Suspect Fatal SARS in Russia ex-China

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******** Commentary 19:17
April 15, 2009
A Chinese woman has died from what may be Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) while traveling on a train from the Far East Russian city of Blagoveshchensk to Moscow, a medical source said on Wednesday. 

The train was stopped in the central Russian city of Kirov and around 60 train passengers were sent to a local hospital. 

Six of them are reported as running fevers, the source said, although Kirov Region officials have said that none of them were suffering from SARS.

The above comments describe a suspect fatal SARS infection of a passenger traveling from northeast China to Moscow (see map).  Although atypical pneumonia was the initial diagnosis, the etiological agent has not been identified.

SARS presents as atypical pneumonia and is caused by a novel coronavirus (SARS-CoV).  Other strains cause the common cold, as well as other respiratory disease.  SARS spread internationally in early 2003 when a physician, who had been treating SARS patients in Guandong Province, traveled to Hong Kong to attend a wedding.

He stayed in room 911 at the Metropole Hotel and vomited outside the elevator on the 9th floor.  Other guests with rooms on the ninth floor became infected and spread the disease to Toronto, Hanoi, Singapore, and Hong Kong.  Additional travelers spread the infection to Taiwan.  There were approximately 900 confirmed fatalities and the spread of the disease cause significant political and travel impact.

The virus had links to civet cats in Guangdong Province, as well as other exotic animals, but its natural reservoir was also identified in bats.

A recurrence of SARS is likely, but the above fatality has not been confirmed.  Symptoms can be confused with avian influenza. The first confirmed H5N1 case in mainland China was infected in Beijing during a SARS outbreak, and was initially diagnosed as SARS.  The H5N1 (A/Beijing/1/2003) was clade 7 and a clade 7 outbreak was reported in Jiangsu at the end of 2008.  That outbreak was followed by a spate of H5N1 in China, including Beijing.  The cases suddenly stopped in January.

The proximity of the originating train station to northeastern China raises additional concerns.

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Elver Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Valued Member Joined: June 14 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7778	Post Options Post Reply Quote Elver Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Suspect Fatal SARS in Russia ex-China Posted: April 15 2009 at 7:48pm
	Suspect Fatal SARS in Russia ex-China This website won't allow me to paste in actual link, but is from a form of the word 're-combine', if you get my meaning I'm sure you're familiar with it. ******** Commentary 19:17 April 15, 2009 A Chinese woman has died from what may be Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) while traveling on a train from the Far East Russian city of Blagoveshchensk to Moscow, a medical source said on Wednesday. The train was stopped in the central Russian city of Kirov and around 60 train passengers were sent to a local hospital. Six of them are reported as running fevers, the source said, although Kirov Region officials have said that none of them were suffering from SARS. The above comments describe a suspect fatal SARS infection of a passenger traveling from northeast China to Moscow (see map). Although atypical pneumonia was the initial diagnosis, the etiological agent has not been identified. SARS presents as atypical pneumonia and is caused by a novel coronavirus (SARS-CoV). Other strains cause the common cold, as well as other respiratory disease. SARS spread internationally in early 2003 when a physician, who had been treating SARS patients in Guandong Province, traveled to Hong Kong to attend a wedding. He stayed in room 911 at the Metropole Hotel and vomited outside the elevator on the 9th floor. Other guests with rooms on the ninth floor became infected and spread the disease to Toronto, Hanoi, Singapore, and Hong Kong. Additional travelers spread the infection to Taiwan. There were approximately 900 confirmed fatalities and the spread of the disease cause significant political and travel impact. The virus had links to civet cats in Guangdong Province, as well as other exotic animals, but its natural reservoir was also identified in bats. A recurrence of SARS is likely, but the above fatality has not been confirmed. Symptoms can be confused with avian influenza. The first confirmed H5N1 case in mainland China was infected in Beijing during a SARS outbreak, and was initially diagnosed as SARS. The H5N1 (A/Beijing/1/2003) was clade 7 and a clade 7 outbreak was reported in Jiangsu at the end of 2008. That outbreak was followed by a spate of H5N1 in China, including Beijing. The cases suddenly stopped in January. The proximity of the originating train station to northeastern China raises additional concerns.

