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Dutch Josh
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KiwiMum, it is not the best message to get. On the other hand realism can save lives. The problem is that when at a given moment there is a 70% chance of a major quake in a given timeframe-there is also still a 30% chance it will NOT happen. When authorities issue warnings and those warnings afterwards did not become reality-authorities can loose credebility.
That works with weather events, tsunami-warnings and also increased earthquake risks. On the longer term some parts of the world should start building earthquake-proof in a better way. Light structures, proberbly find good answers for water, electricity etc. (Solar power-local electricity production in my opinion is a clever answer-not large scale production with expensive networks but production on the spot/close to the spot-were it is needed.) Also some areas people should move away from because of being to remote for help or to much risks (landslides, tsunami-risks). The last 24 hours had a M6.1 at 157.1km depth in Papua New Guinee http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us20007ztn#executive and a M4.7 in Tonga at 255.6 km http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us20007zss#executive also the Solomons have strong (after?)quakes. Dutchsinse is giving daily updates because at present we have a very unusual number of strong and deep earthquakes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR-NzcCKB5U and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfOGIPtKZUI The 10p.m. local time large update Dutchsinse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZ_109lA1XE Stay safe, healthy and hopefull !
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Dutchsinse giving an update https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuLPFULfT6Y Warning for a M5 north of New Zealand. http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us200080pe#executive (Dutchsinse was correct ! DJ)Also discussing the Scotland M5.3 earthquake (dec 11) that stayed out of the news. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WgHBlAhQLk near oil/gas installation and old volcano)
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us200080i0#executive several deep earthquakes, M4,7 Fiji at 454km depth. Also several deeper than 100 km and magnitude above 4 in Argentina, Columbia, Indonesia, Philipines, above M2,5 several in Alaska. Unrest continues. Several climate scientists on facebook warn for the extreme temperatures in the Arctic, methane in Antarctic (MH Hensel methane above 2miles, 3,2 kilometers ice-source unknown). Dutchsinse also mentions the supervolcano in the Arctic (northern most of Atlantic ridge). Antarctica also has several volcanic zones. Abrupt climate change=increase in earthquakes/volcanos=abrupt sealevelrise. If we are lucky that sealevelrise is in centimeters, when we run out of luck it will be in waves we have never seen since humans are on this planet. BPEarthwatch warning for Mt.St. Helens https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic7ely_TeJY. USGS giving a swarm of quakes near mammoth lakes-east California. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiMldwFKWmQ Dutchsinse latest (much to long !) update https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EhEH18QOjo
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A M8 just hit Papua New Guinee (P.N.G.) http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/pt16352050#executive
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/, Dutchsinse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mouy5zGh048 live stream. |
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Dutchsinse update https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT5JDTatgT8. After a deep quake http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us200081zg#executive 245,6 km depth, not far from Auckland M4.4 within 48 hours a more shallow M5,4 to M6.4 in New Zealand expected.
The M7.9 (others M8.1) Papua New Guinee quake yesterday http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us200081v8#executive was reported to have a depth of 103.2 km. According to Dutchsinse-at least that is what I understand-that is not deep enough to start a larger quake west of the epi-center. Seismic activity is still a lot, above statistical norms .
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A M6,4 (USGS 6.1 EMSC) magnitude, 619,3 km deep earthquake hit eastern Peru/western Brazil border area. http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us200082an#executive
https://gaming.youtube.com/dutchsinse/live and http://earthquaketrack.com/r/peru-brazil-border/recent What I understood from Dutchsinse in the past is that there may be a relation between this kind of deep quakes in northern South America with stronger-more shallow quakes to the south. https://dutchsinse.com/11282016-global-seismic-pressure-transfer-map-which-way-does-the-planet-really-move/ The Brazil/Peru quake could be the result of yesterdays quake M8.1/M7.9 in Papua New Guinee ? Very active seismic period !
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Several strong earthquakes in Nevada. M5.7/M5.6 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLtKEreoCLk Dutchsinse. https://www.newscientist.com/article/2116536-molten-iron-river-discovered-speeding-beneath-russia-and-canada/
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A deep M7.3 earthquake http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us10007s9c#executive could be a warning for a stronger (M8, M8,5 (+??) for the western pacific. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDbEe0V8ndE
Dutchsinse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EviSzJeMM7I The depth of the M7.3 is of particular concern... measuring in at over 610km deep.
