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Albert
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Posted: July 21 2014 at 6:07am |
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Well here's a little twist.... I suppose everything revolves around pandemic flu viruses these days. Don't shoot the messenger on this one, lol.
MH17 Hauled Gruesome Cargo In Infected Corpses And Tainted Blood By Yoichi Shimatsu
In these still early hours following the mystery crash
of MH17, one must dare to think the unthinkable. An investigator goes
to where the evidence leads, and the evidence so far from the crash site
indicates a hellish scenario beyond imagining. Dutch Suspect Covert 1992 by Yoichi Clark Shimatsu
The El Al Boeing 747 crashed into an apartment building
in Bijlmeer, a suburb of Amsterdam, killing 39 people on the ground and
four aboard the plane. It was carrying a secret cargo that included the
main chemical ingredients for the nerve gas sarin as well as depleted
uranium. Dutch journalists allege it was carrying weapons-grade plutonium
as well. The flight stopped at Amsterdam's Schiphol Airport for
refueling en route from New York to Tel Aviv. On October 4 last year,
the sixth anniversary of the crash, Dutch transport ministry leaked to
a newspaper an El Al bill of landing that shows the plane was carrying
190 liters of dimethy methylphosphonate (DMMP), four liters of isopropanol
and an undisclosed amount of hydroflouric acid. The Israeli government has claimed that the chemicals were intended for testing gas masks. But most military services use only a few grams for such purposes. The chemicals aboard the El Al jet were enough to produce 270 kilograms of sarin nerve gas -- enough to annihilate the populations of many major cities. The sarin components came from the Solkatronics chemical plant in Morrisville, Pennsylvania, then owned by Solvay, a chemical corporation based in Brussels, Belgium. International transport of such materials is a violation of the Chemical Weapons Treaty, signed by the U.S. The El Al jet also carried at least 800 kilograms of depleted uranium (DU), used as ballast to balance the jet's cargo. Burned DU releases uranium dust, which is known to cause lung cancer and other diseases. Dutch authorities and El Al admit Flight LY1862 carried sarin components and DU, but refuse to provide details on six tons of military cargo. According to airport security personnel, the plane carried seven pallets of unspecified munitions. Journalist Dekker claims, on the basis of leaks from Dutch officials, that the jet carried 27 kilograms of weapons-grade plutonium, enough to make seven warheads the size of the bomb that was dropped on Nagasaki in 1945. In addition, soil samples taken at the crash site have
turned up evidence suggesting that nuclear weapons technology was being
illegally shipped from the U.S. to Israel. Dutch and Israeli authorities apparently organized a cover-up. Most documents taken from El Al officials have disappeared. Police audio tapes and 42 videotapes taken by the firefighters were shredded. Firemen claimed that they turned in the cockpit voice recorder, or "black box," but the government denies that it was ever found. Metal parts from the wreckage were recycled and melted down before a proper investigation could begin. Residents report seeing helicopters, painted black and without markings, landing in their neighborhood. Others tell of a French-speaking team searching the area, and a group of men speaking English, some clad in white chemical protective suits, carrying a heavy box covered with a white cloth. The Dutch authorities have denied that these events ever happened. Journalists say Dutch security officials have told them that the Netherlands has allowed Israel to make secret military air shipments through Schiphol since the 1950s. The shipments apparently are outside the Atlantic Alliance military treaties because the aircraft going to Israel are not refueled at NATO air bases but at the commercial airport of Schiphol. "Schiphol has become a hub for secret weapons transfers because El Al has special status there. Dutch authorities have no jurisdiction over Israeli activities at the airport," said Henk van der Belt, a member of an investigation team set up by Bijlmeer residents. Every Sunday at sundown, an El Al cargo plane stops at Schiphol, refueling midway on the long journey between New York and Tel Aviv. All Israel-bound cargo is put inside a vacuum chamber in an underground bunker to test it for bombs equipped with altimeter triggers. But the flight does not appear on any airport video monitors -- there is not even an El Al check-in counter. Documents for air freight to Israel are handled inside an unmarked room. A photo taken just before the 1992 accident showed that the engine of the El Al jet was off-center, indicating it was previously damaged. Airport workers in Cologne, Germany, where the jet refueled on its way to New York, say the plane collided with an airport ground vehicle there. In other words, the cargo jet loaded with U.S.-made sarin, uranium and plutonium could have crashed in New York but it turned out to be a time-bomb flying to the heart of Europe. http://rense.com/general96/dutch.html |
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Johnray1
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Albert,is it possible that any of the blood pathogens or viruses could have survived the crash.Johnray1
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I didn't even finish reading it.
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Albert
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Apparently two of the corpses got up and started walking around. One was seen chewing on a piece of landing gear.
