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 Topic: November 2023Posted: November 02 2023 at 2:30am |
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Replying to @janemerrick23 If that is how "politicians" deal with public health there is no hope..."bojo" still not in prison...he may even return as next UK-PM.... link; [url]https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/oct/30/boris-johnson-mad-if-he-did-not-think-whatsapps-would-become-public-civil-servant?CMP=share_btn_tw[/url] or https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/oct/30/boris-johnson-mad-if-he-did-not-think-whatsapps-would-become-public-civil-servant?CMP=share_btn_tw ; Boris Johnson asked why damage was being inflicted on the economy during the pandemic “for people who will die anyway soon” in a meeting with Rishi Sunak, the Covid inquiry was told on Monday. At the start of what is set to be a bruising week for the former prime minister, with former political aides and senior civil servants to give evidence on his government’s handling of the pandemic, the diary of a former private secretary revealed the damaging remarks made in March 2020. The note was from a meeting during which Johnson was believed to have said: “We’re killing the patient to tackle the tumour. Large ppl [taken to mean large numbers of people] who will die, why are we destroying economy for people who will die anyway soon.” Imran Shafi, the official who wrote the memo, told the inquiry he thought it was Johnson who made the comments. It came after a series of diary entries and WhatsApp messages suggested the low regard in which the former Tory leader was held by senior advisers. Whitehall’s highest ranking civil servant, Simon Case, complained that Johnson “cannot lead” and wanted to “let it rip” when it came to making crucial choices over how the UK should handle Covid-19, the UK inquiry into the pandemic heard. The WhatsApp message was sent to Dominic Cummings, at the time Johnson’s chief adviser, by the cabinet secretary, who confided in the midst of an oscillating government response to the pandemic: “I am at the end of my tether.” “He changes strategic direction every day (Monday we were all about fear of virus returning as per Europe, March etc – today we’re in ‘let it rip’ mode cos [sic] the UK is pathetic, needs a cold shower etc.)” added Case, who is due to appear as a witness at the Inquiry at a later date. DJ...a lot of countries hardly did any better..."CoViD is over" insanity now simply is ignoring an unfolding healthcrisis... The west has a generation of lunatics in power. Genocide by pandemic, climate collapse or war seems to be a "policy"....A major problem in many countries-most political parties go for the same agenda... |
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Very limited inf on how CoViD (not over !) is spreading; [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-luxembourg-starts-to-see-new-rise-in-covid-19-infections-with-covid-19-test-positivity-rates-now-at-23-percent[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-luxembourg-starts-to-see-new-rise-in-covid-19-infections-with-covid-19-test-positivity-rates-now-at-23-percent and DJ, if a country does bring new info the limited "media" all jump on it... and Replying to @CoronaHeadsUp link [url]https://twitter.com/CoronaHeadsUp/status/1720178334028509419/photo/1[/url] or https://twitter.com/CoronaHeadsUp/status/1720178334028509419/photo/1 DJ-Since the level of testing is almost zero claiming BA.2.86 in any form may be of limited value...a lot of CoViD-cases are missed...and one may hope most of those cases are mild... However high level of spread in both human and non-human hosts-in part with increase of (vaccine) immunity will result in new variants...CoViD may by now have seen over 1 million sub-variants ? YES, BA.2.86 may be a high risk variant...but at least it may be detectable...Potential even higher risks may be in variants not yet detected... -------- In UK public hearings UK-PM "bojo" did believe CoViD only killed those of limited value to society...The US -2020- did see trump saying crazy things on CoViD...Here in NL we had "mark rutte" saving the economy...The best top three prepared for a pandemic -2019 claim- US-UK-NL did show they do not care about human lives... For "western politics" in general money matters, NOT lives.... Another "understanding" may be needed; YES a virus can not kill all its hosts if the virus wants to survive...CoViD however does NOT need human hosts any longer...it may have-by now- found that many non human hosts that -from the virus "point of view" may kill all human hosts... Even lots of experts may miss the big picture...CoViD still may become a major killer for humanity...killing billions of humans ! Decrease of immunity may open "chances" for lots of other infectious diseases/co-infections...Health-historians may be divided on lots of things...but history did see several pandemics (almost) ending civilizations... The main reason "people do not learn from history" is they do not want to learn from history... |
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[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/these-are-top-middle-east-exports-country[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/these-are-top-middle-east-exports-country proberbly one of the best sources of information on the ongoing CoViD pandemic; indie_SAGE 03.11.2023LIVE: Join us for a discussion on long covid, vaccines and variants, with guests Ryan Hisner & Alexandra Tabachnikova, hosted by Prof Sheena Cruickshank, Prof Steve Griffin & Prof Aris Katzourakis, and numbers by Dr Kit Yates DJ, Alexandra Tabachnikova/Yale (AT/Y) both on Long CoViD detectable in the blood; B/T cell "exhaustion" and (like with ME-CFS) low cortisol...Both (further) indication for chronic infection Ryan Hisner/RH also on how different XBB is from BA.2.86...If you catch CoViD from one variant "natural immunity" against other variants will be very limited...because there is that much diversity in CoViD variants... AT/Y also on a US study on "nasal vaccines" against CoViD that might be both sterilizing -so STOPPING infection ! and "multi-variant" effective to lots of Corona variants... RH, mutationlevel of CoViD may still be twice that of H3N2 flu... DJ-In the introduction also how indie_SAGE participated in the UK investigation on pandemic policies. IF the UK would have followed the South Korea example it could have prevented up to 150,000 of the 228,000 UK covid deaths... But, "politics" not only ignoring/insulting Long CoViD (patients) but also "saving profits" claim CoViD is over... [url]https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps[/url] or https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps a look at excess deaths for age groups 0-14 and 15-44 y/o is showing excess deaths STILL ON PANDEMIC LEVEL !!!! Also-maybe vaccines were not perfect-most of excess deaths are in the unvaccinated age groups ! In the UK only 50% of those that can get a CoViD-vaccine do get one...While lots of indications/studies point to; -Vaccines reduce severe illness -reduce chances for Long CoViD -Even if you have Long CoViD you still may see some benefit of the vaccine... In the first -pre-vaccine- phase of the pandemic chances of catching Long CoVid was high (between 15 and 25% of tested cases ????) ...The chance of getting long CoViD may have reduced because of (vaccine) immunity but since CoViD now is that widespread still a high number of people catch "LC".... And 20% of Long CoViD cases are that ill they have to stop their job....Care only now -in many countries- dealing with LC-cases that do recover...NO plan for those with years of health issues... ----------- Another -very major- aspect is CoViD spread outside humans... [url]https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/11/two-eid-journal-dispatches-on-h5n1-in.html[/url] or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/11/two-eid-journal-dispatches-on-h5n1-in.html ; The interconnected and often overlapping network of flyways for migratory birds depicted above has allowed the HPAI H5 virus to spread - albeit slowly and tentatively at first - from Southern China 20 years ago, first to Southeast Asia, Europe and the Middle East, and most recently to North and South America.