Deep earthquakes usually lead to shallower larger earthquakes which strike the "silent zone fulcrum points" on every side of the deep event. Thus Japan, Papua New Guinea (solomon sea), and Indonesia all three need to be warned, and all three will be hit by larger activity (larger than anything we've seen in the past several weeks). This could reach above M6.5 in several locations. The larger earthquakes could go a full 1-2 magnitudes LARGER than the deep M7.3 - thus making the potential for a very large earthquake (M8.3 to M9.3) much greater than "normal". The larger earthquakes, if they occur, should strike to the West of the Deep earthquake with additional pressure fanning out across the area to the North and slightly East as far as Papua New Guinea. This is the largest deep earthquake we've seen in years, which means the whole Pacific plate is about to be displaced (is being displaced). Areas such as the West coast of the United States (Eureka to Cleft Segment) should be on heightened alert for the potential for up to M6.8 to M7.0 . Midwest USA should be on watch after California - watch for midrange M5.0 or swarms = to this. Could be swarms of 3's mixed with a few midrange M4.0 earthquakes, but more likely something larger. This week is going to be a week of displacement around the planet.. all the way to Europe and the Mid-Atlantic Ridge. Italy, South Europe, Mediterranean -- you only have 3-4 days at the most before you'll start seeing an influx of new seismic pressure which will increase magnitudes by up to 3X. This means up to a 1,000% power increase from the M3.0's we've been seeing. The potential for M6.0 activity in Greece is large. The potential for M5.0 activity in Central Italy at the NEW swarm location which popped up yesterday (Jan 9 2016). |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5385ZLrq3fU Before tuesday jan 16 Dutchsinse expects an M8+ quake near Sumatera/Jawa Indonesia. Following the deep M7.3 jan. 10. (Also warning for close to a M8 southern Japan, M6+ California).
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt_aZfDaD64 Dutchsinse expected an 8+m earthquake in Indonesia after the jan-10 deep M7.3 quake in the Philipines. It did not happen. Also his warning for a close to m8 in Japan, m6 US west coast and close to m6 Columbia/Panama did not turn out to be correct. (Also his warning for Italy failed....)
On one side it is good Jawa-Indonesia did not have a major earthquake-killing many people. On the other side correct predictions can save many lives. Dutchsinse switched to a watch for the coming 3 days he earlier warned. update: Italy has a swarm of M5+ quakes https://www.rt.com/news/374060-earthquake-rome-lazio-italy/. A large earthquake near Java/Indonesia would be a disaster https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java On that island over 140 milion people live. It is the most populous island on earth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_islands_by_population.
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Dutch Josh, I'll make a prediction for earthquakes here in NZ: I think we're about to have a really huge quake. There are three things that make me think this:
1. We've just had a third pod of whales strand on the Farewell Spit at the top of the South Island. Hundreds have died since the first pod of 416 whales stranded on Thursday night, this latest pod that stranded last night had another 200 whales in it. There is a link between whale strandings and earthquakes. 2. On geonet there have been a whole series of small quakes along the Hope fault (a huge fault that runs right past my house - I can see it from my window right now - and feeds into the even larger Alpine Fault. There are always small quakes on this fault but the ones on the maps right now are in a perfect line running the full length of the fault so something is adjusting there right now. There was a severe 5.2 this morning along the line. 3. We're on a full moon and are experiencing very high tides. So watch this space. Has Dutchsinse said anything about this part of the world?
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Those who got it wrong, for whatever reason, may feel defensive and retrench into a position that doesn’t accord with the facts.
