The Chinese Death Star

China's economic reform could slow growth BBC News-2 hours ago

China's Economic Growth Slows to 7.4% Wall Street Journal-35 minutes ago

China GDP Gauge Seen Showing Deeper Slowdown Bloomberg-18 hours ago

China's economic growth forecast at five-year low in Q1 Reuters India-4 hours ago

CRS, DrPH wrote: China isn't alone....Mad Cow Disease sprang from the practice of feeding unrendered sheep offal to cattle, allowing the "scrapie" prion to jump species.  In the USA, I know of operations that recycle their biological wastewater biosolids into animal feed streams, in violation of AAFCO and FDA regulations.   We also have cattle operations that feed dried poultry litter to their cattle.  Gross!   However, China takes dangerous practices many levels further, with no regard for human lives, theirs or anyone else.  They have too many damn people as it is, and need to put four BILLION meals on the table every day.  Plus, they don't have much arable land....much of the interior of the country is hard-scrabble rock and mountains.   Combine burgeoning population, need to produce food with limited resources and ample corruption at all levels and we have a massive food health disaster in the making, complete with contaminated exports (melamine in milk, anyone?) and virus reassortment engines on two or four legs.   Get ready, the party's just begun!

bird-flu comes from China - H5N1 and H7N9

the time to get off the ship is before it hits the iceberg !

The Richest Man In Asia Is Selling Everything In China

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-16/richest-man-asia-selling-everything-china

China Housing Market Bubble Start to Pop as Economy Faces Hard ...

I'm starting to think that we should be more worried about the Saudi Death Star!!  

China has presented the world with H5N1 and H7N9 because of poor agricultural practices and those two bugs stand ready to unleash death on an industrial scale to the rest of the world.

Kilt2 wrote: China has presented the world with H5N1 and H7N9 because of poor agricultural practices and those two bugs stand ready to unleash death on an industrial scale to the rest of the world.

China's looming debt bomb: Shadow banking and the threat to growth

I guess that depends on what you think is 'HUGE'... No body is really paying much attention and your meltdown predictions are getting old.

CRS, DrPH said- "If they have to, China will hire the same workers to tear everything down again."

Guest wrote: I guess that depends on what you think is 'HUGE'... No body is really paying much attention and your meltdown predictions are getting old.

Blah, blah, blah, blah....
Yawn!!

1. Property Bubble a Key Risk for China in 2014: Jian

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   May 19 (Bloomberg) –- Barclays Chief China Economist Chang Jian discusses China'sproperty woes and how the slowdown in the property ...

Remember when the American Housing Bubble popped in 2008?

Chicken from China? Your Seafood is Already Being Processed There
By Nancy Huehnergarth and Bettina Siegel | March 4, 2014

Thanks to our Change.org petition (307,000-plus signatures and rising), millions of Americans have learned that the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) is about to allow U.S chickens to be sent to China for processing and then shipped back to the U.S. for human consumption.

This arrangement is particularly alarming given China’s appalling food safety record and the fact that there will be no on-site USDA inspectors in those plants. In addition, American consumers will never know that chicken processed in China is in foods like chicken soup or chicken nuggets because there’s no requirement to label it as such.

One frequent refrain we’ve heard is that no U.S. company will ever ship chicken to China for processing because it doesn’t make economic sense. This was precisely the claim made by Tom Super, spokesman for the National Chicken Council, in a recent Houston Chronicle article about our petition:

“Economically, it doesn’t make much sense,” Super said. “Think about it: A Chinese company would have to purchase frozen chicken in the United States, pay to ship it 7,000 miles, unload it, transport it to a processing plant, unpack it, cut it up, process/cook it, freeze it, repack it, transport it back to a port, then ship it another 7,000 miles. I don’t know how anyone could make a profit doing that.”

