaves little doubt that it's a mutant flu, h3n2v.  
 
h3n2v is my guess, and they're hesitant on mentioning that a mutant flu has emerged. 
 
Jacksdad- good point.  Although if it is a new severe flu that hasn't quite gained efficient transmission, it still won't bode well for the future, and knowing that a new deadly flu is here to stay,  even via limited transmission.  This situation is about to spark A LOT of concern when they announce it.
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It seems implausible that they can not find out what kind of staff infection it is. It has been almost a week, they should know and yet all that is said in the releases is the doctor calling it a (Super Infection). What the BLANK kind of medical terminolgy is that. At most it would take around 3 days to find out exactly what it is and faster tests are less than 24 hours.
 
Sounds to me like this is being massaged by PR people, total lack of quality information!!!
 
 
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Still getting a lot of contradictions and conflicting stories. The victim's sister was described as being admitted for a fever but showing no other flu like symptoms, but fever is a defining symptom for flu, and now she has a cough. I guess the next few days will let us know if this is going anywhere, given the incubation period it seemed to show in the mother and siblings. What's the odds of the family not leaving the house to get supplies while they were caring for their mother? If it's still adapting and requires prolonged, close contact then we may be okay. Going to the store and running errands might not be enough for the virus to spread, but with the continued mention of the strain being "seasonal" that might not be the case. It may already be able to spread easily, but mutating to a higher mortality rate. We should get comfy, expect some more twists and turns before the truth outs, and keep our fingers crossed.
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Wasn't there a bird die off about a month ago in that general area? If memory serves me properly there was a very similar incident in Australia a few years ago, bird die off then several months later a very virulent round of flu went about.
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Not sure i ever mentioned this to you all.  Should this flu bug be h3n2v, or should h3n2v ever emerge, we can expect an uptick in traffic.  We launched h3n2v.org a few months ago with the purpose of redirecting people here.  Since it's the only h3n2v site currently on the net, it's already within the top 3 listings on google and yahoo. 
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Maryland flu deaths mysterious

Posted: Mar 8, 2012 8:56 AM by Sandra Young (CNN)

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(CNN) -- The Calvert County investigation into the flu deaths of 3 family members in Lusby, Maryland, found two of them--a 58 year-old brother and his 56-year-old-sister died of serious lung infections, a complication of seasonal flu.

The CDC already has confirmed the siblings died of influenza A. The strain is still unknown. Their 81-year-old mother, who was being cared for by her three children died at home Thursday of complications from the flu. The surviving sibling, a 51-year-old woman, remains in guarded condition at MedStar Washington Hospital Center in Washington, D.C., where she is responding to treatment.

Dr. David Rogers, Health Officer of Calvert County, says the investigation into the flu deaths of the three family members in Lusby, Maryland, is continuing. Rogers told CNN while unusual, these were isolated cases and the community at large should not be overly concerned or alarmed.

"This is extremely rare. I think what happened here is that we had an elderly woman who got flu, then she suffered a complication of flu, a severe bacterial pneumonia. Three kids came to provide bedside care and came in close contact. They may not only have caught flu from her but the serious lung infection that she had." Rogers said. "This is a very isolated situation where you have four people in a home, in close contact. This happens not infrequently in elderly people."

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates 90% of seasonal flu related deaths and more than 60% of flu related hospitalizations in the United States each year are in people 65 or older.

The sister of the deceased 81-year old woman is now also being treated for flu like symptoms at MedStar Washington Hospital Center.

Dr. Janis Orlowski, Senior Vice President and Chief Medical Officer at MedStar Washington Hospital Center, says the woman was admitted last night and is in fair condition.

"We don't yet know what this is about," Orlowski said. "She has a fever and a cough. They were all together at a funeral last week. Individuals could easily have caught the flu--a large gathering of people, hugging, consoling, possibly sharing a meal."

"If the individuals had the flu at that time it is quite likely that others are showing signs of the flu," says Orlowski. 'If I was in that family and felt ill, I would seek medical attention early."

Orlowski also treated the brother, who passed away at the hospital Monday night.

She says the bacterial infection they had was a staphylococcal (staph) infection, which she calls a super infection. Cultures on the surviving sister are not back yet. The source of the staph is still unknown, but Orlowski says the bacteria is naturally on the body. On skin, in the nose. Most people, she says, don't catch it from someone else.

"The question is did the mother have the staph where it went to the hands of the children and they got infected or did each end up becoming super infected with their own bacteria and we don't know the answer to that. It's likely we will never know."

And rare enough that they looked for other sources.

"We did look for poison, carbon monoxide in the house, did they all ingest something?" Orlowski asks. "It's astonishingly rare, such that we are all looking that other explanations."

Orlowski says over the last several days the hospital emergency room filled with nearly 400 patients. Most had chronic illnesses like heart failure, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) and liver disease made worse by a bout of flu.

"It's flu season in the mid-Atlantic area so I urge the public to get vaccinated if you have not been, wash your hands, and if you are ill, don't go to school or work. We don't want you to spread the illness."

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Well since we know it's H3, there are only a few possibilities.
 
H3N2v, H3N1  or.....  we know that the New England seal deaths last December was caused by a highly lethal strain of H3N8.   Let's hope it didn't make the leap to humans. 
 
Although, h3n2v is the frontrunner.  
 
 
 
 
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"The Calvert County Department of Health (CCDH) said in a statement today that initial tests on two of the four family members suggest that the serious respiratory infection suffered by all four is a complication of seasonal flu. "

"Health officials so far haven't released any information on what type of staph infection the patients had."
 
 
They have not mentioned MRSA, but a staph infection as a complication to this flu.  Now what type of flu can spark a staph infection that kills in less than 5 days?  This is a real serious complication to this flu. 
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MSRA scary !!!!!!!!!!!!!! ,this is a drug  resistant form of staph,my farther in law died of it, a few years ago.
 