Hi Johnray, I'm not sure what to make of it. |
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Bodies Rained Down On Ukrainian Village After Malaysia Airlines CrashBy Anton Zverev http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/18/malaysia-airlines-crash-bodies_n_5598934.html |
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This cannot be real ......... can it? |
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onefluover
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I would say the Onion. But then it also sounds like an honest attempt at disinformation/deflection. If 5% of the people buy it or even are influenced then the author will have accomplished much.
I can see how he took what is known and thought to be known and ran with it. There were (false) reports from the beginning of previously dead bodies (cadavers) falling from the sky. Drained of blood? Why? Because the bomb was inside one and the blood could short circuit the electronics. Dumb but theoretically possible. So whoever wrote the story is in cahoots with the ones who shot it down. In other words, the makings of this story is rooted with the claims of previously deceased bodies falling. The story is a continuation of those false claims, therefore tied to it and the perpetrators. I would arrest the author. |
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Albert
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I heard they torched the entire crash site. Burp
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Quite honestly, I wonder if they did have corpses on that plane, or is Rense a scam? And the WHO personnell on board the flight? If that were the actual case, I might for a second, but only a second, scratch my head over that. Rense could be scam site, and I personally have no prob spreading the word about it.
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Might be a satire site. There was a rumor going around that 112 people in Chicago were killed by teenagers reenacting The Purge 2. That got debunked by various news sites though, it originated from an obscure satire site. Looking into the site, and it's ran by a man who discusses conspiracy theories and lives in Santa Barbara.
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Be prepared! It may be time....^_^v
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I don't drink at all. Never did. I'm like this all the time. Maybe I should.
Maybe they are the people from the missing Malaysian flight? |
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The disclaimer is half a mile long.
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These people have been watching "The Strain"! Same story line. I heard on NPR today that the Ukraine Air Force shot the plane down. Look the Russians and their Minions in the Ukraine are going to try any other story to keep themselves out of trouble. Disinformation is the best way to keep the true story from Russian responsibility of killing all of these people with a missile.
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One time I saw a special on TV about a plane crash in S. America. When people fall from that high up, they most always land naked on the ground because the wind rips their clothing off. So, the bodies being found naked is a normal thing for a plan crash such as this.
Since no one was at the site for several days, all the corpses would be rotting in the sun. I have problems believing that there were lots of dead corpses on that flight. It sounds like Putin just wants to obfuscate the entire issue. We must keep in mind that many things are never as they appear. |
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dead corpses?
could be worse
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And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him.
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The train with the bodies of the victims of this air-disaster just arrived in Charkow, Easter Ukraine under pro-western government control. There to bodies will be loaded on an Australian plane and brought to the Netherlands for further identification.
In the Netherlands priority number 1 is reuniting family's with their loved ones.
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I posted a link on Facebook to a Gizmodo story about someone at the the
Russian State run broadcasting company editing the Wikipedia entry about
MH17, and a friend accused me of being one of the sheeple and buying into "western propaganda". I guess
it's a sore point because his wife's Russian, but what cracked me up was
that he repeated the story Albert started this thread with and he
obviously believes it to be true. He can't see someone in the Russian
government editing Wikipedia, but he believes the plane was carrying decomposing bodies drained of blood and all the other nonsense. And I'm one of the sheeple...
Incidentally, there is a Vice news video on YouTube of bodies in the fields surrounding the crash site, and locals talking about the aftermath of the crash. I won't post a link out of respect for those who lost loved ones, but rest assured it's pretty graphic and very depressing. Here's the link to the Gizmodo article though - http://gizmodo.com/a-tweetbot-caught-the-russian-govt-editing-flight-mh17-1607483459?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_facebook&utm_source=gizmodo_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Girkin About the man that may have been behind the shooting down of this flight.
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Nice guy
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"Buy it cheap. Stack it deep"
"Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary. |
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The Ukraine side http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_Sector with their "leader" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmytro_Yarosh held responsible for executions of Russians, just because they were Russian... both types you would not like as a neighbour. Sad to say it, but both have "support" from people you would not expect.
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They only recovered 280 bodies of the 298. So there's still 119 unaccounted for. 100 zombies and 18 regulars.
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Not even close to being funny.....
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Today at 16.00 hours there will be one minute of silence in the Netherlands in rememberence of those who have died and their families. The train that arrived in Charkov carried 200 bodies. The remains of 98 humans that were killed must be spread in the area.
This day will be a day of mourning in our country. At 1600 hours a first plane with 15 bodies will land at Eindhoven airport. Further identification will be at a barracks at Hilversum near Amsterdam.
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There seems to be growing evidence that the Ukrainian Army shot down the MH-17 flight.
http://www.infowars.com/whistleblower-u-s-satellite-images-show-ukrainian-troops-shooting-down-mh17/ Award winning former Associated Press reporter Robert Parry has been told by an intelligence source that the United States is in possession of satellite imagery which shows that Ukrainian troops were responsible for the shoot down of Malaysian Airlines Flight 17.
