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Mystery illness kills 4 patients in Montgomery County
HOUSTON (KTRK) -- A mystery illness is going around in Montgomery County, and health officials are trying to figure out what it is, and why four people have died. Authorities say that in the 2013 influenza season there have been 1,920 cases of influezna-like illnesses within Montgomery County. Montgomery County Public Health District was alerted to eight severe cases at an area facility. Of the eight cases reported, four patients have died. Currently officials say no diagnosis has been made. Those affected are experiencing flu-like symptoms but have tested negative for common flu strains. The patients are at an unnamed area hospital waiting for further lab test results to determine the nature of the illness. The patients have ranged in age from 40 to 60, but officials have not confirmed the time period of the illnesses. Health experts remind residents to use common preventative measures to control the spread of infection, such as frequent hand washing and avoiding school and public places if you have a fever. Christi Myers will have more on this story this afternoon on ABC13 Eyewitness News. Find Christi on Facebook at ABC13-Christi Myers or on Twitter at @ChristiMyers13 Source |
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Mystery illness claims 4 lives in Montgomery County
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December 17, 2013
| Updated: December 17, 2013 10:50am Four of eight patients admitted recently to Montgomery County hospitals have died of a mysterious flu-like illness, officials said. The patients, ranging in age from 41 to 68, were admitted to the hospital with flu symptoms, but tests for influenza were negative, said Jennifer Nichols-Contella, spokeswoman for the Montgomery County Public Health District. "We're monitoring the situation and waiting on further lab results," Nichols-Contella said Tuesday. No details were available Tuesday on the dates of the deaths or hospitalizations, she said. Although the Montgomery County patients did not test positive for influenza, this is the heart of the U.S. flu season, which typically peaks in January or February, according to the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. During the week ending Dec. 7, four states - Texas, Louisiana,
Alabama and Mississippi - reported high levels of influenza-like
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reported. The levels of activity are based upon the percentage of
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My father passed away Friday. He was 68 years old with no preexisting conditions and no history of drug or alcohol abuse. He had been out cutting down trees in the front yard and thought he had a hernia and pulled muscle in his back. He had diarrhea and flu like symptoms. He was put into a medical coma and given 100% oxygen through life supportb but only showed 80% oxygen blood saturation. He was put on dialysis and he progressively got worse. His daily chest exrays showed his lungs were improving. His doctor was baffled.
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Lillie - I'm so sorry.
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He was the 68 year old who was in Conroe Regional Medical Center until he passed away Friday, December 13, 2013. He was hospitalized from Thursday till the following week when he passed away on Friday.
I believe people need to be aware of this illness and take precautions. Wash your hands, where a face make in doctors offices and hospitals and if you don't have a sink near you use antibacterial hand sanitizer. |
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Lillie, is there alot of people with this illness? Have they tested for things like MERS coronavirus, or any other agents? Is there any connection between any of those 8 cases that you know of, and or any travel to the middle east and or china?
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Texas -- Officials with the Montgomery County Health Department are on a mission to find out more about a mystery flu-like illness. So far, half of the people who have come down with it have died. According to the health department, all of the patients have had flu-like and/or pneumonia like symptoms. However, all of them have tested negative for the flu. [link to www.khou.com] ----- |
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The mystery illness in TX is not new:
Mystery illness linked to 2 deaths; doctors stumped May 11, 2013 [link to www.houstonchronicle.com] |
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Not good. Flu like symptoms, but tested neg for all flu strains? Should probably test for MERS to rule out all possibilities. Interesting...
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The first H7N9 patient in Hong Kong tested negative twice until they took deep lung samples.
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I edited my last post, but I also suggested that h7 might not yield a positive for influenza A. Whatever it is, seems to be transmitting rather efficiently.
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Henry Niman does not rule out H1N1pdm09. A pandemic is not over just like that. Terrible news if things come that close.
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It's not h1n1. Would have been detected
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I agree with Albert - it's highly unlikely they would have had problems confirming H1N1.