As the virus expands geographically, it increases its opportunities to encounter, and reassort with, other influenza A viruses. Most of these hybrids fall by the wayside, unable to compete with more biologically `fit' strains, but occasionally nature produces a `better virus'. - While other clades still exist (most notably clade 2.3.2.1c in Cambodia). clade 2.3.4.4x has dominated since it underwent a major reassortment over the summer of 2016, prior to sparking Europe's largest avian epizootic on record. Since then clade 2.3.4.4x has undergone several more major reassortments, producing an avian H5 virus that has spread faster, and farther, than we've ever seen before. It has also increased its host range (both avian and mammalian), and continues to evolve in unpredictable ways. - The HPAI H5N1 viruses detected during the mass death of birds on Maliy Zhemchuzhniy Island evolved from sequential reassortment of multiple genetic variants of LPAI and HPAI viruses (Appendix 1 Figures 3–9). The new variants probably acquired M and HA gene segments from viruses (Egyptian-like) detected in Siberia and Kazakhstan in 2020 (15).
- In a 1-year survey of wild terrestrial predators in northern Germany, we found that 5 of 110 foxes were infected with contemporary avian influenza A(H5N1) viruses, forming a temporal cluster during January‒March 2023. Encephalitis and strong cerebral virus replication but only sporadic mammalian-adaptive viral polymerase basic 2 protein E627K mutations were seen. - The virus has been found at increasing frequency in domestic and wild living mammals, mostly affecting carnivorous species (4) and massive die-off events raised concern about potential mammal-to-mammal transmission in dense populations (5,6). HPAIV infections were regularly characterized by high viral loads in the brain and associated clinical signs of the central nervous system with corresponding morphologic changes (7–11). Although Germany has had high HPAIV infection rates in avian species, prevalence studies on HPAIV infections in terrestrial predators, which feed on (infected) waterfowl, are not available. We performed a 1 year-survey to detect HPAIV in wild terrestrial predators in northern Germany. - Ten of 14 HPAIV H5N1-positive wild carnivores detected in the Netherlands carried the mammal-adaptive variant (10,11), and those viruses replicated to higher titers in mammalian cells than in an avian cell line (10). In our study, only 1 of 4 four analyzed cases had the E627K substitution. Those results support previous observations that PB2 627K is not a prerequisite for virus replication in mammalian cells (10). - While the future course and impact of HPAI H5 is unknowable, over the past couple of years we've obviously entered a new evolutionary phase of the virus. We should be prepared for more surprises ahead. DJ...So H5N1 might be -in some variants- be developing to spread even better in mammals than in birds... The number of H5N1 (H% in general) variants is "increasing" (exploding ?) Co-infection with a H1/H2/H3 type of flu may result in a high risk flu-type for humans... DJ-Maybe a "historical note"...the main reason the "Spanish Flu" 1917-1923 could kill maybe up to 100 million people was "for military reasons" the virus was not stopped...The H1N1-"Spanish Flu" may not even have been a very high risk type of flu ! The problem is it got all the room to spread in hosts with less immunity because of the war and food crisis linked to it... ----------- DJ, Present "politics"did fail en keeps failing in protecting public health ! Present "political insanity" is doing all it can to get not only CoViD restarted but also to create and increase further pandemic risks... We urgently need to reduce eating meat/keeping all kinds of farm-animals...Minks may be very high risk, but poultry to pigs -on this level- from a pandemic point of view is insane.... Of course "climate collapse" should be top priority [url]https://nos.nl/artikel/2496326-vn-honderden-miljarden-extra-nodig-voor-aanpassingen-aan-veranderend-klimaat[/url] or https://nos.nl/artikel/2496326-vn-honderden-miljarden-extra-nodig-voor-aanpassingen-aan-veranderend-klimaat ...governments fail to invest trillions of €/$ in solutions... Air polution is another major health risk-worsening pandemic risks... Stress, interest going up, job related stress, also does worsen perspectives... But ventilation, a right to work/study from home already seems asking to much... So...do we need an even worse healthcrisis before we get "better politics"...it looks that way ! |
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[url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-covid-19-news-latest-robert-koch-institute-report-shows-that-about-7-1-million-germans-are-sick-due-to-a-variety-of-respiratory-infections[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-covid-19-news-latest-robert-koch-institute-report-shows-that-about-7-1-million-germans-are-sick-due-to-a-variety-of-respiratory-infections DJ-further links in the above TMN link; Early november 23 does see 8,5% of German population with some form of respitory illness...Mid-december '22 it was over 11%...The RKI statistics has 23% of the ill with CoViD, 22% with Rhino-virus...Flu also increasing.. Age 15-34 and 60+ may have more (severe ?) cases...[url]https://edoc.rki.de/bitstream/handle/176904/11327/ARE_Wochenbericht_KW43_2023.pdf[/url] or https://edoc.rki.de/bitstream/handle/176904/11327/ARE_Wochenbericht_KW43_2023.pdf may give (another/more) perspectives on the German data... [url]https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps[/url] or https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps also has low excess deaths in Germany for week 44... DJ-Without proper testing you do end up with "general statistics"...waste water indications etc... see also [url]https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/998107?form=fpf[/url] or https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/998107?form=fpf ; People infected multiple times with COVID-19 are more likely to develop long COVID, and most never fully recover from the condition. Those are two of the most striking findings of a comprehensive new 3-year research study of 138,000 veterans. Lead researcher Ziyad Al-Aly, MD, chief of research at Veterans Affairs St. Louis Health Care and clinical epidemiologist at Washington University in St. Louis, spoke with Medscape about his team's findings, what we know — and don't — about long COVID, and what it means for physicians treating patients with the condition. DJ, there is no clear definition on what "Long CoViD" is; some go for limited health issues 4 weeks after testing positive...others go for 3-6 months or 1 year after a positive test or likely infection...So with no clear definition on "Long CoViD" it may be hard to compare it with post-viral flu disease...Some indications may go for 10 to 30 times MORE chance of developing long CoViD than "longer term flu health