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In the UK public investigations are ongoing on pandemic policy decissions. It is good to see "there is room for debate"... [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7tUwqPd6eQ[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7tUwqPd6eQ ; indie_SAGE 01.12.2023LIVE: Join our last briefing on 'COVID-19: Lessons learned for the next pandemic' with special guests Sir David King & Prof Deenan Pillay, Prof Alice Roberts hosting, and Prof Christina Pagel & Dr Kit Yates on numbers A comment; "At the very end everyone said "bye" but one person said "till next time" I guess someone has the next global pandemic already pencilled into their calender. Anyway, it's a shame your regular broadcasts are coming to an end, it was good to always be informed. And looking back to when Boris was the PM and every word out of his mouth about any topic was a lie, it was invaluable to have information about the Pandemic from indie_SAGE where the information hadn't been tanted by Boris's lies. Thank you for all your hard work." DJ...The US,UK and NL in 2019 were "the best prepared countries for a pandemic" according to a publication or study...All three did a bad job.. Last indie_SAGE friday presentation; Chapters 00:23 Intro Prof Alice Roberts 02:18 Indie_SAGE future: Prof Stephen Griffin 04:00 Stats: Dr Kit Yates & Prof Christina Pagel 14:13 Why Indie_SAGE? Prof Susan Mitchie 14:54 Sir David King, Founder of IS, former Chief Scientific Advisor 20:50 What has IS achieved? Prof Deenan Pillay, Emeritus Prof of Virology, UCL 25:50 Views on scientists communicating with govt & the public 26:10 Deenan Pillay 32:26 What are the lessons to be learned from IS? David King 36:50 Summary: Alice Roberts 42:50 Behaviour advisory group : Prof Elizabeth Stokoe, Psychological and Behavioural Science, LSE 45:58 Questions from the public 46.04 Are the risks of Long term health issues known? 49:36 Any news on JCVI recommending the latest Novovax vaccines? 51:50 How & when will the Covid pandemic be over? 54:41 FAQ & lessons to be learned: Stephen Griffin 56:30 Were we well prepared in 2020: Prof Martin McKee 58:30 What more could be done wrt using our test & tracing capabilities : Prof Gabriel Scally, visiting Prof of Public Health, Bristol Univ 1:02:08 Could herd immunity by infection have ever worked without vaccination? Sheena Cruickshank 1:04:06 Was the emphasis on modelling the right way forward? Kit Yates 1:06:34 What difference would it have made if our understanding of airborne transmission had been more broadly accepted? Dr Helen Salisbury & Susan Michie 1:11:55 What has been the impact on key workers? Dr Benita Kane 1:14:11 Impact on primary Healthcare? Helen Salisbury 1:16:06 Why did IS recommend maximum suppression? Christina Pagel 1:17:44 Balancing Lockdowns against economic harms? Prof Stephen Reicher 1:19:20 How could we have improved adherence to isolation etc? Prof Anthony Costello 1:21:30 What have we learned about rapid deployment of vaccines & treatments? Sheen Cruickshank 1:23:25 What can we learn from the experience of Pandemic of inequalities? Dr Zubaida Haque 1:25:55 Has the virus lost its teeth with Omicron? Prof Aris Katzourakis 1:27:34 Data sources & monitoring? Dr Duncan Robertsin 1:29:24 Did we get the behavioral approach right? Stephen Reichert 1:30:38 Final thoughts: Anthony Costello 1:33:14 Close: Alice Roberts While the Briefings have now stopped, please continue to follow IS through the website independentsageDOTorg, Twitter (X) @IndependentSage & Substack open.substack.com/pub/independentsage DJ More info/comments under the YouTube link... One of the reasons independent sAGE is stopping its presentations is lack of good data...There is simply a lack of testing... Worrying outbreaks of pneumonia in children appear to be spreading to multiple countries around the world. has been keeping track… • China • France • Switzerland • Netherlands • Denmark • Scotland • Ireland • Ohio & Massachusetts, US • South Korea May have CoViD links...immunity damage... It is also very likely there could be more co-infections...flu AND CoViD "Flu-Rona" etc...Since war is a "great way" of making lots of profits-for a very few we do see an increase of wars... Also climate collapse is worsening perspectives...The over 300 people killed by floods in NE Africa (Somalia, Kenya, Ethiopia) are victims of "genocide by climate collapse"? What part of the drought/flood is climate "change" related and what is "normal"? Do people die "from" or "with" CoViD ? [url]https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/[/url] or https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/ Excess deaths may give an indication on "extra deaths"...but if you put a baseline on 2020 you may find there are no excess deaths...since 2020 was the first year of the CoViD pandemic... A "solution" for the "climate discussion" could be putting a baseline for temperature-rise at the year 2000. We are -at least for now- able to keep global temperature rise under 1,5C compared to 2000...Even when fossil fuel usage is at new record highs... Climate collapse, wars make pandemics much worse...Currency backed by debts are not helping either... |