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This is off topic.
At this time keeping an eye on radiation sickness may be prudent.
I'm just not sure.
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My initial thought was that MERS would piggy back off h1n1. The small cluster is a little confusing as h7 and MERS spread at the same rate. Knowing symptoms would help, although pneumonia and organ failure are the same with both. h7 would most likely result in lung lesions. As niman would say, symptoms would be useful.
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The X-rays taken of my father daily showed that his lungs were clearing up but his vital signs and oxygen levels were progressively getting worse. That would rule out lung legions because they are detected through X-rays.
I do know my father had not been out of the country in years when he and my mother went to Cancun. He retired 3 years ago so he and my mother went to Church and the store. |
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CONROE, Texas – The investigation into a mysterious illness in Montgomery County is expanding as other hospitals and doctors report similar cases.
The new case files are being reviewed for similarity to the eight at Conroe Regional Medical Center that prompted a Montgomery County Health Department investigation. Four of those eight patients died and two are still fighting for their lives. "We don’t currently have a diagnosis for what has caused those illnesses," Montgomery County Medical Director Dr. Mark Escott said. State and regional health departments have already been notified and are also looking for reports of new cases. "Other health departments will need to be looking for cases like this to make sure that we haven’t missed cases," Dr. Escot said. Technically, the illness is classified as an influenza-like illness or ILI. There have been nearly 2,000 ILI cases in Montgomery County this year, but these eight are different. "Eight serious cases at a local hospital that developed with influenza-like symptoms that developed serious complications, including death for four of those eight patients," said Montgomery County Medical Director Dr. Mark Escott. At least some of those patients, all between the ages of 41 and 65, developed pneumonia. They all tested negative for standard strains of the flu, and that is part of the problem. "The big worry about a situation like this is, ‘Could this be a novel flu of some sort?’" Escott explained. "It could certainly be lots of other viruses or other diseases but that is the big concern." Wayne and Judith Law recently lost their daughter to a similar illness. Fifty-year-old Gayla Marcantel died last week at a hospital in North Harris County. "It is just devastating. You see your child lying there, swelling because of all the fluids and they can’t do anything," Judith Law said. Marcantel was perfectly healthy until she came down with flu-like symptoms about three weeks ago and ended up in ICU. "They were seemingly doing everything that they could do. It was just a continual thing of trying something new," Judith Law said. The Laws stayed by their daughter’s side and watched helplessly as she continued to go downhill. Eventually, her body couldn’t fight anymore and her organs failed. "We lost her," Judith said through tears. "You have no answers. You rely on what the doctors are telling you, but you still have questions and they really have no answers." Viewers have contacted us about similar cases in other areas, but experts are just beginning to look at additional cases. The health department in Montgomery County is urging everyone to do their part to prevent any illness from spreading: wash hands frequently; cover your cough but don’t cough into your hands; stay home if you’re sick; and get to the doctor within the first 48 hours of illness. Source |
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Did he have any kind of expansive tests, if I would you I would ask them to run a complete screen on him during a autopsy or whatever for H7N9, MERS etc. |
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I'm not sure about the lung lesions and was only a guess, assuming that h7n9 might act similar to h5n1. China does not release information regarding h7n9 symptoms, treatment, etc.... no information whatsoever. That's one reason why I don't speak too highly of Chan and the WHO when they praise China for their transparency. Almost odd when I see that. Anyway, It's only a guessing game with what Chinese officials know with regard to symptoms and treatment. Organ failure is something common with both.
I'm also sorry for your loss Lillie. |
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I know a lot of people that have come down with flu like symptoms. Anyone consider the passing of Comet Ison playing a part in this? History shows some major pandemics at the same time as comets passing...something about every 333 years?
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Interesting Loribeaeme. Good find. Kidney failure is obviously a symptom of MERS, although I'm not saying that it is.
