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MercutioATC
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Joined: April 25 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 25 |
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Posted: May 28 2006 at 8:09pm |
Oh?? Do me a favor. Google "feral dog human attack". There are PLENTY of instances of feral dogs attacking people (not just children, adults too). |
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Safety Lady
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Joined: March 22 2006 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 88 |
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Posted: May 29 2006 at 10:45am |
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Recently there have been 5 bear sightings in and near Seattle. Today a black bear was sighted in Bremerton. This only occurred maybe once a year in the past. Now 10-12 a year in very populated areas.
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Luna
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Joined: May 23 2006 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 14 |
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Posted: May 30 2006 at 12:38pm |
Actually, if you do a good search, for documented cases, there doesn’t seem to be any. Don’t rely on heresy or myth or even wiki’s.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=documented+feral+dog+attack+on+human&btnG=Search The facts are that people need to spend their time and energy planning for real issues, not far fetched scenarios. On top of that, the worst thing that anyone can do, and what will most effect your chance of survival is panic. If people are getting trigger happy and randomly shooting their neighbors dogs or other pets they’ll become a prime target for the neighbor who’s also a bit panicked and trigger happy and now also pi**ed off. The quicker people are to start shooting, the faster that society will fail and chaos will start. The stray dogs that have attacked people aren't the same as feral. They are not hungry, cold, wet and tired and they are not trying to eat people. The fight goes out of dogs pretty fast once they've been abandoned for even a few days or once they don't feel they have a home to protect any longer. Katrina should be a good example. Thousands of abandoned dogs roaming the streets and starving and have you heard of one instance that a human was attacked? All the rescuers out there, as well as looters, etc. no one was attacked by a pack of dogs. I’m sure there were at least a few times during Katrina that dogs and other animals may have eaten dead humans, but even other humans will eat their dead if they are facing their own death. And probably several rescuers got bit while trying to save them, but that’s a far cry from packs of dogs hunting people. Feral dog packs hunting and eating people is very unrealistic. There are a lot more likely scenarios to consider and prepare for. Lastly, chances are that IF ALL of the worst case scenarios happen, there is a possibility that a few dogs will survive and manage to find others. And a small percentage of those packs may actually survive a while and learn to hunt and then get up the nerve to try and grab a child. But given all that you have a better chance of winning the lottery than being eaten by a dog. The PETS forum was started to help people prepare to care for pets during a possible pandemic not frighten each other with wild speculation. I hope we can spend more time on that subject. |
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MercutioATC
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Posted: May 30 2006 at 1:38pm |
You didn't Google the words I suggested, did you? If you had, you'd have noticed this (the 7th entry on the first page): http://mesh.medill.northwestern.edu/mnschicago/archives/2003/04/when_dogs_attac.html |
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Luna
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Joined: May 23 2006 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 14 |
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Posted: May 30 2006 at 2:17pm |
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First, these were not feral dogs they were pit bulls running loose (strays). Pit bulls are bred to be vicious but in most cases they still aren't mean until the people who own them make them mean. And abused pit bulls, who've recently run away from home are a far cry from abandoned house pets or feral dogs. This is very different as I wrote in my last message. Here's much more accurate coverage of that story: http://mesh.medill.northwestern.edu/mnschicago/archives/2003/04/when_dogs_attac.html |
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Fastcard
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Joined: February 27 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 216 |
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Posted: June 06 2006 at 11:37pm |
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Luna, get real.
Feral dogs can be a problem, In my twenties I lived in the Four corners area of Colorado, the local ranchers, hated feral dogs they were a problem. All of these ranchers were dog owners and a lot of them had working dogs. If they saw dogs in packs they just got out the ranch rifle and shot them no questions asked. I myself have seen them hunting everything from deer to cattle. Have I been attacked no, we are not their first choice, but if we were their only choice you would be in a very dangerous situation.Why do you think so many races and cultures are afraid of dogs? I have two dogs (golden retrievers) they have plenty of supplies put away. I consider them essential team members in any survival scenario. I do rely on them now and i will rely on them in the future......but I do not kid myself about feral dogs. |
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A Bible verse that is just perfect...... for the situation. |
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janetn
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Joined: February 04 2006 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 333 |
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Posted: June 07 2006 at 7:24am |
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I live in a rural area where people from the city seem to think its ok to dump their dogs. These dogs turn wild -not in weeks like Katrina but months they pack up and DO attack humans. It happens in my area at least once a year. Fortunatly nobody has been killed yet that I know of. If you think these wild dogs dont attack humans you better check with some folks in the country.
