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Poll Question: Have you seen the movie "The Stand"?
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I have not seen the movie but I have read the book a couple of times.

 

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I have read the Stand......I am reading Cell by King it has simlarities.

I have read Alas Babylon,

Warday, Lucifer's Hammer, Cell  there is alot of speculative fiction out there.

another that I have not seen listed as far a disaster fiction is Malevil, by Robert Merle, who by the way wrote Day of the Dolphin . Malevil is about people starting a community in France after a nuclear war.

Of course there is going to be a preponderence of SF readers here, because we appreciate people who can speculate on what can happen.

and  a thing to remember, Science is often wrong, Science fiction has proven itself right time and time again.

 


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Wolf and Iron by Gordon Dickson is a post-SHTF novel.

Economic collapse in this one.  Great read...

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Wolf and Iron is a really good read.

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Can't help wondering what Stephen King is thinking today and if he feels a bit like a prophet. The Stand is an awesome book and an all-time classic. As frightening as the deaths from the super flu is the way Stephen King describes the disintegration of society and last but not least, how we deal with the choice between good and evil.  This forum  is helping us gear up to take a stand and choose to fight against the evil of ignorance, denial and apathy. The Stand may be fiction but it contains many truths about human nature. I haven't read it in years, but will read it again soon. And just in case Stephen King ever decides to  peek into this forum, THANK YOU STEPHEN !!!












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I'm re-reading the Stand right now, actually.  Picked it up today because I no longer had my original copy.  That was also one of my favorite books. 

 

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That was a darn good movie. I liked the spiritual content, good vs. evil, faith vs. blind obedience to the ....

Don't want to be a spoiler!

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One of my all time favorite fiction books. Yes, this is getting far too close for comfort! Fiction meets reality! Scary indeed.
 
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I saw the movie, and I thought it was pretty scary. It was a good movie though. I am thinking about watching it again. 
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Yes....The unabridged book vertsion of The Stand is the way to go. Have read it twice, saw the movie, but the book is so much better. As much as I loved it...I think it would creep me out too much to read it today...a little to close to reality. ICk....remember that scene in the Lincoln Tunnel?....brrrr
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The stand i agree a good movie,also try "28 Days Later" a brilliant UK film one of the best i think.
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The death rate in the stand was 99.8%. I dont think h5n1 will come close to that Forum.

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Mine favorite chapter was in the extended book about those who survived and than die because of different reasons.
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Originally posted by PsychoElf PsychoElf wrote:

Fiction meets reality! Scary indeed.
 
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Hmmm, don't remember meeting Reality. Are they a member here? ;)
 
Sorry, couldn't resist the temptation. Have seen the movie and read the book several times. A suggestion for another book, though the premise isn't a plague, try Lucifer's Hammer...for more ideas about what could happen after a major event.
 
Recently re-watched the Stand, as i have it on tape. Bought it some years ago. Well worth watching for ideas on what could happen. My favorite line...'The Big Apple is baked!'
 
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"The Earth Abides" is my fav of this genre. It's like The Stand, but without the religious overtones, and with more about the survival over decades of a colony of folks. The disease in question also came in waves, which is an interesting parallel to 1918.
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I've been reading SciFi all my life... which is to say a l-o-n-g  time! I have a huge paperback collection and most of the works mentioned have their place of honor on my shelves. Another good one is "The Scarlet Plague" by Jack London. Written in 1915, it's about a plague in 2013 that wipes out most of the population of the world, and the descent into barbarism that follows.

An interesting contemporary movie is "Time of the Wolf"... in French with subtitles, but worth a look if you can find it. Unlike an Amercian movie it doesn't "spoon feed" you all the facts about what happened, so you have to think about it some, but an interesting if creepy movie considering what's going on right now.

Maybe SciFi fans are overly represented among the Preppers. Maybe we are more willing to consider and accept possibilities that others think are impossible until they are hit in the head with it!  Just a thought.
 
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Everything that can happen will happen.  It's only ever a matter of time.  Volcanoes, earthquakes, asteroids, tsunamis, wars, depression, they all come eventually, just like exams.  Hard times will come again and the authors will be prophets again.  A big percentage of virologists are very nervous about H5N1, not for the first time, but we see the risks now and it would be foolhardy to ignore them or put them in the same class as authors and film makers.  Good read though.  Everyone wanted to drive to somewhere else.
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OK, I rented The Stand again. I think this time I am going to watch it over a couple of days. It is a long movie. I did like it much better than that latest movie about the bird flu. Was it called Fatal Contact or something like that?
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This thread has just made me realize something - OK, I'm a prepper, I joined this forum, avidly keep up on news re BF, and now I find that you guys all read and like the same books as me! I feel like I've just found long-lost family members! Smile Anyone for a little Kumbaya? Tongue
 
Proudest Monkey ~ Enjoy the movie. The book was way better but I think they did a good job with the movie. To cover everything in the book, the movie would have needed to be 12 hours long!
 
