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Bird flu: kim chi and coconut oil

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    Posted: March 10 2006 at 8:19pm

 

Some time ago there were articles alledging bird flu could be treated by korean kim chi.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4347443.stm

This is worth investigating. Also, since bird flu is a flu virus, it should be treatable by lauric acid, which is found in coconut oil

Lauric acid is antiviral, and has been investigated for its effects on related diseases like SARS and (ordinary)influenza and also HIV...all are lipid coated viruses.

http://www.lauric.org/press.html

http://www.mercola.com/2001/jul/28/coconut_health.htm

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thank you for the post brianct
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I'll be stocking up myself on sauerkraut and already have plenty of anise star oil.

It's interesting to watch how sauerkraut is selling on eBay ...

Because of constant questions from friends I put together a small article about the sauerkraut story and how 7 Eleven (in the US and Japan) may help us out... http://www.real-food-for-thought.com

Hope this all blow away, I heard that our chicken farms are pretty much closed to the migrating birds, but there is always those free roaming chicken farms.  I use to live on a chicken farm back in the 60's in Vineland, NJ and our chickens were for the most part kept in coops.  Had to innoculate them several times a year with all types of vaccine to keep them from getting sick.  What a pain...as a teenager I hated having to pick up as many as possible (at night when they were sleeping) in both hands and have them shot with a vaccine gun.  Not a very pleasant, odor wise situation.

Have a great day!
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Mike,

Dont assume sauerkraut will help. Theres been no experiment done on that that im aware of. The food tested was korean KIM CHI,not quite the same thing:

http://www.lifeinkorea.com/culture/kimchi/kimchi.cfm

The following article: on kim chei and airconditioning shows someones paying attention:

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Seoul - South Korean firm LG Electronics is poised to start marketing an air conditioner with a filter made using an enzyme from the pungent national dish kimchi that is aimed at protecting against the bird flu virus.

Kimchi, typically made from pickled radish or cabbage packed with garlic, ginger and hot peppers, is renowned for its supposed health benefits - as well as its powerful odour.

"We developed the filter with the aim of protecting people against bird flu," LG spokesperson Park Se-won said by telephone, citing four studies from domestic and overseas institutions that she said showed the filter eliminated the deadly H5N1 virus.

etc

http://www.news24.com/News24/Technology/News/0,,2-13-1443_18 81597,00.html

 

Also, on those pesky chickens, the root of the epidemic is fctory farming, not free range chooks.

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Fowl play: The poultry industry's central role in the bird flu crisis

GRAIN | February 2006

Read the press release (Feb 2006)

Read GRAINs letter about bird flu to the FAO (Feb 2006)

Backyard or free-range poultry are not fuelling the current wave of bird flu outbreaks stalking large parts of the world. The deadly H5N1 strain of bird flu is essentially a problem of industrial poultry practices. Its epicentre is the factory farms of China and Southeast Asia and -- while wild birds can carry the disease, at least for short distances -- its main vector is the highly self-regulated transnational poultry industry, which sends the products and waste of its farms around the world through a multitude of channels. Yet small poultry farmers and the poultry biodiversity and local food security that they sustain are suffering badly from the fall-out. To make matters worse, governments and international agencies, following mistaken assumptions about how the disease spreads and amplifies, are pursuing measures to force poultry indoors and further industrialise the poultry sector. In practice, this means the end of the small-scale poultry farming that provides food and livelihoods to hundreds of millions of families across the world. This paper presents a fresh perspective on the bird flu story that challenges current assumptions and puts the focus back where it should be: on the transnational poultry industry.

http://www.grain.org/briefings/?id=194

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ez lah, super-cooked the chicken b4 eat into ya stomach, make sure its proper cooked!

all virus mati ler.

am i rite?
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How much Kim Chi should we eat?  I see it can be purchased canned but I am at a loss as to how much I should buy.
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I am not certain that anyone has or knows the set amount. I did ask this very question to the largest US manufacture of Kim Chi and they responded 1 cup daily, but no one really knows and it is an inexact science.  Hope that this helps.

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Thanks.  Who is the largest mfg of Kim Chi in the US?

This amount (if true?) would be only if a person gets the flu correct? I was thinking of serving some several times a week once we self-quarantine.  We will be 8 people and 1 cup per day x 3-6 months is a LOT of Kim Chi.