issues"... and DJ see also [url]https://twitter.com/greg_travis/status/1715788045948002550/photo/1[/url] or https://twitter.com/greg_travis/status/1715788045948002550/photo/1 Also [url]https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps[/url] or https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps has higher than normal excess deaths in the >45 Y/o age group-often not vaccinated... see [url]https://twitter.com/SolidEvidence/status/1720853525289107880/photo/1[/url] or https://twitter.com/SolidEvidence/status/1720853525289107880/photo/1 CoViD has now that many variants-immunity after catching "one type" may not offer much immunity against re/co-infection with another type...a.o. resulting in an increase of recombinations... CoViD must be widespread in non-human hosts...resulting in even more "new" variants... --------- [url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/strange-coincidence-hong-kong-flu-re-emerges-from-1968-in-far-eastern-russia[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/strange-coincidence-hong-kong-flu-re-emerges-from-1968-in-far-eastern-russia I did not find any further info yet... ---- Bigger picture [url]https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/11/bmj-global-historical-trends.html[/url] or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/11/bmj-global-historical-trends.html ; Twelve years, and more than 12,000 blog entries ago, I wrote a piece called The Third Epidemiological Transition, based on the works of the now late (May 22, 1936 - May 15, 2014) anthropologist and researcher George Armelagos of Emory University. The gist of his theory - which he first published in the mid-1990s - was that since the mid-1970s the world had entered into an age of newly emerging infectious diseases, re-emerging diseases and a rise in antimicrobial resistant pathogens. Since I penned that blog we've seen the emergence of MERS-CoV from camels in the Middle East, the rise of new avian H7N9, H5N6, H3N8, and H10Nx viruses in China , an unprecedented Ebola outbreak in Western Africa, the largest outbreak of human H5N1 on record (in Egypt), and the sudden and rapid spread of Chikungunya and Zika into the Americas, the international spread of Mpox, a severe and prolonged coronavirus pandemic - and since 2021 - the massive spread and frequent spillover of a new H5N1 virus into mammals. DJ, diseases have a background...more hosts (=more meat consumption) climate collapse, more urban population, more travel ALL increase pandemic risks... The "good part" of this is it provides us with tools to limit risks...the "bad part" we are not doing that... |
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DJ-media spread a lot of dis-info on many crises because a lot of "experts for sale" spread a lot of dis-info on many crises....Fairytales always were more popular than facts... -[url]https://twitter.com/RageSheen/status/1723109754149687739[/url] or https://twitter.com/RageSheen/status/1723109754149687739 for the rest... That’s what ‘living with’ has historically meant. Enduring something, while trying to prevent, control and treat. But the ‘living with’ slogan for Covid means something fundamentally and historically different. It means to do nothing. Just infect, repeatedly. /3 - It’s not a fight against the disease, it’s a fight against public health itself. Funded by the same vested interests who have been assaulting everything with ‘public’ in its name or with a public focus. It’s an assault upon the concept of the public itself. /4 - And again, no matter how much these vested interests deny it, this is also an open, declared campaign. And has been for over 70 years. It’s right there, ‘personal responsibility’ to replace anything public. Never before has this lunacy extended to disease. But it does now. /5 - DJ, like in climate change "populism" is going for votes NOT facts...the bill only further increasing.... O, yes...and of course "Putin-stopping NATO moving east-" is "bad"...worth trillions of tax payer/fiat money pooring into a war industry...If you have some questions "pro-Putin" is end of any critical questions... -------- [url]https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/10/how-bad-is-gazas-disease-outbreak-amid-the-israel-war?traffic_source=rss[/url] or https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/10/how-bad-is-gazas-disease-outbreak-amid-the-israel-war?traffic_source=rss ; As thousands of Palestinians try to find space in Gaza’s shelters or move south for safety from Israeli bombardment, infectious diseases are sweeping across the besieged enclave, according to a World Health Organization (WHO) report. Infectious maladies such as diarrhoea and chickenpox are soaring in Gaza, the WHO reported on Wednesday, while medical organisations have been warning of the risk of cholera and epidemics. DJ, netanyahu/NATO did find an answer-bomb the hospitals ! - - - DJ...the same "political criminals" denying both climate change and the ongoing pandemic have been destroying countries with decent basic public healthcare...Iraq, Libya, Syria all had some sort of basic public healthcare-like the former "Soviet-bloc"... The "market-dogma" -privatize everything is destroying everything... ----------- Limited testing-lots of CoViD and other viral disease spread is missed..."to save the economy=profits"... - |
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[url]https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/covid-crisis-new-wave-spreading-across-wa-could-disrupt-christmas-with-pirola-variant-a-particular-worry--c-12528869[/url] or https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/covid-crisis-new-wave-spreading-across-wa-could-disrupt-christmas-with-pirola-variant-a-particular-worry--c-12528869 DJ..."CoViD disrupting christmas"...as if that would be the biggest problem... As the eighth COVID-19 wave sweeps across the nation, WA cases have steadily risen from 212 in mid-October to 466 in the first week of November. The seven-day average for hospital admissions has also jumped 14 per cent. More than 6500 new cases were reported in Australia in the last week of October. - a link [url]https://thewest.com.au/news/coronavirus/covid-crisis-authorities-accused-of-dropping-the-ball-on-covid-and-creating-future-chronic-illness-burden-c-12459711[/url] or https://thewest.com.au/news/coronavirus/covid-crisis-authorities-accused-of-dropping-the-ball-on-covid-and-creating-future-chronic-illness-burden-c-12459711 (with lots of info now behind paywalls...censorship in another way...) DJ "authorities accused of dropping the ball"...that is a friendly way to describe total healthcare crime killing millions worldwide..."dropping the ball".. It also is missing "politics" saving "the economy/profits" and ignoring all kind of expert warnings...Like "politics-for-sale" fail to deal in any serious way with climate collapse..Like "politics" ignored warnings on "foreign policy decissions"...resulting in massive wars... - DJ...if we do not even learn a thing from recent history...if "we" keep making bad decissions-hoping this time it will not go wrong-is there ANY point in science ? Should we ask three your old children to become "our leaders" because they may show more brains and less corruption ? Should we make a gorilla US president because (s)he would do better than the ones that end up in the position in the last decades ? Why send children to school ? Why invest in healthcare...if at the end we do ALL WE CAN to GET MORE DISEASES ! The psychiatric handbook DSM-5 still is seeing "what most people do" as "normal"...humans are self destructive...but that "is the norm".... - Insanity as a "new normal" ... |
