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Originally posted by Satori Satori wrote:

Bannon: Trump presidency we fought for is over


http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/bannon-trump-presidency-we-fought-for-is-over/ar-AAqjmRE?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=wispr


""His natural tendency — and I think you saw it this week on Charlottesville — his actual default position is the position of his base, the position that got him elected."


and a big thank you to Mr Bannon for finally speaking the truth and telling many what we have long suspected

that quote says it all

racists,white supremacists,KKK types,some out in the open ,others not so much


the UGLY side of AMuRIkA is increasingly out in the open



This is an incredible misquote of the media of Bannon. In fact, it has been said imitation if the most sincere form of flattery - and I am flattered as I continue to try to get The Real News - CWN on video. It is already online on Facebook and the website.

CNN still can't get their ducks in a row. What did Bannon say exactly? First if you keep misspelling America I will get you confused with a terrorist who used to write me and tell me they were going to nuke Seattle which they almost did in Cave of Darkness. His spelling was Amerika - and he claimed to be the real deal. Where are you from that you can't even spell America?

Now back to Bannon:

Ousted White House chief strategist Stephen Bannon returned to the conservative Breitbart News website on Friday and said he’ll be “going to war” for President Donald Trump, vowing to intensify the fight he has waged against opponents of his brand of populist conservatism.

“If there’s any confusion out there, let me clear it up: I’m leaving the White House and going to war for Trump against his opponents -- on Capitol Hill, in the media, and in corporate America,” Bannon told Bloomberg News Friday in his first public comments after his departure was announced.

What exactly is confusing about this? He going to war for Trump against his opponents. Perhaps English 101a should be required for all U.S. citizens. 

Once again the media is off on a rant and they can't even find new news on the weekend and keep reprinting the same news stories.

So today a conservative group peacefully demonstrated in Boston. They had to cut it short after a social justice warrior (one of 15,000) grabbed an elderly lady holding an American flag and threw her on the ground.

Another article covers the number of token blacks in the Democratic party.

You realize of course Republican does not equal Nazi or White Supremacist and they are not all old farts living two lives and with their sheets on at night -burning crosses and terrorizing blacks.

No, some are a group who think the racism is now coming from what was the minorities as well as cop killers and the Children of Anarchy who want chaos  and love a good demonstration to smash and break things and beat up elderly women.

How noble.

Freedom of speech. I have posted that after an almost government take over of minorities, especially in the presidency, there would be a rebound. Many would have, not the least Obama, wanted to see him in a third term. In fact, the setting up of the Ebola situation with a new way to declare a national emergency and revert back to martial law and call off the elections was a strategy in place.

If it could have worked, they would have done it. You know in history, the government has never given back power. Once they have invaded our privacy and freedom, it never reverts until there is a revolution. Of course, people like Jefferson said the there would be revolutions to sustain at least the Republic. The founding fathers never thought a democracy would work.  This would put power in the mob who would pass never-ending laws to pay them money from the government until it was broke.

We are on the verge of that now. If we don't raise the debt ceiling the government will be shut down.

People who go on about free speech - ie. S.J.W. - social justice warriors - do not want the conservatives to utter a syllable. They are not about free speech. They are about being heard with no real solutions except violence and assassination as a policy.

So we are all watched daily on our phones, in here, from cameras at intersections, even with our infrared images and some being harassed by ultra sound and microwaves.

All since 9-11 - All in the name of protecting us with a gene data base that is huge and the desire to use massive spying to take away all right of privacy in a climate of fear and suspicion.

What is the greatest enemy? The press.  And it is controlled by the same forces and special interests and big money - while the common people think it is for them. It is not. It is all about money and those without it - support them as they pedal yellow journalism and Jerry Springer drama.

It is mostly lies.

So, as I try to set up "The Real News" - have been for 3 years - Looks like Bannon did some simple addition and left the White House (creating his own demise) to go make a ton of money doing Independent News.

Well - good luck Bannon. It won't belong before some left wing crazy is waving your head in the air on some video using special effects and calling you a Nazi. Waiting for the book Bannon - I was a hostage of the S.J.W. and the Scientologists freed me and took me to Australia.

Sigh.

Wish we could go back to Kansas, Toto - we are sure not there anymore.

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‘Populist Hero’ Stephen K. Bannon Returns Home to Breitbart


http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2017/08/18/populist-hero-stephen-k-bannon-returns-home-breitbart/


hero?


HERO ???


I guess they have changed the definition of the word?


I wonder if people are beginning to fully realize what is happening in this country and TO this country?


HINT?


it ain't nothing good


dark days ahead for America

 DARK DAYS AHEAD


Trump and Bannon arent the disease but they are certainly are  the symptoms

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Bannon: Trump presidency we fought for is over


http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/bannon-trump-presidency-we-fought-for-is-over/ar-AAqjmRE?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=wispr


""His natural tendency — and I think you saw it this week on Charlottesville — his actual default position is the position of his base, the position that got him elected."


and a big thank you to Mr Bannon for finally speaking the truth and telling many what we have long suspected

that quote says it all

racists,white supremacists,KKK types,some out in the open ,others not so much


the UGLY side of AMuRIkA is increasingly out in the open

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Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.🖖

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Ps.  What is so generalized about Steve Bannon going?
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Mexican wall, which they will pay for
Cancellation of Obamacare
Those were the first to jump to mind.  Nothing has happened with North Korea that did not happen under previous administrations, except KJU has increased his weaponry and reach.  The stock market is up and so are the employment figures, part of which is Trump's doing, part a leftover from Obama.  The dollar has taken a big tumble.  That is good for export and big business, but makes the people even poorer as your buying power has diminished.

