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Talk about not getting all the news, Med;  I have just found out that the Isle of Man and the Isle of Wight have secretly built two nuclear aircraft carriers each and have supplied them with F15s secretly acquired from America.  They also have a small joint fleet of nuclear submarines.

We know this is correct because it was reported in DD and MM news.  I have heard the two reporters once worked for Disneyland.  I don't know if that is correct, though.
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Lazy sods aren't they, Med!  But, don't confuse that with "fake news".  

It would be nice if we were told a bit more about the goings on in the world.  That seems to be a regular problem, with insufficient news being the rub, not simply made up.  It is a great propaganda tool for the media to twist things by only reporting the part they want you to see; the oversight agencies and quangos can't accuse you of lying if you say nothing.  If they only show one side then we only see one side, ................................................................ unless we research for ourselves and see what the other side is saying.  Russia Today, Al Jazeera, CGTN and  Euronews are a nice antidote for our own BBC or the American channels.

FOX is a great antidote to CNN: CNN is a great antidote to FOX.  Between them they are a great antidote to the above - Lazy sods aren't they, Med!  But, don't continue confusing that with "fake news".  


As to the internet?  Well that has no oversight, so you really need to check with the antidote list before quoting most of it; that goes even more for twitter!  It does often mention that which the mainstream fail to tell us, but that only tells us where to look, you still need something verified before you can believe it.

It is like looking things up on Wikipedia.  This is a great way to get the basics of information on something to start off your research, but it can be updated by anyone, and some ass***** like to put false stuff on it for the craick.  So once you; have the basics go and check the source material yourself, or run the risk of being called a fool or worse a liar. 

Satori, it is true that Trump's approval rating has taken a big hit (CNN?) but it is not exactly in the toilet, as he has a hardcore of supporters who would still follow him if he grew a tail, leathery wings and horns (FOX?).

Put the various news sources together and:  

Yes, he inherited a swamp, but the pipes he sank into it are pumping in not out.
Yes, the stockmarket is up, but the dollar is in freefall.
Yes, socialism is not the answer, but the CURRENT Republican way will probably make things far worse, at least for the little guy.

I am sorry to tell you this Med, but if you start a news channel of your own, it needs to be far less partisan.  The public needs more truth worship, not more Trump worship.  Lazy sods aren't they, Med!  But, don't continue that with your own "fake news".
How do you tell if a politician is lying?
His lips or pen are moving.
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"Call off the legion of Harpies crawling all over President Donald Trump and let him do his job."

how about "call off the legion of Harpies crawling all over President OBAMA and let him do his job"

hmmm
NEVER heard that did we

people will stop crawling all over Trump
when and IF he stops LYING

Trump does what he does and says what he says
HE SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE

YOU have no problem holding Obama or Clinton accountable
yet
Trump gets a pass from you ???

this is why Trump supporters have NO credibility
NONE at all

double standard much ???

and about this little line
"We have little idea of what the American people think because the media and their surveys are flawed."

even the one poll that CONSISTENTLY, showed Trump in a favorable light
is now going against him
face FACTS
the American public is NOT behind Trump
“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov
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Originally posted by Satori Satori wrote:

Eric Trump: ‘The People Of This Country Love My Father’


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/eric-trump-people-love-president_us_597fe10fe4b08e14300525d3?cw9&ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009



ummm

NO !!!

Eric,they don't actually


his approval rating is IN THE TOILET,and deservedly so

2 out of 3 Americans DISAPPROVE of him and his FAILED agenda


apparently LYING and DELUSIONAL behavior run in the Trump family LOL


just more FAKE NEWS from the Trump family !!!




comment: We have little idea of what the American people think because the media and their surveys are flawed. Let me ask you - were you ever in the military? Did you go to basic training?  And most of all - did you love your drill sergeant?

It isn't necessary to love the president and whoever got this idea is basically wrong. It isn't necessary to love your doctor when he cuts you open and cuts up your heart and saves your live and after you are in agony. I know this. I have lived it as well as basic which was hell.

In the end I was a better man - and I mean man versus boy or seeing as female go from girls to women as well. I was a lean mean fighting machine not someone slinking over the Canadian border running.

In the weight room, lifting weights, building up, no pain, no gain. This is the essence of a strong leadership. No one wants their benefits cut as they try and lance the boil of the American feather in the air stock market and goldless money system.

