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    Posted: March 09 2016 at 7:14am

Below is an excerpt from Stanley Kubrick and Arthur C. Clarke's 2001 Space Odyssey. It is a bit lengthy and you might want to advance to the "bone scene" where after contact with the obelisk, the ape messing with bones pictures killing first an animal and then person with a bone. Later two groups of apes who before had not been violent or used weapons having seen each other start waving bones in the air. It finally happens - one ape kills the other ape and stands jumping up and down on the body with its new weapon. This in ways may be symbolic of Cain and Abel where the hunter slays the farmer - the replacement of hunting and gathering in the descent of man by domesticating animals and the coming of agriculture.  The point here is that people are still waving bones in the air and perhaps in time it may come to that final blow - how close are we to World War III?

http://www.amazon.com/2001-Space-Odyssey-Keir-Dullea/dp/B00005ASUM



It truly amazes me how our mainstream media can take stories and act like they are new. North Korea has been waving its bone in the air for years as well as Iran. Today I look blurry eyed at a headline "two long range ballistic missiles with the phrase "Israel must be wiped out" written in Hebrew on them.

Come on, this is not new.

How about "Emad" October 11, 2015




Not only has Iran been threatening to nuke Israel for years,  Kim Jong-Un has been threatening to nuke South Korea, and now the United States - i.e. Washington D.C. for a long time.  Is this more bone waving?  It is unlikely these are new capabilities. I covered the disappearance of most of the North Korean subs in the last big saber rattling by North Korea some time ago. Yes, they have subs but do they have anything close to the U.S. or the allies, or are they old tech vessels which are years from getting a nuke past U.S. defenses?

The problem is the U.S. has not been waving it's bone in the air lately as opposed to previous years under other leaders (forgive the male allusion here) symbolic appendages can rhetorically be used as exemplified by both sexes - look who is running for President. 

There has not be a lot of "shock and awe" lately and in the absence of jumping up and down and threats - the world crowd of rowdy beings are emboldened and fear nothing.

Personally, I do not want to see that ape hit the dirt if it is America and the bone is a nuclear weapon. It will not take a coordinated all out attack on U.S. to send shock waves erasing the smug sentiments of "it can't happen here."  9-11 did that. One nuke - one city - tens of thousands dead. 40,000 years plus radioactive. Be it Seoul - Jerusalem - or D.C. - even if the other country is vaporized - it will demonstrate the proliferation and use of the doomsday devices from a handful of moderately rational countries to terrorists. Would this advance lead to an advance in technology? No - and let's hope this is saber rattling. It could lead to a world war.

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Med, for a more complete story on the Iran-nuclear plans http://www.voltairenet.org/article190635.html

 1979, Israel completed the final adjustments to its atomic bomb, in collaboration with the apartheid régime of South Africa. The Hebrew state has never signed the Non-Proliferation Treaty, and has always avoided answering questions about its nuclear programme.

Every year since 1980, the United Nations General Assembly has adopted a consensual resolution to make the Near East a region free from all nuclear weapon. This resolution was aimed at encouraging Israel to give up its bomb and to ensure that other states would not enter into an arms race.

Under the Shah, Iran also had a military nuclear programme, but it was pursued only marginally after the revolution of 1979, because of the war started by Iraq (1980-88). However, it was only after the end of war that ayatollah Rouhollah Khomeini opposed weapons of mass destruction, and consequently prohibited the fabrication, possession and the use of atomic weapons.


Accusing President Ahmadinejad of «preparing the Apocalypse to hasten the return of the Mahdi» (sic), Israël launched an international Press campaign intended to isolate Iran. In reality, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad does not share the Jewish vision of an evil world which has to be destroyed and then rebuilt, but that of a progressive maturation of collective awareness until Parousia, the return of the Mahdi and the prophets. At the same time, Mossad busied itself with the assassination, one by one, of a number of Iranian nuclear scientists. From their side, the Western powers and the UN Security Council adopted ever more restrictive sanctions until they had completely isolated Iran at the economic and financial level. (DJ-remember the Stuxnet-virus etc.)


