Tracking the next pandemic: Avian Flu Talk |
What can be done to save our pets? |
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Mississipp Mama
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Hi Justme, thanks for the tent idea I will be looking for one soon. I had been racking my brains over how to protect our dogs. With your idea, I don't have to try and build anythings.
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I thinkyou should test the baggie-bootie combo idea, first --- make sure they won't slip off their paws. With the baggie being on first, the innter layer will be slippery. I've got both, here @ home, but I'm sitting here reading this. I'll give it a try, this morning. You would need to make sure you have nice tight infant socks to stop the slipping!-k |
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I am so very glad to hear that you are comitted to your dogs. I feel the same way about my cats. But, please, don't forget to wipe down their coats with anti-bacterial wipes after they have been outside. Same thing as taking off your clothes.
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OH, hon, you go to a vet twice a week for the drip?? Goodness, it it so easy to do yourself, you'll save yourself a fortune!!!! Please, have your vet show you how!! The nice thing is, that you can stock up on supplies for your pet. The vet will give extra needles, they can also be re-used by soaking them in bleach for at least 10 minutes. You will need extra ringers, but since your baby only gets about 100cc's daily, if that much, one last's for quite a while. Find out from your vet how he/she stores them and then figure how how many you will need for the period of time you're prepping for and then add some. You're absolutely correct, ringers will disappear!!!!
As far as your fear of needles - I don't mean to hurt your feelings at all or be rude - but, suck it up! We're all going to have to deal with stuff that scares us. Don't forget the old definition of fear : False Evidence Appearing Real! I'm uncomfortable with needles too, but what's there to be afraid off? They're not going to attack you!!
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GrizzlyGirl
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Try places like Walmart, K-Mart, Target and the Dollar Stores. They may not be "Ziploc" but they will definitley do in times of need for dog booties. I found some at a local grocery outlet and they were alot cheaper than the grocery store. Also, make a run to Costco or Sam's club (or maybe even a restaurant supply store) where you can buy baggies in bulk quantities. This should stock you up with plenty of baggies for your pets.
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GrizzlyGirl
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I thinkyou should test the baggie-bootie combo idea, first --- make sure they won't slip off their paws. With the baggie being on first, the innter layer will be slippery. I've got both, here @ home, but I'm sitting here reading this. I'll give it a try, this morning. You would need to make sure you have nice tight infant socks to stop the slipping!-k I have a Chow/Husky/shepherd mix and she weighs approximately 75 lbs. I fashioned "baggie'booties for her and since she is bigger, baby socks work great at holding the baggie on her feet. If the booties aren't big enough, get preemie socks and if they are too small, get toddler ones. Also, another quick tip to note is to keep their toenails trimmed. I had to trim my dogs' nails before the baggie booties worked well because her toenails kept poking holes in the baggie. I have noticed now that her nails are trimmed blunt, the baggie has held up. As far as the slippery-ness if you secure the baggie on the dogs feet with a cotton type baby bootie sock, then the sock prevents it from being slippery. Another thing you can try is getting the baby socks that have stciky soles to keep baby from slipping on the floor. Of course these booties may be tto big for anyone who has a small dog.
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Evergreen
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Know just what ya mean. I've been giving my 18-yr-old Ringers daily since last June. If you get 18 or 19 guage needles, it seems to be okay for him. Smaller size needles mean a super s-l-o-w drip that gets him antsy after a time. I, too, was squeemish about needles. I just had to "bite the bullet" a couple of times to insert the needle and my cat didn't wince at all. I still don't like inserting the needle, but he seems to tolerate it pretty well and he feels so much better afterwards. Also, I order a case of Ringers from my vet (got a 10% discount) and a couple of the IV assemblys that need to be changed out every 2 Ringers. I agree with your concern, it could very well be that Ringers might be in short supply. I'm going to order another case right away. Thanks for the heads up.
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Evergreen
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Femvet wrote: ...."The vet will give extra needles, they can also be re-used by soaking them in bleach for at least 10 minutes."
I just learned something. I can soak needles in bleach, WOW! Can I soak the drip assembly, too? The only thing about the needles is that they will get dull - bummer. Thanks for the information. |
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Luna
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I'm getting confused about the wild bird thing. If the flu mutates to easily infect people it will then be a human flu. Different than the H5N1 that the birds are spreading around. So we'll only be able to get it from other people, not wild birds except in rare cases that don't spread. And, dogs and other animals only very, very rarely if ever get human flus. Only if the human form is somehow transmitted back to wild birds will other birds catch and spread it, and that doesn't seem likely. The only flu virus that dogs have ever caught is the new dog flu that they got from horses. There is one case of possible H5N1 in one dog. Think of all the dogs and cats that have eaten raw infected poultry and so very few of them have caught it and certainly never passed it to people.