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DJ, My view on the [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu#Epidemiology_and_pathology[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu#Epidemiology_and_pathology ; The basic reproduction number of the virus was between 2 and 3.[193] The close quarters and massive troop movements of World War I hastened the pandemic, and probably both increased transmission and augmented mutation. The war may also have reduced people's resistance to the virus. Some speculate the soldiers' immune systems were weakened by malnourishment, as well as the stresses of combat and chemical attacks, increasing their susceptibility.[194][195] A large factor in the worldwide occurrence of the flu was increased travel. Modern transportation systems made it easier for soldiers, sailors, and civilian travelers to spread the disease.[196] Another was lies and denial by governments, leaving the population ill-prepared to handle the outbreaks.[197] The severity of the second wave has been attributed to the circumstances of the First World War.[198] In civilian life, natural selection favors a mild strain. Those who get very ill stay home, and those mildly ill continue with their lives, preferentially spreading the mild strain. In the trenches, natural selection was reversed. Soldiers with a mild strain stayed where they were, while the severely ill were sent on crowded trains to crowded field hospitals, spreading the deadlier virus. The second wave began, and the flu quickly spread around the world again. Consequently, during modern pandemics, health officials look for deadlier strains of a virus when it reaches places with social upheaval.[199] The fact that most of those who recovered from first-wave infections had become immune showed that it must have been the same strain of flu. This was most dramatically illustrated in Copenhagen, which escaped with a combined mortality rate of just 0.29% (0.02% in the first wave and 0.27% in the second wave) because of exposure to the less-lethal first wave.[200] For the rest of the population, the second wave was far more deadly; the most vulnerable people were those like the soldiers in the trenches – adults who were young and fit.[201] conditions, background, play a very major role in lots of pandemics... DJ, the basic idea of "creating natural immunity by not stopping CoViD-infections" is insane.... It will bring even more variants of CoViD better in evading immunity to even more hosts (human and non human) ! DJ... -A virus may bring milder disease if it is running out of hosts...CoViD is NOT running out of hosts... in fact it should be a very major worry that CoViD may be widespread in non-human hosts...The virus "does not need human hosts" any longer for its reproduction...So it may kill more (all ?) human hosts... -A virus "will run out of mutations"...wishfull thinking...There may be by now over 1 million variants of CoVid...mutations, recombinations, may bring millions more...Some sorts of SARS-2 differ more from each other than SARS-1 differs from SARS-2... -SARS-1 was contained in time in 2003...Why we failed to contain SARS-2 in 2019 is kept out of the discussion..."lab-leak" blame games and crazy discussions on how to stop the virus did get all the room... -DJ-If some "idiots" even claim centuries old practices like masks do not work there is no use for science...."flat earth crazies" run the "discussion/show of madness"... So...what will be next ? DJ-I expect CoViD-pandemic part 2....Vaccines and Non Pharma Interventions (limiting contacts, travel, exposure) may have resulted in a "pandemic pause",,,That "pause" may now be over... Worldwide healthcare is now in worse shape than it was in 2019/2020... The people have lost any trust in "experts/political liars"... CoViD and other infections may have resulted in widespread decrease of immunity So...M(onky)Pox may have come as a surprise...expect more surprises... H5N1 in lots of species may recombine with a H1/H2/H3 high risk-for humans- flu virus, there are lots of other corona-virusses around...Lots of other diseases are "waiting for a chance" to "jump on humans"...And we keep doing the best we can to give them all the oppertunity to spread... -International travel at pre-pandemic levels -Cruise ships have their first new outbreaks -NO TESTING ! NO SURVEILANCE ! As long as our "leaders" are not only not willing to learn from very recent history but actively deny that history "to save the economy=profits" get ready for a far worse CoViD pandemic part 2.... ------- Climate collapse gives a good indication on how "politics" ends up making climate "change" only worse....In parallel "politics" "living with this virus" create the perfect conditions for the coming -far worse- part 2... We are run by "leaders" that in fact may be sociopaths...blinded by their own belief in being "great"...always knowing better than science...Ignoring they get paid by profit seeking companies that "donate" to their election campains... [url]https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/[/url] or https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/ Week 43, NL, Germany low excess deaths, Israel "moderate" excess deaths (+4-7%).. Statistics also showing unvaccinated age groups still at pandemic excess deaths level (0-44 y/o) ... [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-finland-grapples-with-soaring-covid-19-cases-and-emerging-variants[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-finland-grapples-with-soaring-covid-19-cases-and-emerging-variants DJ-CoViD is not very popular in the infotainment pseude "news"...bad for advertising... With some "experts" ; DJ...genocide by pandemic as a "strategy" -insanity ? |
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[url]https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/11/netherlands-reinstates-nationwide.html[/url] or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/11/netherlands-reinstates-nationwide.html ; Netherlands Reinstates Nationwide Poultry Lockdown Following Two H5N1 Outbreaks- While the risks of pet owners contracting avian flu from their cat (or dog) remains low, it is not zero. The CDC maintains a website for pet owners which has the following advice.
