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Nearly 6,000 dead pigs in river but water's fine, Chinese officials sayBy Madison Park and Dayu Zhang, CNN
March 13, 2013 -- Updated 0942 GMT (1742 HKT)
Why were dead pigs floating in river?STORY HIGHLIGHTS
Hong Kong (CNN) -- 5,916 dead, bloated pigs and counting. Chinese officials say they expect to find more carcasses floating in the river that flows through the center of Shanghai -- but they insist the city's water is fine. The claim had incredulous residents one-upping each another with one-liners on the country's popular microblog service, Sina Weibo. "Since when is finding dead rotting pigs in a major river not a public health problem?" Weibo user, @Muyunsanjun2011, asked. "Answer: When this happens in China."
Dead pigs found floating in river
Officials said "no pollution has been found" in the city's water quality, according to the Shanghai Daily on Wednesday "If the water is contaminated, we will put more the disinfectants and activated carbon to purify the water," an official from a Shanghai water plant was quoted in Xinhua, the state-run news agency. It prompted another Weibo user, @_Nina_Burbage, to quip, "Since apparently, the water has not been contaminated, big leaders, please go ahead and have the first drink." The city's water authorities say they are increasing the number of quality checks, removing the dead pigs while they are further upstream and working to ensure water quality, according to the local Chinese newspaper. 'Dead pigs all around' How thousands of swollen dead pigs got to the river remains unclear, although there have been some clues. This week, sanitation workers, clad in masks and plastic suits, fished the bruised pig bodies from the river. The pink, decomposing blobs surfacing in the Huangpu River wreaked foul odors and alarmed residents. "There were dead pigs all around and they really stunk," one local resident told CNN. "Of course, we're worried, but what can you do about it? It's water that we have to drink and use." If the water treatment process is very effective and can handle the sudden glut of contaminants, it's possible to minimize the impact, said Julian Fyfe, a senior research consultant specializing in water quality at the University of Technology Sydney. But he added: "Most treatment plants would not be designed to accommodate that level of shock loading. It's such an unsual event." Fyfe spoke in general terms about water quality issues, as he is not involved with Shanghai's water treatment. "If they are chlorinating heavily, which a lot of places may do, especially if they've got a very polluted water body to start with, then the effects could potentially be small," Fyfe said. Dead pigs which have been sitting in the water for days, would leak blood, intestinal fluids and other pollutants, which could alter the taste and color of tap water. Many residents have begun drinking bottled water in fear of contamination, according to the Global Times, a Chinese newspaper. Ripe for satire The agricultural commission in China said it had tested organ samples from the pigs and the results suggested the animals had contracted a type of porcine circovirus. On Tuesday, national officials acknowledged the pig incident in a press conference Tuesday. "According to monitoring statistics, there's no evidence to show that there's an outbreak of any major animal epidemics," said Chen Xiaohua, the national vice minister of agriculture. "But in the meantime, the incident shows how we need to improve our work in the future." The situation appeared ripe for satire. A movie poster for "Life of Pi" was doctored and replaced with "Life of Pigs" with the main character's boat filled with dead pigs, and the water dotted with the bruised corpses. One weibo user, @Fujiadiandianxiaoya, joked: "I finally figured out why drinking boiled water makes me gain weight -- because it is in fact pork soup!" Local authorities say they're looking into how the pigs ended up in the river. One possible factor, reported in the Chinese media, is a disease that had killed thousands of pigs in a village south of Shanghai. Officials in Jiaxing had blamed the dumping on some "local pig farmers who lack awareness of laws and regulations." The labels in the ears of the pigs found in the Huangpu River indicate they could have come from Jiaxing City, according to Xinhua, the Chinese state-run news agency. But officials say the tags only indicate place of birth, so the pigs could've come from elsewhere. Another official told the Shanghai Daily that the water doesn't necessarily flow from Jiaxing to Shanghai. |
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Great! I'll be in Shanghai in a week & a half!