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New US elections-new pandemic...DJ-since biden "vaccinated people do not need a mask" did -also- a terrible job I only hope the US will see better candidates than biden-trump...a.o. both to old for that job.... [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-a-global-surge-of-mysterious-white-lung-pneumonia-cases-that-is-rapidly-spreading-could-be-possibly-due-to-new-coronavirus-strain[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-a-global-surge-of-mysterious-white-lung-pneumonia-cases-that-is-rapidly-spreading-could-be-possibly-due-to-new-coronavirus-strain DJ, claims; -Mycoplasma is known as a secondary bacterial infection -In some "white lung" cases the mycoplasma bacteria were not detected... DJ-However this story also does NOT have any proof of a new variant of CoViD spreading...Part of the problem no doubt is lack of testing. Also testing may miss/not recognize a new CoViD virus...(Or is there a SARS-3 variant ???) [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-something-is-not-right-about-china-s-mysterious-pneumonia-outbreak-taiwan-issues-travel-advisory-and-so-are-other-many-countries[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-something-is-not-right-about-china-s-mysterious-pneumonia-outbreak-taiwan-issues-travel-advisory-and-so-are-other-many-countries ; DJ, Story claims "white lung problems" widespread in China both for regions and age...TMN "speculate" a new form of CoViD might be spreading in (and outside) China... Like the first CoViD cases in 2019 one can claim a China cover up"...but maybe China/Bejing tries to avoid a panic ? Most of the west did give up on testing... [url]https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202311/1302818.shtml[/url] or https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202311/1302818.shtml ; Winter brings spikes in respiratory illness in the northern hemisphere. This is common sense. This winter, respiratory illnesses are surging simultaneously in many countries. This is a fact. However some Western media professionals choose to disregard both common sense and this fact. They seem oblivious to the coughing, fever and increasing infections around them, instead pinning their eyes on China, and eagerly attempting to throw mud at it. This is a familiar pattern. DJ, There is also a propaganda war...Claims of "cover ups" and "lab leaks" are NOT constructive and do NOT help to get a clear picture on events... |
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The TMN article [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-u-s-cdc-sounds-alarm-as-covid-19-resurges-across-america,-particularly-in-the-midwest-and-mid-atlantic-along-with-rising-hospitalization[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-u-s-cdc-sounds-alarm-as-covid-19-resurges-across-america,-particularly-in-the-midwest-and-mid-atlantic-along-with-rising-hospitalization is full of links; [url]https://www.cdc.gov/respiratory-viruses/data-research/dashboard/snapshot.html[/url] or https://www.cdc.gov/respiratory-viruses/data-research/dashboard/snapshot.html ; Reported on Friday, December 1st, 2023. Note: data summaries are based on CDC subject matter expert interpretation of publicly available findings across multiple data systems, some of which are not included in the data visualizations on these web pages. The amount of respiratory illness (fever plus cough or sore throat) causing people to seek healthcare is increasing across most areas of the country. The U.S. is experiencing elevated RSV activity, particularly among young children. After a period of limited change, COVID-19 activity is increasing again especially in the Midwest and Mid-Atlantic regions. Influenza activity continues to increase in most of the country. Hospital bed occupancy for all patients, including within intensive care units, remains stable nationally; however, pediatric inpatient bed occupancy has been increasing. Vaccines are available and can help protect people from the most serious health effects of fall and winter viruses.