DJ, Spread of H5N1 from birds into mammals must be wide...with increasing risks of co-infections with (H1,H2,H3) flu-virus that are far more of risk for humans... The Netherlands also dealing with a very major BTV-Blue Tongue Virus most in sheep -over 4,000 farms affected...spread to Kent-UK linked to NL ? ------ Gosh—Did something happen starting around 2020-2023? “There are more Americans who say they have serious cognitive problems — with remembering, concentrating or making decisions — than at any time in the last 15 years, data from the Census Bureau shows. The increase started with the pandemic: The number of working-age adults reporting “serious difficulty” thinking has climbed by an estimated one million people. #LongCovid #CovidIsNotOver https://nytimes.com/2023/11/13/upshot/long-covid-disability.html In the US part of the problem -in serious cognitive problems- might be age related...However part will be linked with Long/Chronic CoViD...certainly in younger age groups... and DJ, Here in NL 60+ and vulnerable people can get a (new) booster...international coordination seems to be missing...The WHO made it clear; The CoViD pandemic is NOT over ! However it is no longer an EMERGING -new- disease...Public Health EMERGENCY of International Concern PHEIC... Both "media", "politics" and even some "experts" do not notice the difference between an ongoing pandemic and a PHEIC... - Replying to DJ, By now statistics give VERY CLEAR indications CoViD-vaccines limit disease... Replying to Going for "natural immunity" via CoViD-infection might be "fire protection by burning the house down"-stupid ! DJ, Men do have more ACE-2 receptors so CoViD is able to spread/infect better...Overweight men may be even more at risk... More wars mean less health care capacity for CoViD, less money for public healthcare, more climate destruction and more profits for shareholders in the war-industry & banks... |
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Posted: November 16 2023 at 10:38pm |
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DJ, The main story is on war. Further escalation of conflicts may bring us to a "level of war" unseen in history. Even non-nuclear major global war can destroy us all. Climate collapse is already decreasing food production and logistics on a global scale. In NW Europe to much rain did flood land, destroy harvests. Flooded (rail)roads do limit transport. On health/CoViD; DJ, "Health news" since the pandemic is "bad for advertising" -CoViD is supposed to be over/pandemic fatigue... And the picture is far more complex...lots of diseases-not "only CoViD"... And even CoViD itself by now has become very complex...lots of variants spreading now. Non-human spread resulting in even more new variants... [url]https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps[/url] or https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps with map for week 44 showing "moderate" excess deaths (+4-7% above "normal") in Finland and Israel. For Israel war will be part of the reasons...NL, Germany, DK (DenmarK), Sweden low excess deaths (+2-4%) very likely related to a mix of diseases. Unvaccinated against CoViD (and often flu) age groups see excess deaths still at pandemic level. and DJ, underlining lots of diseases now spreading...Very likely once you did catch one disease co-infection risk go up... So France may see increase of CoViD cases/variants AND increase of meningitis...very likely inter-linked... DJ, so far only one case detected in the UK. In NL over 5000 farms did see bluetongue virus disease in several kinds of animals (most sheep). Ventilation helps to lower viral loads ! | |
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Posted: November 18 2023 at 10:00pm |
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Another very good, very welcome video from indie_SAGE [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co9n7SNccNI&t=1187s[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co9n7SNccNI&t=1187s ; LIVE: Join us for a session on clinical vulnerability & Covid, with guests Sarah Steven, Prof Martin Paul Eve & Dr Mark Yates, session led by Dr Lennard Lee & Dr Zubaida Haque, and numbers by Prof Christina Pagel -  Chapters 00:45 Intro: Dr Zubaida Haque 02:59 Stats: Prof Christina Pagel 17:10 Vulnerable: Zubaida 18:17 Dr Lennard Lee 19:56 Is data necessary? Dr Mark Yates, research Scientist, Kings College London 21:18 What is the Inform Study? 23:27 Reaction to the data by CEV? Prof Martin Paul Eve, Prof of Literature, Birkbeck London University 25:47 What can you (CEV) do and not do? 27:59 Another personal experience: Sarah Steven, Rep. Clinically Vulnerable Families 29:41 Role as a patient champion 33:29 What have you learned from the Covid Inquiry? 39:28 Questions from the public 39:42 Has anything changed about the virus to mean it's less dangerous for the CEV? 47:15 What if a worse variant appeared? How would it affect those who've not yet been infected? 50:35 Is there any data about how much Covid is missed by using LFT, & what does that mean for missing Long Covid? 53:42 Going for surgery hospital refuses to practice mitigating measures. Any suggestions? 56:46 Close Final briefing: 2023-12-01 DJ, Latest UK statistics simply pretty depressing and in line with lots of other info; -Excess deaths in unvaccinated age groups still at pandemic level -Waitinglists for hospital/ambulance increasing and far above the norm... With these statistics being from early november we may see yet another health care crisis. Flu numbers still are low... A.o. Sweden, Finland see increase in cases...new variants showing up... Lateral flow -DIY- at home testing 20% less effective than PCR...Also asymptomatic initial infection may further spread the virus and can result still in long CoViD later on. The more vulnerable are at much higher risk for severe disease or death... DJ-It seems this is a "new normal" everyone accepts ? Reminds me of lots of extreme weather...flooding in NW Europe, extreme heat in Brazil etc. etc. etc. and "the climate discussion" simply ignoring those facts... We are getting very close to socio-economic collapse, high risk of hyperinflation...In Gaza israel is committing mass murder...killing hundreds of innocent civilians per day with US/NATO weapons... Have we gone completely mad ???? Again... the pandemic is not over !!!! Can we do worse ? Sure-no problem ! DJ- I hate to put it this way-we are killing ourselves high speed....The number of acts of total stupidity is that high we all may be gone before 2030.... I did see an article of a holocaust survivor telling schoolchildren of the horrors..."there is no point" somehow people seem unable to understand history.... Crazy is the new normal...good luck with that ! |
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DJ, I would love to see the CoViD-pandemic is over...I am NOT any kind of expert...just trying to get some realistic view and share it... DJ...the basic story, known from decades...CoViD in animals only controlled by killing all animals in the affected farm...But "saving profits/economy" goes above saving humanity... Because CoViD KILLS !!!! In many ways ! And it does NOT NEED humans to survive as a virus...lots of other hosts...Ideas of "becoming milder" "self containment" so far are "wishfull -lack of-thinking"....A bit like "we just have new solar panels on our house so the wildfire will spare it"... and DJ, CoViD opened the doors to lots of other infections. "Living with CoViD is dying from it"....just a matter of time...But there are lots of ways people may die in high numbers; wars and climate collapse does indeed mean people NOT die from CoViD related disease... So is that the strategy "To prevent people dying from a disease we murder them ?"...Crazy ! - and - DJ [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%8Ele-de-France[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%8Ele-de-France ; The Île-de-France (/ˌiːl də ˈfrɒ̃s/, French: [il də fʁɑ̃s] ⓘ; literally "Isle of France") is the most populous of the eighteen regions of France, with an official estimated population of 12,271,794 residents on 1 January 2023 The Paris region... So are we allready at the start of the newest CoViD wave ? Will TB spread as a co-infection ? TB-in a multi resistent form- was a problem in pre-war Ukraine...(now on its way to starvation/famine...) |
