FOOD

One of my major food preps was a large variety of sprouting seeds.  We love sprouts and the will be easy fresh greens until we can bring in a garden.  A large supply doesn't take up an inordinate amount of space and nutrition vs cost vs taste can't be beat.

Sprouts go well with many things, including beans and rice.  Scrambled (dehydrated) eggs and tuna or salmon wraps. 

one of the best places to go to get those questions answered is a www.survivalacres.com the guy who runs that business is very helpful and can direct you to make the best possible choices. I don't work for him but have ordered from him and was very pleased with his insight and knowledge!

Meewee

I am a team member over at AR15,com, the survival forum puts together group buys about every two-three months. I have been in on the last three, very well done.

The prices cannot be beat anywhere 40-60% off retail. Free shipping on orders over $500.00. The people who put the buy together do it for the people in the survival forum, it is not about money to them. The #10 cans have a very long shelf life. I use alot of the 1/2/4 serving pouches. The food is tasty, but of course, high in sodium.

 

here is the Mountain House website linky http://www.mountainhouse.com/

I am in the Southeast,sorry.

I'm sending orders out to NY, PA and NJ all the time.  But I'd like to comment about the trucking and group buys.

Group buys require you to wait until everyone has ordered (usually) and paid their money.  Then the orders go in and you pay whatever the group 'buy' price is.  I have always been able to beat these prices, but don't do group buys very often simply because they are a hassle for all concerned.

Group ordering for freight is similiar, you have to wait until enough people have ordered to either fill up a freight truck or enough orders accumulate to single drop off point (minimum 1,000 lbs) to qualify for freight shipment.

In both cases, you're having to wait on enough people getting on board, which is fine under normal circumstances, but I don't think these are normal circumstances right now.  In fact, I think we are all in dire trouble.

The fastest way is to get people you know to order all at the same time and get a freight shipment going, combining the orders to a single destination point.  A 1,000 lbs is really not a very big order and can easily be "wished for" by a single family (or even an individual), but I acknowledge that it isn't cheap or easy for people to just up and do.  We are just not used to buying food like this in advance.

I would like to caution people on what is happening now with food shipments - at the moment, freight shipments are five weeks out (orders going in now).  This is only going to get worse and worse.  Having survived the Y2K rush, I can tell you that we expect to exceed that demand by a thousand fold - which is really only another way of saying, "forget it".  Once shipment times reach several months (and they will), those who have waited that long to try to stock up will be in a very very, risky position.  This is ill advised in my opinion.

UPS times are not too bad still, 2 - 3 weeks.  We've made a huge amount of progress, but we're working 7 days a week right now (at least I am).  We can't go any faster, and I fully expect these times to increase to what we saw pre-Y2K (10 months or more).

So - you decide what your "pucker factor" is (how long you can wait) before you panic or start to "lose it".  I'm already seeing this now with people wanting it yesterday but ordering tomorrow and getting it next week and still aren't happy.  We really are doing the best we can.

I've been warning those who will hear that the food pipeline is only so big and can only produce just so much.  We "there" right now.  Shipping times are now going to continue to increase as order volume goes up.  Availability of goods is going to do the opposite as manufacturers get tapped out.

This is not something limited to just the canneries.  I've noticed a lack of certain supplies in particular in the major stores.  I can't find a ham for example, to save my life.  Well, yes I did, but I had to drive 30 miles to get it (so I bought more then one).  Same with brown sugar and some other basic staples, Costco was sold out.

I also have heard about the major distribution centers - they are running as fast as they can too.  We're "there" right now and it will be interesting, scary, disturbing, you name it, to see what happens next.  I'm not looking forward to the other shoe dropping.

What is REALLY going to be scary is when sustained H2H makes the news, then all bets are off.  I have heard from many various officials in unconfirmed reports.  I don't think anyone is making a mistake by prepping.  Buy what you eat, eat what you buy.  Don't wait and don't fool around.  It's a cheap insurance policy that you can cash in and probably will.

Order now to avoid back orders. If and when the media picks up the H2H, wherever it may be, the stores will be depleted quickly.

 i cannot order the stuff....i have tried but i am in canadier eeh....