DJ. Lots of other countries fail to give an update... [url]https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#ed-visits_separated_by_age_group[/url] or https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#ed-visits_separated_by_age_group also showing increase of CoViD cases in the US. Thanksgiving may have made matters worse...Flu numbers still expected to increase...very likely a lot of FluRona...co-infections... [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/sars-cov-2-news-russian-scientists-warns-that-sars-cov-2-contaminated-waste-water-supplies-can-infect-various-reptiles-including-crocodiles[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/sars-cov-2-news-russian-scientists-warns-that-sars-cov-2-contaminated-waste-water-supplies-can-infect-various-reptiles-including-crocodiles DJ, CoViD infections have been detected in over a hundred species. Non-human hosts will increase mutations/recombinations... [url]https://www.mdpi.com/1999-4915/15/12/2350[/url] or https://www.mdpi.com/1999-4915/15/12/2350 ; Currently, the global spread of SARS-CoV-2 is no longer considered a public health emergency of international concern [69]. At the same time, the circulation of the virus among animals and occasional hosts, independent of the human population, ensures the emergence of new variants with unknown and unpredictable infectious properties. We have shown the ability of SARS-CoV-2 to effectively replicate in the cells of certain reptile species without adaptation—in a continuous epithelial-like cell culture of the eastern box turtle heart (Terrapene carolina) TH-1 and primary fibroblasts of Nile crocodile (Crocodylus niloticus) embryo CNI at 29 °C. In terms of sensitivity to SARS-CoV-2 infection, TH-1 cells incubated at 29 °C were comparable to the reference Vero E6 cell culture incubated at 37 °C. The results obtained by a number of researchers in the successful adaptation of virus to replication at low (21 °C) temperatures in susceptible Vero E6 cells [52] suggest that such adaptation is also possible in reptile cells sensitive to SARS-CoV-2. The findings also provide a basis for special attention to reptiles as occasional susceptible hosts of SARS-CoV-2 in the context of the ongoing global spread of the virus and its continuous evolution. DJ...so far often mycoplasma infections -often in unvaccinated young age groups- were presented as "post CoViD" and as an outcome of weaker immunity...However ...the problem may be a lot worse...Again in farm animals the only way to control corona viral disease outbreaks was killing all the possibly infected farm animals... Public health is NOT a priority in almost all countries...-economy is...This comes with a -very high- price... |
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[url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/medical-news-mysterious-white-lung-pneumonia-strikes-ireland-while-experts-say-similar-outbreak-in-netherlands-not-linked-to-mycoplasma-pneumoniae[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/medical-news-mysterious-white-lung-pneumonia-strikes-ireland-while-experts-say-similar-outbreak-in-netherlands-not-linked-to-mycoplasma-pneumoniae (TMN) and [url]https://www.gelderlander.nl/binnenland/opvallende-stijging-longontstekingen-onder-kinderen-grotere-golf-dan-anders~acc0ccee/[/url] or https://www.gelderlander.nl/binnenland/opvallende-stijging-longontstekingen-onder-kinderen-grotere-golf-dan-anders~acc0ccee/ In NL the increase of pneumonia (most in children) may NOT be linked to mycoplasma...CoViD cases seem to be increasing. TMN claiming some new variants of CoViD may even escape PCR testing... There should not be any discussion on Long CoViD risks... Some come up with "vaccines kill" with most disease in unvaccinated, masks do not work...well indeed if you do not wear a mask...Also "immunity debt" non-sense showing up... More relevant is CoViD damage to immunity...very likely opening the "door" to lots of other diseases...Another note may be there could be more attention to pneumonia in young people-still WITHIN statistic "normal" levels in some countries/area's... |
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"saving the economy"...you pay...with your health ! others pay with their lives... DJ, bodies piling up.... [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-covid-19-news-latest-actions-by-china-indicates-that-a-new-sars-cov-2-variant-is-possibly-behind-the-mysterious-white-lung-pneumonia-surge[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-covid-19-news-latest-actions-by-china-indicates-that-a-new-sars-cov-2-variant-is-possibly-behind-the-mysterious-white-lung-pneumonia-surge China falling back to Non Pharma Interventions (masks, lock downs etc?) There may be new variants of CoViD testing may not detect...