In November 2013, Saudi Arabia organised a secret summit which brought together members of the Gulf Cooperation Council and the friendly Muslim states [1]. In the presence of delegates from the UN General Secretariat, Israeli President Shimon Peres joined them by video-conference. The participants concluded that the danger was not the Israeli bomb, but the bomb that Iran might one day possess. The Saudis assured their interlocutors that they would take the necessary initiatives.

Military cooperation between Israel and Saudi Arabia is a new phenomenon, but the two countries have been working together since 2008, when Riyadh financed Israel’s punitive expedition in Gaza, known as «Operation Cast Lead» [2].

The 5+1 agreement was not made public until mid-2015. During the negotiations, Saudi Arabia multiplied its declarations that it would launch an arms race if the international community did not manage to force Iran to dismantle its nuclear programme [3].

On the 6th February 2015, President Obama published his new «National Security Strategy». He wrote - «Long-term stability [in the Middle East and North Africa] requires more than the use and presence of US military forces. It demands partners who are capable of defending themselves by themselves. This is why we invest in the capacity of Israel, Jordan and our Gulf partners to discourage aggression, while maintaining our unwavering support for the security of Israel, including the continued improvement of its military capacities» [4].

On the 25th March 2015, Saudi Arabia began its operation «Decisive Tempest» in Yemen, officially aimed at re-instating the Yemeni President, who had been overthrown by a popular revolution. In fact, the operation was the implementation of the secret agreement between Israel and Saudi Arabia for the exploitation of the Rub’al-Khali oil fields [5].


On the 26th March 2015, Adel Al-Jubeir, then the Saudi ambassador to the United States, refused to answer a question from CNN concerning the project for a Saudi atomic bomb.

On the 30th March 2015, a joint military Staff was set up by Israel in Somaliland, a non-recognised state. From the first day, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, the United Arab Emirates, Jordan, Morocco and Sudan participated under Israel command.

Two days later, on the 1st April 2015, during the Charm el-Cheick summit, the Arab League adopted the principle of a «Joint Arab Force» [6]. Officially, this was to implement the Arab Defence Treaty of 1950 to fight against terrorism. De facto, the League had validated the new Arab military alliance under Israeli command.


In May 2015, the Joint Arab Force, under Israeli command, used a tactical atomic bomb in Yemen. It may have been used in an attempt to penetrate an underground bunker.


On the 16th July 2015, intelligence specialist Duane Clarridge affirmed on Fox Business that Saudi Arabia had bought the atomic bomb from Pakistan.


On the 18th January 2016, Secretary of State John Kerry affirmed on CNN that atomic weaponry can not be bought and transferred. He warned Saudi Arabia that this would constitute a violation of the Non-Proliferation Treaty.


On the 15th February 2016, Saudi analyst Dahham Al-’Anzi affirmed in Arabic on Russia Today that his country has been in possession of an atomic weapon for two years, in order to protect Arabs, and that the major powers know this.


It is obviously unlikely that Saudi Arabia had built this kind of weapon itself, since it is absolutely bereft of scientific knowledge in the matter. On the other hand, it is possible that it bought the weapon from a state which has not signed the NPT, Israel or Pakistan. If we are to believe Duane Clarridge, it would have been Islamabad which sold its technology, but in this case, the weapon could not be a neutron bomb.

Since Saudi Arabia signed the Non-Proliferation Treaty (TNP), it did not have the right acquire the weapon, whether it be a tactical or a strategic bomb. But it would be enough for King Salman to declare that he bought the bomb in his own name to avoid being concerned by the Treaty. We know that the state of Saudi Arabia is the King’s private property, and that his budget only represents a part of the royal coffers. This would mean that we have entered a phase of the privatisation of nuclear weapons - a scenario which until now had been unthinkable. This evolution must be taken most seriously.

