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Everybody was attacked in a Trump tweet storm this weekend...except Russia. Won't impose sections despite both houses overwhelmingly calling for them, and won't do anything but praise Putin. Nothing to see, right?

What did Trump gain? The power he's craved for years, and the ability to restructure the tax code to benefit himself and his family for starters.

"Buy it cheap. Stack it deep"
"Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary.
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yup
Trump takes a swing at everything and anybody

EXCEPT 

Russia

something stinks to high heaven
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well that didn't take long LOL

Alex Van Der Zwaan Pleads Guilty to Making False Statements to the FBI
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/20/1743225/-Alex-Van-Der-Zwaan-Pleads-Guilty-to-Making-False-Statements-to-the-FBI

now the only question is
is this guy gonna roll over and start talking ?
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Paul Manafort May Be A Bigger Gangster Than You Thought
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/20/1743314/-Paul-Manafort-May-Be-A-Bigger-Gangster-Than-You-Thought

cause ya know
Trump only surrounds himself with the "best people"  LOL
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Robert Mueller issues MORE new charges against Manafort and Gates

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/22/1743962/-Robert-Mueller-issues-MORE-new-charges-against-Manafort-and-Gates

ruh roh Scooby LOL
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Here are some details from the BBC

Quote Robert Mueller indicted Mr Trump's former campaign chairman Paul Manafort and business associate Rick Gates on multiple counts of tax and bank fraud.

Both were charged in October with conspiracy to launder money.

But there are no criminal allegations of collusion with Russia, the justice department investigation's main thrust.

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Thursday's 32-count indictment alleges that Mr Manafort and Mr Gates conspired to hide more than $30m (£22m) in Mr Manafort's personal income from tax officials.

It also claims that Mr Gates concealed more than $3m of his own income.

The money "flowed through" a $75m offshore account controlled by them, according to the indictment filed by a federal grand jury in Alexandria, Virginia.



The video in the article also talks of spending more the $1 million on menswear WackoGeek


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Shepard Smith: People Go To Prison For What Jared Kushner Did

https://www.yahoo.com/news/shepard-smith-people-prison-jared-054241423.html

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LOL !!! LOL

How Manafort’s inability to convert a PDF file to Word helped prosecutors

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/02/how-manaforts-inability-to-convert-a-word-doc-to-pdf-helped-prosecutors/


Trump-"I'm only going to hire the BEST people"  LOL


Manafort and Gates-making reservations at "Club FED" as we speak LOL


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Former Trump aide tells loved ones of plans to plead guilty, cooperate with special counsel

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/former-trump-aide-richard-gates-poised-plead-guilty-142241955--abc-news-topstories.html


yeah

Muellers investigation is just a "witch hunt" ???

WELL.....


apparently  he has found hisself some of dem witches  thingys LOL


can't wait to see if they turn states evidence and start talking

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Paul Manaforts very very VERY bad month
and it ain't even over yet LOL

Former Trump Campaign Chair Paul Manafort Indicted Yet Again

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/paul-manafort-indicted_us_5a90878be4b01e9e56bbc0ef


getting involved with the Donald was a really really REALLY bad mistake

Manafort may never have been discovered for the criminal that he obviously is


does he have anything on Trump ?

and is he going to talk to save himself some SERIOUS jail time ???


stay tunedBig smile



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Shorter Mike Rogers' Testimony: 'We're F***ed In The Dark'

https://crooksandliars.com/2018/02/shorter-mike-rogers-testimony-were-fed

US Cyber Command chief Adm. Mike Rogers told lawmakers on Tuesday that he has not been granted the authority by President Donald Trump to disrupt Russian election hacking operations where they originate.


does Trump have dual citizenship?

is he a Russian LOL ?????