[url]https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps[/url] or https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps may be one of limited statistics giving an indication on the ongoing pandemic. Clinical Professor of Emergency Medicine, UCLA, today on recent pneumonia cases presenting at hospital there: "I've had more than a handful of healthy people with no underlying illnesses, who come in with very rapid progression of pneumonia, and they have very atypical presentations of the pneumonia. They have upper lobe pneumonias, very quickly end up being hospitalized, and some end up on the ventilator. All cultures are coming back negative, but it's giving me that fear, that COVID fear, from before." - and Replying to @ejustin46 @LongDesertTrain and @GourlaySyd DJ...we should be ACTING NOW -NOT reacting when healthcare collapses....Lots of indications we are moving into a "very bad winter"... |
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I write on this -once- a forum in the early morning. Mixing my breakfast/coffee with digesting the "news"...making up my mind... I do have a "limited" (everything has its limits) history background. Understanding the present one needs to look at the past... Pandemics are not that rare in history...In wars disease often becomes a main killer... Before this forom Henry L. Niman [url]http://www.recombinomics.com/founder.html[/url] or http://www.recombinomics.com/founder.html also had a forum...I did learn a lot on diseases.. - Dutch history IS global history in my view. One of the reasons the US became a republic in 1776 was NL was a republic at that time...Just over a hundred years before the "American revolution" the UK ended "Nieuw Nederland"...the "Dutch (in fact very mixed) population" got the name "Yankee"...I think more likely after "Janneke" a womans name in Dutch...but it may be "Jan-Kees"...two also (very) Dutch names... The present Venezuela-Guyana border conflict goes back to a NL (Zeeland) - Spanish border conflict...the UK also did "steal" Guyana...and the conflict... Suid Afrika/South Africa another part of Dutch "heritage"...including "apartheid" linked with a bizarre view of the "Dutch reformed church" [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cain_and_Abel#[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cain_and_Abel# Caïn would have been "black" killing white Abel...so apartheid was justified...Since Eve/Eva also was "made out of Adam" religion also did encourage inequality on gender basis... Indonesia -till 1949 seen by the Dutch as "Nederlands (Oost) Indië" may have managed to "limit" the burden of Dutch influence... To understand US foreign policy errors maybe understanding the NL background may help...however...also here there are limits... The US should NOT !!!! support a genocide on Palestinians...If the US does support this mass murder it will pay a price... -------- UK Covid Inquiry: The dead can't hear your apologies, Boris Johnson https://theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/dec/06/boris-johnson-rejects-suggestion-uk-had-worse-covid-death-toll-than-others lots of sources (ZOE, indie_SAGE etc.) have reduced pandemic news. In part because of lack of data..."do not test - do not tell" hide&seek policy...In part because the people behind it are doing a job governments have to do...providing good info on public health... --- Sometimes I find my "pandemic breakfast" hard to swallow... |
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Like with climate collapse lots of warnings on CoViD to "be ignored" by "our leaders"..... Is there any point ? [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-covid-19-news-u-s-cdc-admits-that-jn-1-is-possibly-more-transmissible-as-infections-and-hospitalizations-rise-in-united-states[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-covid-19-news-u-s-cdc-admits-that-jn-1-is-possibly-more-transmissible-as-infections-and-hospitalizations-rise-in-united-states - DJ...it was known corona-virus disease in farm animals only could be controlled by killing/culling all the farmanimals...Somehow in humans "CoViD would become mild, seasonal, not worse than a flu"...WHY ???? DJ, In NL the current number of "Long CoViD" cases seems to be 100,000+. There is a trial getting started on [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metformin[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metformin to see if it will bring improvements...DJ-Let me be very clear-improvements would be VERY WELCOME !!! However ME-CFS cases may indicate a lot of long term damage resulting in chronic disease for the rest of the patient live.... We have to avoid Long CoViD by avoiding CoViD ! "The '100 day cough' is quickly spreading across the UK" apparently. But notice that word in the line at the bottom "whooping cough appears to be spreading around the country". Whooping cough positive tests in the UK are lower this year than any year between 2012 and 2020. So I wonder what's causing that 100 day cough. DJ "whooping cough" also "on the rise" in NL...so...we are going for wordgames are we ? No testing...simply do no longer call it CoViD but call it whooping cough...[url]https://www.rivm.nl/en/national-immunisation-programme/whooping-cough[/url] or https://www.rivm.nl/en/national-immunisation-programme/whooping-cough vaccines were supposed to limit "the cough"! |