The current survivors being "very sick" is also not the best of signs. |
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Health authorities have tested for common strains of the flu using the rapid test. If this is H7N9 (which is consistent with both flu-like symptoms and multiple organ failure) the rapid test would not pick it up.
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This is becoming quite alarming. There are reports of new cases apparently? It also seems a bit odd that they have no time table for other results. I assumed CDC issued tests to all state health centers for H7N9 and MERS-CoV for testing patients. They also haven't said if any of these patients have had any sort of travel either out of the country themselves, or if they've been in contact with someone who has been out of the country recently. Also if you read the comments on the news article page, you see several people in the Houston area also reporting of flu-like illnesses. One poster claims her son had died in a nearby town of the same thing. It could be normal influenza but I've never heard of anything like this.
"Doctors are awaiting test results that could explain what the illness is, but there is no time-table as to when those results could be in. Montgomery County Health officials told KHOU they are now looking at cases from other hospitals that could be connected to the mystery illness. The new case files are being reviewed for similarity to the eight cases at Conroe Regional Medical Center that prompted the County Health Department investigation. The state and regional health departments have already been notified and are also looking for reports of new cases." |
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Lillie, I'm so sorry for your loss.
Kyle, I suspect they are going to want to be 100% certain before they announce it is something nasty like MERS. Any sort of announcement declaring a pandemic will result in social chaos and panic so they will need to be absolutely sure they are right, hence the lack of a time table for results. Personally if I was running it, I'd test and test again and then once more just to be certain. It might be a good time to stock up if you haven't already.
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Those who got it wrong, for whatever reason, may feel defensive and retrench into a position that doesn’t accord with the facts.
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may god comfort you and your family lilly, so sorry your father suffured so. the only thing incouraging about this awful illness is it has not stricken any children yet. you are brave and to be commended for speaking out to try and help others in your grief. did your dad have coughing and congestion and any fever in the first stages of his illness? thanks and praying for you and your family.
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It looks like it started around Thanksgiving, which would make sense with all the travel - if it's a novel strain or one circulating in another country that we're already aware of. Whatever it is, it seems to kill rather quickly. Sounds like h7n9 or something similar, but who knows. The victim in the following article got sick on his job. Authorities should monitor others in the work place.
Mother says mystery illness transformed son into dying patient in daysby Drew Karedes / KHOU.com Posted on December 18, 2013 at 6:59 AM Updated today at 7:00 AM
CONROE, Texas – The mother of the youngest of eight confirmed cases of a mystery illness in Montgomery County is sharing her son’s story. Dathany Reed, 41, wasn’t feeling well on Thanksgiving. He called out sick from his job at the Golden Corral and went to see doctors at Conroe Regional Medical Center. Odessa Reed says doctors sent her son home with several prescriptions. She said her son was admitted to the hospital’s emergency room the next day and ended up on life support. “It doesn’t make sense,” said Odessa Reed. “How can you talk to a person one day, and they say, I’m not feeling good, and the next day, that person is on life support.” Dathany’s 41st birthday came and went on November 30 while his kidneys and other organs deteriorated. Family members said goodbye to the father of three on December 5. “This is the hardest thing I’ve ever had to face in my whole life,” cried Odessa Reed. “My son was kind. He was sweet.” Doctors say all of the patients have had flu-like and/or pneumonia-like symptoms but have tested negative for standard strains of the flu. “[I hope they] get a better handle on this before it affects more lives, more families, more people,” explained Odessa Reed. “I want the truth.” Doctors are awaiting test results that could explain what the illness is, but there is no time-table as to when those results could be in. Montgomery County Health officials said they are now looking at cases from other hospitals that could be connected to the mystery illness. The new case files are being reviewed for similarity to the eight cases at Conroe Regional Medical Center that prompted the County Health Department investigation. The state and regional health departments have already been notified and are also looking for reports of new cases. Related:http://www.kens5.com/news/Mother-says-mystery-illness-transformed-son-into-dying-patient-in-days-236360341.html |
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It's probably safe to rule out influenza A & B, except for possibly a more difficult one to detect, but doesn't seem like a common seasonal strain at this point. All of the infected are male, which is also a little similar to the initial MERS outbreak that tilted heavily to primarily infecting males in the beginning. Odd little bug/situation. Looks like test results are due today, so it's probably prudent for people to stay tuned.