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Am I missing something? I thought I was pretty well read on this subject so this has me confused.
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Proudest Monkey
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If a pandemic occurs, wild birds will be the least of my concerns. |
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I read in the news earlier today that somewhere in the East that a family of seven lost six of their family to Avain Flu, caught from person to person. Not too sure, but I think it has began.
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Merivel
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Hi, I believe dogs cannot get the virus, only cats. and no need to expose the pets to germs, let them go on papers during the times of quarantine. i am going to keep my pets existence a secret from any authorities if they start to have rules about cats like they do about chickens being euthanized. dogs are our best friends, they wouldn't be wanting us put down even though we are carriers of the disease.
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koolsteve
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An interesting thing to think about, that i have been thinking about, is if the BF dosn't wipe out humanity, it may kill off several species that didnt get vaccinated, causing a chain reaction of events inthe food chain. Think about it, if it kills too many birds, theyll be 100x as many worms , bugs etc. than before, if it kills too many cats theyll be 100x rats and mice than before, wich are very good at spreading diesase. iuse your imagination and think about this.
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GingerSnap
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Influenza can be successfully treated homeopathically. Doesn't matter whether it is a person or a dog or a cat. It does require you learn how homeopathy works, but it is a ready answer to the concern some may have of what to do if their furfriend gets sick.
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ShaRenKa
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I just lost my best friend/companion "Chris" just a mo ago;( He was a 8 1/2 yr old long coat Chiuahuah, and one sunday, I put him out in the kenel for 2 hrs along with our ****z zu "Gizmo" to get air. He seemd fine! Just a little reluctant to go in the kennel, but with a lil coaxing, he went in. 2 hrs later I went out to get them, and there he layed, dead;( He was just at vet not a mo prior for exam and his rabies shot..all was fine. A long time owner of dogs, I have no clue as to what what wrong. The other dog shows no signs at all of being sick, so I ruled out anything contageous. I miss my companion/friend dearly... and sometimes weigh heavily with guilt, wondering if I could have done something had I not put him outside that day. I didn't have an autopsy done..maybe I should of..I don't know. But it has made me rethink more on the care of "Gizzy" during a pandemic..what I will need for her ect...I thought i'd put a 6x6 ft kennel we used for camping down in the basement for her...and would change paper on the floor as needed, so she wouldnt have to go outside. And have stockpiled 3-20 lb bags of food, treats ect as well.Anyone else have any other suggestions here?
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I'm sorry you lost your doggy. I have a half min-doberman half chihahua
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fab4
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One thing I am going to do for our pets is first, they all come in. I am collecting newspapers for one - for the dogs to go on, and also I will use shredded newspapers in place of kitty litter. I have some kitty litter but not enough $ to stock up on it.
Here's my idea of a dog/cat area outside. I have a pool outside our back door with a high fence. I bought bird netting to cover the top and all sides. The main reason is I have one cat who loves to explore and brings back presents of small animals every time he goes out. I put in the net to try and keep him contained somewhat. It won't be easy, we'll still have to watch him carefully. The area is mostly concrete. It can be cleaned/hosed down and there is a small garden patch the pets can roll around in. This is an area that is not easily visible, and will also be a place we do any cooking outside.
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SusanT
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I'm not overly concerned about my dog getting infected. To be on the safe side, I think I will use a diluted bleach solution on her paws after being outside if BF is found in the states. If I had a cat, I would be worried about it catching an infected bird and eating it. For me, it is more the H2H2H virus I am afraid of, in which case I do not believe domestic animals will be a factor - it will be people I will fear.
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In case of evacuation:
On the outside of the container list:
your pet's name
your name and address and telephone number
and out of state emergency telephone number
For each pet have your carrier already stocked with:
a collar
a leash
a current shot record.
1 gallon jug of water
blanket to lay on
toy
canned food
manual can opener
Separate Food and Water bowl
any special medications
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crazzycat
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Thanks for your recommendations
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missamor
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Thank you for advices. First of all i won't let my cat go out.
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For me one of the best way to do it is to take them always in veterinarian and love them.
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