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Kiwimum; for what I know of the three indicators (whales stranding, quakes-frequency/location-spread, full moon) you mention there may be links to earthquakes. On USGS two deeper quakes, a 4,9 in Fiji 506.4km depth and Vanuatu a 4,5 at 201,4 km depth. Deep earthquakes translate in more shallow quakes with a magnitude 1 to 2 higher-was a Dutchsinse-rule.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw0N27YKO1o Dutchsinse latest update. (NZ from 7.55, latest quake was a 6,3-downgraded to a 5,3. Dutchsins does mention there may be forming a new fracturezone allover New Zealand. But the last quakes in NZ are already a reaction to the deep Fiji-quake. A major quake might be near Japan (M6 ?) but seismic unrest for New Zealand. In my opinion Dutchsinse is doing a very good-but far from perfect-job. He is not "the best" in predicting unusual events. Pressure from Fiji most goes to the west and can translate in one larger quake, swarms of quakes and/or volcanic activity. Even a super-computer would not be able to make the right calculations on this. There seems to be a relationship between (some) storms, methane-release and quakes but also these are far from perfect indicators. At 45 min Dutchsinse mentions deep-fractures at several places (Pakistan, Peru etc) in february 2011 just before the march 2011 M9 Japan-quake. There are at present also some major cracks in the groud-hard to tell if they indicate a major seismic event.) Looking at last weeks FiJi quakes (USGS) lots of deep activity-I understand there is a big worry for a major quake in New Zealand.
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Thanks Josh, whatever happens we're ready for it. I just hope we're at home at the time.
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Those who got it wrong, for whatever reason, may feel defensive and retrench into a position that doesn’t accord with the facts.
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KiwiMum, I hope damege will remain limited.
What is difficult to predict/include is Antarctic seismic events. Melt there of landice will lead to landrise and increased siesmic activity. In sealevelrise 1% would come from mountains, 9% of the Arctic, 90% from the Antarctic. Antarctica at several places is showing things also seen on Greenland, meltlakes above the ice, meltwater moving under the ice. There is more methane in Antarctica than the Arctic. In the coming years glacier/seaice break down will speed up-giving room for landice-thereby giving room for seismic activty. (Dutchsinse had in one of his many video's a M10 quake at the south pole, possibly a group was testing something ? http://www.extinctiontheory.com/large-quake-at-south-pole-large-quake-at-north-pole/ Dutchsinse also mentioned "anti-podal quakes" a larger quake causing a smaller quake at the opposite side of the planet. When you google for "antipodal quake" you get things like http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread726738/pg1 and more.) Climatechange will effect New Zealand just like the rest of the globe.
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http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/at00olw37x#executive A M 6.6 south of Fiji quake at depth 417 km at feb 24 17,28 utc. (6,9 updated http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us20008m3t#executive) several deep quakes in the Fiji region could mean up to 2+ shallow quakes more west. So Indonesia could face 8.9 ? max quake ? Also Japan, New Zealand increased risk for M6-M7 range coming days ?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuuO_MMen2I Dutchsinse discussing earthquake risks. South of Japan, west of East-Timor, central New Zealand, Columbia/Equador border M7 coming 5/7 days.
In december 2016 there was a similar situation with several strong deep earthquakes. Dutchsinse expected a larger M9 quake but that did not come. It is good to try to understand how earthquakes arise and see if there are paterns. But forecasting earthquakes is still (at best) far from perfect. Dutchsinse assumes that there are silent zones in between areas that were hit by a quake and that pressure will come out in those silent zones. Some areas are more vulnarable than others-so I question the relevance of these silence zones.
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Is the USGS admitting oil/gas production is destroying the US ? http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-04/could-artificial-earthquakes-trigger-disaster-oklahomas-risk-now-equal-san-francisco and https://www.usgs.gov/news/new-usgs-maps-identify-potential-ground-shaking-hazards-2017 and https://www.rt.com/usa/379768-southern-california-major-earthquake/
Of course the oil and gas industry can legally destroy the global climate. Since laws are made by the shareholders from the same industry. https://www.usgs.gov/news/just-how-early-spring-arriving-your-neighborhood-find-out-0 The man-made quakes come above the already "natural" risks.
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Two M6+ quakes Alaska/Canada, several aftershocks;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3Ilc_ZnpRA&feature=share (Dutchsinse-quakes can spread south Cascadia-California and South East-Yellowstone) https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3792 and https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3791 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD1GUR4Dgcc
After an M6.8 in the central Atlantic followed by a deep 583km-m6.4 Fiji-quake an increase in seismic activity may be expected. |
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USGS is showing quite a lot of seismic activity in western US. Methane levels also up-could be caused by present earthquakes-could also be a sign of "increase in seismic activity". https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/
Summed up, pressure transfers from the West coast to the East coast of the United States. The West coast itself is pushed from the Pacific, which ultimately is pushed by the deep earthquakes which occur far below the West Pacific plate. The West Pacific plate pushes North America, thus when an increase in activity is observed on the Western side of the Pacific, within days there usually is similar increases in the East Pacific + United States. This process of pressure transfer is talking place currently. We need to be prepared for possible larger movement, not only in the West Pacific, but off the coast of the United States, Central America, and South America. Remember, have a plan, don’t be scared , be prepared. http://www.thebigwobble.org/2017/10/a-magnitude-67-141km-nne-of-palue.html |
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Thanks, Dutch Josh! I'm still waiting for my bogus Dutch passport so I can bug outta here!!
