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Middle East Novel Corona Virus? |
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nc_girl
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Posted: May 01 2013 at 9:35am |
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so have they admitted yet that this is h7n9 or not? Haven't heard much else about it but I'm convinced that their problem is the same one that China's got. Maybe that's why they can't find the source in China, cuz maybe it started somewhere else.
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different virus , this one looks to have come from camels or bats , but hey!! who knows anything is
possible at the moment, a reasortment of this coronavirus , H5N1,and H7N9, that that is not improbable, scary yes, virus dont play by the rules , tricky little blighters. |
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Numbers of this are up again (although very low compared to the "official" bird flu figures).
"Five people in Saudi Arabia have died from a Sars-like virus and two more are seriously ill, officials say. The seven cases were all from al-Ahsa governorate in the east of the country, the Saudi news agency SPA said citing health officials." |
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nc_girl
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call me crazy but I still think that what's in the Middle East is the same h7n9 virus we're seeing in China. They are just too similar and the timing is too coincidental for my taste. The two viruses have too much in common also. Both are related to SARS, both cause quick death and the people die pretty much the same way. Both are new to humans and are corona viruses.
I am thinking that maybe the reason they can't find the source in China is because it didn't start there. Just a theory but I'm sticking with it. |
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"The new virus is different from SARS, in that it causes rapid kidney failure".
That's a little disturbing |
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Currently the ambient temperature range in Riyadh : daytime in the 90's F. and in the nightime the 70's F.
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jacksdad
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Wow. Just shy of 70% CFR compared to SARS 11%. That's not something that H7N9 has shown itself capable of doing if the Chinese numbers can be believed. That's H5N1 territory, and with kidney failure showing up in it's victims too? Usually coronaviruses are not as much of a concern as flu because they mutate much slower, but this one already seems to be a prodigious killer of people, but fortunately still lacking the ability to easily spread. I found a reference to the WHO last November stating that genetically it most closely resembled a bat virus. Now, why does that sound familiar?
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ok, maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree. I'll sit back and watch. Hopefully all of these things will just die off on their on without ever becoming a pandemic.
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I think you're right to be concerned, nc_girl. That's still a scary virus. I'm not familiar with the pandemic potential of a coronavirus because it seems to be assumed that influenza is the primary candidate by virtue of it's rapid mutation rate, but this is already killing as many of the infected as H5N1 does. If it were to develop efficient H2H transmissibilty with that kind of fatality rate it could well spark a pandemic. And this while H7N9 is spreading and H5N1 is still out there?
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I keep saying there are too many people and mother nature is going to find a way to weed out people. It is just when not if!
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