MRSA is a strain of the bacterium normally treated with common antibiotics in the penicillin family, such as methicillin. Antibiotic-resistant strains of the organism, however, have been turning up increasingly in places outside health-care settings.

“If you get pneumonia with a MRSA staph organism, which we think is what happened here, and if it was transmitted to somebody else, that organism is almost impossible to treat with antibiotics,” he said.

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US: Maryland tests confirm flu, bacterial co-infections in family case cluster
Mar 7, 2012 (CIDRAP News) - Lab tests conducted by the Maryland Department of Health and Mental Hygiene (MDHMH) have revealed that two patients in a family cluster of four severe respiratory disease cases had the seasonal H3 influenza strain, complicated by bacterial co-infections, the department announced today.

State authorities and their colleagues in Calvert County have been investigating a cluster of severe respiratory illnesses that led to the deaths of an 81-year-old woman from Lusby and two adult children who cared for her after she got sick and until she died on Mar 1. Another of the woman's daughters is hospitalized with similar symptoms.

More lab testing and an investigation into the cases are ongoing, the MDHMH said in a press release. The release did not specify which two patients the flu confirmation pertained to.

The Calvert County Department of Health (CCDH) said in a statement today that initial tests on two of the four family members suggest that the serious respiratory infection suffered by all four is a complication of seasonal flu. It said a fourth family member is still hospitalized at MedStar Washington Hospital Center and is improving.

The elderly woman's 58-year-old son was treated at the same hospital, where he died on Mar 5, and his 51-year-old sister is receiving care, after first being treated at Calvert Memorial Hospital, the Washington Post reported yesterday. Their 56-year-old sister also died on Mar 5.

Janis Orlowski, MD, chief medical officer with MedStar Washington Hospital Center, told the Post yesterday that the siblings who died had influenza A infections, along with serious Staphylococcus (staph) infections that they likely acquired before they were hospitalized, given that they arrived with fever, aches, cough, and shortness of breath.

Health officials so far haven't released any information on what type of staph infection the patients had. Tom Skinner, a spokesman for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), told CIDRAP News that the CDC is expecting to receive some samples to test, and results will be shared with state and local officials first. Continued: http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/cidr...
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5th Calvert family member at hospital

By Lena H. Sun, Wednesday, March 7, 11:00 AM

A fifth member of the Calvert County family stricken by serious lung infections and complications of flu is at MedStar Washington Hospital Center for evaluation, a spokeswoman said Wednesday. Three family members have died in the past week.

The newest person to come under medical attention is the sister of Lou Ruth Blake, 81. Blake died at her home in Lusby on March 1. The sister has a fever but does not appear to have other flulike symptoms, the spokeswoman said.

Blake’s son, 58, and one daughter, 56, died Monday after they were hospitalized with upper respiratory symptoms. They had been taking care of their mother.

A second daughter, 51, who had also been a caregiver, is improving and is likely to be moved out of intensive care some time Wednesday, according to hospital spokeswoman So Young Pak.

Hospital officials said tests confirmed that the siblings who died had a strain of the influenza A virus and each also acquired a serious staph infection before they were hospitalized. The two developed severe bacterial pneumonia, which is not uncommon in people infected with the flu virus. The flu virus weakens and damages the lungs, and infection develops when bacteria invade.

Calvert County health officials said in a statement Wednesday that the cases were isolated to a single family and “there are currently no other affected individuals.” They said local health-care providers are not reporting any significant increase in patients with flulike symptoms.

Calvert County health officials have also been testing inside Blake’s home to determine whether there are additional substances there that could have contributed to the illnesses.

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What are the odds that this is contained to this one family??
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     Many questions, but few answers thus far.  We have now learned that it was an H3 flu.  But which one, the Perth variety in the vaccine, or an H3N2v vaccine resistant variant?  And was it the flu that killled these people, or instead their secondary infection?
     Most of all will this stay isolated, or is it beginning to show up further?
 
 
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Flu Strain Identified in 2 Calvert County Deaths

Flu strain among those circulating this season

By Tim Persinko
|  Wednesday, Mar 7, 2012  |  Updated 3:43 PM EST
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A health worker leaves the Lusby home of an 81-year-old woman who died from respiratory illness on March 1.

Lab testing identified the same strain of influenza in two of the three victims who died with respiratory sickness last week in Calvert County.

The county's health department has been investigating a cluster of illnesses that led to three deaths in Lusby, MD, near the Calvert Cliffs nuclear facility.

The Maryland Department of Health and Mental Health said on Wednesday afternoon that Influenza H3, a strain of Influenza A that has been circulating this season, was found in two of the cases. 

The department said in both cases, bacterial co-infections, a known complication of flu infection, also contributed to the victims' deaths.

An 81-year-old woman was the first to fall sick, in late February.  The woman's three adult children, two daughters and a son, traveled to her home to care for her.  Subsequently, they became sick as well with similar symptoms.  The mother and two of her children died in the first week of March.

On Monday afternoon, a team wearing hazardous material suits from the Maryland Department of Health and Mental Hygiene entered the home of the 81-year-old to collect samples.  The Maryland Health Department, Maryland Emergency Management, and the Calvert County Health Department say they are continuing a coordinated investigation.

Currently, Maryland public health officials say there are no other clusters of severe respiratory illnesses like this case elsewhere in the state.  The flu season is expected to stretch into late May.

 
 
 
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First thing that struck me was that it sounded like a cytokine storm, Albert. Hopefully it's contained because whatever it is, it's clearly already H2H with a 75% CFR if the remaining family member survives.
 
This is how it starts. Fingers crossed it's not this outbreak.
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