"Make America Great Again." is my personal favorite campaign promise.  He has.  America has become a great laughing stock.  That is not a generalization.  It is a simple fact right across Europe.
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These sweeping generalizations have no basis if facts. This merely the echo of the media who have been saying Trump was failing since the day he was sworn in. The economy is thriving. The stock market went up not down today after all this drama. And we just squared off with North Korea who backed down on launching nuclear missiles on Guam.

Media won't touch it or any other good things that Trump has doing or is doing. They ranted through the whole election with their polls he was losing. They lied. He won. They said it would be a landslide for Hillary and as least in electoral votes, it was a big majority for Trump.

He has fulfilled many of his campaign promises and continues to try to do the best he can against a hostile press who cannot even cover the news accurately.

Now, more than ever we need Independent Real News.

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Bannon Gone....

Just Chump to fall on his sword.....
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Steve Bannon who was instrumental in getting Trump "elected" is supposedly on his way OUT

in addition the remaining members of the Presidents Art Council have all resigned

and the dumpster fire that is the Trump Presidency continues to smolderLOL
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'And I was not advocating it.  I was condemning the EXCUSING of it and the attempt to make the argument racial.

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I wasn't applauding violence, Med. I was applauding a very well written rebuttal.


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Originally posted by jacksdad jacksdad wrote:

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One of the biggest problems is we are seeing more and more violence in the streets and people applauding that violence. That terrorist attack in Spain - it will not be long before the battleground for ISIS is here and while we are arguing and fighting - there will be a nuclear attack and a loss of life in a major city making 9-11 look pale in comparison.

I realize I can write what I feel and see what I see - but I cannot change people's minds who do not see the danger in the division of America. Just as I predicted the Pandemic and had people clapping each other who said that it was a joke and then it spread around the Planet.

What is happening is very serious. It is taking attention away for the issues and problems that are much more important.  Congress is not doing its job they are so wrapped up in the soap opera and Democrats more interested in getting re-elected than the survival of our country.

Personally, my days on this planet are numbered. I am only a few weeks from an operation I may or may not survive.  I have a 10 year old son who cannot even go to school things are so bad and dangerous and only a few miles away from me is Salinas where the murder rate is bad and like Chicago.

The ones I love are losing their health care in this mess and vital services are being denied to them - dialysis which is keeping them alive - is not covered. I am about to lose another person who I was about to marry.

Perhaps it is fine for the armchair warriors to go on about things, but some of us who are old and veterans are watching as groups take over and many of us who are disabled wouldn't last five minutes on the streets.

When I am gone - and it is a sad posting in AFT - and these issues become worse - when the President is assassinated and there is chaos and the violence from both sides are at war in the streets and the police won't go in because it is just too dangerous - then people will understand.

My father died in 1999 and never got to see the year 2000 on December the 26th the day after Christmas. He was not here to see 2001 - 9-11 I was not a Space Odyssey - it was the beginning of the Al Qaeda - and then spying on every American and the end to privacy.

Perhaps many people find all of this humorous. I don't.

This cheering is going to result to some crazy person arming themselves and shooting our president.  It won't result in a Democrat being in office and the VP Mike Pence reflects most of Trumps values and policies. In fact, it will be worse for the Democrats because they won't be able to ridicule and make fun of Pence as they do Trump.

It will be judgement day.

I will be with my ancestors - but you all will still have to deal with this as well a very real threat from North Korea which will set off a war. As well not one but 2 Pandemics - maybe 3 will sweep the planet at once.. not if, but when.

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A powerful Facebook reply to Trump from 91 year old British STAR TREK actor David Frankham

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/8/17/1690802/-A-powerful-Facebook-reply-to-Trump-from-91-year-old-British-STAR-TREK-actor-David-Frankham


David Frankham, the 91 year old British character actor from the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s who might be best remembered for playing Lawrence Marvick, the tragic designer of the USS Enterprise, on Star Trek: The Original Series, recently posted a stunning response to Donald Trump on his Facebook page.

Many of us can condemn Nazis and Hitler in hindsight, in the abstract, but I’m afraid there are probably few left who can rebut Trump with the moral authority of having actually lived under attack from genuine Nazis.

DAVID FRANKHAM

August 13, 2017

“I make it a point not to get into politics on my Facebook page, but in light of our President’s comments on the murder in Charlottesville yesterday …

"We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides … We ALL must be united & condemn all that hate stands for. There is no place for this kind of violence in America. Lets come together as one!”

… as a WWII veteran of the British Army, I just feel the need to say:

I feel no inclination to unite with people who proudly wear the same symbol that was painted on the airplanes that dropped bombs on me and my family in London every night in 1941.