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Sam Nunberg refuses to testify to Grand Jury & claims "Carter Page Colluded with Russia"

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/3/5/1746767/-Sam-Nunberg-refuses-to-testify-to-Grand-Jury-claims-Carter-Page-Colluded-with-Russia

LOL  no wonder Trump is DESPERATE to shut Mueller down
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New Report on Steele's Dossier and Trump-Russia


https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/report-steele-apos-dossier-trump-161900961.html


wow

bad BAD news for Trump

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So This Is An Interesting Rumor From GOP Consultant Mike Murphy

https://crooksandliars.com/2018/03/so-interesting-rumor


"But I'll give you one salacious rumor, because it's Russia Speculation Night, I was walking around Beverly Hills -- and God, I don't want to be pulled in by Mueller on this, because I don't know anything. But I was walking around international businessmen who I know pretty well, swore me to secrecy, said you can say it on TV, 'A friend of mine got pulled in by Mueller asking about a memorandum of understanding for a deal that Trump had with Russian financial interests during the 2016 campaign, and Mueller has the document,' " he said.


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Erik Prince Set Up Meeting In Seychelles For Trump-Putin Backchannel, Report Says


https://crooksandliars.com/2018/03/erik-prince-set-meeting-seychelles-trump


golly gee whiz

Erik Prince a self professed fundamentalist KriSTiAn who just happens to run a company of mercenaries gets caught LYING


just how deep is this Russian rabbit hole now ???

going on a couple of miles I would say LOL

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Rep. Adam Schiff vows to produce a "Minority Report" on Russia-Trump that will prove collusion

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/3/13/1748801/-Rep-Adam-Schiff-vows-to-produce-a-Minority-Report-on-Russia-Trump-that-will-prove-collusion

TOUGH talk from Schiff

can't wait to see what he has
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Breaking: Guccifer 2.0 Apparently a Russian Intelligence Officer
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/3/22/1751300/-Breaking-Guccifer-2-0-Apparently-a-Russian-Intelligence-Officer

Guccifer 2.0, the “lone hacker” who took credit for providing WikiLeaks with stolen emails from the Democratic National Committee, was in fact an officer of Russia’s military intelligence directorate (GRU), The Daily Beast has learned. It’s an attribution that resulted from a fleeting but critical slip-up in GRU tradecraft.


the Russians really really REALLY wanted Trump as President


WHY ??????????


the answer CAN'T BE GOOD

That forensic determination has substantial implications for the criminal probe into potential collusion between President Donald Trump and Russia. The Daily Beast has learned that the special counsel in that investigation, Robert Mueller, has taken over the probe into Guccifer and brought the FBI agents who worked to track the persona onto his team.

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Rep. Eric Swalwell: 'Mueller Has Trump On Obstruction, Money Laundering'

https://crooksandliars.com/2018/03/rep-eric-swalwell-mueller-has-trump


oh per chance to dream !!!

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Mueller makes two points: Manafort had active ties to Russia and don't mess with the special counsel

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/3/28/1752709/-Mueller-makes-two-points-Manafort-had-active-ties-to-Russia-and-don-t-mess-with-the-Special-Counsel

tick tock Donnie
tick tock ...LOL
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Mueller Tells Court Gates Dealt With Russia Intel Agent

https://crooksandliars.com/2018/03/mueller-tells-court-gates-dealt-russia

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Satori I find your signature line to be extremely ironic.     Are YOU certain what is propaganda and what isn't?
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if ANYTHING I have posted is not FACTUAL

then

by all means

refute it
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How do you tell if a politician is lying?
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..............................Plus all the eyes you don't see.
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Robert Mueller May Have Found That Witch That Trump Claims He’s Hunting For

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-robert-mueller-witch-hunt_us_5abc050de4b06409775ccf5d


n the final months before the 2016 election, top Trump campaign aide Rick Gates was in contact with a former member of Russian military intelligence whose background he knew about, according to a new court filing by Mueller’s office. “Federal Bureau of Investigation Special Agents assisting the Special Counsel’s Office assess that Person A has ties to a Russian intelligence service and had such ties in 2016,” states a sentencing memo in the case of Alex van der Zwaan, a Dutch lawyer who pleaded guilty to lying to federal prosecutors earlier this year

WAIT

SAY WHAT """


"top Trump campaign aide Rick Gates was in contact with a former member of Russian military intelligence whose background he knew about,"


