Coronavirus in Pope and aides

niman should know better.  I know Fact Checkers debunked it and it was flagged by FB as being fake news.   Maybe suspected of having it, and they may have it, who knows,, but it's not confirmed.  Niman cracks me up.  

Shame on niman for the fake news.  

https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/01/pope-coughs-way-speech-amid-coronavirus-outbreak-12329688/?ITO=squid&ito=newsnow-feed

Managed one post, but now the text icon is not working for me, so I will just post links,till I can figure this out,

Thanks Albert, a little shook since chloroquine experience, should have been more careful.

Sheep Lady -  a niman post, followed by a claim of Chloroquine.  Reminds me of things from 15 years ago here.   I will need an answer to your chloroquine post.  

I just reviewed her post and all is fine.  Yes I was surprised to see it arrived from India, and then later learned that around 70% of all generic drugs are controlled by India and China.  

It's always better to go to your doc for an RX, no doubt.   I also heard from a pharmacist recently on our other group that they no longer have it available.  And I believe  hazelpad also mentioned the UK government it now hoarding it and no longer shipping it.  Bottom line, if you can get it via rx from your doc, do it.  Not entirely sure it's even available at U.S. pharmacies at this point.    

Remember - I don't know anything about the company itself.  I received both orders I placed, and that's about it.  

Thanks for the reply,

A

Well he's cancelling some pretty important events at a critical Christian time of the year (coming up to Easter)...

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/pope-says-a-cold-will-force-him-to-skip-spiritual-retreat/ar-BB10Ax18?ocid=spartandhp

Pope Francis wipes his nose during the Ash Wednesday mass which opens Lent   

VATICAN CITY, March 1 (Reuters) - Pope Francis announced on Sunday that a cold he is suffering from will force him to skip a week-long Lenten spiritual retreat with senior Vatican officials that had been due to start later in the day.

The pope made the surprise announcement to thousands of people in St. Peter's Square during his first public appearance since last Wednesday, when he was seen coughing and sneezing.

"Unfortunately a cold will force me not take part this year (in the retreat). I will follow the meditations from here," he said. It is the first time that Francis has missed the annual retreat south of Rome since his election in March, 2013.

The Vatican had previously said only that he was suffering from a "slight indisposition".

He coughed several times while making his brief address on Sunday and sounded like he had a stuffy nose.

The pope has taken ill at a time when Italy is battling a surging outbreak of the potentially deadly coronavirus. His spokesman Matteo Bruni dismissed on Friday speculation that Francis was anything more than slightly unwell.

"There is no evidence that would lead to diagnosing anything but a mild indisposition," he said.

Italy has registered more than 1,100 confirmed cases of coronavirus since Feb. 20 and at least 29 deaths -- the worst such contagion in Europe.

Francis is missing a part of one lung. It was removed when he was in his early 20s in his native Buenos Aires after an illness. (Reporting by Philip Pullella; Editing by Crispian Balmer)

Albert wrote: Sheep Lady -  a niman post, followed by a claim of Chloroquine.  Reminds me of things from 15 years ago here.   I will need an answer to your chloroquine post.

Albert, I was out for a little bit and just got this.  I don't know what happened 15 years ago but I would never post disinformation intentionally.  As I wrote in my other post, my bank held payment on my order  for chloroquine until they verified it was really me ordering.  They typically do check international transactions; I am grateful they do such a good job against fraud.  They asked a few questions about the transaction and I was stunned to hear the billing office is in Bejing. 

 After that, my order was approved though they could not tell me where the drugs were being shipped from.   I had to call the pharmacy back to find out where they were coming from.  They told me the drugs were not being shipped from China. The answer was Singapore or India and I immediately cancelled having seen the posts here . The lady was pretty nice asked me why and I said because of Coronavirus to which she stated that she thought is only in China.

 I live in a pretty remote area, not knocking you or the site and think I would rather take the risk than have the mail bring it to me.  Each risk is unique to that individual and as I have a lot of health issues, for me it is simply not worth chancing the drugs.  I know you are trying to do a good thing here. 

As for the Neiman guy, whoever he is, I know nothing else about him other than what you have said here today.  I am truly sorry to have caused any difficulties.