I feel no inclination to come together with people who wear the same symbol as those who caused the family six doors down from us to be vaporized one night, replaced by a giant crater …

... who dropped the incendiary bombs which, as a teenager, I patrolled our school with a bucket of sand to find and put out …

... and who tattooed a number on the arm of my BBC colleague, Renata, who told me in 1948 that she would have been next in line for extermination, but for the end of the war.

Unlike our President, apparently, I have no problem naming and condemning Nazis.”
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Don't hold your breath, Satori.  He is a clever and slippery fellow.  It took a long time to bring Nixon down.  Trump would take longer, he is far less naive.

'And, sorry, hair and jumpsuit would clash horribly.
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now this is NOT real news
why?
cause its just talk and mere speculation and third party stuff at this point
and those of us with functioning brains can usually sort out fact from fiction from speculation

Trump's Longtime Business Partner Told Family He and POTUS Are 'Going to Prison': Report


http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/trumps-longtime-business-partner-told-family-he-and-potus-are-going-prison-report


but any Trump supporter who thinks Trumps legal problems are over

is DELUSIONAL


they are only just beginning


I think Trumps orange hair will go nicely with an orange prison jumpsuit LOL

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here is some REAL news fer ya
I say REAL,cause it REALLY happened !!!

OMG GOP Sen. Bob Corker: "Trump Has Not Shown the Stability or Competence to be President"

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/8/17/1690962/-OMG-GOP-Sen-Bob-Corker-Trump-Has-Not-Shown-the-Stability-or-Competence-to-be-President

I guess the bromance between Corker and Trump is over ?

neither "the stability or competence to be President"

WELL said sir
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One thing I have to thank the vandals for:  I have waited 25 years for a chance to use that word.

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I have just seen Trump pontificating about the vandalism of the left wing towards the confederate statues in the south.  He just did it again.  He drew a parallel that did not exist saying what next statues of Washington or Jefferson.  There is no comparison.

For what it is worth I think the statues should stay undamaged and the vandals are just that, vandals.  The period in history commemorated by those statues was very different from today.  What we now know to be wrong was not understood by the Confederates.  Those men died fighting for what they believed in.  I believe they were wrong, as I think all civilized people do today.  But courage needs to be celebrated even when it is misguided.    They fought for their country and their families after all.  Even if you do not share that opinion, you still can't change history.  Removing the statues will not return one dead slave to life or liberty.  Hiding it just helps it to be repeated.  You can't learn a lesson you don't remember.

However you see the statues, the "Left" attack them because they see them as symbols of hate.  Washington and Jefferson have no place in that deplorable floccinaucinihilipilification.  It is disingenuous to make such a comparison.

Now I know how Trump became President of the Largest democracy in the free world.  Scum floats!
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 I should also have said:  You claim to value the freedom of speech, but then verbally attack the left-wing protestors for exercising it, the press for encouraging it and anyone who speaks up against "Our Glorious Leader" including current* respected members of the Republican party not to mention past Republican Presidents.

The whole point of free speech is that it is free,.  That means pointing out what you disagree with, even when it goes against the party line.  That is both a right and a civic/moral duty!

Though I find Trump's racism disgusting and have many areas within which I disagree with him, he is entitled to hold, express and act upon those views.  However his attempts to disguise distort and deny the speech of others is the most heinous of his acts.  Calling anything which takes an alternative line, even when backed by proof, "fake news" is a symptom of that; so is accusing protestors for the "other side" names.

Well I have news for you Trump and your strumpetts.  There are still a few Americans who can think for themselves . They and the rest of the world can weigh up the actual facts as well.  "You can't fool all of the people all of the time." and we have heard the line "If you are going to tell a lie tell a big one." before too.  The media may not be trusted completely, but you make it look like gospel.  

Remember: America is not North Korea.






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Yep. What she said.


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Your first words, Med, were: "The far left violence...."  Just whom ended up dead, maimed or injured in Charlottsville?

I never did think Americans stupid.  Trump makes me want to rethink that.  Aside from the fact that his administration is so self conflicted he has only managed a few very minor changes, Germany have already shown the fallacy of the Trump-style leadership.  Repeating their mistakes is doubly stupid.

You said:  "And a new attitude about equality for all versus an obsession with civil rights is that this not a crisis - it is evolution. A time when we can rise about division and making race, gender, and religion so important and forcing it down the throats of everyone while crying out racism and hatred - when actually we need to unite. There are "bad boys and girls" on both sides of the fence with their pepper spray, helmets, and clubs bashing out windows and toppling statues. "  Well evolution was the big cry of the Nazis in pre-war Germany.  It led to eugenics, in a manner which gave eugenics a bad name!  As for unity, that is a president's first job yet Herr Trumpenfuhrer has sown discord even within his own party.

You said: "We have truly dangerous gangs which are formed largely from immigrants, criminals which have been deported multiple times and come and hide in sanctuary cities, and minority organizations that truly hate white people and are as racist as any white group has ever been."  Can you not hear yourself?  Yes there are.  But there are non immigrant, white gangs just as bad, sometimes worse, and often with less provocation.  YOU are being racist to single out only one group.  Crime is crime, irrespective of color, creed or any other distinction.  Show me the proof that the left started any violence at Charlottsville, if you can.  I can show you proof that they were the only side to lose anyone to violence.  As far as I can see the right were the only ones taking guns to the rally.