Also - is there an effective difference between sauerkraut and Kimchi?  The effective ingrediants seem the same.  I will definitely stock up on Kim Chi but it seems to be avaialbe only by mail, 5 oz cans about $2 + shipping, while 32 oz organic sauerkraut is about $4 locally.  If it is not as good, then I will get KimChi ... but if it is, it would be an easier better buy.

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I was just wondering if any has verified this study about KimChi.  I was just thinking that it seems like a great way to sell KimChi world wide.  Certainly a good way to sell KimChi to me!

-Sheila

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Give me a break people!  Kim Chi!!!!!  It's cabbage and hot sauce.  Perhaps we should treat other viruses, like AIDS, with Ketchup and Canola oil.  There's plenty of acid in tomatoes.  Wow I thought I had seen it all.
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Isn't it slightly fremented?
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Start now eating it! Do not wait, you have to heal your digestive tack (atleast several times a week), but you can take it as soon as you become sick also (DAILY)!

This is why it helps: Acidification of small intestine promotes of growth of normal bacterial flora, thus alleviates inflammation in small intestine, promotes production of immunoglobulin (IgA). There are products like Lactic Acid yeast or Saccharomyces. Which will convert any sugar into lactic acid. Acidophilus needs lactose to convert it into lactic acid.

80% of your immune system starts with a healthy digestive track and correct flora! Unhealthy people have bad digestive tracks and also have inflammatory diseases, such as allergies and such!

This has been used for the H5N1 in chickens and they have been known to recover according to the farmers.

http://www.sauerkraut.com/news02.htm - this is the company that I contacted: GREAT People!

I have to run to the store. I will back to answer more questions.

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SUPERFOOD STRIKES AGAIN:
Scientists Find Kimchi Sauerkraut May Cure Avian Flu

A cure in a meal: U.S. Sauerkraut sales expected to skyrocket

Fremont, OH—October 18, 2005—In yet another indication that Sauerkraut is the super food of the 21st century, scientists at Seoul National University have successfully used Kimchi Sauerkraut to treat chickens infected with avian flu. Kimchi is a seasoned variety of sauerkraut that shares Lactobacillus bacteria with traditional Sauerkraut, which may be the critical element in preventing Avian Flu. Both Kimchi and traditional Sauerkraut are made by fermenting sliced cabbage, producing a high level of lactic acid.

According to an October 2005 BBC report, Kimchi was fed to 13 infected chickens and 11 of them started recovering within a week. South Korean Kimchi consumption is up as a result of this report and U.S. sales of Sauerkraut are also expected to spike up.

The October 14, 2005 issue of the Wall Street Journal cites growing U.S. concern over a potential avian flu pandemic based on the occurrence of birds found to carry the virus in Turkey, signaling the first instance of an outbreak outside of Asia. Fears of a U.S. pandemic were increased following the release of a study on the 1918-19 pandemic which originated in birds before mutating to a human strain and killing approximately 50 million people. Avian flu has been on the watch lists of the National Institute of Health and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases since 1997, with a recent surge in activity as drug makers race to find a cure and a vaccine. According to an October 17, 2005 story on the MSNBC/Newsweek website and carried on the NBC Nightly News, "Washington was turning its attention to the threat posed by an exceptionally lethal strain of flu virus that could, in the worst case, kill as many people in a few months as AIDS has done in two decades."

The November 2005 issue of Men's Health Magazine advises constructing a pandemic kit, including nonperishable foods: "Make a few of cans of the sauerkraut; it's packed with lactic-acid bacteria, shown by Korean researchers to speed recovery of chickens infected with avian flu."

"If you look at a 19th century Old Farmer's Almanac you'll find recipes for sauerkraut to treat virtually every ailment under the sun. Now in the 21st century it's been cited as having cancer fighting abilities and may be a cure for avian flu. It's truly one of the most unassuming super foods ever created. We expect to see sales go through the roof this Fall" says Chris Smith, VP of marketing for Frank's Sauerkraut, one of the United States' leading brands of Sauerkraut.

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About The Fremont Company
The Fremont Company is a 100 year old consumer food product company headquartered in Fremont, OH. The Fremont Company produces nationally distributed consumer and food service products including
Frank's and Snowfloss Kraut and Mississippi Barbeque Sauce. The Fremont Company maintains cross promotional relationships several major restaurant chains and is distributed in various ballparks and stadiums including Yankee Stadium. www.sauerkraut.com 

Contact: Steve Lundin slundin@bigfrontier.org (312) 602-2434

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