This constant targeting of individuals whoever they be is not good for America. And there is no billionaire alive that has the awareness to know every deal with every entity that ever occurred over 30 years. Few people in politics - I would doubt any - could stand the scrutiny and attacks Trump has. They are not necessary. The Democrats lost the election, they have lost congress and all they have given us after 8 years of putting up with them is a bad medical system, a bad economy, a destroyed world image and foreign policy insanity. It is a total joke and deserves the best of Saturday night live to do a nearly brain dead social justice warrior.

People follow without a clue the headlines. No one colluded with Russia. Get a grip. In Air America we were financing revolutions selling cocaine to buy weapons. This is no secret. It is a reality. American intelligence has had their fingers in just about ever government with spies moles on earth - down to the villages in Africa.

That is what they do. The are spies. We have them. They have them. You don't punish them. They are there to defend your country from invasion and warn those who need to know.

We have mayors and senators and congressman on drugs, on the take, bought and sold by corporations and T.V. evangelists sleeping with hookers on money that little old ladies give believing they are helping. Life can suck. People can suck. Government can suck. That is the real world.

Nothing is worse than a whiner who continues to try and influence the world by seeking pity and and saying freedom of speech insures their right to whine. We don't need it.

We need strong people who are not trying to be popular to rule our nation and get the job done. We need financial wizards to cut the fat in social programs and wastes where billions, and I have seen billions, are stolen from American taxpayers.

We are not in the 60s. Come to present time. This is not JFK - no one wants a strong president in power while many people are feeding off the system and milking it dry.

We have 70% fewer illegals cross the border. Do you read about that on CNN?  Our stock market is booming - again - is this a headline on CNN?  The jobless rate is dropping and people are going back to work. We are trying to rebuild America and bring industry and manufacturing from offshore to homeland. See that in the media?  Not really.

They are too busy playing Jerry Springer Drama with people mud wrestling on the floor of the Senate. Entertainment does not equal the real news. It is National Enquirer.

Personally I don't care what secret meeting the next target of the lost Democrats are whining about. I care whether Kim Jong-un launches a nuclear missile on San Francisco - 80 miles from me and I die from radiation in a few days. I care about my fellow veterans, many of whom fought and many of whom died defending their country who have been left to die in the streets without food or care.

The Real News - we are not getting it. It isn't about the new scandal. Russia is not nice. It does not take a brain surgeon to figure that out. Putin was the head of the KGB - can he be trusted? No. Will he continue to order them to spy on America? Is Homeland Security about to be disbanded any time soon?

Not likely.

Our government needs to get to work and Congress needs to do its job and pass laws on issues that are important to our economy, health, and national security. They are blowing it.

We don't have to love our president. We don't have to love police officers though I do respect them for protecting us from the worst of the worst. We don't have to love the fireman, the postman, and the huge army of people that serve our country and should be honored for what they do - but I sure do respect them a hell of a lot and am glad for each an every one of them.

We need to pick our battles and targets to those that are important to the survival and prosperity of our nation. Call off the legion of Harpies crawling all over President Donald Trump and let him do his job. Maybe the country doesn't love him - but he is in my eyes - doing the best he can to fulfill what he has promised the American people - and doing his job.

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God Bless America.


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Eric Trump: ‘The People Of This Country Love My Father’


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/eric-trump-people-love-president_us_597fe10fe4b08e14300525d3?cw9&ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009



ummm

NO !!!

Eric,they don't actually


his approval rating is IN THE TOILET,and deservedly so

2 out of 3 Americans DISAPPROVE of him and his FAILED agenda


apparently LYING and DELUSIONAL behavior run in the Trump family LOL


just more FAKE NEWS from the Trump family !!!

“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov
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This morning I read the same stories on CNN they have been posting for 4 days. I posted about North Korean launch last Friday - it is now Tuesday and they are still posting what I posted days ago. What's up with this?  Is someone on vacation?

"We are going to handle this - don't worry it will be handled" - President Trump.

It is not being handled and we are getting the same tired rhetoric we have been hearing all week. Currently South Korea is not even going to defend itself as they take out 20 million people in Seoul. Ramping  up the military exercises and test firing THAAD 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_High_Altitude_Area_Defense
is not going to do anything to stop an attack.

The Democrats with their wide-eyed bill to sanction Russia (slap on the wrist) for their interference in the election is dumb. Still there is no definitive proof they did and still it is their nature like the scorpion to sting to meddle in the internet. We are just as guilty, if not more so of tampering with the net and elections all over the world.