I love Mueller

he doesn't leak things to the press to make his case

when he has ACTIONABLE and reliable information

he "leaks" it to the COURT in the form of a LEGAL filing LOL


keep up the witch hunt Mueller

if you find one in the woodpile you KNOW there are many moreLOL

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Sataroi  I am not silly enough to refute facts.   However the meaning and significance of said facts are indeed open to debate.    Look you have to admit  there is a very strong conspiracy to politically wound the president.    He has enemies throughout the "deep state" who have strong allies in the media.    This was apparent from even before he was elected.   All I am saying is it is very hard to stay objective with all the mud thrown around.
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When I was young there was a fashionable phrase: "Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you."

It seems to me that there is both a crooked President and a pratisan* witchunt.  No one is coming out of this smelling of roses, just the stuff you fertilize them with. 

.......................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................That is the problem with fans, they are indiscriminate.



*I was going to correct my spelling of partisan.  But, then I realised the original was better.
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of course people are out to "get" Trump,just like they were out to "get" Obama
Trump provides a very easy target rich environmentLOL
his WHOLE life is marked by scandal,bankruptcy,lies,adulteries,womanizing etc
and those are the good parts LOL
lets face FACTS,he's a pretty disgusting human being when you come right down to it
when it comes to a persons personal life I'm generally pretty tolerant of "indiscretions"
but when you CHEAT on YOUR wife while she is PREGNANT with YOUR child with a PORN STAR
that says everything you need to know about him and his character and integrity or the lack thereof

and millions of AMuRIkaNS thought he was the best we could do ???????




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Only one argument with that, Satori;

millions of other Americans didn't. 









..................................................... 'And in defense of those that did: - look at the opposition.  I don't think he was the best (or even a fully functioning human being), but those that made the finals did present a rather poor choice to compare him to.  Everything is relative.  Compared to Hitler, Mussolini looked like a nice guy.

I'm sorry America!  For the vanguard of freedom and democracy, you are not rising to the challege.  Things will not improve to any appreciable degree, until it is impossible to buy power.   CAP CAMPAIGN SPENDING!!!
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I understand why you might not personally like Trump.   However what I think his opponents don't understand is those exact qualities are also enduring to his supporters.   I don't want to explain why... it is complicated.

For me it isn't about the process or wither I personally like him or not.... but by most objective measures he has been good for our country.   I will let history judge him.     That is all I have to say about this... it is worse than arguing religion :)
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the rise to power of someone like Trump was VERY predictable
actually it was quite expected by many

as predictable as this rise to power was
so to the consequences are predicable and even expected probably unavoidable at this point

HINT:it does NOT end well,people who think things are bad now ain't seen nothing yet
Trump is NOT a savior he is a harbinger of the VERY bad things to come
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if you want to understand why I am so VERY pessimistic about the future of the U.S.
this sums it up well

Falwell, Jr. Wouldn't Necessarily Reject Trump For Rape: 'I'd Have To See The Circumstances'

https://crooksandliars.com/2018/03/falwell-jr-wouldnt-necessarily-reject


this garbage being spewed out of the mouth of a VERY prominent "Christian evangelical"

so called conservative leader

a fish is said to rot from the head down

how very VERY appropriate


Jesus wept.......

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I am not sure Trump is good for America.

I can't argue he is good for business.  He is good at that, very good.  And money has a multitude of uses.

My argument is that Mamon is a false God.  There is far more to life than money.  There are other considerations.  Freedom, friendship, family, honor, happiness, health:  not only is the drive for economic strength over all these a poison to your society, but when the "Leader" worships them and fame and sex so completely, it breeds a totally toxic culture.  For the drug dealer to kill his rivals and deal his poisons, he must first rate dollars above people.  The same miscalculation pervades most of your culture to varying degrees. 

I used to have a very well paid job at which I excelled.  I was miserable, had ulcers and failed utterly to enjoy my money.  I gave it all up for love and have never been happier.  Now I am a pauper (although I share even that most of the time) and the lifestyle of middle class America looks like a fairytale of untold riches.  But, I sleep the peaceful sleep of the just.  My life-expectancy is longer than an American's.  I do not trust our justice system, but I know they will never kill me.  I may never wear a tiara full of diamonds, but I will never wear an early shroud because I can't afford a doctor. 