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china pulls 1,000 dead ducks from Sichuan river
The news comes amid concerns over the 16,000 dead pigs found in Shanghai's Huangpu river
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Related StoriesAround 1,000 dead ducks have been pulled from a river in southwest China, local officials say. Residents found the dead ducks in Nanhe river in Pengshan county, Sichuan province, and alerted the environmental department, they said. Local residents and livestock were not at risk as the river was not used for drinking water, officials added. The news comes as the toll of dead pigs pulled from Shanghai's Huangpu river passed 16,000. Speaking in an interview with China National Radio on Sunday, Liang Weidong, a deputy director in Pengshan's publicity department, said that the authorities were first made aware of the ducks on Tuesday. Officials discovered over 50 woven bags which contained the carcasses of around 1,000 ducks in the river. They were unable to determine the cause of death as some of the ducks were already decomposed, Mr Liang said, adding that the bodies had been disinfected and buried. An initial investigation suggested that the duck corpses had originated from upstream and were not dumped by local Pengshan farmers, he said. 'Thick soup'The news has prompted concern and criticism from some users on weibo, China's version of Twitter, with many expressing incredulity at the government's assurance that the water is safe. "Dead pigs, dead ducks... this soup is getting thicker and thicker," wrote one person with the username Baby Lucky. "The dead pigs haven't even disappeared yet, and now the dead ducks emerge - does this society enjoy being competitive?" wrote netizen sugarandsweet. "The dead ducks in Pengshan river present us with a very practical problem, and show how society's bottom line is getting lower and lower," weibo user If So said. The news came as Shanghai's municipal government confirmed that over 16,000 pigs corpses had been pulled from Huangpu river, which supplies drinking water to Shanghai. The work of fishing out the dead pigs in the river was "basically finished", the government said in a statement released on Sunday. Workers have been pulling dead pigs from Huangpu river for the past two weeks, sparking concern amongst residents and on China's microblogs. It is still not clear where the dead pigs came from. |
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Well, pork is definitely going to be off the menu for me.
I think that these farmers don't have the equipment to dig big holes to bury the pigs. When they die they have to remove them from their property and the only way to efficiently do it is to dump them in the river and make it somebody elses problem.
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Nothing to see here folks, everything is fine...............trust us!
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yes and our milk is fine to drink to full of healthy..... melamine..(did you get that news in the States????)
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Bird flu deaths have no connection with pigs -China
Two men have died after contracting with a new strain of swine
flu in China, authorities claim no connection with pig carcasses found
in Huangpu River
World Bulletin/News Desk Bird flu virus had no connection with dead pig samples from the Huangpu River where two men died due to the infections of a new avian influenza strain, H7N9, the city government said. Another woman working in a pig breeding farm in Nianji province in Jiangsu also contracted the virus and is in a critical condition. On the other hand, apprehension continues as one of the victims of the avian influenza was a pork butcher. Experts warn against consuming pork, with reference to the suspicion of over 13 thousand dead pigs taken out of the Huangpu River, that provides drinking water to residents in Shanghai, might have caused the avian influenza. Dr. Lan Ruiming, China representative of World Health Organization, said, "The possibility of the connection between the influenza and dead pigs shouldn't be ignored." China's National Health and Family Planning Commission said it was unclear how the three had been infected. The commission said in a statement that all three showed initial bysymptoms of coughing and fever, which later developed into pneumonia and respiratory difficulties. The government said that the three had not had mutual contact and that 88 people who had contact with them did not appear to have been affected. Another strain of avian influenza, H5N1, has led to hundreds of deaths since 2003 and has killed millions of birds.
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Is new bird flu outbreak linked to 20,000 dead pigs? Three die in China as scientists isolate new strain of killer virus
PUBLISHED: 18:15 GMT, 3 April 2013 | UPDATED: 06:35 GMT, 4 April 2013 A leading science writer has
speculated that the unexplained deaths of thousands of pigs, ducks and
swans in China is linked with the recent human bird flu fatalities and
heralds the start of a pandemic. Residents
in Shanghai began to spot dead pigs floating down Huangpu River on
March 10. Days later dead ducks were found in the Nanhe river in the
southwestern Chinese province of Sichuan. By
the end of the month, the carcasses of at least 20,000 pigs as well as
tens of thousands of ducks and swans had been washed up on riverbanks
across China. Linked? A leading science writer has suggested the 16,000 dead pigs that washed up in Shanghai could be connected with China's latest bird flu outbreak
Meanwhile two Shanghai men aged 87 and 27, were diagnosed with a new strain of the Bird Flu and died. Today, it was announced that a third
victim died in hospital in Hangzhou city on March 27, bringing the
number of confirmed human infections to nine. All the casualties were infected with
the H7N9 form of influenza, a type which had not previously been known
to infect human beings. Authorities are still unable to explain the deaths of the animals, although most people have automatically assumed that China's notoriously polluted waterways are responsible. Flashpoint: The first two bird flu victims were
infected in the city of Shanghai, where thousands of dead pigs were
