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we are that conceited ,
that we think this earth was made for ..... US........ |
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Yes the Creator did create this planet for humans.
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Jesus Christ died and was raised on the third day, the only "God" to overcome death.
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absolute RUBBISH, man INVENTED the creator!!!!!! when he didnt know any better..... and kindly leave this "god botherer" rubbish off this site..........
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OK I will bite
are your parents two of the 12 monkeys on all your posts.
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Jesus Christ died and was raised on the third day, the only "God" to overcome death.
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Sophisticated hackers 'aim to put net out of action'http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-37360814 |
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We share 98.5% of our DNA with our closest relative the chimpanzee,where you conceived and birthed any differently than a chimpanzee.....doubt it!!!!!
And getting personal just shows how small and narrow minded you are..... |
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At this moment Russia is preparing nuclear weapons, Pakistan is getting ready for war with India after a terrorist attack in Kasmer-India. North Korea is preparing for war with South Korea, US and Japan.
China and Russia consider IS as a US-proxy-army wich is aimed against their countries. Israel does not want Iran or Hezbollah near its borders but is facing Russian S400 anti-aircraft systems in Syria. The world is a powder keg that can explode any minute.... Climate-wise the antarctic summer will see a sharp increase in melt of land ice, more storms etc. Greenland is facing extreme land-ice melt. Warmer ocean waters itself is expanding the water, creating a larger volume. Sealevelrise will go faster with more and stronger storms, more extreme rainfall. Insects etc. are on the move and so are the illnesses they spread. Political and economic unrest will increase-with several elections in the US and Europe seeing candidates from outside the estheblishment. You can not expect to pay debts by creating more debts. Somewere it will stop. The massive fraudulent scheme in wich public createdmoney is used to buy private debts is resulting in increasing poverty for most of us while an "elite" is getting richer (and more powerfull). Economy and politics have mixed in a very unhealthy way.
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Yes you spot on ,Dutch Josh,very scary times
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Global Warming Could Wipe Out Breakfast Cereals By 2070http://www.newsweek.com/global-warming-will-wipe-out-breakfast-cereals-2070-study-503743 good luck prepping for that |
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interesting little story about resources
Peak salt: is the desalination dream over for the Gulf states?http://peakoil.com/consumption/peak-salt-is-the-desalination-dream-over-for-the-gulf-states us fire monkeys maybe too smart for our own good ? |
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http://thebulletin.org/%E2%80%98we%E2%80%99d-have-finish-one-new-facility-every-working-day-next-70-years%E2%80%99%E2%80%94why-carbon-capture-no-panacea9949 With CO, CO2, Methane-levels rising technology to absorp greenhouse gasses from the atmosphere is needed urgently-but it is not there...
http://cci-reanalyzer.org/forecasts/#WORLD-CED temperatures-in the arctic and ant-arctic way above normal=melt of land-ice above normal will mean sealevel rise will increase.
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want some gloom and doom America ?
well here it is this is what we are becoming Curt Schilling Says Trump Eyeing A 10-Year-Old Was Totally Normalhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/curt-schilling-donald-trump-pedophilia_us_57fff531e4b0162c043b005a?section=& anybody want Uncle Curt to come over and babysit their daughter ??? any takers ??? |
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Warm ocean currents are slowing downhttp://earthsky.org/earth/warm-ocean-currents-are-slowing-down |
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There can be all kind of disasters-the main stream media will not report it !
News is "a product that has to bring profit" in the hands of a few companies that also sell power plants, weapons etc. Media are getting very concentrated. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-22/heres-30-seconds-after-last-debate-cnn-would-rather-you-didnt-see Pre-positions in the "independent" media (like excluding news on those in power because if you get to critical they will not invite you to their pressconference, the basic idea "we are right, the other is wrong" ) hinder realistic reporting. At this moment two major cities in the middle east are under siege. Mosul-were every civilian killed is "collateral damage" and Aleppo were every civilian killed is a "war crime". At least according to some politicians and "independent" media. The way western media ignores Fukushima, the Congo-war https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Congo_War (5,4 million people died due to that ongoing war), the close to major war relations between East and West, escalating climate change etc. comes close to criminal.