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Robert Parry was also behind the story that "rebels" were behind gas-attacks in Syria. http://consortiumnews.com/2014/07/20/what-did-us-spy-satellites-see-in-ukraine/
In the heat of the U.S. media’s latest war hysteria – rushing to pin blame for the crash of a Malaysia Airlines passenger jet on Russia’s President Vladimir Putin – there is the same absence of professional skepticism that has marked similar stampedes on Iraq, Syria and elsewhere – with key questions not being asked or answered. The dog-not-barking question on the catastrophe over Ukraine is: what did the U.S. surveillance satellite imagery show? It’s hard to believe that – with the attention that U.S. intelligence has concentrated on eastern Ukraine for the past half year that the alleged trucking of several large Buk anti-aircraft missile systems from Russia to Ukraine and then back to Russia didn’t show up somewhere. |
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A more painfull question has to be, did Ukraine want to shoot down the plane with Putin on it on his way back from Brazil (BRICS-meeting were was decided that the BRICS-countries, and some others, would drop the US$ in international energy trade) and did "other countries"give "aid/information"?
Malaysias oil company Petronas is working hard to get a pipeline towards China in an energy-war that is been going on.
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I think Obama did it!
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Buy more ammo!
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Sensationalism! Yellow dog journalism! This crap was aired on Moscow TV last week...in just another outlandish conspiracy theory. Geez...the stuff people will believe!
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Albert,has there been any new diseases reported in the Ukraine or in Russia that could have come from the contaminated bodies or the vials of viruses?Johnray1
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http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-malaysian-airlines-mh17-crash-financial-warfare-against-russia-multibillion-dollar-bonanza-for-wall-street/5392614 foreknowledge of this crash could make someone very rich.
I want to know who did this. Alex Jones is not a "Putin-loving-madman", Paul Craig Roberts does not want to become a Russian. Putin's youngest daughter Maria (born in Dresden in 1985) is married with a Dutchman and lives in a The Hague suburb. Russia has nothing to gain by shooting down this plane, the Ukraine has every thing to gain when they can blame the Russians (wich they understandable hate, since the Czars Russians treated Ukrainians as "second class"at best, Stalin (from Georgia not Russia) is responsible for the starvation of millions during the collectivication of agriculture in the thirties and the murder of thousends after the World War). Yulia Timosjenko wanted "to kill as many Russians as possible" to get them out of the Ukraine. Right Sector-nazi's would shoot Putins plane out of the air if they had a chance, and since they are fighting with the Ukrainian Army, they might have had a chance. Kiev Air Controll told MH17-flight were to fly, not the Russians.
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http://www.infowars.com/is-this-why-the-plane-was-shot-down/
The Russian government claims Ukrainian fighter jets were flying very close to Malaysian Flight 17 when it was shot down. Others claim that Ukrainian fighter jets were escorting the Malaysian plane through Ukrainian airspace. However, a Youtube video made a month before Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 was shot down alleges that Ukranian fighter jets were hiding behind passenger planes, pulling away temporarily, dropping bombs on Ukrainian separatists, and then hiding again behind the plane |
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That's funny. It was tragic. But that was funny.
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Guest,does any one know why they were carrying so many dead bodies and where did these bodies come from? Johnray1
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I read that there were about 100 HIV research scientist on board.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/18/mh17_aids_researcher_deaths/ Sad to think any noncombatants were killed. Worse in theory someone who could have been the cure for HIV may have been among those lost. |
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I saw footage on Vice.
The bodies were clothed and none looked 'long dead' or drained. All looked recently deceased. I would have expected to see burned remains. Did not see any. Locals said they heard the plane explode before falling, but I don't remember seeing any signs of it. I'd watch it again but... not something I want to see twice. |
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Guest,the reports from the first patrol that found the plane crash site,reported bodies that were not not freshly dead. I do not know how smart the men on this patrol were,but most any soldier can tell a freshly dead body from a long dead body.The smell is tip off right away. These soldiers would have known this because their lives depend on them knowing this.Johnray1
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We won t shoot Albert but someone should. This is so far from your usual that I don't quite know what to make of it ..... |
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Where did you see that? Debris landed in people's yards, on/in roofs etc. Those people were in the video. HOWEVER, at the end of the report there was a Military official on camera with the usual "blah blah blah, we didn't do it, blah blah blah, the enemy is evil" rhetoric. If I was a conspiracy type person, and I had to guess, I would think a wild story about corpses and WHO passengers was a way to redirect attention - enough that if anyone did figure out what really happened, the theory would be ridiculed as another conspiracy tall tale. ... and if that was the case, then this would make sense: http://www.globalresearch.ca/mh17-verdict-real-evidence-points-to-us-kiev-cover-up-of-failed-false-flag/5393317 |
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Its called a sense of humour Prarie One. Maybe it is a bad sense of humour - I can't tell as I share it. Perhaps you should develop one, its more fun that way. |
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Apologies Prarie One, I'm fond of our Albert and should bite my tongue more often.
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