Well, guess what? It clearly does make economic sense because this process is already being used for U.S. seafood. According to the Seattle Times, domestically caught Pacific salmon and Dungeness crab are currently being processed in China and shipped back to the U.S., all because of significant cost savings:

“… fish processors in the Northwest, including Seattle-based Trident Seafoods, are sending part of their catch of Alaskan salmon or Dungeness crab to China to be filleted or de-shelled before returning to U.S. tables.

“There are 36 pin bones in a salmon and the best way to remove them is by hand,” says Charles Bundrant, founder of Trident, which ships about 30 million pounds of its 1.2 billion-pound annual harvest to China for processing. “Something that would cost us $1 per pound labor here, they get it done for 20 cents in China.”

Considerably lower Chinese labor costs are what make the arrangement profitable, even when factoring in round-trip shipping costs over 14,000 miles. Here’s how it works:

The fish are de-headed and gutted on the ship in the Bering Sea, then frozen and sent to China, says Douglas Forsyth, Premier Pacific’s president. Once there, they are boned, skinned and cut into portions of 2 ounces to 6 ounces, he says …

Even factoring in 20 cents a pound in transportation costs, processing in China is still cheaper for the most labor-intensive fish, says Trident’s Bundrant.

So let’s turn back to the question of U.S. chicken.

The Bureau of Labor Statistics indicates that American poultry processors are typically paid a little more than $11 per hour on average. While we could find no analogous statistics for Chinese poultry workers, this recent news account of a fire at a Chinese poultry processing plant quotes a worker as saying he earns 2,000 yuan ($326) per month, or between $1-2 per hour.

So, under the Pacific salmon/Dungeness crab model, it seems perfectly plausible that American poultry suppliers will find it makes good economic sense to ship U.S. chicken all the way to China and back for processing.

But, as we state in our petition (along with co-petitioner Barbara Kowalcyk), good economic sense should never trump valid concerns about food safety. And China’s food safety system, which is decades behind ours, can only be described as horrific, as evidenced by just some of the more recent food safety scandals in that country:
•More than 300,000 Chinese children have suffered illness, and several have died, from melamine-tainted milk powder.
•Dangerously high levels of mercury have been found in Chinese baby formula.
•More than $1 million worth of rat and other small mammal meat has been sold to Chinese consumers as lamb.
•Here in our own country, FDA recently warned pet owners not to feed their pets jerky treats from China. Since 2007, approximately 600 dogs and cats in the United States have mysteriously died, and 3,600 have been sickened from eating Chinese pet treats containing chicken or duck.

Now that it’s clear that processing U.S. chicken in China makes sense economically, it’s even more critical that Congress, President Obama, and his administration stop chicken from, or processed in, China from reaching our supermarkets and the meals we feed our schoolchildren by:

(1) Ensuring that Chinese-processed chicken is not included in the National School Lunch Program, School Breakfast Program, Child and Adult Care Food Program and Summer Food Service Program; and

(2) Preventing funds from being used to implement any rule that would allow poultry raised or slaughtered in China to be exported to the United States.

If you haven’t signed and shared our Change.org petition, please take a moment to add your signature. Every name that’s added puts pressure on our legislators to put the health and safety of America’s children ahead of the interests of food manufacturers. Thank
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Folks, you are already eating plenty of Chinese foodstuffs.  Canned Mandarin oranges, tilapia fillets, tiger prawns, dried fruits of all sorts etc.  

Sorry all. Just meant to post that last one once. Not sure how I messed it up.

nearly 6,000

arirish wrote: Hey Kilt2, here's one for you! Mysterious Illness May Be Carried by the Wind By Tim Wogan Monday, May 19, 2014 - 4:45pm    One of the world’s most baffling diseases may be spread by the wind. A new study has found that Kawasaki disease, which sickens 12,000 children a year in Japan and occurs in other countries including the United States and South Korea, is at its deadliest when the wind blows from northeastern China. The findings suggest that the illness may be caused by an airborne toxin from that region, but just which one remains unclear. http://news.sciencemag.org/environment/2014/05/mysterious-illness-may-be-carried-wind

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