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Posted: November 21 2023 at 12:38am |
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More than halve of my last post went missing, so a retry/part 2 -[url]https://twitter.com/CoronaHeadsUp/status/1726698775161512223/photo/1[/url] or https://twitter.com/CoronaHeadsUp/status/1726698775161512223/photo/1 Sweden waste water CoViD levels "extreme" by far the worst so far in this ongoing pandemic...But "at least they are testing wastewater".... -So TWENTY...20 samples from Germany....The "variant dynamics" "waste water sampling" hospital/excess deaths ALL indicate CoViD is a massive problem...it is simply ignored... Link; [url]https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/20/uk-covid-inquiry-latest-patrick-vallance-live/[/url] or https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/20/uk-covid-inquiry-latest-patrick-vallance-live/ ; Rishi Sunak thought the Government should “just let people die” as arguments raged over a second lockdown, the Covid Inquiry was told. Sir Patrick Vallance, the then chief scientific adviser, made a note in his diary on Oct 25 2020 about a meeting in which Boris Johnson argued for “letting it all rip” and Mr Sunak, who was chancellor at the time, agreed, according to the entry. Dominic Cummings, Mr Johnson’s chief adviser until Nov 2020, told the Oct 25 meeting: “Rishi thinks just let people die and that’s OK.” Sir Patrick said he did not personally hear Mr Sunak express such an opinion, but told the Inquiry: “That’s what Dominic Cummings said.” It represents the most serious accusation levelled at Mr Sunak, now Prime Minister, at the inquiry to date. DJ, genocide by pandemic to save profits "economy".... NO !!! CoViD is NOT; -running out of variants -out of hosts -getting milder -a virus to live with... Risks of long term health issues from CoViD is much higher than that of flu...Each CoViD infection does increase that risk. Living with CoViD is dying from it...unless wars, climate collapse stops you from dying from CoViD linked diseases (see Suicene). |
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and Update on classification of #SARSCoV2 BA.2.86 and sublineages (incl JN.1) as a variant of interest (previously listed as VUM) Risk Evaluation from WHO & TAG-VE available here: https://who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/21112023_ba.2.86_ire.pdf?sfvrsn=8876def1_3… From our main SARS-CoV-2 variant tracking page: https://who.int/activities/tra DJ BA.2.86 next step VoC Variant of Concern...That would underline the WHO view of the CoViD-pandemic NOT being over ! You said 'around 3,000 or so' sequences around the world. There are already touching 4,400 sequences. The number stated in the WHO initial risk evaluation is 3,267 as of 20th November, which you were likely referencing. However, the front page of GISAID shows it was already higher than that (3,396) by the morning of 17th November. One of many major problems remains testing and reporting...De-funding sequencing also does NOT help ! Wastewater statistics may need to be related to testing in humans (could waste water testing find non-human CoViD virus parts ?) H5N1 DJ, Furfarms a.o. in Finland also see lots of H5N1 spread in (fur) animals...Very likely several variants of H5N1 may be jumping from birds to mammals and back...only increasing risks... ------- - - 3) Some school classes have even been canceled completely. Not only are all students sick, but teachers are also infected with pneumonia. ... Mr. [W], a Beijing citizen: "Now you are not allowed to report to school. If you have any symptoms such as fever, cold, cough and then you are hospitalized” - 4) “It is too early to project whether this could be another pandemic but as a wise influenza virologist once said to me "The pandemic clock is ticking, we just do not know what time it is."” - 5) Also of note- Beijing and Liaoning are 800 km apart!! This epidemic isn’t localized anymore. That worries me a lot. - - | |
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[url]https://www.gelderlander.nl/nijmegen/ziekenhuizen-bomvol-kinderen-aantal-patientjes-met-longontsteking-stijgt-pijlsnel~acd0c71f/[/url] or https://www.gelderlander.nl/nijmegen/ziekenhuizen-bomvol-kinderen-aantal-patientjes-met-longontsteking-stijgt-pijlsnel~acd0c71f/ We have a lot of children with RS-virus linked pneumonia in NL... If CoViD would play any role (as coinfection) testing would show it... |
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Posted: November 23 2023 at 11:32pm |
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Europe moving into winter [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yjIYZ5MMMA[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yjIYZ5MMMA ; Old man winter is knocking on the door a little but earlier for some people… We have a powerful storm expected to develop over the Adriatic Sea, Balkans, and then becoming a monster blizzard for Moldova, Romania, and Ukraine… Then, very cold weather will persist and worsen as we get closer to December, setting the stage for more snowstorms. This is the latest rundown from Weather Watcher studios, subscribe for updates! DJ, Parts of (west/central) Ukraine may see 30-50 cm of snow...however storms may bring snow melt later on bringing large scale flooding...Followed by colder weather again... Ukraine healthcare is exhausted...NATO countries take over Ukraine wounded more and more...while also supporting more wars... Cold weather will bring even more disease via indoor spreading... DJ, Ukraine did have a multi resistant TB problem, lots of other diseases will be spreading uncontrolled...Ukraine refugees (with Ukraine now sending 16/17 to 70 y/o -also women-fighting till the last Ukrainian) may bring diseases...So good testing and isolation could be wise... In many ways I see comparisons with the "Spanish Flu" in the last phase of World War One...Ignoring healthrisks, concentration of the sick...My non expert view; It was the lack of strategy, plain stupidity, that made the Spanish Flu into a pandemic...And we could be repeating that now... Here in NL last elections made clear "politics has fallen into the hands of the insane"....Maybe crazy joe biden can invade Greenland-beat those Danes/Vikings-and show "American Strength" to win the US elections ? Of course disease are perfect for blame-games...the plague was spread by Jews, CoViD was a Chinese job.... DJ, Lots of countries reporting (RSV linked ?) pneumonia -most in children...China did use its own (by state owned companies) vaccines against CoViD...A.o. the WHO wants to know what is happening in China. So far China claims it may be facing a mix of diseases...[url]https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202311/1302400.shtml[/url] or https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202311/1302400.shtml ; China’s spike in respiratory diseases due to ‘immunity gap’ By GT staff reportersPublished: Nov 23, 2023 08:35 PM The official advised that minors who have relatively mild symptoms should see doctors at local clinics or the pediatric department of general hospitals to avoid dense gatherings and long wait times at major hospitals. DJ...could it be China is trying to find out what is happening-NOT hiding but learning the facts themselves ? |