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Trump may prove to be the least of our worries
Arctic Sea Ice Collapse Has Destabilized the Stratospheric & Lower Atmospheric Circulations http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/11/16/1600223/-Arctic-Sea-Ice-Collapse-Has-Destabilized-the-Stratospheric-Lower-Atmospheric-Circulations "The warm Arctic sea water has allowed warm storms to inject huge amounts of heat over the north pole raising surface temperatures to above freezing in areas that are normally twenty degrees below zero Fahrenheit. Temperatures today are 50ºF above normal near the pole." |
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http://arctic-news.blogspot.nl/2016/11/sea-ice-is-shrinking.html Both in the Arctic (it is supposed to get winter there !) as in Antarctica (moving to summer) sea-ice is getting to minimum levels for the time of year. Sea-ice keeps land-ice in its place=less sea-ice more land-ice will slide into the ocean.
The movement of landice can go slowly, glaciers once moved just very little per year-but for most glaciers the speed is increasing, some glaciers collapse increasing chances of ice-caused tsunami's. But also lakes of meltwater can break free when ice-dams break/melt. Sealevelrise will increase sharply and sometimes abruptly due to those processes. https://robertscribbler.com/2016/11/22/why-the-global-coral-bleaching-event-that-began-in-2014-may-just-keep-going-and-going/ warmer oceans effect sealive. https://robertscribbler.com/2016/11/18/arctic-storms-sparked-severe-polar-warming-sea-ice-melt-for-november-2016/ More warming=stronger storms=less ice=more warm air/water moving to the poles. https://paulbeckwith.net/2016/11/19/our-climate-change-emergency-three-legged-bar-stool-survival-three-videos/ Things can be done, should be done but "power is money is fossil fuels". So the "shore has to stop the ship" because the captains (politics) fail. Since we are all on this ship we all will pay.
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Humans 'don't have 10 years' left thanks to climate change - scientisthttp://www.newshub.co.nz/world/humans-dont-have-10-years-left-thanks-to-climate-change---scientist-2016112408 |
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According to this quack we only have about 10 years left. He isn't a good source on this subject.
"McPherson bills himself as a scientist simply passing along the science (even as he dismisses climate scientists and their work), but he cites nearly as many blog posts and newspaper columns as published studies. When he does cite a study, it’s often clear that he hasn’t taken the time to actually read it, depending instead on a news story about it." "McPherson leans heavily on claims from people associated with the “Arctic News” blog about a catastrophic, runaway release of methane that supposedly is already underway in the Arctic. Unfortunately (or, rather, fortunately), the data don’t match their assertions. The latest IPCC and NAS assessment reports, in fact, deemed such a release “very unlikely” this century. One reason for that is that the Arctic has been this warm or warmer a couple times in the last 200,000 years, yet that methane stayed in the ground." https://fractalplanet.wordpress.com/2014/02/17/how-guy-mcpherson-gets-it-wrong/ |
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Global Warming is really about the global welfare state and the redistribution of natural resources in the new One World Government.
http://joannenova.com.au/2010/02/the-big-picture-65-million-years-of-temperature-swings/ |
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I think it's a little more involved that that. Rising sea levels, ocean acidification, mass extinctions, unparalleled habitat loss, severe weather events, famine, glacial melting. You know, that kind of thing. |
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"Buy it cheap. Stack it deep"
"Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary. |
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when the USA was settled there was only
2 billion people on this planet since 1850 the start of the INDUSTRIAL AGE we have added 5 billion people ,billons of cars,airplanes ,powered boats, THAT burn fossil fuels made from the carbon that has been stored for millions of years and is being released all at once BY HUMANS..... those people that refuse to see it are blind...... most people dont even know where the meat on the table comes from , so try explaing to them that "YOUR FUEL " comes from dead plants and animals that died millions of years ago, the population has been DUMBED DOWN , bring on the BIRD FLU....... |
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Average Arctic temperature in Svalbard 'could end up above freezing for first time in history' |
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news like this is now happening on an almost daily basis
and still there are people who deny anything is wrong wake up and smell the coffee Hurricane Otto still going as tropical cyclone, into the record books – 2016 was the ‘year-long’ hurricane season http://www.desdemonadespair.net/2016...-tropical.html NASA: The last three Octobers are the warmest Octobers on record http://www.desdemonadespair.net/2016...e-warmest.html Climate models: each 1°C increase in global temperature reduces global wheat production by average of 5.7 percent http://www.desdemonadespair.net/2016...crease-in.html in my neck of the woods,we went through an EXTENDED period this summer where we got 3-5 inches of rain virtually EVERY week,often more than that landscaping that I have had for decades,rotted and now we're in a drought |
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Donald Trump Still Thinks Climate Change Is ‘A Bunch Of Bunk’http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-climate-change_us_583b16e3e4b000af95ee85dd "But the man who claimed numerous times that climate change is “an expensive hoax,” “a concept...created by and for the Chinese” and “bull*****” still believes it is “a bunch of bunk,” according to his incoming chief of staff, Republican National Committee chairman Reince Priebus." we're passing one climate tipping point after another the climate is becoming increasingly chaotic we NEED aggressive,COMPETENT leadership on climate issues NOW every second that goes by is a lost opportunity Trump is gonna be responsible for a LOT of DEATHS in the coming years we desperately need a Churchill ,a Washington,a Lincoln and what do we get? A Drumpf listen closely,the fat lady is just about to sing |
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Good documentry, carbon20 ! Although at the end 3foot of sealevelrise is unrealistic.
