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They would have to figure out how much they eat at each meal then multiply it by 30 days. So if they eat 2 cans of green beans per 5 people at dinner, then they would need 60 cans of green beans for a month, or corn, or carrots, etc. Then you have to do that with each meal for each item that you buy/eat. I only buy what I know we will eat, although I do have some rice and beans, just for standby, my daughter hates rice, so I only try to stock up on things that both of us like.
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My son hated rice (actually never tried it) until it was part of a Chinese dinner someone else served to him.

Soooo happy he eats it now. I can't imagine trying to keep potatoes (which he will only eat if French fried) for any length of time.

Rice is so versatile!
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Thanks everybody been a lot of help. I'am going with PenHam 60 cans of veg. so I'm going to tell her 30 days of stay alive food will be 15 lbs of rice and 15 lbs of beans and 60 cans of veg. Does not sound very good
even if it means staying alive and safe. Again thanks.
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There is still soup, pasta, Knorr SideKicks (mmmm), canned meat (I prefer flakes of ham), canned stews etc.
All can be made on a Coleman stove or BBQ burner, but she likely will still have power anyway.
And if she has power she can freeze and cook as she normally does so is not restricted to rice and canned veggies.

The important thing to consider in stocking for short term is to have on hand anything that would otherwise cause you to have to leave your house. ... So have enough food (canned, dried, or frozen), medications, paper products, fem.products, diapers, batteries, coffee/tea/juices, pet food and kitty litter if needed, garbage bags, soaps and detergents, and toothpaste.

If cost is an issue, canned soups and rice for sure... but bullion and spices go a long way toward making cheap meals tasty. Pasta and sauce are inexpensive too, pizza mixes are sometimes on sale, and tortilla bread can make any leftover into the next meal's wrap... with rice, beans, salsa and cheddar, tortillas become burritos :)
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GN, you would be the best one to ask then -- where do you find canned flakes of ham? All I can find around here is a finely cubed Spam-like substance. Not my fave. And does any brand still make stew with chunks of beef? I've tried Dinty Moore, a few off-brands, and I believe Hormel, all in the last year, and they all seemed to be made with something more like chunks of hamburger instead of chunks of sliced roast beef. Any ideas greatly appreciated.
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500g rice (1.1lbs) will feed a family of 5 for one meal if there is little else to eat with it. So if you allow 1lb and cook it with stock cubes in the water and maybe some dehydrated veg, you would have one meal for 5 people. 

I cook 300 g macaroni to feed four of us with a cheese sauces, so I would say 400g for 5 people. 

So for one month, for 5 people, get 30lbs of rice, 60 bouillon cubes (2 per pot), some dehydrated veg. That will provide one good meal per day for 5 people. 

Then get oatmeal, dried milk powder, and water. Work out how many cups you need to make porridge for 5 people and multiply that by 30, and that'll breakfast. 

Then work out a third meal. Perhaps pasta plus a tinned or bottled sauce and some dried parmesan? or anything else that is easy. Be sure your daughter has some form of camping cooker. 

Another really good thing to look into is haybox cookery. Basically it is a box (any kind of box will do, sturdy cardboard, or a wooden box). You stuff the bottom very tightly with about 4 inches of hay, then you stand a saucepan in the middle and pack it very tightly all around with hay. Finally you put a good compressed wadge of hay on the top and close up the box. 

The idea is that you bring whatever it is you are cooking up to a rolling boil and then you quickly put the saucepan in the haybox and it will continue cooking using no fuel at all, just the insulative qualities of the hay will prevent it losing heat. I have a homemade haybox from an old wooden record cabinet laid on its back. I have put castors on the bottom so it will roll in under our kitchen table. 
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You can do a lot with rice, beans and veggies. Fried rice with veggies could make a meal, refried beans, if you had tortillas you could make bean burritos, veggie soup, bean soup, add a can of tuna/chicken/ham and a can of mushroom soup and you could make a casserole with the rice & veggies.
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Stuffed bell peppers as well. One thing I stock up around this time is hard candies from the after halloween specials.  Hard candies are a recommended comfort food for emergencies and a great barter item for those with children or sweet tooths :)
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Ahhh great idea Hachi! I always buy all my candy for Christmas stockings and goody bags the day after Halloween when everything is half price.
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Another great idea is to buy or make hard cheeses and cut down to small sizes. Dip them in cheese wax and store them in a cool pantry or cellar. I hang a few in net bags in my pantry from the ceiling. They'll keep for 25 years plus. Start with milder cheeses as they will gradually become sharper. You can always grab some cheese as a snack or melt it in a meal. Great source of much needed fats when times are tough!
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Oh forgot to mention dip or brush cheese wax on in 3 layers cooling in between and if you need a label add it under the last wax layer- no need for glue:)
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Originally posted by Penham Penham wrote:

Ahhh great idea Hachi! I always buy all my candy for Christmas stockings and goody bags the day after Halloween when everything is half price.


My go-to has always been dum-dum pops. :)
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Well one things for sure i'm going to have to call her back and tell her I might of been alittle short of what she needs for a months worth of food. Not to far off she just needs to double everything and get a few other things to go with the food food like a camping stove and maybe a few other things. I think dad is going to have to kick in a little money if he really want her to get it done. But you know just knowing she won't be standing behind a national guard truck fighting for MRE's it will be worth it.
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Hey Coyote! Do you use the clear sheets or the reusable wax like sheets? Working a lot right now so bananas have bee a quick easy prep. I dip mine in lemon juice, cheap and easy on hand. I'm going to bump the rice up to 2lbs uncooked rice, looking at the 1.1lb for 5 I'm guessing I will have 6-7 people to feed.
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Hey Hoosier Mom..I use the perforated plastic sheets that came with the dehydrator.. Now spraying them with a little Pam oil.. Bananas not sticking so bad now. Did kale chips..Good!
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Be careful with oils!!!!! Can cause food to go rancid over the long haul. I use the same sheets, when I think there done I loser them (flip over, bending the perforated sheets to losen them, and dehydrate a little longer). They should make a plunking/tapping sound when dry completely. Kale chips are good and I imagine a few in some rice would feel like a hearty/healthier meal, some bouillon too :)
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Check out "dehydrate2store" videos on YouTube, my favorite!
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We've been slicing and dehydrating the last of our potatoes and canning green tomato relish. This is the tenth year we've stocked 1000 catfish fingerlings in the big pond. Last spring we caught a lot of 1.5 - 3 lb bass and a ton of hand sized Blue Gills. Still haven't gotten a deer!
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Hey Arrish, good luck on getting a deer. Our gun season doesn't start till 11-15.. I still have venison left from last year!
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coyote- We're in muzzleloader right now, modern gun opens 11/8. I've had some shots I haven't taken, either too young or too old. Deer are plentiful here so I can be picky about my kills! I almost got a healthy buck with my pick up this morning on the way to town! Damn thing came out of no where! Good luck back at ya!
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Hey,Ya!! Love my traditional .50 cal Pennsylvania Muzzle loader..Season opens mid Dec.for that..Let me know what you get. I took a nice 8 pointer last year..
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All I've got is a 50 Cal Thompson/Center Hawkens. I won't shot a buck unless it's a trophy, I'd rather eat a doe!
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I hear ya, and you do know that you can't eat the horns..
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They make good knife grips though!
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I released the sticky on this since you guys started the new November prepping thread. You can merge the October thread into it if you like.
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