washed up last month Research: A technician holds test reagents for H7N9 bird flu virus at the Beijing Center for Diseases Control and Prevention Tests on some of the dead pigs later revealed evidence of PCV-2 - a virus that is harmless to human beings, as well as birds. However PCV-2 it is only supposed to be fatal to fetuses and newborn piglets and the pigs tested were all adult. In an intriguing piece, Pulitzer Prize-winning science writer Laurie Garrett has now suggested that the virus that killed the pigs could be linked to the new strain of bird flu. A nurse attends to a patient in Shanghai where an emergency response plan has been activated following the two bird flu deaths Writing for the highly respected foreignpolicy.com website, she said: 'One very plausible explanation for this chain of Chinese events is that the H7N9 virus has undergone a mutation -- perhaps among spring migrating birds around Lake Qinghai. 'The mutation rendered the virus
lethal for domestic ducks and swans. 'Because many Chinese farmers raise
both pigs and ducks, the animals can share water supplies and be in
fighting proximity over food -- the spread of flu from ducks to pigs,
transforming avian flu into swine flu, has occurred many times. 'Once influenza adapts to pig cells, it is often possible for the virus to take human-transmissible form. 'That's precisely what happened in
2009 with the H1N1 swine flu, which spread around the world in a
massive, but thankfully not terribly virulent, pandemic.' Today Chinese authorities dismissed such speculation and insisted that the H7N9 outbreak was not linked to the animal deaths. Yin Ou, deputy director of the
Shanghai Municipal Agricultural Committee, told reporters that the city
had tested 34 dead pigs found in the city's Huangpu River for the H7N9
virus, but the tests had all come back negative. Flu experts around the world are currently studying samples isolated from the patients to assess its human pandemic potential. Other strains of bird flu, such as H5N1, have been circulating for many years and can be transmitted from bird to bird, and bird to human, but not from human to human. At least 1,000 dead ducks were found floating in the Nanhe river in southwestern China
So far, this lack of human-to-human transmission also appears to be a feature of the H7N9 strain. Of the seven other cases of the new strain, two have died, both in the business hub of Shanghai. The other five are in a critical condition in hospital in Nanjing. Shanghai, Nanjing and Hangzhou are all close to each other in eastern China. BIRD FLU: THE DISEASE THAT COULD KILL MILLIONSThe first birds were infected in 1996, while the disease spread to a humans for the first time in Hong Kong a year later. It began to move throughout Asia before cases were later found in Europe Experts have warned the high contagious disease is the world's biggest pandemic threat and could kill between 5 million and 150 million people. The disease is expected to continue mutating within birds but has largely been brought under control in Asia due to vaccination programmes. Seventeen governments around the world are preparing vaccines to combat a pandemic. The Agriculture Ministry said it had
yet to find any animals infected with H7N9, though added it was possible
it had been brought to China by migratory birds. The World Health Organization (WHO)
says so far it has seen no evidence of human-to-human transmission, but
there are questions about the source of the infection and about how it
may be being transmitted into people. 'We still don't know the mode of transmission or host (of the virus),' said WHO spokesman Gregory Hartl. 'Those are the two most important
pieces of information we would need. In order to control it, we need to
know where it is coming from.' China has a chequered record when it
comes to tackling disease outbreaks, which some officials have
previously sought to cover up. However, since the H7N9 cases have
been identified, China has stepped up its alert level and said it is
being transparent in dealing with them. In 2003, authorities initially tried to cover up an epidemic of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome, which emerged in China and killed about a 10th of the 8,000 people it infected worldwide.
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take a look at the, antiviral protection the men are wearing NOT !!!!!!
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An
employee from the Shanghai Agriculture Committee on March 13 displays
an identification tag cut from the ear of a dead pig. The number on the
tag showed that this pig is from Jiaxing, East Chinaโs Zhejiang
Province. Photo: Cai Xianmin/GT
Dead
pigs that were removed from the water are buried at the site with an
excavator, at the Xiaomao dock in Shanghaiโs Jinshan district on March
13. The Xiaomao dock is located on the upper reaches of the Huangpu
River, which supplies Shanghai with some of its drinking water. Photo:
Cai Xianmin/GT
An
employee from the Shanghai Agriculture Committee sterilizes the site
where dead pigs were buried on March 13. Photo: Cai Xianmin/GT
Employees
from the Shanghai Water Authority salvage dead pigs on March 13 from
the Huangpu River, which supplies Shanghai with some of its drinking
water. The Water Authority sent 36 boats to participate in the salvage
operation. Photo: Cai Xianmin/GT
An excavator scatters lime powder to sterilize dead pigs as they are buried on March 13. Photo: Cai Xianmin/GT
An
employee from the Shanghai Agriculture Committee displays
identification tags cut from the ears of dead pigs on March 13. The
numbers on these tags showed that these pigs are all from Zhejiang
Province. Photo: Cai Xianmin/GT
Employees from the Shanghai Water Authority remove dead pigs from boats on March 13. Photo: Cai Xianmin/GT
An
employee from the Shanghai Agriculture Committee looks for
identification tags attached to pig carcasses on March 13. Photo: Cai
Xianmin/GT
Employees
from the Shanghai Agriculture Committee look for identification tags
attached to pig carcasses on March 13. Photo: Cai Xianmin/GT
An
employee from the Shanghai Agriculture Committee cuts an identification
tag off a dead pig on March 13. Photo: Cai Xianmin/GT
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hi uploaded these pics , so we can cross refference where the pigs where from ,re-outbreaks
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if you look on the map(recombinomics)most of the flu out breaks are cases are around Jiaxing
funny that's where the dead pigs came out of the river , not far from a big lake, whats the betting they should look in the lake "WHAT LIES BENEATH" |
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