Four Montgomery County men dead, four hospitalized with mysterious illness MONTGOMERY COUNTY, Texas - Health officials are trying to figure out what killed four Montgomery County men and hospitalized four others. Within the last three weeks, doctors said eight men have come down with a mysterious and dangerous flu-like illness. "They
eventually tested negative for influenza A and B (most common), but
then went on to develop severe complications," Montgomery County
Hospital District Medical Director Dr. Mark Escott said. "Part of the
ongoing investigation is to sort out what exactly is happening with
these patients." The state health department has asked for specimens, but right now
those specimens are being tested by an independent lab. Results are
expected as early as Wednesday. Surrounding health departments like
Harris County have also been notified. For now, officials are asking people to get immediate treatment for flu-like symptoms but not to worry. "The
important thing is for the public not to be alarmed," Dr. Escott said.
"This may be a coincidence that these eight sick patients happen to be
at one hospital and while we investigate, they need to practice normal
infection control procedures." http://www.click2houston.com/news/four-montgomery-county-men-dead-four-hospitalized-with-mysterious-illness/-/1735978/23533172/-/1fy6eb/-/index.html |
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Just check Houston Chronicle. Did not see an update this morning. Maybe more coming later.
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Lillie, I'm so sorry for your loss.
Did you visit with your father during is illness and have you noticed any change in your or your families heath as of now. He died and was risen on the third day |
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Now I'm starting to wonder if Lillie is doing okay at this point.
Good question regarding if other family members are showing symptoms. |
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This is really scary if they have had this many days and can't find the results. Do you guys remember approx 6 months ago about some other unexplained deaths in Texas? Its so weird. I wonder how much we can count on true disclosure! Keep us updated all!
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There seems to be no mention of monitoring family members or work colleagues. if this thing is contagious then there have probably been a large number of people in close contact already.
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Those who got it wrong, for whatever reason, may feel defensive and retrench into a position that doesn’t accord with the facts.
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This is an official update from Montgomery County Public Health:
12/18/2013 UPDATE: INFLUENZA LIKE ILLNESS ARISES IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY As of Wednesday afternoon, there has been one confirmed case of H1N1 virus. Of the eight reported cases, four patients have deceased. Of the remaining four cases in an area hospital, one case has tested positive for the H1N1 virus. Two of the patients tested negative for all flu viruses. Montgomery County Public Health District is awaiting test results for the remaining patient. The 2013 Influenza vaccine does protect against the H1N1 virus. At this time no known deaths received the vaccine. Based on CDC data, the H1N1 virus is nationally on the rise. It can reasonably be expected that the occurrence of more H1N1 cases will be reported. Public Health Officials will continue to monitor the situation diligently and will provide more information as it is received. The Montgomery County Public Health District is grateful for Conroe Regional Hospital’s astute physicians who recognized the unusual nature of the illness and began the appropriate testing to reach a diagnosis. Montgomery County Public Health District has been in discussion with the Texas Department of State Health Services along with the CDC to coordinate investigation efforts. Despite ongoing investigations, it cannot be emphasized enough that common infection control practices should be followed to prevent the spread of infection. As with common flu strains, some people are more likely to develop flu complications than others. Please reference the CDC’s website,http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/disease/high_risk.htm, which further explains the high risk population, including children under the age of 5, adults over the age of 65, and people with certain medical conditions. It is also recommended that you receive your flu shot. Montgomery County Public Health Clinic is offering the vaccination by appointment, while supplies last. Call (936) 523-5020 to set up an appointment. For any other questions or concerns, please contact the Public Health hotline at (936) 523-5050. The line will be staffed Monday thru Friday from 8AM-5PM, it is for non-media inquiries only. |
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So they reached a diagnosis of seasonal flu in one patient, and now it's case closed?