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DJ, A nightmare scenario may be CoViD decreasing immunity in a way lots of diseases find room to spread. More cases of those diseases may result in more mutations/recombinations...very likely both in humans and other mammals...We end up with less protection whuile "disease pressure" is "exploding"...We did not invest enough in public healthcare, testing/sequencing...could be facing a "tsunami" of diseases... NO !!!! CoViD is NOT over !!! You do not solve problems by ignoring or denying them...Crazy politicians may push for more wars...to claim to be "winning"...When you compare the high speed worsening health crisis with the high speed worsening climate crisis present "politicians" show to be in the way of even facing the problem...Let alone solving them... Present "leaders" destroy "the economy=profits" by claiming to "save the economy".... So..Poland, Romania-both west of Ukraine-reporting serious health issues...Of course "it is just coincidence" ..."CoViD is mild"....bla-bla..."Blame Putin".... 20 pound "service costs" is still a lot...Here in NL also 60+ is included in the flu-vaccine campain...because; -Vaccines DO work ! -Masks DO work ! -Limiting contacts DOES work ! -Ventilation-to lower virus loads-DOES work ! One should discuss vaccines and vaccine safety ! In what job does one need to be vaccinated ? But -please- stop stupidity on masks ! They have been used to lower risks for maybe up to 1000+ years ! I do believe in trying to inform people...again-I am NOT an expert but I try to learn ! So should you ! |
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Posted: November 24 2023 at 11:45pm |
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link [url]https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-47043-6#Sec8[/url] or https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-47043-6#Sec8 ; Risk of SARS-CoV-2 infection and COVID-19 hospitalization for individuals with vaccine-induced immunity compared with individuals with natural immunity (Cohort 3)During the Delta period, individuals with vaccine-induced immunity sustained a higher risk for infection than those with natural immunity (Delta period: IR 13.1, 95%CI 12.7–13.4 vs 3.3, 95%CI 3.2–3.5). For the Omicron period, the difference in risk diminished (IR 116.6, 95%CI 112.6–120.7 vs 115.0, 95%CI 112.2–117.9). The risks for COVID-19 hospitalization were very low in both subcohorts (see Fig. 2c and Table 2). Compared to individuals with natural immunity, those with vaccine-induced immunity were at significantly higher risk of SARS-CoV-2 infection during the Delta period (aHR 4.90, 95%CI 4.48–5.36)), and at 13% higher risk during the Omicron period (aHR 1.13, 95%CI 1.06–1.21). Increased risk for COVID-19 hospitalisation among those with vaccine immunity during the Delta period (aHR 7.19, 95%CI 4.02–12.84) was not sustained over the Omicron period (aHR 2.0, 95%CI 0.64–6.25). In both periods, the risk of infection was higher among those younger than 50 years, and a longer time since the immunity-conferring event (vaccination) was associated with a minimal increase in risk (Delta 1.13, 95%CI 1.12–1.15; Omicron aHR 1.01, 95%CI 1.00–1.02). (Table S4). The risk of COVID-19 hospitalization was lower among women and increased with age and with increasing numbers of comorbid conditions (Table S5). - ConclusionsOur findings suggest that the risk of infection (and of developing severe disease) is affected not only by age and comorbidities but also by personal history of immunity-conferring events and by the viral variant responsible for the epidemic. Therefore, personalized risk-based vaccination strategies could be both effective and cost-effective. DJ...this study "fits in" with "live with the virus"..."natural immunity" after infection would do better than vaccines...Vaccines only for those at higher risks... HOWEVER !!!!! [url]https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps#pooled-by-age-group[/url] or https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps#pooled-by-age-group Excess deaths for younger people (<44 y/o) -most unvaccinated !!!- are STILL on pandemic levels ! [url]https://www.gelderlander.nl/binnenland/coronavirus-wint-razendsnel-terrein-29-procent-meer-virusdeeltjes-in-week-tijd~ac0e1ca0/[/url] or https://www.gelderlander.nl/binnenland/coronavirus-wint-razendsnel-terrein-29-procent-meer-virusdeeltjes-in-week-tijd~ac0e1ca0/ In NL a "test group" and waste water samples indicate CoViD on the rise again. Hospital cases not YET !!! going up in NL... DJ...lots of new variants spreading... It is unclear what is happening in China...[url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/new-rsv-strain-in-china-infecting-children-with-existing-sars-cov-2-impaired-innate-immunity,-paving-the-way-for-opportunistic-mycoplasma-pneumoniae[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/new-rsv-strain-in-china-infecting-children-with-existing-sars-cov-2-impaired-innate-immunity,-paving-the-way-for-opportunistic-mycoplasma-pneumoniae Does earlier CoViD infection make (some) people more vulnerable for other diseases ? Could other diseases-season linked- now result in much more severe disease ? [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-medical-news-crisis-unfolding-new-feline-canine-coronavirus-hybrid-sparks-global-concern-among-scientist-despite-attempted-coverups[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-medical-news-crisis-unfolding-new-feline-canine-coronavirus-hybrid-sparks-global-concern-among-scientist-despite-attempted-coverups DJ CoViD (and H5N1 a.o.) a major problem in non human mammals...that will bring lots of new variants ! TMN link; [url]https://www.bva.co.uk/news-and-blog/news-article/case-of-feline-coronavirus-identified-in-the-uk/[/url] or https://www.bva.co.uk/news-and-blog/news-article/case-of-feline-coronavirus-identified-in-the-uk/ ; A new strain of feline coronavirus (FCoV-23), first identified in the recent outbreak in Cyprus, has been detected in a cat imported from Cyprus into the UK. A cat infected with FCoV-23 may go on to develop Feline Infectious Peritonitis (FIP) which can cause death if not treated. Feline Coronavirus and FIP are both seen in the UK but existing strains of FIP are not known to spread between cats. The speed at which FCoV-23 spread across Cyprus suggests that this new virus is behaving differently and that it is being spread from cat to cat, most likely via faeces. This is a concerning change. BVA President Anna Judson said: “The arrival of FCoV-23 in the UK is highly concerning, but so far this looks to be an isolated case in an imported cat, and action has been taken to minimise any spread of the virus. There is no known risk to people but pet owners should remain vigilant, because the virus can cause Feline Infectious Peritonitis, which if left untreated can be fatal to cats. If owners have any concerns about their pet, they should speak to their vet immediately.” DJ, The TMN article claims the new coronavirus also spreading in dogs...Could be a risk for humans... [url]https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.11.08.566182v2.full.pdf[/url] or https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.11.08.566182v2.full.pdf may have more info on genetic background... DJ, lots of experts warn both CoViD and other disease may become "very problematic soon".... My view; Vaccines could be "of limited use" when we see a lot of new diseases...Masks DO offer protection ! So does ventilation-lowering viral loads ! Limiting contacts also works... Improving testing/sequencing/reporting is needed but does not fit in with "denial politics"...When you look at climate disasters one can translate that picture to "public health"...lots of public health crises on their way..."Politics" promoting more war... |
