where is the outward spread

If it was being intentionality spread in Africa it would look like ppe's and protocols weren't working. Not to say that it is not airborne or couldn't become more than droplet borne. Intentional spread would undermine efforts to contain and maintain burn. Also I could see where non African gov.'s could hide cases and quarantine operations to Putoff panic.

The reason why it hasn't yet escaped the effected areas is because like the outbreaks of past, the effected areas are large villiages in the bush, reletively well isolated from much of the rest of the world. It is certainly spreading and growing out within the narrow region it first sprang up.

Air travel, which was never large as compared to say, Chicago, has in fact been substantially reduced. Border security has been beefed up. Movement within the areas has been noticeably dampened.

With five to twenty thousand infected, ~80% of those already dead, many of the living so weak they can't move much, it is not surprising to me that an anticipated outgrowth has yet to materialize. A few thousand infectee's out of many millions is still a very small percentage of the population.

The theory is that with exponential growth, those numbers are now very close to maturing into something quite differant, shocking and ultra threatening to neighbors and faraway peoples.

Right now the living infected make up about .0001 to .0004% of the population of the big three with the most known cases. (Never mind Nigeria for the moment.)

Almost none of the infected are the jet-set type. But those numbers can and likely will go up in the weeks and months to come to make up 5, 20...50% of the population.

Sometime prior to it reaching these kind of numbers we are going to see absolutely massive stampedes of people in all directions in waves that no one will be able to stop and the virus will be carried along with it. -Albert's Tsunami.

This has been my take since the first 80 or so cases were reported. Sad, but it's actually quite elementary to see what's coming.

(Edited)

For me, the fishy odor comes from the fact that we keep hearing of people winding up in first world countries with symptoms that match up with Ebola, and have been in the affected areas, that are all testing negative, yet we never hear what they did have and their condition. And then what about that Air Marshal that was stuck with the syringe? That story seems to have disappeared from the news. I looked it up on the net last night and couldn't find an update. Anybody hear anything?

ViQueen24 wrote: For me, the fishy odor comes from the fact that we keep hearing of people winding up in first world countries with symptoms that match up with Ebola, and have been in the affected areas, that are all testing negative, yet we never hear what they did have and their condition. And then what about that Air Marshal that was stuck with the syringe? That story seems to have disappeared from the news. I looked it up on the net last night and couldn't find an update. Anybody hear anything?

You have a point. I have noticed the same. Probebly 8 out of 10 of them peculiarly neglect to mention what Ebola-like infection they did have...like bird flu or MERS? Like if it's not Ebola then all of a sudden it's private? Some of these cases are clearly common ailments that probebly occure thousands of times a day around the world but if they want to dispel any more suspicion and panic already developing then they should just follow up and tell us. Duh.

I read that the Martial was put back into service. Guess he was injected with saline or Gatorade. I mean, I'm glad for the guy of course but again, no mention of what could have been in that syringe. And maybe it was dry and someone's best attempt to cause fear. But how did they know it was a Sky Martial? Their identities are ultra secret.

I was wondering it could have served to cause terror, use our resources, and test our reaction.

I had put this up on another post

drumfish wrote: There are various reports of people being isolated and then tested for Ebola in U.S. and the developed world. Likewise subsequent revelations that they don't have Ebola. They don't tell us what the patient has. But they do say its not Ebola. What do they have? Patient confidentality. OK I get that. But why then would we know about it if it was positive. Wouldn't the confidentiality still apply. I guess I wonder if we are just buying time. They tell us about testing the patient in the first place. Does this seem disconnected?

I have read on a couple of sites where some people believe that WHO always overestimates these kind of things to raise more money. They say its just a fraud to extort the developed world through fear. Others. Say it is to distract us from something else. Or that do-gooders believe the only way we will devote resources to solve an African problem is by scaring the sheep into it. I have read all of the dire grim statements here and elsewhere and think to my self if this does not result in out of Africa transmission under the current conditions very very soon then I too may begin to question the apocalyptic predictions. I don't believe it can be as out of control as proported to be without out of Africa spread. Especially with modern travel, ease of transmission, and exponential growth. So it is either as bad as reported and worse or a sham. I don't know which but if this thing all the sudden comes under control after all of the dire reports I will be much more interested in the naysayers arguments in the future. Don't get me wrong I know Ebola is real and nasty and that terrorist could use it. But there are many threats and people being manipulated by lies and fear into action by a deceiver can rank as one of the biggest, because a terrified human can do really scary things.

The news reports indicate business people, students, government officials, etc. are regularly traveling out. From those groups are the people who are being reported as presenting with ebolalike symptoms in the developed world and quarantined tested and said to not have Ebola but what they do have is confidential. So while I do understand and recognize the validity of your statements I still believe that's not the whole story. Travel is available. Where there is travel there is spread of infectious pathogenic organisms.

Got me, guys. As much of a cynic as I am about Ebola, it should have appeared outside West Africa long ago.

It probably has. They're probably drawing straws to see who will admit it first.

onefluover wrote: The reason why it hasn't yet escaped the effected areas is because like the outbreaks of past, the effected areas are large villiages in the bush, reletively well isolated from much of the rest of the world. It is certainly spreading and growing out within the narrow region it first sprang up. Air travel, which was never large as compared to say, Chicago, has in fact been substantially reduced. Border security has been beefed up. Movement within the areas has been noticeably dampened. With five to twenty thousand infected, ~80% of those already dead, many of the living so weak they can't move much, it is not surprising to me that an anticipated outgrowth has yet to materialize. A few thousand infectee's out of many millions is still a very small percentage of the population. The theory is that with exponential growth, those numbers are now very close to maturing into something quite differant, shocking and ultra threatening to neighbors and faraway peoples. Right now the living infected make up about .0001 to .0004% of the population of the big three with the most known cases. (Never mind Nigeria for the moment.) Almost none of the infected are the jet-set type. But those numbers can and likely will go up in the weeks and months to come to make up 5, 20...50% of the population. Sometime prior to it reaching these kind of numbers we are going to see absolutely massive stampedes of people in all directions in waves that no one will be able to stop and the virus will be carried along with it. -Albert's Tsunami. This has been my take since the first 80 or so cases were reported. Sad, but it's actually quite elementary to see what's coming. (Edited)

In fact I believe that panic in their populations may be as great a fear by governments as the desease itself. Not to mention economic implications of panic in a given population.

With all the new hype now we need 100 million no wait no a billion to contain ebola. There should have been a spread out of africa so its being covered up or there is no spread out of Africa. If its really that bad why no quarantine on africa?