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  Quote Merivel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 10 2006 at 9:12pm
    Hi, I believe dogs cannot get the virus, only cats. and no need to expose the pets to germs, let them go on papers during the times of quarantine. i am going to keep my pets existence a secret from any authorities if they start to have rules about cats like they do about chickens being euthanized. dogs are our best friends, they wouldn't be wanting us put down even though we are carriers of the disease.
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  Quote koolsteve Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 19 2006 at 12:11am
An interesting thing to think about, that i have been thinking about, is if the BF dosn't wipe out humanity, it may kill off several species that didnt get vaccinated, causing a chain reaction of events inthe food chain. Think about it, if it kills too many birds, theyll be 100x as many worms , bugs etc. than before, if it kills too many cats theyll be 100x rats and mice than before, wich are very good at spreading diesase. iuse your imagination and think about this.
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  Quote GingerSnap Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 07 2007 at 3:14pm
Influenza can be successfully treated homeopathically.  Doesn't matter whether it is a person or a dog or a cat.  It does require you learn how homeopathy works, but it is a ready answer to the concern some may have of what to do if their furfriend gets sick.
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2007 at 2:20am
Originally posted by Cindy

  Shocked  Why have I not heard anything about our pets? Does anyone know how we can protect them, and why there has been no discussion on a possible shot to prevent them from getting sick? 
Hi  some info for pet owners and vets on next thread down http://www.avianflutalk.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=14087   its a longish post here is a little..................  this is from March 2006 from FAO .Protection etc ....
 

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Areas where H5N1 HPAI has been diagnosed or is suspected in poultry or wild birds:

Report to the local veterinary authority any evidence of significant bird mortality both wild and domestic
Be especially vigilant for any dead or sick cats and report such findings to the local vet
Make sure contact between cats and wild birds or poultry (or their faeces) is avoided and/or keep cats inside
If cats bring a sick or dead bird inside the house, put on plastic gloves and dispense of the bird in plastic bags for collection by local veterinary animal handlers
Keep stray cats outside the house and avoid contact wit them
If cats show breathing problems or nasal discharge, a veterinarian should be consulted
Do not touch or handle any sick-looking or dead cat (or other animal) and report to the authorities
Wash hands with water and soap regularly and especially after handling animals and cleaning their litter boxes or coming in contact with faeces or saliva
Dogs can only be taken outside the premises if kept restraint
Do not feed any water birds
Disinfect (e.g. with bleach 2-3 %) cages or other hardware with which sick animals have been transported or been in contact with.
Wash animal blankets with soap or any other commercial detergent


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Avian influenza in other animal species
Hosts: Wildbird hosts for H5N1 in order of importance are probably Anatidae (ducks, geese, swans), Charadriiform (gulls and shorebirds) and Passeriform (sparrows and starling). Lately swans have been found infected with H5N1 in a number of European countries (e.g. Austria, Germany, France and Romania, etc.). In poultry, both aquatic and terrestrial species become infected but the virus is particularly aggressive in chicken.

Carnivores: can become infected, after consuming infected poultry that succumbed to the disease. To date no H5N1 clinical cases of dogs have been reported but in an unpublished study carried out in 2005 by the National Institute of Animal Health in Bangkok, researchers tested 629 village dogs and 111 cats in the Suphan Buri district of central Thailand. Out of these, 160 dogs and 8 cats had antibodies to H5N1, indicating that they were infected with the virus or had been infected in the past. An eqiune virus has recently shown up in dogs. This inter-species re-assortment is not uncommon for type A influenza viruses.

Pigs are known “„mixing vessels” for different influenza virus subtypes and therefore present a risk for avian influenza virus re-asserting with a human influenza virus into a strain more apt to infect humans. Regarding the present H5N1 subtype, studies conducted in pigs in Vietnam yielded 8 animals out of the 3000 investigated pigs seropositive. None of the animals had any clinical signs and it was not possible to isolate any virus

Ruminants appear at lower risk. So far no cattle have been identified as carrying any influenza type A virus. Horses are susceptible to Influenza viruses but so far mainly H3N8 have been identified. Regular vaccination is carried out. Experimentally mice can be infected but their role in natural transmission has not been established.

