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    Posted: May 28 2016 at 12:57pm
http://www.wired.com/2015/11/colistin-last-report-antibiotic-drug-resistance/

Because colistin was so toxic, China never approved it for use in humans. So who used it? Pig farmers. Feeding pigs low doses of antibiotics fattens them—a practice common throughout the world, though usually with different antibiotics. 

China, the world’s largest pig producer, was the biggest consumer of the 12,000 tons of colistin used in farming each year.
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And there goes the antibiotic of last resort. Thanks China - again.


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no one nation is guilty ,

all are ,

 all farmers know that the beasts get a 3rd heavier if fed antibiotics.......

been coming since Flemming.......
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Fixed it for you Wink

Originally posted by carbon20 carbon20 wrote:


been coming since Flemming.......warned about it


This is sad - my mother was a TB nurse during/after WWII, and although she did not talk much about her up-bring and early days, I do remember one comment on how wonderful it was to be able to treat people that just a few years before would have died.  It is sad that my children will remember the opposite - a time when a few years before people would live but now little choice.
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Originally posted by carbon20 carbon20 wrote:

no one nation is guilty ,

all are ,

 all farmers know that the beasts get a 3rd heavier if fed antibiotics.......

been coming since Flemming.......

This is true, but China seems to be more lawless in agriculture than we in the west.  Remember their melamine in dairy scandal?  

12,000 tons per year.  My God!!  

"We dig our graves with our mouths" is certainly true!!


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While it's true that large scale agribusiness discovered the financial benefits of dosing with antibiotics long ago, China has taken it one step further and put us all at risk with their state sactioned overuse of prophylactic pharmaceuticals. They were responsible for making amantadine ineffective by routinely giving it to poultry in their water. That was a far more effective antiviral than Tamiflu ever was, and Chinese agriculture took it from us in much the same way they most likely have with colostin.

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