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    Posted: July 09 2009 at 1:51pm
The vast majority of people that die of the flu did not get the vaccine. Of the Peds deaths the vast majority had NOT been vaacinated. In Florida only 17.8% of the entire population received the flu shot this past year. THERE is the issue. NOT the drug
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As we know, some medications such as tamiflu has been proven to be effective in fighting the recent H1S1(swine flu).  However, it has not been most effective in combating some other types of flu.    Some good news: Researchers recently identified human antibodies that seem to neutralize some flu viruses, including the bird flu strain -- a finding that could lead to more-effective treatments.

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I can't remember which forum I read about where to purchase Tamiflu (from reputable source). Can someone point me to the correct formum? Is this an over-the-counter drug in Canada?

Is there any info on oscillococcinum (natural homeopathic remedy for colds)? This is easily obtainable. What other antivirals are available (Relenza, etc) that people on this forum would recommend?
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Mary08, where have you found Chinese Star Anise? I did not find any at my local grocery stores, and I heard most grocery stores carried it. Maybe the health food store has it, but I'm not sure. I have been looking for some.
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Amantadine is not useful because the virus is resistant to this drug. We are hoping that Tamiflu will continue to work. If I were you I would use the Tamiflu first and if still sick go for the Amantadine. Go to the web sites for Tamiflu and Amantadine and it will give you the dose.

If I am wrong some of you medical people need to say different. If it was my child or family member that is what I would do.
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Don't know if this is the right place to ask...but here it goes!
If I fear any of my family are infected I plan to use tamiflu and amantadine. This is based on info I read years ago about H5N1...today I have no idea If amantadine is still usefull and what doses?
If anyone can explain this to me...Thanks!
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I have no idea if tamiflu would even work on whatevr happened to come along.... but not to be left out... I decided to MAKE my own.  Now stop yer laughin :)
 
I just bashed some Whole Chinese Star Anise (if it's whole you know it's real) in a morter and then I put it in a small bottle of vodka.... vintage 2006
 
I put a tiny bit in a cup of tea.... it is Very...strong. about 1/8 teasoopn is all I used in a cup of tea.  Don't give it to a child without asking your doctor, of course I suggest asking a doctor before taking anything because some drugs interact, be safe.
 
 
other people wanted to try to make it.  (below) Ask a drugist also as they are aware of drug interactions or what they term, contraindications.   :)
 
 
  • Tamiflu and Star Anise... Antiviral for Avian Flu Treatment ...

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    Roche primarily obtains shikimic acid from the Chinese star anise, ... a day or two of your first symptoms. Then you take Tamiflu twice a day for five days. ... patent and make its own generic version of the drug without a license. ...
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    Just 10 days ago, these farmers faced such low prices for star anise, some didn't bother to harvest their crops. ... Many governments don't stock enough supplies of Tamiflu to deal with ... of star anise, extracting it from the plant remains a key way to make the drug, experts say. .... Get Your Own Free Message Board!
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  • How To Make Your Own Bitters : Drink Dogma

    Chinese star anise is a traditional spice in East Asian cooking; ... an issue because they came up with other ways to make Tamiflu without star anise. ... Make sure to make the individual tinctures and blend them to your own liking. ...
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    Fortunately, before the disease can star pillaging and burninating, ... baby fetuses (or Chinese Star anise) and it’s already simplistic biosynthesis in ... But Bee Emm Tea is a clever old fox, and decided to make Oseltamivir NOT from ... a “Trost Catalyst” (-10 for using your own name to describe your catalyst. ...
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  • Tamiflu - Drug information from Medic8.com

    In June 2006, the Chinese government gave Shanghai Pharmaceuticals permission to .... Thirteen grams of star anise make 1.3 grams of shikimic acid, ... Always consult your own doctor if you are in any way concerned about your health. ...
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  • Bird Flu Update - Tamiflu

    In fact, star anise has a long history in Chinese herbal medicines, ... has urged local drug manufacturers to try to make their own versions of Tamiflu. ...
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    Don’t you need the seeds of the Chinese plant, star anise? ... Then we can make it into a suit. To manufacture oseltamivir on a very very ... And other companies have their own sources of star anise, and Roche has developed a fermentation method. ... RW: New Scientist says this week that your target is a million ...
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    More commonly used in Chinese cooking and for flavoring liqueurs such as ... Only star anise grown in the four provinces of China is suitable for ... Cipla Ltd. Plans to Make Generic Version of Tamiflu As if you didn’t know already, the H5N1 strain of. ... USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. WE EXPRESSLY DISCLAIM ALL WARRANTIES. ...
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    Heres a great link to a website that stocks and sells tamiflu for roughly £10 for a years protection

    www.fightflunow.com

    its an anti-viral medication that one should take on the first offset of sympotms, as many say it is not a vaccine, as is there is no vaccine for the strain becuase it mutates too quickly
    it inhibits the virus from replicating
    which is worth it considering it can cause death

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    Hi,
     
    Over the past few years, most people who died after having the flu, did not die from the flu virus.  They died from the post flu pneumonia.  Their immune systems are weakened after being so sick and an opportunistic bug sets up shop and they get pneumonia. 
     