Some other remarks on the very complex proces: -wind is a major factor. It blows snow, erodes ice, into the ocean on a much larger scale the previously believed. -Landice has elasticity. Landmass coming up due to less ice on top of if, melt of landice means satelite data may get wrong measurements: the thickness of the icelayer may seem not to have changed much when you only take measurements off the surface, also the qaulity of the landice has changed-less compressed. So in fact satelite data could indicate a smaller loss of (land)ice than there is in reality. -Although the documentary gives some insight, meltwater under the landice (both in Greenland and Antarctica) (as far as I understand DJ) has formed large lakes under the ice-melting the ice from the underside. (Salt water-ice melts by -2 C, with more pressure it could even melt easier). The big risk that what we see with glacier-melt is just small compared by what is underway: landice itself on the move with gigantic pieces sliding into the ocean. (Landmass pushing ice up, seaice not strong enough to stop it). -The polar regions are warming up much faster than global average. Methane also is a big problem. Seawater stores warmth while ice reflects most of the solar energy... All together the outlook is dramatic. Only we do not have enough data to predict/calculate the total effects. With more melt new feed-backs can arise changing the total picture.
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Rising sealevels yet shortage of drinking-water http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-27/china-escalates-tensions-asias-water-wars
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there is a major challange on the way ,
glacier melt in the Himalayas, BILLIONS of people rely on this for water guess what its running OUT, off shore Methane that is stored frozen underwater is melting at a great rate , this will be a massive game changer... |
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Huge glacier retreat triggered in 1940sBy Jonathan AmosBBC Science Correspondent
< method="get" ="http://www.bbc.co.uk/modules/share/page" style="border: 0px; color: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-family: inherit; font-weight: inherit; letter-spacing: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: line;">Share The melting Antarctic glacier that now contributes more to sea-level rise than any other ice stream on the planet began its big decline in the 1940s. This is when warm ocean water likely first got under Pine Island Glacier (PIG) to loosen the secure footing it had enjoyed up until that point. Researchers figured out the timing by dating the sediments beneath the PIG. It puts the glacier’s current changes in their proper historical context, the scientists tell Nature magazine. These changes can now be regarded as unprecedented in thousands of years. Not only is the glacier going backwards, it is also thinning fast - losing more than 2m in elevation every year. Other field studies and computer models suggest a runaway collapse might even be possible. The PIG on its own could add up to 10mm to sea levels over the next couple of decades. "This glacier used to be pinned to a ridge and once it moved away from that ridge, it started to retreat rapidly; and without other pinning points it could continue to retreat rapidly inland, contributing significantly to global sea level," Dr James Smith from the British Antarctic Survey told BBC News. The PIG is a colossal feature that drains a region of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet some two-thirds the size of the UK. It is a marine-terminating glacier, which means its front flows off the land and pushes out into the ocean along the seafloor until its mass begins to lift up and float. Eventually, the buoyant section breaks up to form icebergs. Currently, the PIG is dumping about 130 billion tonnes of ice in the ocean every year. Submersible surveys under its floating front - its "ice shelf" - had revealed the contact point with the seabed once draped over a large ridge. Having a "grounding line" in such a position would have helped anchor and constrain the whole glacier. Some of the earliest satellite imagery indicated the PIG must have broken free completely of this pinning bump in the 1970s, but when exactly it started to disengage was far less certain. It could have been many decades previously; several centuries or even millennia ago. Now, Dr Smith and colleagues look to have solved this problem. They drilled through the ice shelf to sample, analyse and date the muddy sediments that cover the ridge. And their investigation reveals that warm water is likely to have started to melt a cavity in the grounded glacier behind the pinch point in about the mid-1940s. One of the reasons they can be sure of the timing is because of where plutonium traces start to appear in the sediment layers. This radioisotope is a tell-tale signature for the atomic bomb tests that began in earnest after WWII and which peaked in the 1960s. It leaves open the question of why the unpinning of the PIG occurred when it did, but the team point to the strong warming the region would have experienced following a big El Nino event between 1939 and 1942. El Ninos are associated with the development of particular wind patterns and warm water movements in the Central Pacific, but the impacts affect weather globally. "It's an amazing teleconnection that far-field changes can really have a profound impact on the Antarctic ice sheet," said Dr Smith. Significantly, however, El Nino conditions have waxed and waned over the decades since, but the PIG now continues its relentless retreat. Dr Anna Hogg from Leeds University, UK, monitors Pine Island Glacier on a daily basis using Europe's Cryosat and Sentinel satellites. These spacecraft can measure from orbit the velocity and thickness of the ice stream. She commented: "We know from satellite observations that the PIG has sped up and retreated episodically since the late 1970s, so it’s interesting to see that the sediments beneath the glacier record similar periods of variability dating back to the 1940s. "This erratic past behaviour suggests that we should not expect these colossal glaciers to respond in a steady way in the future, making continuous monitoring increasingly important." Jonathan.Amos-INTERNET@bbc.co.uk and follow me on Twitter: @BBCAmos |
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Antarctica's Pine Island Glacier is breaking up from the inside out.