The die hard liberals and turncoat Republicans who are not really Republicans but just ran as them to get elected are not going to call off the witch hunt. Anything to create a scandal on anything Republican just to get back control of the legislatures which they have lost will drag on for years.

Unless we have have some kind of Mortal Combat team headed to do a regime change in North Korea, we near the day they will launch and blow up Seattle, San Francisco, Los Angeles, and maybe even New York. No one wants to say the words New York - but they are in range now - as is Washington D.C.. No one wants to talk about an EMP over the government heartland on the East Coast which will fry most electronics, shut down the power grid, and then terrorists will strike people who will be thrown in chaos. I do not want to stand on the ruins of New York wear a gas mask, carry an uzi or some weapon as they tried to take them all away,  fleeing the radiation after I just moved there to try and save our power grid and say "I told you so". But I did. I have for years. Not if, but when.

Meanwhile, and despite sanctions, North Korea is on a high of success and building the tallest structure in the world and spitting in the eye of the Western World.

I was laughing over the shock and awe of Scaramucci saying naughty words when the democrats have been ranting with f*ck this and that for months and comedians waving Donald Trump's head in the air for children to see. Grow up CNN - get a life.  America is not in love with anarchists and bad boys - it is just cheaper to make the movies about them. And that is what the media is becoming - cheap yellow journalism - put out the red light - selling their souls and integrity to anyone with the money.

It isn't Trump's fault the world is a mess. He inherited a mess and the swamp. I cannot believe some reporters and people get up there and say
"Well Mr. Trump is just going to learn how things are done in D.C."

No he doesn't . It is time to drain the place and stop all the crime, drugs, and corruption on the highest levels of our government.  It is time to cut the congress medical exemptions so they will have to endure a failed medical system the ObamaCare joke which is about to implode.

A relative of mine just lost his health care and he was paying $10 co-pay for a medicine needed after a heart operation to keep him alive. Now they want $437 dollars for the same medicine. That is just one.  The insurance industry which is basically an area monopoly does not want statewide competition and... - the doctors - who frequently bill patients 3x for the same service and -... the drug lords of American - who give a legion of medicine much of which does not even work and much of which is hardly safe all too often with 10x the side effects as benefits  - have united to form one of the most powerful cartels,  legions of not super-heroes in history.

It is a comedy beyond comedy and tragedy beyond tragedy.   This is the real news. Huge areas like cancer which there are cures that have been suppressed for decades and organizations which would collapse if they cured cancer.  People that are being dialyzed  to death when the real problem of overweight and meat filled with growth hormone making 1/3 of our people so big it is killing them and creating the diabetes and kidney failure in the first place.

We have institutions that are beyond regulation or any meaningful review.  The worst is Congress and no one is monitoring the lobbyists bribing, wining and dining them, so they will pass laws help the corporations and special interest groups and hurt America.

The Real News. It is time for a change in all these areas. The hidden Euthanasia parts of the Obamacare allowing assisted suicide are simply to save money. It is about curing anyone - many times - it is about keeping them sick.

And finally - socialism is not the answer.  A weekend at Bernie's (Sanders) is a move to make our country a losing socialist nation and ratchet our democracy down to a third world nightmare.

So I scribble notes for Pandemic Now, my book, as the watchtowers monitoring disease are deserted. Of course the viruses are not over, as death is not on holiday. There still is Ebola in Africa, bad Zika in Texas, and a perpetual flu and Norovirus that will not quit.

The supermarket is full of food that is outdated, sour milk, and things that are just not talked about which are killing a lot of people.

The American people are being systematically lied to by the media and have been for the last few years especially. Many of the news stories are pure fantasy and the most significant events of the Trump administration are mostly ignored.

Our stock market is doing the best it has ever done and at an all time high. We probably have more respect from the world despite Trumpophobia (my word in case someone uses it) and the witch hunt continues. Can Trump float on water as they tie him to the dunking chair to drown him and if he does drown, will he then not be a witch and innocent. Catch22 - as CNN retract and look not sorry - "Guess we just published a bunch of blatant lies.  Such is the logic of people who rant about different types of phobes as they inoculate the world with misinformation and lies about Trump.

It does look like I will need to start a network and am doing so for the real news - independent news - what people need to know to survive a montage of commercial laden garbage as they monitor your every keystroke as you watch it and save and control your computer to gather data and then sell it to the highest bidders.

Reality. Real News. What you deserve. It's coming. Be sure of it - from millions of reporters with their hand held smart phones bringing you - the truth.

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