Your jobless rate is down, a bit, and who can say whether or not that was from this administration, or the policies, still working, of the previous?

As for the headlines on Trump: well why not?  Unlike him they are not lying and no amount of him tweeting "Fake news" makes them any less honest, or him more so.  They have oversight to stop them lying,he has been caught out by accident.

Christian values?  Don't make me laugh!  Jesus preached love, understanding, forgiveness and equality.  He did not judge anyone, except the moneylenders making a profit from religion at the cost of hardship to the poor = just like Trump's business dealings.  Caling yourself a Christian like he professes does not make you one.

You said about families:  "We need that back. Not figuring how to take care of the fatherless families which is crushing our economy and mommy out working not able to raise her children. This doesn't work. It hasn't for 10,000 years and it won't now. We need to get back. "  When it comes to raising children, they need love and time and care.  There is no gender/sexual distinction here.  Many "straight" couples have failed to provide this, and many have delivered judgments on children who did not meet their steriotypical values as well.  As for the fatherless ones, who increased the abortion controls?  Personally, I could never have one but denying it to other people means children born into loveless, fatherless situations.  I knew a young lady many years ago, before her suicide attempts, who was never adopted from her children's home as a child.  She never recovered from her rejection.  No one should face that.  She would have relished adoption by a gay couple.  She chose death as preferable to being an unwanted child.

Hilary had nothing to do with this argument.  Why bring her up?  

This is my favorite of your statements:  "You know - people who work don't have of time to protest. People who dedicate their lives to others and try to better our society as a whole, not just their race or group, have happy, fulfilled lives, money to spend and a place to live."  So how did the Alt-Right get there?  Did they astrally project from their offices?  Or did they teleport in their coffee breaks?

America has been shamed.  You were right about that.  But, it is Trump who was regarded as a laughing stock internationally.  We have (mostly) stopped laughing - now we are worried about the next Hitler in our midst.  The racisim Herr Trumpenfuhrer displayed, and is still displaying, is the most shameful part of all.
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Trump is just six Senate votes away from impeachment. And Republicans are deserting him fast

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Well, it appears that Herr Tumpenfuhrer has repeated/reiterated his first statement.  He has had time to think about it and, it appears, that his concern for voter numbers in the far right outweighs his care for the dead and injured or their families.  

I have no doubt that the left-wing protesters failed to behave in a peaceful fashion.  Angry people often do.  They seem to have had good reason to be angry.  That does not mean that they started it and they clearly caused less death and injury.

Herr Trumpenfuhrer says that he has watched all the footage and there were "bad" behaviors on both sides.  I have no way of telling if that is true.  I was not there.  I have watched all the footage I can find both on TV and online.  I could not make out who started anything.  On balance of probability, I find it hard to believe there was a significant amount of bad left wing behavior, as there seem to be no reported injuries on the far right. 

So, if they started it, show us the footage.  If there is footage only Herr Fuhrer has seen, he can show it to us.  If not, then he is proven to be a liar as well as a racist.


The far left violence and the media's obsession with pandering to them is not working. Trump is not a racist, he does not support the Klu Klux Klan nor the white supremacist and is not secretly connected or supporting them behind the scenes. The press, for the most part , is delusional. I think this was well phrased in an article I just read by Herman Cain on Fox -

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/16/herman-cain-trumps-critics-cant-make-racism-claim-stick.html


Critics and the liberal media can’t make a claim of racism stick against President Trump, former Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain said Wednesday on “Hannity.”

Speaking amid the controversy surrounding Trump's comments about the racially-charged violence in Charlottesville, Va., over the weekend, Cain said attempts from the president's opponents to change the narrative have failed.

“They couldn’t make ‘Russia, Russia, Russia,’ stick. They couldn’t make ‘refugees, refugees, refugees,’ stick. So, now the desperate attempt is ‘racism, racism, racism,’” Cain said.

“But here’s what they don’t understand: the American people are not stupid. Those people that are supporting Donald Trump because of the results he is getting and he is trying to get are not going to persuade Trump supporters to move over to the dark side. They have not just crossed the line, they’ve gone over the cliff. And the only people that are going over the cliff with them are those people that are just as deceived and deranged as they are. That’s what this is all about,” Cain said. “It’s their desperate attempt to try and get people to follow them off the cliff.”

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“They couldn’t make ‘Russia, Russia, Russia,’ stick. They couldn’t make ‘refugees, refugees, refugees,’ stick. So, now the desperate attempt is ‘racism, racism, racism,’” Cain said.

The effort to get him impeached for some delusional idea he was in some sinister plot with Russia while Hillary Clinton was in many sinister plots and providing pay for play for our enemies and is still under investigation.

The press cannot resist having people cyber rolling on the floor beating the crap of each other verbally in a parody of the Jerry Springer show. One of the key lines of the people who refuse to accept Trump is "don't confuse me with the facts". 