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/11/28/1604949/-Antarctica-s-Pine-Island-Glacier-is-breaking-up-from-the-inside-out according to "the Donald" this is just those mean old Chinese people playing a trick on us "“It’s generally accepted that it’s no longer a question of whether the West Antarctic Ice Sheet will melt, it’s a question of when,” said Ian Howat, associate professor of Earth sciences at Ohio State and lead author of the new study. “This kind of rifting behavior provides another mechanism for rapid retreat of these glaciers, adding to the probability that we may see significant collapse of West Antarctica in our lifetimes.” just at a time when we need real LEADERSHIP on climate change we have it the least |
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/08/17/these-stunning-blue-lakes-just-gave-us-a-new-reason-to-worry-about-antarctica/?utm_term=.ae2be6ff1767
The Washington Post video-link claims that melt would be a process of hundreds of years. Robert Scribler is more realistic; meltwater lakes speed up melting because the meltwater works like a lens. Warm meltwater flows into the ice speeding up the melt from above. Warm sea-water speeds up melt from sea-ice from under the ice. Storms break up (fresh) sea-ice. Methane means temperatures going up further. Earthquakes could break up land-ice-pushing amounts of land-ice into the sea (made easier by layers of meltwater under the ice) hard to imagine. Sealevelrise will not go smoothly, most likely it-for the most-could come in tsunami-like waves. Radioactivity-from nuclear testing, leaking powerplants, storage of nuclear waste getting under water, is effecting the polar regions-increasing melt.
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I hate to say it, folks, but we are screwed. Royally. In the Arctic, there are record high temperatures, and the Arctic sea ice extent continues to be imperiled. Game over.
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Wait until melting glaciers trigger water wars - India and Pakistan will probably be among the first countries to get serious about that one. Not good considering their history of conflict and animosity. Oh, and the nukes...
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/are-india-pakistan-brink-water-war-indus-waters-treaty-explained-1584218 |
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Proberbly it is not a question "if" but "when" and "how". I do not think sealevel will rise spread even-but it will go slow and then a burst of water-when gigantic pieces of ice slide into the ocean-pushing sealevel maybe several centimeters in a very short time ( a tsunami-like wave spreading around the globe in 20 to 30 hours ?).