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CRS, DrPH
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CRS,DrPH always welcome in "Holland" (=western part of the Netherlands) to admire our tulips, dike's and windmills ! The rest of the Netherlands also loves tourists !
There is a shortage on the labourmarket for some jobs here so.... ! Hope that when eartgquake-pressure is there it will translate (maybe even due to "fracking. human intervention) a swarm of small quakes. A very large quake (M8+) hitting the (western) US would destabilize the globe even further...
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https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us1000c2zy#executive M7.6 east of Honduras-south of Cuba with several aftershocks.
https://www.facebook.com/dutchsinseofficial/ (with several links) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN2gQnwH9SU MrMBB333 noting strange water movements in the area prior to the major earthquake. All tsunami-warnings cancelled http://www.tsunami.gov/events/PHEB/2018/01/10/18010000/3/WECA40/WECA40.txt DJ-Earthquakes can cause earthquakes-see what coming days may bring. http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/1904-major-m7-6-earthquake-strikes-caribbean-sea
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#ATTN 7.9 Earthquake off Alaska, POSSIBLE wave heading towards AK & Pacific NW coastlines
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1/23/1735224/--ATTN-8-2-Earthquake-off-Alaska-30-foot-wave-heading-towards-AK-Pacific-NW-coastlines UPDATE already tsunami warning cancelled |
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After the UK-quake http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-43097113 M4.4, several quakes in the Arctic (most likely bringing out methane-if the quake itself is not caused by an (almost) explosive methane outburst) we have https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-17/ring-fire-quake-cluster-prompts-scientists-warn-large-rupture-sooner-later.
http://www.thebigwobble.org/2018/02/boom-powerful-mag-72-rocks-mexico-with.html. There must be statistics on earthquakes to show wether we are in an "active" or "passive" period. I can imagine there is not enough data for good calculations on it. (It is very hard to include all the mini-quakes eventhough put together they may require more energy than all M7+ quakes put together.) My nightmare-scenario would be a major https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-Atlantic_Ridgequake sending tsunami's to eastern North America/western Europe. https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/886402/earthquake-big-one-mid-atlantic-ridge-earthquakes-usgs.
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Just as information: All four seismic "Faults" in New Jersey and eastern Pennsylvania have suddenly begun spewing large amounts of Carbon Monoxide (CO) gas from the ground as of 9:44 AM eastern US time Saturday. The amount of gas coming out of the ground is so large - more than ten times higher than _anywhere_ else in the country -- that satellites in space have picked-up the occurrence. When seismic faults start doing this, it is SOMETIMES (not always) a precursor to an earthquake. As of 9:44 AM EDT, CO levels are over 2,600 parts per billion (ppb) in much of northern New Jersey, ten times higher than anywhere else in the United States or the world! In other circumstances, like during winter, these levels can accrue by virtue of many people running furnaces to keep warm. But this morning, the temperature in most of New Jersey is in the mid 50's; hardly any kind of cold wave. At other times, activity from people in the form of traffic can cause spikes in CO levels, but overnight is not any kind of "peak" rush hour traffic anywhere. So if it's not furnaces dealing with terribly cold temperatures, and it's not rush hour, the only other explanation is ground burst CO . . . and the emissions seen on the satellite model image shown above, show the existence of CO gas along all four seismic faults: The Ramapo Fault, It is important to tell you that gaseous emissions from the ground DO NOT NECESSARILY PROVE ANY EARTHQUAKE IS ACTUALLY COMING. No one can forecast an earthquake and I am NOT doing that with this story. |
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(DJ-There is so much "news" it is getting impossible to follow all developments.....)