And a new attitude about equality for all versus an obsession with civil rights is that this not a crisis - it is evolution. A time when we can rise about division and making race, gender, and religion so important and forcing it down the throats of everyone while crying out racism and hatred - when actually we need to unite. There are "bad boys and girls" on both sides of the fence with their pepper spray, helmets, and clubs bashing out windows and toppling statues.

We have truly dangerous gangs which are formed largely from immigrants, criminals which have been deported multiple times and come and hide in sanctuary cities, and minority organizations that truly hate white people and are as racist as any white group has ever been.

We were debating all this and it comes down to free speech. No one has the right to discriminate and yet people don't have to like anyone. They have the choice to not like any race, religion, or gender as long as they are peaceful. That is called free speech. People have the right to assemble and express their views. They have a right to protest without being attacked by others who feel they do not have to tolerate those whose views they find disgusting.

The colleges do not have the right to ban conservative speakers because "they don't want to protect them" versus liberals who feed upon the system.

I saw recently a statement "jobs don't help the problem of discrimination".

The reality is - the nation is prospering, the jobless rate is down, the border is more secure and we have just survived a standoff and a possible nuclear war because Trump did not wuss out in dealing with Kim Jong -un as the whole world watched.

The media can continue to ignore this and parade liberals and republicans who object to Trump saying both sides were wrong after being on the brink of nuclear war.

Give the man credit. The media cannot make it through a day without a slamming headline on Trump. It has become the heroin of the Social Justice Warriors getting their daily fix from CNN, Washington Post, and the New York Times. Get a life people. He won.  There won't be an impeachment, killing policeman and neglecting the military will not secure our nation or protect us all.

We have a whining press.  It is like the continual nasal chant of someone out of touch with reality saying "I don't like it".

The real issues are not whether transgenders have bathrooms or gays can buy wedding cakes from Christian bakeries. They are whether we have a strong, no-nonsense leader who realizes the world is a business. It really is people. It is largely about money, and 99% of what is done is done to make it. We had morals once, deeper values, and families with a father, a mother, and children.

We need that back. Not figuring how to take care of the fatherless families which is crushing our economy and mommy out working not able to raise her children. This doesn't work. It hasn't for 10,000 years and it won't now. We need to get back.

Perhaps a new generation will someday revolt. You will see super-religious people, a return to love and the daddy and mommy - and an end to obsession with trying to get votes by pretending to love the abused, the disabled, and whatever color you choose or gender, to get elected. Behind the scenes Hillary never loved the black people or Americans. There are videos showing the two-faced attitudes and statements of how and why she lied to the public.

You know - people who work don't have of time to protest. People who dedicate their lives to others and try to better our society as a whole, not just their race or group, have happy, fulfilled lives, money to spend and a place to live.

America has been shamed for 8 years. The foreign policy was bad, the health care a disaster, and the ray of hope and belief we would ever pull out of it, all words and no action.

In a short time after Trump was in office, we attacked Syria when a government backed by the Russian was using nerve gas on children.  They are making strides to take out ISIS (not ISIL) and our military is the strongest it has been in decades.

The Real News - we are doing better. You would never know that by the press who I think is mostly on crack and spaced out pushing for our 13 years old to use marijuana. They cannot fathom a president who believes in God versus trying to put up Satan statues in Oklahoma, or freedom for men to marry men.

2017 - I never with all my predictions imagined it would be like this and I pray to God it will get better.

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Well, it appears that Herr Tumpenfuhrer has repeated/reiterated his first statement.  He has had time to think about it and, it appears, that his concern for voter numbers in the far right outweighs his care for the dead and injured or their families.  

I have no doubt that the left-wing protesters failed to behave in a peaceful fashion.  Angry people often do.  They seem to have had good reason to be angry.  That does not mean that they started it and they clearly caused less death and injury.

Herr Trumpenfuhrer says that he has watched all the footage and there were "bad" behaviors on both sides.  I have no way of telling if that is true.  I was not there.  I have watched all the footage I can find both on TV and online.  I could not make out who started anything.  On balance of probability, I find it hard to believe there was a significant amount of bad left wing behavior, as there seem to be no reported injuries on the far right. 

So, if they started it, show us the footage.  If there is footage only Herr Fuhrer has seen, he can show it to us.  If not, then he is proven to be a liar as well as a racist.
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After facing bipartisan criticism for his initial statement over the weekend, Trump was direct in his condemnation Monday. 

“We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence. It has no place in America,” Trump said.

He added, “Racism is evil, and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.”

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This last statement is better.  It should have been sooner.  The damage was already done.  But, better late than never.

Obama led the administration that removed Osama Bin Laden, but he could have spoken more clearly too.  

So no one is wreathed in glory.  Two wrongs do not make a right.

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True.

But, without the far right Heather Hale would have her life.

Trump needs to condemn them directly, not vaguely - lumped in with everyone else - even the victims.  I thought him a disingenuous, power hungry creep before.  Now I also see him as a racist, a bigot and possibly a coward too.

I would call him a POS, but manure is valuable to us farmers.