Like I said I had my own run in with feral dogs a few years ago - dont care to repeat it
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2ifbyC
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Joined: March 30 2006 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 533 |
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Posted: June 07 2006 at 6:58pm |
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One reason you do not often hear of feral dog packs attacking humans is that in a populated area animal control will usually take care of 'em.
On the other hand, out in the country those folk practice the Three S's:
Shoot
Shovel
Shut up
Ergo, no news reports...
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Survival does have an 'I'!
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Posted: June 07 2006 at 7:53pm |
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I took a walk yesterday and was growled at by a neighborhood dog. A little gray squirrel ran right up to me, stopped, stared at me, and then walked slowly off. A bird was sitting, and i mean sitting on his rump(?) with his legs out straight, in my driveway. He flew off after a couple of minutes.
then... this evening, as i was sitting outside at dusk, off in the distance I heard the howling of many coyotes, or dogs...I have to say, it made me tremble. Has anyone else seen strange behavior in the animals in their area? Feral dogs? I am really thankful that we have some protection. |
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Wraith
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Joined: February 06 2006 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 22 |
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Posted: July 04 2006 at 11:52am |
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To anybody who says that feral dogs will not be a real problem , that you don't have to worry about them attacking you and that documented cases don't exist all I have to say is I've been there, done that.
As I stated above my cousin WAS attacked by two feral (wild) dogs. He was 13 and deer hunting with his dad here in southern california. It was Oct. 22 1988. He was waiting for his dad to come out of the brush so they could walk back to the jeep when behind him at about 40 yds two dogs came out of the brush (one was a pit bull, one was a german shepard mix). By the time he heard the noise of them running and turned they were within 30 yds and running full tilt at him growling and barking. Thankfully he kept his wits and was able to shoot both of them before they could get to him. He hit the shepard first and it turned and ran into the brush and the pit dropped dead 15 ft from him.
Several years later my dad and sister were in the same area setting up camp and when they were finished they went for a walk. Just out of camp they came across two dogs walking towards them on the same trail in the brush. When the dogs saw them they charged them from a distance of 40 ft. and all my dad had time to do was fire a shot from the hip, hitting nothing but dirt but it scared the dogs enough to break the charge and send them flying back into the brush.
Are these documented cases? Will you find out about them by doing a google search? Nope. The game wardens were told about it when we came across them out in the field and all they said was to shoot any dog you see out in the hills. No report was made, so therefore no record can be found. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and that's fine but when you come right down to it all a dog is is a wild animal that was removed from the wild and breed to serve mankind. When mankind is no longer there to feed him he WILL get his food, one way or another.
My opinion? I shoot every single dog I see in the hills that does not belong there and yes, you can tell when you see them if they belong there or not. Have you ever seen a strong deer herd decimated by a non native species (i.e. DOGS)? I have. Rabbits disapear, coyotes disapear, birds that nest on the ground disapear and at night all you hear is the different packs of dogs howling and barking as they chase something through the brush to kill it. You think coyotes and lions will take care ofthe problem? Trust me, they dont.
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Cygnet
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Posted: July 05 2006 at 5:36pm |
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Off topic, but -- Wraith, do I know you? ;) Your writing style is very similar to the style I remember from Wraith from S8.
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starfire
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Joined: May 16 2006 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 36 |
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Posted: July 05 2006 at 10:12pm |
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I just heard on animal planet that 300 people in the USA die evey year from dog attacks.Imagine thousands of dogs not being feed by owners,now we have thousands of wild dogs very hungry.I think I'll buy a few more boxes of shot gun shells.I once was chased by a rabid dog.Maybe a few more boxes of those shells.
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pyasmine
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Joined: July 06 2006 Location: Cote D’Ivoire Online Status: Offline Posts: 1 |
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Posted: July 06 2006 at 4:00am |
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sudsey
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Posted: July 06 2006 at 4:43am |
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I've heard there is one born every minute - " Princess", but HONESTLY. Go peddle elsewhere.!!!
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