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MissRX
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Posted: February 16 2006 at 10:26am |
I'm looking to buy some eye protection, but I have no idea what to get or where. Any ideas?
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You can purchase swimmin goggles for eye protection..I picked up 2 in a package for a buck last year..going to go look for more this spring...But if you wear eyeglasses you may have to look at another alternative, even Leavitte in one of his news reports said that the swimming googles would be just fine...they are airtight...
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Yes but they get foggy easily ...
If you wear glasses, either a face screen or a full face mask (special galsses can be worn inside the mask) |
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Rocky
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Still looking for eye protection that can be worn when taking care of an ill
person and/or worn if in an unknown contamination environmet. Want them to be able to be disinfected in bleach water or some other solution. Haven't gotten anything and am getting a little nervous about not covering that item. Ah yes, needs to be able to be worn over glasses and yet have a secure enough fit to provide protection. Thanks. Rocky |
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You can buy a spray for the googles..I am sure it is in another post here..an anti-defogger for goggles..swimmers use it all the time....and I think with any eye protection you will get the foggies... Goggles are great for those prepping on a cheap budget..like me.. |
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I keep a pair of cheap safety goggles in my medical kit. Picked them up for $1 at a dollar store. Will work over glasses. They have tiny air vents on the side. If you are worried about these air holes, they could be easily sealed up with tape or silicone.
The primary use of goggles is to prevent droplet infection of the eyes, and to remind us not to touch our eyes with contaminated hands. Anti-fogging sprays are available in dive shops. Tip: If you don't have anti-fogging spray, a slice of raw potato will work. It's isn't as long lasting as the commercial spray, but it is cheap, and it does work. It's an old diver's trick. Edited by Fla_Medic |
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AuntBones
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The Walmart here had a good choice of swimmimg gogles. I did try several diffrent pairs, got the ones with sun protection. Around six dollars,and a good fit.
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I play paintball and there is antifogging sprays that work really well at wal-mart or any sports store that has paintball supplys, you can run all day and the lens never fog.
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outsidethecamp
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Well, I just returned from another $1000 shopping trip to our trusty
Walmart where, in addition to numerous other supplies, I
purchased 2 prs. of groovy swimming goggles for $6.87 a pair.
I couldn't help but think that if I had to wear these stupid looking things (mirrored lenses) in addition to my shower cap, N95 face mask, surgical gown & gloves and rubber boots, it would scare the Hell out of any healthy person, let alone someone who was sick & delirious!!! God bless us all! Peggy in MN |
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AuntBones
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LOL Outside, we will look good in our mirrored lenses
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Andy
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you can pick up military resperators cheaply, this would not only cover the eyes, but also breathing. In the UK their name is 'S10' you can pick them up on ebay. |
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I hope I'm just a scare monger...
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Rocky
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Okay, guess I just don't get it. Doesn't eye protection have to be fitted
closely to the face, as do masks? If not, there are some solutions for those of us who must wear eye protection over Rx glasses. But if the eye protection does have to be a tight fit to the face, what would work??? Thanks. Rocky |
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outsidethecamp
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Hi Rocky...
I was thinking the same as you when I found the swimming goggles @ Walmart. They're not the little kiddie kind, but the ones like the olympic swimmers wear. I figure that if they can keep H2O out, they'll hopefully keep all the germies out too. The only prob. is that you can't wear them over RX glasses. I did find some on ebay that can be worn over glasses but they don't have 1/2 the seal as the swimming ones do. Lord willing, we won't have to wear either of them. God help us all... Peggy in MN |
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AnitaRNpulmo
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Ventless goggles are a better protection, vented particulate goggles prevent from direct exposure (mostly worn during sars). Main concern is fogging. You have too air-tight/gas proof goggles ( as against irritating vapours, tear gas, ....) efficient. Rubber made. In any case you can only wear lenses contact non glasses. If you wish a full face protection with glasses, the hoods or full face respirator designed for glasses wearing inside the mask. shall post in the next hours more about personal protection in my page .... |
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Rocky
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Hi and thanks for replying,
I understand that ventless would be better protection but concern is fogging. According to other posts, there is spray (found in paintball or diving supplies) that can be applied to lessen fogging issue) My question remains, sadly. If only a full face shield works with Rx glasses, how is there protection for anything except splattering. There certainly wouldn't be any kind of seal, right? Does that matter for the eyes if one is of course wearing a mask. Is it only splattering that is dangerous to infection through the eyes. Or is there an airborne danger, which of course wouldn't be protected by a full face shield worn over Rx glasses and a N95 mask. Still in the dark. Sorry to be so dense. Many thanks. Rocky
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RotroShaggy
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Has anyone here tried to wear goggles whiile at the smae time wearing a N95 respirator? I have and I have concerns. I can't get a 100% seal on the goggles without compromising the seal on the N95. Any suggestions out there would be VERY appreciated. If I had to choose, I woul make the 100% fit on the N95 first priority and then settle fot the 90% fit on the goggles and hope for the best.