AAAAAAAARGH!  I have run out of words.  I am off to have a bath. He has made me feel dirty.


Barrack Obama refused to use the words "Radical Islamic Terrorism" after the San Bernardino terrorist attack.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/dec/11/war-words-fight-over-radical-islamic-terrorism/


When President Barack Obama spoke to the nation on Dec. 6 about the San Bernardino attacks from the Oval Office, he didn’t even use the words Islamic State.

Instead, he referred to the group as ISIL, an acronym for Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, a word denoting a region of the Middle East that covers several countries, including Syria.

Texas Sen. Ted Cruz is among several candidates who say Obama’s verbal preferences speak volumes about his inability to lead the fight.

"The broader solution is a commander-in-chief willing to speak the truth, willing to name the enemy — radical Islamic terrorism — and willing to do whatever it takes to defeat radical Islamic terrorism," Cruz said in a Washington news conference Tuesday. "When you have President Obama telling the nation that the Islamic State isn’t Islamic, that’s just nutty."


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At a White House conference on violent extremism, Mr. Obama appeared to take pains to separate Islam from terrorism.

Critics fault the president for not labeling the terror Islamic, and at a private Republican gathering in New York Wednesday night, former mayor Rudy Giuliani went even further.

"I do not believe that the president loves America. What's wrong with this man," asked Giuliani, "that he can't stand up and say there's a part of Islam that's sick?"

comment: There is a real flaw in logic here. Just because a group likes Trump doesn't mean he is linked to them or is one of them.  Just because someone wants equality for all people, doesn't mean he is a racist.

Obama stuttered and made more mistakes in his speeches to the point where some think he had brain damage from his early cocaine use. Either his memory was flawed or he was terribly dishonest.

How does Trump feel about the KKK and White Supremacy groups?


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True.

But, without the far right Heather Hale would have her life.

Trump needs to condemn them directly, not vaguely - lumped in with everyone else - even the victims.  I thought him a disingenuous, power hungry creep before.  Now I also see him as a racist, a bigot and possibly a coward too.

I would call him a POS, but manure is valuable to us farmers.

AAAAAAAARGH!  I have run out of words.  I am off to have a bath. He has made me feel dirty.
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What was actually said by President Trump in regards to the Charlottesville, Virginia violence. Would also like to comment we have a new VA Clinic in my area, a new cemetery for Veteran's that we wrote to a congressman and got so our soldiers could have a place to be buried in Monterey and VA care has improved immensely. I now spend less than 15 minutes waiting for my appointment when it used to be 2-3 hours.

Without military, police, and people to fight the wars and protect our country, we would have no country.

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Not misinformation. Reality. This is a far more accurate picture than is being carried on most of the media. The Real News.  There are radical violent groups on a hunt on the far left, which far outnumber this nasty white supremacist incident. We need to unify America during a time of crisis.

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It is just words, but when someone is murdered and or maimed, then good people condemn it.  

Trump failed.  

You do not blame the wounded or killed - ever!!!  Even if they had behaved abominably (which I do not believe was the case) they are now suffering and their families are grieving.  

Absolutely no person with any conscience at all adds to that.

Despite my dislike, Trump is not all bad.  But, this time his behavior is shameful.

He has been making America a laughing stock around the world.  This is worse.

Now he has shamed his office, shamed his country and, by extension, shamed you.
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Originally posted by Satori Satori wrote:

"Call off the legion of Harpies crawling all over President Donald Trump and let him do his job."




Obama did not do his job, lied to the American people over and over and never accomplished anything during his presidency that was helpful in any way.  Despite multiple gain in the U.S. economy, the stock market, the job market, and less illegal immigration by 70%, the liberal media continues to churn out pure fantasy in many areas versus accurate credit to Trump for what he has done.

My next post is an example.

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thanks for the laugh and the MISINFORMATION
you seem to excel at this

when Obama took office,the economy was CRASHING
we were losing hundreds of thousands of jobs EVERY MONTH
the stock market was at about 8,000 or so
when Obama left
we were at full employment
the stock market was at about 20,000
and NO ONE can lie to the public as good as Trump has done

YOU are the one "churning out pure fantasy"
and seem to live in some parallel universe or bizarro world


and like it or not
part of the reason Trump ,the popular vote LOSER' is in office
is because of the white supremacists,the nationalists,the KKK types and the alt-right
they LOVE him
just check out their websites
its all right there plain as a day
no  wonder he doesnt strongly disavow them
they are part of his base of supporters !!!

How What Happened Here In Charlottesville Was Inevitable



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Eli Mosley is typical of the “alt-right” movement ― the latest incarnation of organized racism in America ― which has grown exponentially larger since Donald Trump announced his run for the White House. He’s young and media-savvy and knew how to bring thousands of white supremacists together for Saturday’s “Unite The Right” rally.   

Years ago people like Mosley saw themselves as a fringe group in American politics. Now, under Trump, they feel like their views are gaining momentum, even becoming mainstream, they say."



NAZI's in AMuRIkA

complete now with torch light parades !!!


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Originally posted by carbon20 carbon20 wrote:

Why would you support a coward who ducked the draft,would you fight for someone who ran and hid under daddies skirt......