DJ-A major explosive eruption in Hawaii may cause a tsunami-wave allover the Pacific Ocean. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Without_a_Summer A large ash-cloud could effect climate-and food production, logistics etc.
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MrMBB333 seeing record number of earthquakes around the globe (normal 250-350 per week-active time 500-now over 1100 this week) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UAbgLWUgnQ
http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/u-s-national-news/2486-fears-of-tsunami-for-u-s-west-coast-as-erupting-hawaii-volcano-fractures-massive-unstable-landmass DJ-Yes-volcanic eruptions, earthquakes can cause tsunami's that go global (A 100 feet tall/30 meter high wave going 500 miles-800 kilometres per hour will cause global massive disaster. Those-once in a million year-or less-events did happen in Earths history. It could happen again-but that should not cause panic but planning ! International cooperation is urgently needed to deal with global problems !!!) Looking at USGS earthquakes I (DJ) wonder if volcanic systems can be connected-deep inside the planet-over extreme distances. Is "the ring of fire" maybe more one gigantic system ?
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MrMBB333-on Hawaii https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOoIJocJSio
and California https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y7kUu-JLZk
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http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/u-s-national-news/2520-hawaii-civil-defense-warns-of-explosive-eruption-of-kilauea-volcano-within-48-hours DJ-There is a chance for tsunami's, mega-quake's etc. - most likely not all of the "Hilina Slump" will slide into the ocean (in one time). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilina_Slump DJ-There are some indications volcano's might be connected over long distances-at great depth. In theory one could imagine a "mega-super-volcano-system" over a very large area https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberian_Traps.
An AP report suggests the eruption of a Hawaii volcano in the Pacific “Ring of Fire” has experts warily eyeing volcanic peaks on America’s West Coast that are also part of the geologically active region. The West Coast is home to an 800-mile (1,300-kilometer) chain of 13 volcanoes, from Washington state’s Mount Baker to California’s Lassen Peak. News Alert - Hawaii Kilauea Volcano New Fissures Open, Greater Threat On The Way
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http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=VE-20180504-62944-USA and http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/u-s-national-news/2532-usgs-changes-kilauea-volcano-alert-warning-to-red DJ-Increase in quakes and eruptions could mean further larger movements on their way.
Also other volcanic activities increasing
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DJ-If a deep earthquake is causing stronger shallow quakes a M8.2 deep quake (and a swarm at great depth) should be a strong warning.
http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/3015-breaking-magnitude-8-2-earthquake-in-pacific-ocean-near-fiji DutchSinse; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABS4mF2s2jo |
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That is amazing, DJ! Thank you! Even over here in the UK (well clear) we are checking our bug-out-bags.
That huge asthenosphere quake is an once-in-a-lifetime event! Oh, and I am also learning some new geological stuff too. |
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Techno, the idea that a deep earthquake may cause M1 to 2 stronger shallow(er) quakes is NOT official science (as far as I know). DutchSinse (a.o.) is spreading that idea-with enough time (10 days) time will tell.
My impression is that there seems to be statistics linking deep quakes with stronger shallower quakes. The M8.2 quake at a depth of 563,4 kilometres is part of a very major swarm of 500 km+ deep quakes near Fiji. http://www.thebigwobble.org/2018/08/pacific-grim-very-powerful-magnitude-72.html http://www.thebigwobble.org/2018/08/four-more-major-quakes-hit-pacific-rim.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j53RTHGboE DutchSinse has a big job-hope the damage will stay limited (nobody wants a M9+ quake). |
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Hi Josh. I've wondered this for the last few years. Are you DutchSinse?
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I looked him up. What a huge arguement rages about him.
Overall, new scientific thinking starts out on the fringe. "Mainstream" science is hoary with age. Most great scientific theories are laughed at in the beginning. So I hunt for new stuff out on the fringe. Sadly, for every Isaac Newton there are a thousand reincarnations of Napoleon/Neffertiti, People receiving telepathic signals from Alpha Centauri and builders of perpetual motion machines. As if that was not enough, some of the truly visionary geniuses are also mad. Tesla was in love with a pidgeon with light up eyes, for God's sake! DutchSinse seems reasonably sane - if a bit excitable. I have read sceptics arguing that his predictions are only about 80% accurate. Most seismologists would trade 2 or 3 limbs and their immortal soul for 50%! So my personal jury is out - just like yours - but I am starting to lean gently towards belief. |
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DutchS has his critiques, but he's solid. I've seen his youtube videos and used to watch him. He's on it.