It is true that the far left of politics is dangerous, it destroys freedom and drags people down to a lower level.  Go too far to the left and your country goes bankrupt.  But, the far right is every bit as bad, It takes from the poorest - as the higher levels must climb on the lower to rise above them and then the successful live in fear of slipping back down.  In addition to spreading this tide of misery, it teaches everyone to adopt such moral bankruptcy - and to hide it from yourselves.  You even think this normal, grown up and the only route to freedom.

Trump is not a right-winger.  He is a far right extremist.  He put on a coat with blue patches - to win more votes - but he means none of it.  His economic policies may make you all a mite more money - for a while, but the true cost to your society is astronomical and you will be paying for decades to come.
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every so often the world needs a big shake up to get out of the leathargy that  its in ,

in this case its ......

Chump love him or hate the (pussy grabber)

personally i would not have him feed my Dog,

that said ,

he there and he either going to force everyone to lay down their weapons or WW3 will happen 

just watching and waiting (for the chinese invasion) lol
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Trump Pal’s Email Regarding Julian Assange Meeting Leaked

https://www.redstate.com/sweetie15/2018/04/04/trump-pals-email-regarding-julian-assange-meeting-leaked/

A recent story of interest to the ongoing Russia probe is that of an email from longtime Trump pal and former campaign adviser, Roger Stone, to former Trump campaign aid, Sam Nunberg.

In the email, Stone claims to have had dinner with WikiLeaks founder, Julian Assange.

The significance of this is that WikiLeaks has long been believed to be working on behalf of the Kremlin by U.S. intelligence. They released DNC emails obtained from a hacker called Guccifer 2.0, now proven to be a Russian intelligence officer.

Stone has claimed to have been in contact with both, interestingly enough.

There should be no quarter given for those who conspire with enemies of our nation to harm our republic, in any way, and that includes attempting to manipulate the outcome of a lawful investigation.


it it up to their eyeballs



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Trump decided to abandon plans for more Russia sanctions

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-decided-to-abandon-plans-for-more-russia-sanctions/ar-AAw2Itf?li=BBnb7Kz


Putin OWNS Trump

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Flight Records: Proof Trump Lied To Comey About His Overnight In Moscow

https://crooksandliars.com/2018/04/trump-lied-comey-about-his-overnight


if your not doing anything wrong

THEN WHY DO YOU KEEP LYING ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

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The email Roger Stone didn’t want anyone to see


just MORE lying and obstruction of  justice from a Trumptard

bottom line is
if it wasn't for the Russians
Trump would NOT be President
Putin has his man in the White House

and as for Julian Assange ?

BIGGEST dirt bag ever
that guy has turned out to be a TOTAL fraud
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https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/6/6/1769978/-Sean-Hannity-Breaks-The-Law-On-TV-Telling-Mueller-Witnesses-to-Destroy-Evidence

yeah
cause INNOCENT people always destroy evidenceLOL

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Hilary Clinton did.  I'm just saying.

"Innocent until proven guilty!"  But, I admit it smells fishy in BOTH cases.  However, the two of them could each have legitimate reasons. 

Personally, I doubt it:- either way.  There is a big swamp out there - brimming full of rotten fish.
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Mueller Indicts Manafort and Associate With 'Ties to Russian Intelligence' on Charges of Obstructing Justice


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And don't forget
Originally posted by BBC BBC wrote:

Earlier this week Mr Manafort was accused of witness tampering.


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Konstantin Kilimnik Indictment Means Mueller has Officially Tied Russian Intelligence to Trump campaign


it is now a proven FACT
that the Russians did everything they could to get Trump elected

now the question is WHY ???
and is Trump personally involved?
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WHY !!!!!! the guys a FOOL ,

draging the American people into His cesspool,

Stand up and get this fool OUT !!!!!!!

SACK HIM ......................
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