Trump never claimed to be a war hero as some senators did who blatantly lied about their combat heroism.

I am not aware that Trump's father was a cross-dresser and this is typical stuff ignoring the facts.
But after he (Trump) graduated from college in the spring of 1968, making him eligible to be drafted and sent to Vietnam, he received a diagnosis that would change his path: bone spurs in his heels.

The diagnosis resulted in a coveted 1-Y medical deferment that fall, exempting him from military service as the United States was undertaking huge troop deployments to Southeast Asia, inducting about 300,000 men into the military that year.

The basic requirement for military service is to make people ready for combat. I know. I am a Vietnam vet, served my country and am proud of it and support other veterans and the homeless.

As for equality for women -

All male American citizens are legally required to register for Selective Service within 30 days of their 18th birthday. When women can be drafted - there will be a breaking of the "glass foundation" which there has never been a single protest against.

I was not drafted. I volunteered and joined the medical core working in the 101st infantry. How many of the avid anti-Trump posters here have ever served in the military and helped protect America?

Many of them are not even American. And the reason the world lost a lot of respect for America was not caused by Trump. If, in general, our enemies probably have more to fear and deal with than they have in years.

What has been ignored here?   Trump is building a better and stronger military - trying to catch up on the nukes - and not only supporting veterans in many ways, but law enforcement as well. In the wake of a growing movement to equate police officers with Nazis and them being hunted, he has showed support for those who try to protect America and risk their lives daily doing it.

I have worked hard much of my life in the field of medicine taking care of people. The current health care system is a disaster which is about to implode. Trump tried to get support to fix it and the Democrats, still holding on the sinking ship of Obamacare for politics, has lead us to the brink of disaster. Also, we are on the verge of a government shutdown in a few weeks if a bill is not passed to increase the debt ceiling.

There is almost no news about this. It is a bad situation.

I am tired of politics and whiners. They lost the election and still they won't quit.  They had eight years and America would probably be in a depression right now instead of record breaking stock highs, 4.3% unemployment and growing confidence to bring back jobs into our country. It was Trump who had respect for those in the rust belt and wanted to save the dying automotive industry that sacked Detroit and left it looking like the aftermath of a nuclear war.

"someone who ran and hid under daddies skirt" Carbon 20

We had a candidate, Hillary Clinton, that was more concerned about having bathrooms for daddies that had a sex change and wanted to use them in Christian churches with the women or gays that were refused being made a wedding cake by a Christian bakery, than the threat of nuclear war, a collapsing economy, or border crossings that were destroying our job market, so farmers could hire illegals and congress people could have immigrant housekeepers who were basically slaves.

Like Trump's tweets - that is simple language everyone can understand. It is not racist. It is not advocating violence in any form.

It is - The Real News.

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Once again the whiners have taken the stage and are saying Trump should have said more about the attacks by White Supremacists. What did he say?

President Trump specifically condemns “white supremacists” and other extremist groups as forces behind the deadly protests and counter-protests this weekend in Virginia, a White House spokesperson said Sunday.

"The president said very strongly in his statement yesterday that he condemns all forms of violence, bigotry and hatred. Of course that includes white supremacists, KKK Neo-Nazi and all extremist groups. He called for national unity and bringing all Americans together,” the spokesperson said from Trump’s private golf club in Bedminster, N.J.

In the spirit of social justice warriors Fox and CNN continue to print that Trump does not condemn them because they have been trying to say they supported him during the election inferring Trump is a racist.

This is the resounding cry of the left - in the job market when people are not hired and to force everything from Hollywood to all business to be subject to a quota system if they do not have some many minorities, especially black people. This is the same with females.

No school should be forced to admit a certain percentage of minority people while discriminating against white people and making race part of the determination for scholarships or education.

All forms of violence against the government should be condemned. Protesting is far different now than it was in the 60s. I never protested anything and was never arrested for it, but I saw people beaten on the steps at Berkeley by the police during a demonstration who did nothing to deserve it.

It seems okay for the far left to hurl four letter explicits and hold up the head of a decapitated president, but people for Trump are hunted and swarmed and cannot have press conferences or free speech.

The media is totally biased. After 9 months of an agenda that Russia, working with Trump, changed the election, they still have not proved it was true.

The media has also taken one line from the CIA directors statement "there is no eminent threat of nuclear attack" from North Korea and gone on about it for three days while ignoring completely their support for Trump and his recent "get touch with North Korea" statements.

An acting effective commander-in-chief versus Obama and his disastrous foreign policy which put us in the position we are today, is the worst nightmare of the Democrats. Now they are saying his reckless behavior to protect America is to advance his popularity.

This is a myth.

Some people are just fed up with an administration who was more pro-Muslim and weak on Syria and Iran and actually paying terrorists with tax payer's money.

That is what happened in the parting days of Obama. Millions were given to Iran which were used finance terrorists and developing nuclear missiles.

It is not going to change. The Democrats are effectively out of power in all branches of government. People were hired to gather information to destroy Trump and the entire investigation on of him is a witch hunt.

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"Call off the legion of Harpies crawling all over President Donald Trump and let him do his job."