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Wow. Lot of grammatical errors on that pr. If only one has tested positive for h1n1, wonder what the others have/ had. They may hype h1n1 with their great writing, or lack thereof, but the fact still remains that only one tested pos for h1. What about the others? Was the h1 a coinfection? MERS
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My son 37 died yesterday just like your Father. After 5 days on life support they said was Swine flu.and ARDS. He was well one day and back hurt. Thought he had the flu. Tested negative 2 times at dr. Office. That was on a Thur. By Monday was on life support. He had improving xrays then kidne failure set in. Died yesterday. He was a big strong guy too. Never sick. I feel your pain.
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I'm so sorry for your loss, jeri.
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Could it be Pneumonic plague ?
Pneumonic plague occurs when Y. pestis infects the lungs. This type of plague can spread from person to person through the air. Transmission can take place if someone breathes in aerosolized bacteria, which could happen in a bioterrorist attack. Pneumonic plague is also spread by breathing in Y. pestis suspended in respiratory droplets from a person (or animal) with pneumonic plague. Becoming infected in this way usually requires direct and close contact with the ill person or animal. Pneumonic plague may also occur if a person with bubonic or septicemic plague is untreated and the bacteria spread to the lungs. http://www.bt.cdc.gov/agent/plague/factsheet.asp Symptoms The most apparent symptom of pneumonic plague is coughing, often with hemoptysis (coughing up blood). With pneumonic plague, the first signs of illness are fever, headache, weakness, and rapidly developing pneumonia with shortness of breath, chest pain, cough, and sometimes bloody or watery sputum.[2] The pneumonia progresses for two to four days and may cause respiratory failure and shock. Patients will die without early treatment, some within 36 hours. Initial pneumonic plague symptoms can often include: Fever Weakness Headache Nausea Rapidly developing pneumonia with: Shortness of breath Chest pain http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumonic_plague |
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My deepest sympathies with those who have lost a loved one...
Montgomery Co. Health Department Director gives a brief interview: http://www.khou.com/video/featured-videos/INTERVIEW-Montgomery-County-Health-Director-on-mystery-illness-H1N1--236465431.html
I suspect L. pneumophila (Legionnaire's Disease) infection subsequent to a respiratory virus, perhaps H1N1 or some other strain (A or B) of flu going around. Legionnaire's is very hard to detect and grow; when we studied tissue samples of pneumonia patients from years ago, we found all sorts of it. It wasn't really identified until the Legionnaire's Outbreak of 1976. Let's wait and see how this progresses, I'm guessing that there will be a not-so-mysterious reason for these mortalities, and probably not a new strain of influenza. Be safe, everyone.
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H1N1pdm09 Confirmed As The Mystery Fatal Disease In Texas http://www.recombinomics.com/News/12181305/H1N1_Mystery_TX_Conf.html "H1N1pdm09 Confirmed As The Mystery Fatal Disease In Texas |
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niman may have lost it. One patient tested positive for h1n1 and for some reason he has spun that into all are h1n1pdm09 positive, even though all the rest tested neg for h1n1pdm09. 3 of the survivors tested neg for the flu (including h1n1pdm9), and the 4 deceased weren't tested. How niman is coming up with this is somewhat baffling.
I agree Chuck that Legionnaire's could not be ruled out. |
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It would appear to me this is Swine Flu and it will now spread across the United States. The only difference is this strain is much more lethal. The last CDC report of Flu in the U.S. was December 7th. It has been twelve days and still no report.
With the new outbreaks of this, it is likely it will soon no longer be a mystery illness. It will be Swine Flu. imho |
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Niman seems to have been somewhat on mark with the h1n1 pandemic strain. In addition to a possible mutation taking place or a variant at play. So he's gotten lucky a couple times over the past decade.
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