Public health implications
Humans and other mammals need to come in contact with large amounts of virus to become infected. In case of an infection with H5N1, mammals and humans apparently only shed small amounts of virus, contributing to reduced risk of spread among themselves. Recent data from experimentally infected cats’ evidenced extra-respiratory replication of the H5N1 and excretion of virus in faeces of cats need to be taken into consideration. Hygienic practices need to be re-enforced, frequent washing of hands with water and soap especially after handling animals, cleaning cat litter boxes as well as before and after the preparation of food.

Occupational health and safety
Veterinarians and their staff are specifically at risk of coming into contact with infected cats, in case the disease becomes more widespread among this species. Normally, veterinarians and their staff engage in frequent hand washing and disinfect examination tables and instruments to reduce the general risk of disease transmission among their patients and to protect the persons present in the consultation room from eventual exposure.

Advice for veterinarians
The following is advised for veterinarians:

Advice to pet owners (see above)
Be ware of possibility to receive (sick) cats infected with H5N1
Take hygienic measures when handling sick cats (gloves and surgical masks)
Take deep oro-pharyngeal swabs of suspected animals (e.g. animals with respiratory problems) and sent them to the laboratory clearly indicating the type of examination requested Support cases to be reported to veterinary authorities
Inform owners of suspected animals and provide them with clear and practical information, avoiding creating any panic among cat owners or the general public.
Provide veterinarians are advised to contact the Veterinary Authorities in their respective countries for specific instructions

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/cidrap/content/influenza/avianflu/readings/index.html


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  Quote ShaRenKa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2007 at 5:34pm
I just lost my best friend/companion "Chris" just a mo ago;( He was a 8 1/2 yr old long coat Chiuahuah, and one sunday, I put him out in the kenel for 2 hrs along with our ****z zu "Gizmo" to get air. He seemd fine! Just a little reluctant to go in the kennel, but with a lil coaxing, he went in. 2 hrs later I went out to get them, and there he layed, dead;( He was just at vet not a mo prior for exam and his rabies shot..all was fine. A long time owner of dogs, I have no clue as to what what wrong. The other dog shows no signs at all of being sick, so I ruled out anything contageous. I miss my companion/friend dearly... and sometimes weigh heavily with guilt, wondering if I could have done something had I not put him outside that day. I didn't have an autopsy done..maybe I should of..I don't know. But it has made me rethink more on the care of "Gizzy" during a pandemic..what I will need for her ect...I thought i'd put a 6x6 ft kennel we used for camping down in the basement for her...and would change paper on the floor as needed, so she wouldnt have to go outside. And have stockpiled 3-20 lb bags of food, treats ect as well.Anyone else have any other suggestions here?
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  Quote johngardner1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2007 at 6:12pm
    I'm sorry you lost your doggy. I have a half min-doberman half chihahua
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  Quote fab4 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2008 at 5:16pm
One thing I am going to do for our pets is first, they all come in.  I am collecting newspapers for one - for the dogs to go on, and also I will use shredded newspapers in place of kitty litter.   I have some kitty litter but not enough $ to stock up on it. 
 
Here's my idea of a dog/cat area outside.   I have a pool outside our back door with a high fence.  I bought bird netting to cover the top and all sides.   The main reason is I have one cat who loves to explore and brings back presents of small animals every time he goes out.    I put in the net to try and keep him contained somewhat.  It won't be easy, we'll still have to watch him carefully.   The area is mostly concrete.  It can be cleaned/hosed down and there is a small garden patch the pets can roll around in.   This is an area that is not easily visible, and will also be a place we do any cooking outside. 
 
 
 
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  Quote SusanT Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 29 2008 at 8:46am
I'm not overly concerned about my dog getting infected. To be on the safe side, I think I will use a diluted bleach solution on her paws after being outside if BF is found in the states. If I had a cat, I would be worried about it catching an infected bird and eating it. For me, it is more the H2H2H virus I am afraid of, in which case I do not believe domestic animals will be a factor - it will be people I will fear.
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 30 2008 at 12:32pm
In case of evacuation:
On the outside of the container list:
your pet's name
your name and address and telephone number
and out of state emergency telephone number
 
For each pet have your carrier already stocked with:
a collar
a leash
a current shot record.
1 gallon jug of water
blanket to lay on
toy
canned food
manual can opener
Separate Food and Water bowl
any special medications
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