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DJ [url]https://twitter.com/drseanmullen/status/1696229699846832172[/url] or https://twitter.com/drseanmullen/status/1696229699846832172 made a calculation. There could be a risk over half of the population in lots of countries could be dealing with chronic disease because of CoViD. (See also calculations in time). and DJ..in a perfect world we would not NEED perfect vaccines...Vaccines are part of a strategy-masks, social distancing and -very major !!!- information are other tools. In lots of places around the world waste water samples now detect CoViD-levels unseen so far in this -ongoing/ignored- pandemic... "Politics" for now choose to fail...it may reflect a population tired of problems...However if CoViD does do the damage we have seen before-or even worse-"politics" may have to deal with reality... If than there is still time to "do much" is another question... ----------- [url]https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/officers/caiVOU_nx3L97MptSiezuq2lT-Y/appointments[/url] or https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/officers/caiVOU_nx3L97MptSiezuq2lT-Y/appointments [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc8L4BNm2RI[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc8L4BNm2RI John Campbell (66) tested positive for CoViD. [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Campbell_(YouTuber)[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Campbell_(YouTuber) May be interesting to see how things work out... |
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- DJ, COP29 is planned in Azerbadjan...another oil state.... [url]https://www.reuters.com/world/italy-france-germany-call-ad-hoc-eu-sanctions-hamas-2023-12-11/[/url] or https://www.reuters.com/world/italy-france-germany-call-ad-hoc-eu-sanctions-hamas-2023-12-11/ ; ROME, Dec 11 (Reuters) - Italy, France and Germany called on the European Union to impose ad hoc sanctions against Hamas and its supporters, the foreign ministers of the three nations wrote in a joint letter to the EU's foreign policy chief Josep Borrell DJ, Israel may have killed 25,000+ Palestinians...so "western leaders" sanction Hamas... PMC COVID-19 Tracker, Dec 11, 2023 The surge continues. Today: 1.2 million daily infections 1 in 41 infectious (2.5%) In 4 weeks (Jan 8): 1.6 million daily infections 1 in 30 infectious (3.3%) 1/ A few key methodologic updates. 1) Biobot correct levels downward for the past two weeks, so you might notice that this week's estimates seem similar to last week's or marginally lower. 2) Our forecasting model uses a combination of historic data (situation past several years) and current data (past 4 weeks). In the historic model, we switched from using mean-type data to median-type data. This avoids overestimating levels based on the BA.1 surge and allows us to predict accurately a little faster, rather than predicting high and waiting for the current 4-week's data to correct it. 3) The forecasts depend a lot on the most recent week's data. To the extent Biobot is accurate or inaccurate in real-time, this leads to divergent forecasts. DJ, Lots of indications new CoViD variants and (co)infections will soon be a very major global issue... Biden will see zelensky today for more bribes/aid... Present western politics rotten to the root...on top of that western economies face recession/depression, high/hyper-inflation... In every definition "this is bad"! |
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[url]https://twitter.com/sahouraxo/status/1734691473772409104/photo/1[/url] or https://twitter.com/sahouraxo/status/1734691473772409104/photo/1 DJ, Austria, Czechia, Guatamala, Israel, Liberia, Micronesia, Nauru, Papua New Guinea, Paraguay and the USA vote for continuation of - DJ, the genocide in occupied Palestine should be a reminder of all genocides in the past...Evil often comes in uniform with a gun in his hand...backed by those making money out of mass murder... The worst criminals are "friendly, well dressed, good educated"... "Jesus Christ came here a week before he was crucified," a Palestinian in Taybeh told me. Taybeh is the largest Palestinian Christian community in the West Bank — and since 10/7, armed Jewish settlers and the Israeli army have been terrorizing the community with mob beatings, theft and forcefully removing the Palestinians from their own property. "They attack indiscriminately. Christians and Muslims. That's the nature of the [Israeli] state..." full documentary report: https://youtube.com/watch?v=6lcXlKJQPzM DJ, Like in Syria, Iraq a Christian minority did support the gouvernment that "the cristian west" wanted to destroy...Russian orthodox christians end up defending religion against western "barbarism"...(DJ-I am NOT a christian...but I believe in religious freedom.) |