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Hope
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Hi Anita, Can you suggest where to buy online the best goggles? I went to your blogspot and ordered the masks you recommended. Thanks for info! I saw all the different goggles too, but would love to know where to buy. Any suggestions? Also, can I just get one pair for each family member and clean (with what?) after each use, or should I buy more than one pair and toss. Hope |
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Rocky
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Goggles Again
Some of us are looking for specific answers to questions regarding eye protection. 1. I wear glasses. Where can I get a pair of goggles to fit securely over them. Suggestions of full face mask doesn't work because a secure fit for the eyes is not obtained. 2. For a non-glasses user, how can one get a good fit for goggles over a N95 mask. They are having problems regarding this issue. If no one has answers to these questions, can you point us in some direction where we may do further research. I have already done a fair amount and haven't gotten a reasonable answer. Many thanks for your patience. Rocky |
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Hope
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Okay, well....I need to buy something this weekend... I'm wondering if a swimmer's goggle might be best as it fits tightly on the face and around the masks. Like someone else said, if these keep water out, they would keep "other" out. And I also read that paint ball fog spray is great.
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MissRX
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How frustrating. Everywhere I go, I cannot seem to get answers on which goggles are best. I have found goggles like these: but they do have holes in the sides. Is that of concern when trying to not get the flu? Also, the masks are large. how do you protect your eyes & mouth & nose together? |
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Grim72
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You can find virtually anything you want to help prevent bird flu - whether it is goggles, masks, posters, gloves, hand cleansers, protective clothing or any other health and safety products on:
www.safetyshop.com |
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Dear Folks, I have seen ads for "prescription swimming goggles" on optical swim wear sites on the internet. Unfortunately, I do not remember which sites they were,, but do remember that the ads were a result of either a Google or Yahoo search nd there were more than one site who offered them, but not too many. As a wearer of glasses I also have interest in a viable solution but have put off doing anything about it.....seems like the toughest aspect of preps o resolvesatisfactorily. Good luck.......Bootsie |
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Rocky
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I finally, after not getting any clear answers about whether safety glasses/
goggles need to fit snuggly all around the face to limit airborne, rather than just sprayed virus, I bought a variety of goggles from a online medical company. The results are still not conclusive for me. The disposable face shield ($40 for 24 units) has elastic the holds the soft plastic against the forehead. This is the most comforable, covers a large area and works well with glasses. However, it certainly wouldn't help keep airborne virus from entering the eye. As all of the goggles, it is to be worn in conjunction with a mask/respirator. There is an "Over the Glasses", clear lens pair of goggles ($6 each) that works fairly well. Not terribly comfortable and lots of gaps all around the glasses/goggles. Had side protectors build in. Eye Guard Glasses ($2 each) is supposed to be able to be worn with Rx glasses, but was far less satisfactory then the "Over the Glasses". I got the regular size, thinking they would work best over glasses. But I think they are better used as just protective glasses without Rx glasses underneath. I would get the small for me since they run quite large. The medium, worn alone, is much too big for me. The best (without Rx glasses) that I tried was the Fectoggles, strap attachment, clear lenses. There is a thin foam padding around the edges of the glasses so the fit is much more protective than any of the others. However it certainly wouldn't be qualified as an airtight fit. They are quite comforable. I got the medium and it fit my face, which is fairly small. They costs $13 each. I would love others to add their experiences/knowledge to this ongoing problem. Maybe there is just not a goggle made that fits airtight, with or without Rx glasses, So maybe the best one can do is to protect your eyes from splatters. I wish I knew how dangerous that would be when treating an ill patient. If airborne particles of the virus (for that matter, this would be a danger if one is outside) make contact with the eye membrane, could this be a potential site for infection? Please keep this post going with ideas. Looks like a lot of us are "stuck" on this one. Thank you. Rocky |
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AnitaRNpulmo
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Medical staff who have to wear glasses and non lenses, must wear either
a splash guard shield, or for airtight protection, the PAPR hood.
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