That piece of land-ice moving into the water will cause an uplift of the underlying landmass-giving more waves, but also seismic waves, earthquakes. Proberbly it also will influence the jet-stream, cause gigantic storms-the airmass following the tsunami-like waves but moving further inland. Another "gloom & doom" proces going on is the melting of permafrost in the mountains. Ice is keeping mountains glued together-when the ice melts, mountains collapse. Landslides, already frequent in many area's will get larger, effect rivers and watersupply. I choose to live on "hopium" and also to enjoy every good day "we"have. I hope I am wrong, that nature can correct itself, science was wrong. An unforseen loop-back that starts re-freezing (some cooling gas from the earths mantle ?). I am not a scientist-may be completely wrong ! Or are we living in dreamland, is our time passed-are we a failed experiment of nature. Is planet Earth getting rid of a "human infection"? |
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The Areas America Could Abandon First
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The Arctic Goes Bonkershttp://www.counterpunch.org/2016/11/30/the-arctic-goes-bonkers/ "The Arctic is breaking records left and right!" Nobody really has any idea if and/or when Runaway Global Warming (RGW) will hit civilization like a ton of bricks, but lo and behold scientists do have knowledge of an extreme case in the paleoclimate record: Fifty-five (55) million years ago, global temps increased by 5° C within 13 years; CO2 in the atmosphere was 1,000 ppm and there was no ice on the planet, gulp." and on the political side what do we have to look forward to ? this " Here’s more horrible news from Union of Concerned Scientists: “Myron Ebell—one of the world’s most prominent and vocal climate change deniers—has been tasked with overseeing the [Trump] transition of the nation’s Environmental Protection Agency. The very agency tasked with implementing the nation’s leading plan for curbing global warming pollution—the Clean Power Plan,” (The Union of Concerned Scientists). And, that’s not all, here’s more horrible news: “Steven Groves of the Heritage Foundation was named to lead president-elect Trump’s State Department transition. Groves penned, just last week, an article advocating a speedy withdrawal from the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change, to which we’ve been a party since its ratification in 1992. It’s a move that would scrap our commitments under the landmark Paris Climate Agreement—you know, that thing that stands between us and catastrophic warming,” (The Union of Concerned Scientists)." "leadership on climate change has been weak under Obama,it will go backwards with Trump at least from what we have seen so far |
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https://news.osu.edu/news/2016/11/28/pineisland/ The difference between land-ice and sea-ice in some areas is difficult when ice is on land below sealevel. When seawater reaches there land-ice becomes sea-ice. There are indications that this proces is more widespread than expected-meaning that sealevelrise will go faster than expected.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/26/science/26obearth.html and http://e360.yale.edu/digest/soils_could_release_55_trillion_kilograms_carbon_midcentury/4853/ Both methane and CO2 are going up due to melting permafrost, climate change related causes. Meaning that CO2 reductions by humans will not be enough to stop the proces of global warming. https://robertscribbler.com/2016/12/02/beyond-the-point-of-no-return-imminent-carbon-feedbacks-just-made-the-stakes-for-global-warming-a-hell-of-a-lot-higher/ and http://blog.ucsusa.org/erika-spanger-siegfried/global-warming-in-the-arctic-a-sensitive-climate-gone-off-the-rails and http://www.aces.su.se/study-sheds-new-light-into-the-link-between-thawing-permafrost-and-climate-change/ http://cci-reanalyzer.org/wxrmaps/#GFS-025deg.WORLD-CED.T2_anom New climate reanalyzer-at the poles temperatures are to high meaning ice-loss will give problems in the short term. From M H Hensel on facebook: The West Antarctic sea ice has disintegrated, melted and/or pulled away from much of the West Antarctic shoreline. 11/30/2016 This is exposing the ice sheets and glaciers to the erosion of the ocean waves and warmer water. The second image is for reference of where the Thwaites Glacier is. |
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Where Climate Change Will Bring Extreme Rainfall to the U.S.
http://www.citylab.com/weather/2016/12/climate-change-rain-storm-projections-research-noaa/509675/?utm_source=yahoo&yptr=yahoo Is Sudan doomed to become 'uninhabitable'? https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/a60e88aa-273f-3375-ae52-fa20bca49b31/ss_is-sudan-doomed-to-become.html |
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The temperature increase is supposed to go all the way to Saudi Arabia according to your link above. The earth has been hotter than we are now based on the evidence. We might be temporarily warming up, but in the larger scheme of things we are actually cooler than in the past. Below is a link that you might want to read. I'm leaning towards the idea that global warming is a scam, but since I'm not a scientist I can't say one way or the other. I am skeptical that global warming is actually real. Just in case, though, we've done our part by replacing most incandescent bulbs with LED's or fluorescent because they use less energy. We've also planted trees. http://www.newsmax.com/Finance/MKTNews/Global-Warming-climate-change/2014/11/17/id/607827/ I'm at that point in my life where I believe that selfish behavior rules most this world so it makes sense that people would push this global warming agenda as a means to line their pockets. Wouldn't it make sense that if there really was global warming that the world's scientists could come to some sort of agreement about it? We could argue whether global warming is real all day long, but all we can really do is to act prudently with our energy just in case. Since there is a finite amount of oil on this planet anyway, using less is the right thing to do. Here are things that we can all be doing to combat global warming, just in case it is real. http://globalwarming-facts.info/50-tips/?singlepage=1 |
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that Newsmax article is pure crap
that so called info was debunked long ago not gonna waste my time on it and John Casey ? been debunked numerous times and Luongo keeps mentioning 22 billion like its a large sum of money yeah if your from a third world country get real ! and I love the sales pitch at the end who is making more money global warming scientists or those corporation opposing it ? do I really need to answer that ? 22 billion LMAO !!! |
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