I used to follow Nieman,thought he retired.....sold the company I think,

"Recombinomics"

Tabitha111 wrote: I could never understand Nieman ….not one bit.

You are not the only one:).

Sheep Lady wrote: Albert wrote: Sheep Lady -  a niman post, followed by a claim of Chloroquine.  Reminds me of things from 15 years ago here.   I will need an answer to your chloroquine post.   Albert, I was out for a little bit and just got this.  I don't know what happened 15 years ago but I would never post disinformation intentionally.  As I wrote in my other post, my bank held payment on my order  for chloroquine until they verified it was really me ordering.  They typically do check international transactions; I am grateful they do such a good job against fraud.  They asked a few questions about the transaction and I was stunned to hear the billing office is in Bejing.   After that, my order was approved though they could not tell me where the drugs were being shipped from.   I had to call the pharmacy back to find out where they were coming from.  They told me the drugs were not being shipped from China. The answer was Singapore or India and I immediately cancelled having seen the posts here . The lady was pretty nice asked me why and I said because of Coronavirus to which she stated that she thought is only in China.  I live in a pretty remote area, not knocking you or the site and think I would rather take the risk than have the mail bring it to me.  Each risk is unique to that individual and as I have a lot of health issues, for me it is simply not worth chancing the drugs.  I know you are trying to do a good thing here.  As for the Neiman guy, whoever he is, I know nothing else about him other than what you have said here today.  I am truly sorry to have caused any difficulties.

When mine arrive I'm just going to leave them unopened until we need them (which might not happen), but either way, any virus on the parcel will die given time. The current recommendation is 9 days.

Thank you, Albert. 

The news about the virus is growing at such an exponential rate, I panicked and just wanted everyone to know where the drugs were coming from to minimize the risk- especially after seeing an alleged Iranian airline employee who reportedly fell to the tarmac where he worked and later was said to have died.   

One thing this faux pas has taught me is to remember the old posts here.  We used to talk about having decontamination rooms outside your home before you enter, leaving your PPE outside, how to get by without masks, etc.  

Once this really gets going, it will be everywhere I think.  It will invade our cars, the air ducts of our homes, the dirt on our shoes, the produce from our gardens, etc.  It will be carried on the wind to every town and city.  Feel free to correct me if I am wrong;  the mail is going to be the least of our problems. 

Again, thank you for sharing your thoughts on all this. I hold this forum in high regard and am very grateful we can come to a source where we can get to the real truth.  God knows we have had enough fake news.

Sure does look professionally processed; I would be confident taking it.  A lot of our drugs are processed in India.

I agree with Chuck. Just because something is coming from China isn’t necessarily reason to avoid it. As was mentioned, just leave it for a while where it will be safe and let time do the disinfecting. Or blast it with Lysol if you think it’s  it’s something that won’t be damaged.

Definitely agree with Chuck and JD.    And also a learning experience here...  had no idea after research how much China and India control most of the drugs.    Something around 70%, I believe. 

The CDC is also not mentioning the treatment being used on patients, and I find that suspect.  Pretty sure they are using Remdesivir and Chloroquine.   Hard to imagine Chloroquine qould be available soon.

Sheep Lady wrote: Albert wrote: Definitely agree with Chuck and JD.    And also a learning experience here...  had no idea after research how much China and India control most of the drugs.    Something around 70%, I believe.  The CDC is also not mentioning the treatment being used on patients, and I find that suspect.  Pretty sure they are using Remdesivir and Chloroquine.   Hard to imagine Chloroquine qould be available soon. Need to clarify what I mean:  I agree time and disinfecting mail may limit the spread on parcels and mail. I am concerned about air spread in my neighborhood mainly from bats.

I completely understand, thanks for the reply.   What it boils down to is a personal choice.   Since the delivery takes a couple of weeks either way, not worried about it sticking to surfaces with it whatsoever at this stage.    My view is simple, and that it may be good to add chloroquine to your preps how ever you get it.   If you can get it from your Doc, excellent.   

I've ordered some and plan on leaving it in it's packaging until (if) we need it. I'm sure that any viruses on or in the parcel will have died by then.

niman…. lol

He hyped it good, but then again, he is niman…. lol