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CAN OZONE KILL THE H5N1 VIRUS? |
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emilio
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Posted: March 06 2006 at 7:28pm |
There are various sectors that say ozone can kill the influenza A or H5N1 virus and others that it does not.
Is there any scientific proven proof that ozone can kill the virus? Thank you. Emilio |
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yes it does
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ignorance.
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birdwithoutflu
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If it does, why don't they give it to people who have H5N1?
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fafhrd
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In large quantities O3 is toxic to humans.
Oh and welcome to boards birdwithoutflu. May your name never change. |
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I had a little bird,
his name was Enza; I opened the window, and influenza. |
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ozone can kill outside the body . inside it can kill us,it can be a very nice way to disinfect the outside,rooms places.etc......... |
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ignorance.
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Ozone does not exist for more than a few milliseconds ion the atmosphere.
It is unstable molecule. Dont think it is practical and yes it is poisonous and also explosive. |
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http://www.ozone.enaly.com/index.htm Cheap ozone generator and it lasts more than a few seconds in the air. I plan on using ozone to recycle masks if needed. |
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Well go ahead and buy one sucker. It's a con and you just fall for it. Nowhere
will the company guarentee the level of o3 and anyway how are you going to know it's generating o3? Try Hydrogen Peroxide its stable easily stored and works a treat. |
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Already have one and it's output has been tested, right on the manufactures spec., I don't recommend things lightly! Ozone may be one of the few safe ways to extent the life of masks, but then no self respecting virus would attack you with such an evil disposition as you display, so you're undoubtedly safe, even without any meds or HP.
Stick it in your bloody ear! |
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money, money, money
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Penny wise and pound foolish, typical Brit. No wonder you lost the Empire, you became a nation on bookkeepers!
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It can have some unfortunate effects on petroleum products to - latex, rubber, and perhaps the elastic that masks use to hold the mask to the face. It tends to make them brittle or crumble. |
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the sunlight do have the same effect as welldont you agree hangglider.........,so following your post,people must not get out on a sunny day............................with a mask...........hummmmmmmmm
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steve 101
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Ozone for what its worth I use homeopathic Ozone a lot. I use it for low blood oxygen symptoms. Theoretically adding to water should purify it. Dont jump on me please. You have just given me an idea as to how to purify my well water if the BF hits Thankyou |
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Welcome, birdwithoutflu,hanggilder,emilio, any questions just " Holler"
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I am not here to reason, I am here to create"
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Yep - sunlight (specifically UV) can degrade rubber, latex, and a lot of other things (like the sail cloth on a hangglider). I'm not sure how UV damage compares to O3 damage though. Anyone who has found a rubberband laying outside knows what the UV does to it. Cheers! (BTW - your english is pretty good!!) HangGlider |
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emilio
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Thank you for all your input.
What if I go 6-7 ppm of ozone and with a machine that can dispense ozonated water. Portable. With 6-7 ppm, it will kill the virus. What do you think? Emilio |
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send corky52 a pm he knows everything
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What about the ozone producing air cleaners like cleanair.com or alpine systems?
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emilio, I've used ozone to freshen the taste of water and it works well for that. I do know that many areas in Europe use Ozonation in their water instead of chlorination and it seems to work well. In my case I'd have to wonder how to get the ozone dispersed in the water well enough to make sure all the bugs get killed. I went to UVC for water sterilization because I could see an easy method to get complete exposure. I've been looking to ozone as more of a way to clean cloths and masks. From everything I've read I'm not looking to expose myself to breathing high levels of ozone. Everything I've found on both ozone and UVC make me want to keep them in well controlled environments and use them with great care. |
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Intravenous Ozone and Hydrogen Peroxide Therapy ‘ Intravenously administered ozone and hydrogen peroxide have comparable clinical benefits in flu and flu-like illnesses. In general, my colleagues at the institute and I prefer hydrogen peroxide infusions to those of ozone for treating acute viral infections. With hydrogen peroxide infusions, we generally administer 20 to 25 grams of vitamin C and other vitamins and minerals. With ozone infusion, we cannot administer as much vitamin C and other nutrients. For the general interest of the reader, I include here brief comments about my practice for my own upper respirator viral infections. To avoid the loss of my work hours and minimize symptoms during other times of the day, I vigorously manage my own common colds and flu-ike illnesses. For that purpose, I take hydrogen peroxide or ozone infusions daily or on alternate days to recover expeditiously from infection. Alternatively, I will take an intramuscular protocol for infection which my colleagues and I at the Institute have found to be very valuable.’ From: The Rooster, the Flu and the Imperial Medicine of the New Empire (Canary Press, www.canary21.com). Just came out this February written by a noted pathologist and alternative medicine doctor Majid Ali. |
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The Government has a 1 ppm as a safe level for use of Ozone in the presence of humans. The problem is that Oxides of Nitrogen are produced when the Oxygen atom is split by UV to create Ozone (O3). There are many newly discovered allotropes of Oxygen, we know that Ozone is one of them and it is a tri-atomic allotropic molecule of Oxygen. What you need is a higher form of Ozone that does not split the nitrogen atom during the O2 movement and split. So lets look at (O4) this is a 4 atom molecule of Oxygen so it is a poly-atomic molecule of oxygen. When we start getting to this point we are in the field of quatum mechanics and the enormous amount of energy focused into these higher forms of allotropic oxygen molecules, they are designed by nature to clean the air and water, O4 to O15 allotropic molecules of oxygen are what is nmeeded too do the H5N1 HPLI virus. See( Aranizer.com) find out more about Machines to protect you and yes the government is planning to use equipment detailed from this manufactor, it is better than ozone, better than plastic on house and no need for masks in area of use, seek facts yourself it never hurts-ps products are american made and all stainless steel and you can steam clean them, try that with alpine if it becomes contaminated, if using a air purifier can give you peace of mind then find the best and there are numerous on the market, but just one manufacturing of the O4 type systems. |
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www.mcclainozone.com It cured my cancer in an offshore clinic....FDA and USDA approved for food contact in the US but "Big Pharma" will not let it be used for human medical human contact. If I can assist anyone with additional information please feel free to contact me. All the best, Bill |
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