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    Posted: August 18 2012 at 6:38am
Not only is an H5N1 influenza pandemic imminent, we have to prepare for a Global Depression worse than the 1930s.

According to Kondratieff, the only way out of a Depression is a Global War.

We're all in the same boat. At least we have been prepping.


The perfect storm is the real fiscal cliff that we’re going to go over.  The real fiscal cliff is when we can’t borrow any more money because our creditors wake up to the fact that we’re no good for the debt and interest rates start to rise.  

They (interest rates) rise sharply and then we have to choose between default and collapse, or runaway inflation.  That’s really the perfect storm and unfortunately we are sailing right in to it.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/peter-schiff-perfect-storm-2012-8#ixzz23tji0JVT
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Nouriel Roubini: Three ETFs For Dr. Doom’s “Perfect Storm”

Dr. Doom has diagnosed the global economy once again, except this time the symptoms are pointing to something far worse than many pessimists could have expected. Nouriel Roubini, perhaps best known for predicting the 2008 financial meltdown, recently outlined his forecast for 2013, which looks to be centered around a towering list of uncertainties. He made his prediction for the “Perfect Storm” back in May of 2012, citing a combination of four factors that would inevitably lead to the next great collapse [see also 4 Commodities To Buy Before Roubini's Perfect Storm].

Roubini predicted that slowing growth in the United States, growing debt troubles in Europe, a slowdown in China, and intensifying political gridlock with Iran would come together to create a “Perfect Storm” for the world economy. The frightening thing is that all of the cited factors are in fact slowly coming together. The United States has been dealing with mixed economic reports from both the labor and housing markets, while lawmakers in Europe have yet to embark on a comprehensive plan to bring unity and stability to the currency bloc [see also Simple (But Effective) Safe Haven ETFdb Portfolio ETFdb%20Pro%20Members%20Only].

http://etfdailynews.com/2012/08/07/nouriel-roubini-three-etfs-for-dr-dooms-perfect-storm-gltr-off-pbj/

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I know where America stands regarding her debt, but where is Australia?
 
I've never heard what your debt is. It can't be anywhere near what ours is. Our debt to GDP ratio just reached 100% and Ol' Zer0's doubled down on generating *MORE* debt as if what we'd had before wasn't enough.
 
I'm aware that if America's economy takes a big hit, the world's going to be in for it, but I figure that Australia's become a big enough player, but is still separate enough that if you're not invested too much you could survive.
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Under our Socialist Government - the Gillard Labor Government, Government debt has increased. Having said that it is still small compared to other nations.

The problem here is private debt, where people have borrowed to buy into the Housing Bubble here, which is the worst in the world, and only now just beginning to rupture.

Australia is a "One trick Pony" because our saving grace has been exporting minerals to China, but China is a Bubble and it has now burst, so our exports to China and our Mining Boom is now a thing of the past.

So because we bought into the Housing Bubble, personal debt is a major issue and people have been deleveraging - paying off debt - when the China Bubble allowed it.

But its not enough. Now the game has changed and we are catching up to the rest of the world - ruin.

Obama got very bad advice from corrupt advisers, its as simple as that. Larry Summers is his chief economic adviser. Under Dubya, Hank Paulson was calling the shots and he was the honcho of Goldman Sachs when they were plundering America with Subprime loans.

Australia is a small player, we have 22 million people here, our economy is not a major player, and we are in serious trouble as well.

But the USA and China are No1 and 2 global economies, and the USA is the leader and I am appalled by the greed and corruption that has with reckless abandon destroyed the global economy.

So now we get a Depression worse than the 1930s, and then we get a Global war worse than World War Two.

Oh and a pandemic.


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Please do not think for a moment, that my criticism of the greed and corruption in the US that has visited ruination on the global economy means that I dislike the USA.

It is not true, not even a little bit. I am angry at the criminal behaviour and the lawlessness that has allowed this ruin to take place.

I am angry that the USA has no rule of law, and no prudential regulation and supervision. I am very angry in fact.

But please understand I am angry as a member of the family.

Were I a citizen of the USA I would be even angrier, and I would try and do something about the lawlessness and corruption there.