    If you have the regular flu - stay home and stay in bed.  Don't be a hero and run to the market -- that's where you get exposed to the pathogen that causes pneumonia -- usually a bacteria called streptococcus pneumoniae.  Community acquired pneumonia is normally treated with antibiotics like azithromycin (zpack).
     
    Now Avaian Influenza is different kettle of fish.  It's high mortality rate is due to the fact that the vius sets up shop in the lungs (where regular flu receptor's are in the throat.)  This virus can cause it's own pneumonia (viral pneumonia) and antibiotics won't work.  Your only hope is an antiviral like tamiflu.
     
    I hope it helps,
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    I am a UK pharmacist and I can obtain Tamiflu again from one of my suppliers.  It was out of stock for months but I ordered a pack yesterday just to see and it came in!

    So if any of you really want some - time to find a friendly doctor.  They can issue a private script in the UK - you pay the price of the meds to the Pharmacist - about 25 for 10 capsules.
    You have no chance of getting an NHS script as all NHS prescribing is monitored but the private stuff is not.
     
     
    Pharmacists cannot supply this without a UK prescription so don't even ask! Nor can it be shipped it abroad as you need an export license to send meds abroad.
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    If you are in central Florida and If you have or can get a tamiflu script for at least a 30 pack and have no cash. Cash I got/Tamiflu I dont. Maybe I can help.
     
    PM me!
     
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     i beg your pardon, clown??
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    I explained to this clown before that thousands die every year from flu because they are typically elderly with severly compromised immune systems. Geez.....
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    i got an rx from m y gp today and my neighborhood parmacy filled it.
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    Honestly I would take my chance with some tamiflu rather than a vaccine. Any mutation and the vaccine does not work - tamiflu works by inhibiting the enzyme needed to replicate - thus why it works on mutiple flus.
    However, tamiflu can NOT WORK if the virus adapts.
     
    I have not yet - but working hard to aquire.
     
    Anyone having luck getting any this late in the game?
     
    local pharmacies say they have some left - getting a script
    is another story.
     
    Ideas? Suggestions? Cash I have - tamiflu I dont.
     
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    How many of you guys have tamiflu?  (I haven't any).  I wish I had managed to get some in time, but unavailable now I understand.
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    I think what is important to realize is that Tamiflu does not prevent flu.  It only shortens the duration of symptoms.  Because there is no documented transmission of person to person spread of avian flu, we really don't know how it would work once someone actually contracted the disease. If it could prevent the flu, you would need enough to take for the entire duration of an outbreak.  So, in a six week outbreak, at a normal dose, you would have to have 84 pills per person.  Not feasible.
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    Last night I read that Lauricidin is non PX and also will/may help, if you are not able to get a PX. 
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    People die of flu in this country because they already have compromised immune systems. Tamiflu is not a vaccine but a drug used to limit the time one sick.

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    maybe it is a crap thing maybe

    this rumsfield must be in jail with the german compagny,and some of the fda as welll...........

    dont give me a maybe figures talks.tamiflu dont work.

    ignorance.
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    Maybe most of those 36,000 didn't have Tamiflu. 

    Maybe they had other health problems so it didn't help.

    Maybe............... 

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    tamiflu ,dont work,if it works can you please explain to me why 36 000deaths occur in the us per year.............
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    yes, I have also read throught the news that they are recommending you double the dosage of tamilflu. but, that was in the beginning of Feb.  I don't know where the health officials stand on that now.
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    Willow41,

    I read somewhere (not on the Tamiflu website) that for the Bird Flu, not the regular flu, you needed to take Tamiflu for ten days, not five as listed.  I wish I could recall and attach the link.  Maybe someone else has it? 

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    go to the Tamiflu webisite. the dosage recommendations for adults and children are listed. I printed them off to keep on hand.
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    Important information about Tamiflu.

    Recommendation about how to obtain it

    Recommendations about how to take it.

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