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No-I am not DutchSinse, I think he should try to keep his presentations to the point-short. But I see it as a compliment when someone even thinks I might be DutchSinse.
He is quite often correct-in my opinion-with his "predictions"-but I stopped following him when his presentations took over 1 hour. If there would be 48 hours in a day-I still would use them all.... |
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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-20/watch-out-california-53-major-earthquakes-just-hit-ring-fire-24-hour-period and https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/July-2018-Earths-4th-Warmest-July-Record are related.
Good point from the ZH-article; the strongest deep earthquake ever recorded in 2013 M8.3 was NOT followed by a shallower bigger quake. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoNJ5BlzEYE Robert Scribler on the Arctic-sea ice. Less ice on Greenland and Northern Canada is less pressure-land going up-seismic shifts of pressure. (There is 3 kilometer of ice on Greenland pushing the landmass under it 1 kilometer down=less ice is land coming up.) |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZOVvMKg-Gk MrMBB333 on the 7.3 deep Venezuela earthquake. DJ-If there is a relationship with the very deep Fiji-quakes-swarm (and/or the Alaska-and Indonesia swarm going on a bit longer) were to expect a next M6+ quake ?
Japan ? New Zealand ? Chili ? Or will there be a major quake in the Mid-Atlantic (so outside the "ring-of-fire"). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei8-epc2w6o&t=25s In2thinair also discussing events. DJ-There also seems to be a combination of (strong) hurricanes with seismic events. (Partly explained sometimes by the amount of water that is moved-a m3 is 1000 kilo's, so a big storm is replacing extreme weights.) |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWy3tqCG7Pw In2thinair reporting on major earthquakes-Oregon and hurricanes Hawaii, Korea, Japan.
USGS just giving yet another M6+Tanaga Volcano-Alaska, and another M5.5 543KM very deep Fiji quake....(you can keep watching USGS-several major quakes per day (just crazy !!!) http://www.thebigwobble.org/2018/08/the-third-major-quake-of-day-is-little.html (related to) http://www.thebigwobble.org/2018/08/meteorologist-described-loss-of-ice-as.html and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQQAZOAzDNA North of Greenland without ice. |
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This http://www.thebigwobble.org/2018/09/a-powerful-magnitude-66-rocks-fiji.html may be related to this http://www.thebigwobble.org/2018/09/death-toll-to-rise-to-thousands-after.html
A M6.6 quake at depth of 551.2 kilometer may cause stronger shallow quakes. There is a swarm of (strong) deep quakes in the Fiji area-and a lot of strong quakes most around the Pacific "ring of fire". Hurricanes-with it movement of large amounts of water-means pressure is on the move further worsening the seismic situation. Faster climate change=more seismic activity (also due to less ice pushing down on Greenland, Antarctica etc. If the 3 km thick layer of ice would go away the underlying land would rise 1 kilometer.) http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2018/09/30/quake-triggered-mudflow-flattens-palu-villages-thousands-feared-dead.html horror video-ground becoming liquid-houses etc sink in mud ! |
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http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/u-s-national-news/3515-massive-earthquake-smashes-anchorage-tsunami-warnings-issued (DJ-The tsunami warning seems local-could do damage to Anchorage ???? Quakes just west of Anchorage.)
https://www.rt.com/usa/445277-tsunami-warning-anchorage-alaska/: The quake reportedly caused “severe damage” to roads, bridges and water pipes, according to the US Department of the Interior. Photos from Anchorage show cracks in the buildings, buckled road onramps, and no power in several areas of the city. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXjwvxWfRgADutchSinse, A deep quake in Italy may be a warning for more quakes in the area. The M7.2 in Alaska (near Kodiak) could give stronger quakes in Alaska and south. https://www.emsc-csem.org/Earthquake/earthquake.php?id=728983 M5.3 depth 400km 266km east of Roma. (DJ-I noticed M4.2 in west Canada and Oregon prior to the M7.2. More risks for Yellowstone as well ?) https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-30/magnitude-66-earthquake-strikes-anchorage-tsunami-warning-issued |
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Damaging Anchorage will affect the whole region
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