Only you can do that, and it will not happen until such time as people get angry there and demand change and reform there to end the corruption and bring the wrong doers to account.

Again, I would urge you to watch Inside Job, and show it to your friends, and organise yourselves to get reform to your legal system, to introduce the rule of law.

As the Depression takes over, and it is even worse than the 1930s, perhaps the wisdom that prevailed after the Great Depression will reintroduce reforms such as were introduced after the Great Depression to protect your people from the "Robber Barons"..

"It's a Wall Street Government".

Is it? I understood it was a government of the people for the people and by the people.

It can't be both.


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Australia's Debt can be found here.  Hopefully, this is accurate.
 
 
Take a look at Ireland!  It is still growing!
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Originally posted by Elver Elver wrote:

Australia's Debt can be found here.  Hopefully, this is accurate.
 
 
Take a look at Ireland!  It is still growing!
 
LOL, I think Ireland's going to eventually just say, "HAHA Screw you Europeans!" and go back to the Pound and declare bankruptcy.
 
The other PIIGS aren't going to be far behind.
 
I don't know how much longer we'll be able to keep this up. Probably until we have to turn the money presses off. The problem with trying to inflate our way out of messes like we have been doing is that it never actually gets us out. Every dollar we print costs us almost as much as the dollar is worth extra in inflation and other assorted scams. (And much of that value goes into the pockets of the people Kilt talks about)
 
The Europeans are absolutely freaking out over Greece, Italy and France and haven't even begun to think about what's going on in Ireland, and now China's taking a dump too.
 
China has been keeping their people afloat with BS busywork jobs. How many uninhabited cities have they built and are planning to this year alone? They are trying to inflate their way out of a mess too, just by different means.
 
This could get interesting.
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Originally posted by Turboguy Turboguy wrote:

China has been keeping their people afloat with BS busywork jobs. How many uninhabited cities have they built and are planning to this year alone? They are trying to inflate their way out of a mess too, just by different means.
 
 
Very true, TG. China's been desperately trying to come up with things to make it's workforce look busy for a while now. And they're heading for a demographic nightmare when the "one child" policy leaves them with too few young workers supporting an aging population. Perfect storm brewing.
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The trouble is the PIIGS which are Portugal, Italy, Ireland, Greece and Spain are sunk, but so too is the rest of Europe.

Ireland with a nation of only 3 million people or so is losing its young people who are leaving in droves every week for a better life overseas. Its the Potato Famine all over again.

Only old people will be left in Ireland, and they cannot pay the debt.

Greece is in a Depression but it looks like the whole world will soon be in a Depression.

It all came from the Housing Bubble and the Subprime fiasco. It all came from America.


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This guy says they know what they are doing. As in all done on purpose.
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I am going to get more ammo. For two reasons, first if TSHTF I want to make sure I have plenty, second if Obama is re-elected he will try and stop ammo sales.

LOL, I have so much #10 can food now I am going to clear out and arrange my food storage bins and put my ammo in them. They block out water so it will be a great storage spot.

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Originally posted by FluMom FluMom wrote:

I am going to get more ammo. For two reasons, first if TSHTF I want to make sure I have plenty, second if Obama is re-elected he will try and stop ammo sales.

LOL, I have so much #10 can food now I am going to clear out and arrange my food storage bins and put my ammo in them. They block out water so it will be a great storage spot.

 
Try to store ammunition away from temperature extremes too. Extreme being in excess of 100 or significantly below freezing.
 
Reason being is that temperature swings will degrade the primers, and that's the most important part of a cratridge as without it, no bang. Keep it somewhat temperature stable and it'll last sixty years. Lots of temperature swings and it won't last ten.
 
Interestingly enough, older Corrosive ammunition doesn't have this problem. If you don't mind doing a little extra maintenance on your gun, especially if defecation hits oscillation, these can be the ticket. By a little extra maintenance, you'll have to wash the gun with water before oiling it as normal as older primers used Mercury Fulminate, which when fired made corrosive salts that lined the bore. Storage moisture would eat the barrels.
 
Water dissolves and picks up the salts and carries it away so it's not an issue.
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