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    Posted: March 27 2015 at 6:27am
I have a feeling this could be a reason why the topic of mandatory vaccinations is coming around.   What they should realize is that a doc can still infect others even if they don't get sick themselves.  This also explains my personal theory that you could be more likely to get the flu while getting the shot itself.    What they should do is simply make it mandatory for healthcare worker to get vaccinated as it's their profession.  If healthcare workers did get vaccinated, it would probably drastically reduce the number of flu cases and deaths. 



Down the memory hole: health care workers refused vaccine

Down the memory hole: health workers refused vaccine

by Jon Rappoport

March 26, 2015

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“A basic function of the news is forgetting. It’s vital, if the population is to remain programmed. A story that once had juice was reported, and then…it vanished. No deep follow-up, no relentless investigation, no digging below the surface.” (The Underground, Jon Rappoport)

It’s convenient to forget, when remembering is unpleasant, when remembering makes you think twice about what the truth really is.

ABC News, December 9, 2008, “Docs talk the talk, but do they take flu shots?”:

“According to the most recent data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, a significant chunk of health care professionals declined to get vaccinated against the influenza virus during the 2006-07 flu season, with only about 40 percent opting for a jab.”

What possessed the 60% to say no?

Aren’t they supposed to be staunch defenders of vaccination? Don’t they have a better appreciation of the “science?”

My, my. 60% said no.

When the soldiers desert the generals and exit the battlefield, it’s quite illuminating:

“The war against disease through vaccine-prevention? Nah, I don’t think so.”

All that medical training, all that indoctrination, all those years in the system, and still they refused the vaccine.

But in 2015, with surveillance and tracking measures clamping down, you can be sure those health care professionals are now being watched more carefully. They won’t slip under the radar as easily as they once did.

So the number of vaccine refusers will shrink.

That’s real “vaccine science”: coercion.

Yes, that’s the core of the matter.

Welcome to your government: always looking out for you.

Jon Rappoport

The author of three explosive collections, THE MATRIX REVEALED, EXIT FROM THE MATRIX, and POWER OUTSIDE THE MATRIX, Jon was a candidate for a US Congressional seat in the 29th District of California. He maintains a consulting practice for private clients, the purpose of which is the expansion of personal creative power. Nominated for a Pulitzer Prize, he has worked as an investigative reporter for 30 years, writing articles on politics, medicine, and health for CBS Healthwatch, LA Weekly, Spin Magazine, Stern, and other newspapers and magazines in the US and Europe. Jon has delivered lectures and seminars on global politics, health, logic, and creative power to audiences around the world. You can sign up for his free emails at NoMoreFakeNews.com or OutsideTheRealityMachine.



Article:  (older news, but relevant as it is probably still happening)

Docs Talk the Talk, But Do They Take Flu Shots?

Dec. 9, 2008
By RADHA CHITALE
ABC News Medical Unit

Every fall, the public is barraged by messages from doctors, nurses and other health care providers to get a flu vaccination to protect against the influenza virus.

But the truth is, some doctors and nurses might talk the talk without walking the walk.

According to the most recent data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, a significant chunk of health care professionals declined to get vaccinated against the influenza virus during the 2006-07 flu season, with only about 40 percent opting for a jab. It's an "abysmal and profoundly sad" statistic, according to Dr. William Schaffner, chairman of the department of preventive medicine at Vanderbilt Medical School in Nashville, Tenn.

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"Both the professional and ethical responsibility of all health care workers is to be vaccinated annually against influenza," Schaffner said.

Vaccination serves to protect both patient and health care provider from becoming infected with influenza, as well as from transmitting the contagious virus to others.

Pains, Aches and Chills

One in five Americans get the flu every year, according to the CDC. Of these, 200,000 are hospitalized and about 36,000 die.

Schaffner added that, in the midst of an influenza outbreak, it is crucial to have healthy people on hand to take care of patients.

"We need health care workers on the line delivering medical care," Schaffner said. "We don't need them home sick."

There are legitimate reasons to steer clear of the needle. People with an egg allergy might avoid getting the vaccine because viruses for the flu shot are grown in eggs. People with Guillain-Barre syndrome -- a disease that results in nerve damage -- should avoid getting vaccinated as well, since respiratory illnesses can trigger an episode.

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But for healthy individuals, the CDC recommends that all health care personnel, students in training for those professions, and other high-risk groups such as employees of assisted living communities be vaccinated against the influenza virus.

Professionals make a variety of excuses for not getting the influenza vaccine, chief among which are that they are too busy or that getting vaccinated is inconvenient. Others don't like needles or believe, mistakenly, that the vaccine will result in a bout of the flu.

To those professionals, Schaffner said, "Get over it."

No Shot for Me

But for others, a history of good health can justify declining vaccination.

Nancy Ludwick, a registered nurse at Scripps Memorial Hospital in La Jolla, Calif., has had flu vaccinations in the past, particularly after Scripps began to require formal declination for those who chose not to receive the vaccine.

After her last vaccination, Ludwick said she got sick. But this year, Ludwick is experimenting with not getting vaccinated.

"I haven't had the flu in ... [11] years," Ludwick said. "I don't like to take anything. I barely take a vitamin. ... I'm doing my own trial to see how I would feel or not."

Ludwick said she feels more protected than the public, since nurses wear gloves and wash their hands constantly.

But experts could be concerned about the ability of doctors and nurses who choose not to get vaccinated to talk up the vaccine to patients.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/ColdandFluNews/story?id=6418974



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But it's only worth taking if it actually works and the current vaccine doesn't appear to work so why should HCWs take it?

The senior nurse at our local practise does not believe in vaccinations. None of her children have had them. 
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I confess I agree with both of you.  

Overall Albert is right.  If you are not prepared to do your bit for herd immunity (which is the ONLY protection available to the immunocompromised) you are automatically breaking (or at least bending into a hairpin) the hypocratic oath and should be ashamed to practice medicine.  But, I can see your point too, KiwiMum, especially when the vaccines use mercury preservative.  

Perhaps if it were compulsory there would be more pressure to drop that toxic cr*p.
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So Technophobe, given that it is widely acknowledged that the current flu vaccine doesn't work, do you think that all HCW should still take it?

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I'll add one further point. The health service is struggling to retain good quality staff due to low wages and increasing stress levels, do you really think compulsory jabs is the way to go? Do we in the Western world live in free societies or police states?
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In general, yes.  But, this current one should never have made it to the market.  If it were up to me a few heads would roll.
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Technophobe,many heads should role.Johnray1
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