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[url]https://www.euronews.com/next/2023/11/24/its-not-gone-its-changing-its-killing-the-covid-variants-who-is-watching-closely[/url] or https://www.euronews.com/next/2023/11/24/its-not-gone-its-changing-its-killing-the-covid-variants-who-is-watching-closely Interesting articles on new CoViD variants...however missing in the story is the total lack of testing/sequencing... We simply MISS almost all of the mild/asymptomatic CoViD spread...We MISS a lot of CoViD spread in non-human hosts... Other disease create food probles; DJ, via google search [url]https://www.maine.gov/ifw/fish-wildlife/wildlife/living-with-wildlife/diseases/epizootic-hemorrhagic-disease.html[/url] or https://www.maine.gov/ifw/fish-wildlife/wildlife/living-with-wildlife/diseases/epizootic-hemorrhagic-disease.html ; Epizootic Hemorrhagic Disease (EHD) as well as Bluetongue Virus (BT) are illnesses caused by two similar viruses impacting white-tailed deer with EHD being more common in deer. These viruses are transmitted by the biting midge, Culicoides. Because these insect vectors and the virus are killed after the onset of frost, outbreaks are seasonal, typically occurring in late summer or early fall. And yes blue tongue virus (BTV) is a major problem in NL...So will H5N1 killing tens of millions of birds, minks etc be followed/mixed with midget spread disease ? Two cases of human H5N1 in Cambodia; - DJ, but a.o. in the UK in poultry industry workers there was found several cases of a/mild symptomatic H5N1 infection just a few months ago...H5N1 also is -by now- spreading in mammals. Most of the spread will be from eating infected birds...In minks, ferrets etc there is a lot of M2M -mammal to mammal spread...with limited spread in farm cats... DJ, criminal politicians destroyed public healthcare... not new(s) in many ways...lots of animals have corona/other virusdisease that may jump into humans...Certainly when CoViD undermined immunity...China/France etc. see children ICU run out of (limited) capacity because pneumonia is spreading "like crazy" in children with immunity problems after CoViD infection..."Boosting natural immunity" is insane ! But also the idea that present non-sterilizing vaccines can stop coming CoVid variants is "unrealistic optimistic"... DJ link [url]https://www.ft.com/content/0640004d-cc15-481e-90ce-572328305798[/url] or https://www.ft.com/content/0640004d-cc15-481e-90ce-572328305798 and Replying to @_CatintheHat "politics" has fallen into the hands of criminals..."Older" vaccines may not offer the same protection as the newest ones...but putting them at the garbage is utter stupidity.... ....So...we are on our way to a global healthcrises FAR WORSE !!!! than the Spanish Flu ! -Lots of diseases -NO !!!! strategy -Healthcare almost destroyed/out of capacity -info"tainment"..."media for advertisments" and lies... The Spanish Flu may have killed up to 5% of the global population between 1917 and 1923 (Java-then Dutch East Indies, British India hit hard but those -very limited- statistics are "unclear"). However [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu#Epidemiology_and_pathology[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu#Epidemiology_and_pathology that flu may have been of limited risk...We now face a tsunami of diseases under fast worsening conditions... Again-lots of diseases do mix human and non-human hosts...Those diseases do "not mind" killing all human hosts...they do not need humans to "survive"...Underestimating risks -like the risks climate collapse is bringing- is totally stupid-but present policy ! |
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Posted: November 27 2023 at 11:37pm |
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[url]https://www.gelderlander.nl/arnhem/kinkhoest-steekt-de-kop-op-gelderland-hotspot-gaat-vooral-om-jonge-kinderen~abb88e59/[/url] or https://www.gelderlander.nl/arnhem/kinkhoest-steekt-de-kop-op-gelderland-hotspot-gaat-vooral-om-jonge-kinderen~abb88e59/ [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whooping_cough[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whooping_cough major outbreak in the east of NL...(among other regions). See also;  New all time record for pneumonia among children 5-14 in Netherlands Related; link [url]https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/social-affairs/2023/11/26/bacterial-infection-causing-concern-in-china-detected-in-ireland/[/url] or https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/social-affairs/2023/11/26/bacterial-infection-causing-concern-in-china-detected-in-ireland/ One of many stupid ideas was "children are better of with natural immunity after CoViD"...Post-CoViD their immunity may be damaged for live ! The "boosting natural immunity" CoViD infection very likely opened the doors to lots of other disease... Now and then also M-pox shows up in news...Also the major outbreak of M-pox will have links to less immunity after CoViD... - - And -of course- CoViD itself also is NOT over !!! For almost a century it was known CoViD outbreaks in farm animals only could be controlled by killing all the farm animals...Ignoring that knowledge-for profits "the economy" is utter stupidity... Excess deaths in the unvaccinated age groups still at pandemic levels so NOT MILD !!! Also NOT running out of mutations/variants/recombinations !!!! With lots of spread in non-human hosts also NOT running out of hosts...! link [url]https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2214799323001212[/url] or https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2214799323001212 with winter in "the north" just a reminder of how strong the virus is ! Flu H1N2, H3N3 and From China [url]https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/11/emerg-microb-inf-emergence-of-novel.html[/url] or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/11/emerg-microb-inf-emergence-of-novel.html - Twice in my lifetime (1957 and 1968) avian flu viruses have reassorted with seasonal flu and launched a human pandemic.
DJ In 1957 and 1968 we did see "limited" pandemics...killing 2 to 4x the "normal" number of flu patients...H1, H2, H3 flu types are of a major risk for humans... |
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Posted: November 29 2023 at 12:43am |
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- - DJ, lots of diseases see doors wide open for spread both in human and non human hosts...Immunity defense did get weaker after massive CoViD-spread.... [url]https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/11/ukhsa-identifies-1st-h1n2v-swine.html[/url] or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/11/ukhsa-identifies-1st-h1n2v-swine.html , H3N3 lots of other diseases will create a problem much worse than the 2020-2023 CoViD pandemic.... Of course NOT testing (so there is no sequencing...), more refugees because of crazy wars and climate collapse only make matters -much- worse... Media also ignoring lots of weather disasters also keep ignoring the high speed worsening healthcrisis... Mask up ! If you can get a CoViD/Flu-vaccine GET IT !!!!! Lots of indications vaccines offer at least some protection ! I hope to be very wrong -again- and I am NOT an expert but -my limited view- we have to prepare for a major healthcrisis... It may get WORSE than the "Spanish Flu"...at least people had some natural immunity after catching & surviving that flu... We should expect lots of co-infections..."Flu-Rona" + bacterial infections with anti-biotics/anti-virals reaching limits soon... Again-hope to be very, very wrong ! |
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