Obama did not do his job, lied to the American people over and over and never accomplished anything during his presidency that was helpful in any way.  Despite multiple gain in the U.S. economy, the stock market, the job market, and less illegal immigration by 70%, the liberal media continues to churn out pure fantasy in many areas versus accurate credit to Trump for what he has done.

My next post is an example.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote carbon20 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2017 at 8:23pm
Here's some real news, Chumps dad was arrested for protesting for the KKK and wearing a white hood,so we know where Chumps loyalty is.....
Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.🖖

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Why would you support a coward who ducked the draft,would you fight for someone who ran and hid under daddies skirt......
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He condemned both sides.  

True, you can't have an argument alone - it takes at least two - but, the "left" protested and the "hard right" killed and maimed.  Not what I would call a balanced argument.

He is happy to condemn all Muslims and Mexicans even the innocent, to generalize.  But, sadly, he seems unable to condemn the guilty without insullting the victims.

Of course the KKK love him.  It appears you are automatically guilty if your skin is anything other than 100% white.
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His lips or pen are moving.
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"  Glossed over was the fact that the CIA was backing President Trump recent hardline and he actively has the support of U.S. intelligence. Shouldn't he?"

I'm confused
aren't the CIA and all the other intelligence agencies members of the so called "DEEP STATE",that supposedly is out to DESTROY Trump ?LOL
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One considers going into stand up comedy as I read some of the headlines on Fox - CNN - New York Times and Washington - the un-Fantastic Four.   Beside most of the headlines being rewarmed ones from Friday - guess someone is on break - we have a classic misinformation story.

CIA Director Mike Pompeo on Sunday was interviewed and the near last part of his statement was "there is no imminent threat of North Korea attacking the U.S. or its allies".  Glossed over was the fact that the CIA was backing President Trump recent hardline and he actively has the support of U.S. intelligence. Shouldn't he?

This was a "calm the world" bit of info basically saying that the CIA knew Kim Jong-un had no plans to make good on his August 15th headline to launch on Guam.

At the same time the far Right tried to have press conference and were literally shut down by the far left. So much for the 1st Amendment - Free Speech.

The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution reads:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

So, it would seem there was no mention of white policeman murdered in cold blood from a state that was not even involved with the death of a black man.  Nor was there mention of radical groups who are as black supremacist as the white ones are.

It was inevitable our Nazis in the wings would come out eventually. 

Yet gone is the talk of Donald Trump being backed by the Klu Klux Klan. He condemned the violence of the White Supremacists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_supremacy

Basically all this does is to create division in our government. A lot of it is supported and financed by our enemies. We are so locked in on proving the Russians are tampering with us, that the influx of other foreign national who finance many of these demonstrations is ignored.

I wrote a thread on this - The Children of Anarchy - and all this does is divide America and make us more vulnerable.

What happened to the witch trials?  What happened to the Hillary did a crime and should go to jail revelations?  Looks like they will never be finished.

What is missed is that there are huge numbers of people that are tired of being abused by any group. We need to unite - not only to focus on our fighting brothers and sisters who have to protect our nation and our military - but from division started by our enemies to weaken our nation.

It has been going on for decades.

I am changing the name for me of what my Dad used to call the comics on Sunday morning -
The Funny Papers.

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One again I am seeing what I posted the day before going up on Fox. Which is fine. I am a crusader for The Real News versus The Fake News - and I respect Fox for smelling the coffee about Trump and breaking away some from the CNN - New York Times - Washington Post insanity.  Trump is doing his job. He has made huge gains in many areas  for America and I wish the Democrats would lose the word collusion which they have beaten to death and sounds like some sort of constipation problem.

It is a real challenge to fixed up a messed up America after 8 years of bad foreign policy, out and out lying to the people on multiple topics, and deserting Americans to pander to special interest groups, minorities, and alternate life styles.

We need to reach to point where employers, colleges, people in general don't care what religion you are, what color, or what gender. It just doesn't matter.

There are so many special groups with special needs, our citizens, all citizens do not receive equal and fair opportunity in jobs, education, or life anymore.

It  is time for them to stop creating roles, mental conditions, special this and that, where a person can belong to a group, and suddenly receive better treatment and more attention.

Our  government should be fair to the silent majority - they should  get equal treatment and have equal rights.

If people don't want to be Christian, or any religion - fine. But people who are religious should be  able to openly display what they believe in without fear of persecution.

So, 50% of America voted for Trump. CNN comes out with another of its "surveys" or quotes one. They tried to convince everyone that Trump had no chance of election and it would be a landslide for Hillary Clinton.

They lied.

People often say - be positive - it is time to support what is good for our nation - and recognize things are getting done.

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Although this video repeats after about 1/2 the way through I still posted it.


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Originally posted by WillobyBrat WillobyBrat wrote:

Talk about not getting all the news, Med;  I have just found out that the Isle of Man and the Isle of Wight have secretly built two nuclear aircraft carriers each and have supplied them with F15s secretly acquired from America.  They also have a small joint fleet of nuclear submarines.

What with Brexit, that might not be the worst idea!  Wink
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You are quackers if you accept that news - in a manner of squeaking.
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