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-DJ-most things in live will never be perfect... IF YOU HAVEN’T GOTTEN VACCINATED FOR THE HOLIDAY YET IT IS NOT TOO LATE. The monovalent mRNA vaccines are here in the US for ages 6 months+. The traditional platform vaccine Novavax is also available, with less side effects in general. If you have family members who are cancer patients, obese or overweight, immunocompromised, have cystic fibrosis, chronic kidney, lung or liver disease, heart conditions, HIV, or physically inactive, you are not practicing safest measures by bringing disease into their homes. Test before having guests, mask up indoors and in crowded untested outdoor spaces, advocate for clean air including ventilation and filtration, be honest with each other if little Susie has had a flu/cold/ or COVID or if you are feeling under the weather. Don’t be the asshole who says “it’s just allergies” “I’m just feeling a little cold” “this cough is nothing” or sneeze and cough everywhere without a mask on. There are still lots of things you can do ! If you read this you try to stay informed... There are safest ways to gather indoors this holiday season. In past seasons I would discourage from gathering. We have more tools (do not read that to be “all the tools”). But if you have the tools, The newest variants of SARS-CoV-2 are the most highly transmissible ones. JN.1 is making its way around the world. My expertise is in cell biology and safest spaces. Let me remind you that repeat infections are not good for anyone. I’m looking forward to holiday parties that take precautions to protect others. Babies are innocent and don’t have a choice - we as adults are trusted to protect them from long-term disease. That includes vaccinating them from preventable illnesses and disease. The best way to be healthiest is to control that which you can control. You only get one body. Protect it as best you can. Sad when families put the most vulnerable at greater risks than necessary. Then they BEG the same physicians and experts who warned them not to place their family members in this position of prolonged disease states to now save their loved ones’ quality of life and bring them back to normal. A little bit ironic, don’t you think? DJ [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jne9t8sHpUc[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jne9t8sHpUc ; Alanis Morissette - Ironic-mutations in CoViD; - -CoViD -again- did NOT get mild NOT run out of mutations NOT stop spreading DJ-Again I am not an expert; trying to get a view...Could it be CoViD is now most spread in non-human hosts ? That non-human hosts could bring even more variants/recombinations even worsening CoViD ? We live in "crazy times"! CoViD spread soon may be at levels worse than ever before in this pandemic-but media ignore it... [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-covid-19-news-sars-cov-2-hides-in-the-body-via-extracellular-vesicles-and-reactivates-later-while-constantly-testing-negative[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-covid-19-news-sars-cov-2-hides-in-the-body-via-extracellular-vesicles-and-reactivates-later-while-constantly-testing-negative link to [url]https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2542568423000491[/url] or https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2542568423000491 ; 5. ConclusionsAlthough this study is not directly related to liver disease, the identification of SARS-CoV-2 in EVs is a highly important and relevant to COVID-19 infection in liver disease patients and for better management of these patients. The identification of SARS-CoV-2 RNAs in the EVs isolated from patients with negative RT-PCR indicates the persistence of infection and likely recurrence of the infection, which suggests another route of transmission as EVs harbor SARS-CoV-2 RNAs. Therefore, in the case of COVID-19 where we are unable to understand the mechanism of recurrence or false negativity, we may find the prolonged association of SARS-CoV-2 with EVs, which can easily be detected even in patients with negative RT-PCR. This could pave way for future directions to determine the cause of reactivation and also post-COVID-19 mortality. DJ, It may explain "unclear re-infections" but also how testing can miss CoViD... Today newest NL CoViD numbers will become available via [url]https://www.rivm.nl/corona/actueel/weekcijfers[/url] or https://www.rivm.nl/corona/actueel/weekcijfers -tomorrow also in English-translate does a good job ! Very likely NL is moving to "very serious" CoViD numbers as well... - BA.2.86* is in de loop van week 47 dominant geworden en samples met een JN.1 Spike (JN.1=BA.2.86.1.1 of XDD) waarschijnlijk aan het eind van week 48 of aan het begin van week 49 (1 week geleden). DJ, In NL JN.1 and XDD are growing fast. Unclear if XDD is growing even faster than JN.1 [url]https://www.corona-lokaal.nl/locatie/Nederland/waterzuivering/Nederland[/url] or https://www.corona-lokaal.nl/locatie/Nederland/waterzuivering/Nederland NL waste water samples "very high"...(upper left press the - to + to get an overview for all of the pandemic. We are now at record high level...Most high in SW "Zeeland" not far from Belgium/Antwerp(en)...so I wonder what the Belgian/Flanders statistics show... "bad" |