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My favorite book of all time.  The movie leaves a lot out just because it would be a two week mini seiries, otherwise.  But the movie is still good.
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For some reason, one thing about the book that stands out in my mind is the way Nature "healed" herself after the fall of Man.  For one thing, deer reverted to diurnal behaviour.  With the encroachment of man, they are today mostly nocturnal.  I've never seen the film.  Wasn't it a TV miniseries? 
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Now this is a real important poll that everybody should take.     LOL

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I rented The Stand last week. I hadn't seen it in years. It is a great film. I am currently reading The Great Influenza. I am amazed at some of the situations that came up in the movie/book (The Stand)that I read in the book (The Great Influenza). Even though it is fictional, I am wondering if Mr. King researched the 1918 pandemic when writing his book. Would love to hear his background research into The Stand! Personally, facing the fear, or making a stand is empowering -- good triumps over evil. Thank you Mr. King and Mr. Barry for your contributions.
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One of WalkinRon's favorites. 

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Randall Flagg..........Brrrrrrrrrrrrrr! I think I dated his brother a few years back...had to be relatedLOL
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I just purchased a book of Stephen King's called Danse Macabre. It  is a book where here talks about his reasons for writing most of his stories. On pg.370-375 he goes into great detail of why he wrote The Stand.  "It was a news story I had read about an accidental CBW spill inUtah. All the bad nasty bugs got out of their cannister and killed a bunch of sheep. But, the news article stated, if the wind had been blowing the other way, the good people of Salt Lake City might have gotten a very nasty surprise. This article called up memories of a novel called Earth Abides, by George R.Stewart. In Stewart;s book, a plague wipes out most of mankind, and the protagonist, who has been made immune by virtue of a well-timed snakebite, witnesses the ecological changes which the passing of man causes. " "In the case of  The Stand, this meanst beginning with the glum premise that the human race carries a kind of germ with it-I began by seeing this germ symbolically visulaized in the SLA, and ended by seeing it visualized in the superflu germ-which grows more and more virulent as technology misstep(not a far-fetched presumption, either, when you consider what happened at Three Mile Island lst year or the face the Loring AFB in my own state scrambled bombers and fighters ready to head over the pole toward Russia as the result of amusing little computer foulup which suggested that the Russians had launched their missiles and the Big Hot One was on)" This book was written 1981 and I just purchased it this past Sunday afternoon at the Goodwill for 1.98. Hope that gives some insight into what Mr. Stephen King was thinking when he wrote The Stand, my favorite of all of his books written.
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OK, reading this thread got me to go online tonight and buy The Stand.  I am a true sci-fi reader, but haven't read that book in years.  At least 15 years or so, I'm guessing.  So anyway, I found copies online as cheap as .75 cents at half.com.  If you're looking for a used copy, you might want to try there.
I've also made notes of the other books ya'll have mentioned and am going to get them for myself for Christmas.  (Ha, morbid Christmas present but I like reading material more than I do just about anything else.)  Thanks for sharing your book favorites with us!
 
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I loved the movie "The Stand." M-O-O-N spells moon!! I just loved the guy. And "Randal Flag" as the devil. I feel sorry for anyone out there named Randal Flag. I suspect he is someone Stephen King doesn't like. lol.
    
    
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  • 4 abbie - Be sure to read the uncut version if you haven't. It was released some years after the original and is so worth the extra time to read it. Enjoy!
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I remember thinking the movie was pretty good, but also thinking the book was much better. It has been so long since I read the book (when it first came out) although I may go back and read it again since I still have my original copy. I met Stephen King at a lecture when I was in college and took my book and he autographed it for me. He was really nice!
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If anyone is interested in a good read, Stephen King's latest novel "Lisey's Story" mentions the bird flu.  
 
 
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I have read the book X2 and have watched the movie X2.
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I have read the uncut version of the book several times and I also own the movie, which I also think is not as good as the book but was still very good. Hate the tunnel part, really scary;and I never want Nick to die. My daughter and I still say "my life for you...." when we are cutting up. I think it's the best thing he ever wrote. I have his "Cell" book as a Christmas gift, but having read everything he ever wrote,several times, it doesn't really sound like his writing in my head except for some parts.
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I noticed that The Stand is on this Sunday on Sci Fi ..
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I have read the Stand about 3-4 times    read it about every 2 yrs and own the movie also, can not say how many times I've seen it
 so many I've lost count
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