rymich13 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List V.I.P. Member Joined: August 24 2008 Status: Offline Points: 15	Post Options Post Reply Quote rymich13 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: April 16 2009 at 3:55am
	according to this article they have ruled out sars, Suspected SARS death on Russian train confirmed as pneumonia 13:29 \| 16/ 04/ 2009 NIZHNY NOVGOROD, April 16 (RIA Novosti) - A Chinese woman, who became ill on a Moscow-bound train, died of acute respiratory viral infection (ARVI), not SARS, investigators said on Thursday. Earlier reports said the 23-year-old Chinese woman could have died of double pneumonia or Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS), a respiratory disease that can be spread through the air. "The autopsy has shown that the death of the Chinese national occurred as a result of acute respiratory viral infection, pulmonary and cerebral edema. Blood samples have been sent to Moscow for analysis," a statement said. The train travelling from the Far East Russian city of Blagoveshchensk was stopped at Zuyevka station central Russia's Kirov Region, where 52 Chinese passengers and seven Russians were sent to a local hospital. "All of the people who were taken to hospital yesterday were admitted. Their health is described as satisfactory," a hospital source said without giving further details. The carriage in which the woman was travelling was decoupled from the rest of the train, which then continued on its way to the capital. The train arrived in north Moscow's Yaroslavl train terminal early on Thursday following a one-hour delay. The Chinese woman was accompanied by her husband, mother and father, who all had slight temperatures. The relatives said the woman had been ill since April 11 and they thought she had been poisoned. Sanitary cordons were set up in Russia's Far East to prevent the spread of the suspected disease. Security measures were tightened to control the entry of Chinese citizens entering Russia. All passengers had to pass a medical examination before they were allowed to travel. http://en.rian.ru/russia/20090416/121157796.html

rymich13 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List V.I.P. Member Joined: August 24 2008 Status: Offline Points: 15	Post Options Post Reply Quote rymich13 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: April 16 2009 at 11:58am
	at this point they don't have a clue as to what disease caused this. the lab tests are pending.

abc1234 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: September 28 2007 Status: Offline Points: 32	Post Options Post Reply Quote abc1234 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: April 16 2009 at 1:33pm
	Well, rymich13, that nutcase Niman is already off about how it is obviously H5N1. So, rest assured, it is anything but lol.

Elver Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Valued Member Joined: June 14 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7778	Post Options Post Reply Quote Elver Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: April 16 2009 at 8:04pm
	Niman has a PhD from the University of S. California. I don't understand how anyone can call him a "nutcase" considering that they wouldn't even begin to understand what even 1 of his patents means. Wouldn't it be something if he was the only person who really understood this stuff? http://hygimia69.blogspot.com/2009/04/reuters-alertnet-who-says-53.html Excerpts below. "Samples have been taken from the woman and her contacts and laboratory investigations are ongoing." "WHO authorities are working with Russian authorities to track the case and ensure it did not represent an international public health threat, Setiogi said." "It can take days or longer to establish causes of death and many illnesses and infections have similar symptoms, making it very difficult to reach such conclusions quickly." ____________________________________________________________________ http://en.rian.ru/russia/20090416/121157796.html "Suspected SARS death on Russian train confirmed as pneumonia" "The autopsy has shown that the death of the Chinese national occurred as a result of acute respiratory viral infection, pulmonary and cerebral edema. Blood samples have been sent to Moscow for analysis," a statement said. ____________________________________________________________________ Now back to Niman's statement - "The above comments on the train passengers quarantined in Russia raise concerns that the atypical bilateral pneumonia in the fatal case was caused by H5N1. China had issued an alert in January for atypical pneumonia cases because of the spate of H5N1 infections. These human infections were not linked to H5N1 confirmed poultry outbreaks and the reported cases ceased in February.