Finally, everything leads us to believe that the Saudis acted within the framework of US policy, but that they overstepped themselves by violating the NPT. By doing so, they have laid the foundation for a nuclearised Near East in which Iran could no longer play the role that Sheikh Rohani had hoped to recover, that of «regional police force» for the benefit of his Anglo-Saxon friends.

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So King Salman of Saudi Arabia now has his own private nuclear weapons. He can continu to sponsor IS and fight Iran. If you did think the North Korean story was bizar-this one is even more bizar ! But of course the other "friend of the West"Pakistan is involved !
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Originally posted by Dutch Josh Dutch Josh wrote:

So King Salman of Saudi Arabia now has his own private nuclear weapons. He can continue to sponsor IS and fight Iran. If you did think the North Korean story was bizarre-this one is even more bizarre ! But of course the other "friend of the West"Pakistan is involved !


Thank you Dutch. this gets more and more interesting. The Saudis have had a nuclear bomb for two years and it makes a lot more sense why Iran is moving to develop and put in place nuclear weapons. Perhaps there is a bomb in Iran with Israel's name on it, but the flash point for years has been Sunni versus Shiite - but first The Real News - you won't see this on mainstream media.

Published on Feb 19, 2016

Dahham Al-'Anzi of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia was discussing why many in the Arab world feel the need for Syrian President Bashar al-Assad

Dahham Al-'Anzi of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia was discussing why many in the Arab world feel the need for Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to be removed from power, and that a ground invasion was not only necessary, but is going to take place! In the context of the pending invasion, Dahham Al-'Anzi outlined the missiles, planes and other war-fighting equipment the Kingdom has acquired and then revealed "We have a nuclear bomb" and asked the TV Interviewer, "Why do you think we have all these weapons?" He then answered his own question "to protect Arabs and Muslims."


Over the last few weeks it has been like awakening from a fog. As I am now doing news on the net - it would appear not only the American public, but the world has been deceived by the media and propaganda put out for years on some very basic issues. The policy of non-proliferation of nuclear weapons has more been who is ignored as they develop them and who should be stopped. As of yet there has been no effective end or progress in either. One of my main thoughts in this is we fail to see a conflict which has been going on for more than 3,000 years. Kind David was born 1085 B.C. and the line of Solomon birth is approx. 1035-1033 B.C. when he first smote and killed Goliath of the Philistines (Palestine) the war continued which had begun with the invasion of what was to be Israel by what could have been the Hyksos race - who were "slaves" in Egypt. Yet the real conflict began with the coming of Mohammed and with the coming of the rift over the Imam's (direct descendant from Mohammed leadership) and elected rulers as in Sunni.

http://islam.about.com/cs/divisions/f/shia_sunni.htm

Probably some of the people involved in policy decisions should have gone beyond treaty meetings and gone out into the desert to meet with and learn to understand the Muslims. Few of our policy makers today have a clue what this is all about.  Ignorance of a faith that other faiths which are followed by billions of people - i.e . http://www.religioustolerance.org/isl_numb.htm - according to one census in 2013 there are more than 1.6 billion Muslims. You cannot ignore 1.6 billion people. If only 10% are radical and mobilized "Jihad"  that would be a substantial fighting force.

Yet the point here is that what ill will they may have and cries of them wanting to take over the world. It is a war between Sunni and Shia - http://www.pewforum.org/2011/01/27/future-of-the-global-muslim-population-sunni-and-shia/

now that the Saudi have nukes which are probably aimed at Iran across the Persian Gulf, consider America's and JFK thoughts of allowing missiles in Cuba.  Nuclear weapons are not going to spread, they have spread.  Daily the chance of a per-emptive nuclear warhead launched and detonated in the Middle East becomes more likely. We grow nearer to that first hit - like the bone to the skull of the world will ring out - not a shot but a nuclear blast heard around the world. There  will no longer be a nuclear threat. There will be a nuclear reality.

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