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DJ, Waste water/ virus spread in NL seems to be record high. For that reason I started a Dutch section. [url]https://www.rivm.nl/en/coronavirus-covid-19/current/weekly-update[/url] or https://www.rivm.nl/en/coronavirus-covid-19/current/weekly-update 13 December 2023 | 18:00 Weekly update on the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2: 13 December 2023Spread of the virus and admissionsIn week 49 (4 – 10 December 2023), sewage surveillance showed that the national average viral load increased significantly (+57%) compared to the week before. Last week, the percentage of participants who tested positive for COVID-19 in the Infection Radar survey increased (from 2.4% to 3.1%)* compared to the week before that. Hospital admissions of patients with SARS-CoV-2 last week also increased compared to the week before that (daily average admissions went from 108 to 143).** There were an average of 686 patients with SARS-CoV-2 in hospital last week; this is higher than the week before that (average of 541 patients). DJ, The NL situation may be an indication for what is happening in lots of other countries... - [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-covid-19-news-russia-reports-107,174-new-sars-cov-2-infections-mostly-driven-by-jn-1,-9451-hospitalizations,-148-deaths-for-epi-week-49[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-covid-19-news-russia-reports-107,174-new-sars-cov-2-infections-mostly-driven-by-jn-1,-9451-hospitalizations,-148-deaths-for-epi-week-49 - [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-all-covid-19-data-from-india-probably-fake-india-does-not-report-jn-1-but-airport-surveillance-in-singapore-shows-many-indians-with-jn-1[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-all-covid-19-data-from-india-probably-fake-india-does-not-report-jn-1-but-airport-surveillance-in-singapore-shows-many-indians-with-jn-1 DJ, still lots of countries do NOT test...Wastewater indications, excess deaths, hospital statistics may provide some insight in the unfolding crisis. and DJ, Simply put...a lack of info (hardly any testing-so sequencing may provide info on hospital cases in older age groups-miss a lot of other data) make it "hard" if not impossible to get a realistic view on "what may be coming"... [url]https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/12/cell-baloxavir-marboxil-use-for.html[/url] or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/12/cell-baloxavir-marboxil-use-for.html ; In addition to the HPAI H5N1 clade 2.3.4.4b virus which has spread globally since 2021 - we are also watching an older H5N1 clade 2.3.2.1c virus in Cambodia which has infected 6 people (3 fatally) in 2023 - and an HPAI H5N6 virus in China (see map above) which has infected nearly 90 people in the past decade, killing roughly half.
Until five years ago, the only antiviral available to treat influenza infections were neuraminidase inhibitors like zanamivir and oseltamivir (Tamiflu ®) and peramivir.
In late 2018, the FDA Approved Xofluza : A New Class Of Influenza Antiviral, but with the drop in human avian flu infections over the past few years, very little is known about its ability to treat severe avian flu infection. DJ, Co-infection "Flu-Rona" may be another unfolding risk... |
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DJ, The US via NATO trying to stop "BRICS-extra" with the Ukraine "project" lost-so yet another NATO criminal war in West Asia. History does show mixing wars with pandemics and climate change is a "very bad idea"...however present western "leaders" seem to live in a 2-dimensional world...ignoring history or any other reality... Risk of Death: People with COVID-19 had a 51% higher risk of dying compared to those with seasonal influenza. This means for every 100 people with COVID-19, about 9 more died compared to those with the flu. Health Outcomes: COVID-19 was riskier for a wider range of health problems. About 68% of the specific health issues they looked at were more likely with COVID-19, compared to only about 6% with the flu. Impact on Different Organ Systems: COVID-19 generally had a higher risk of causing problems in various organ systems, except for the lungs. The flu had a higher risk of causing lung-related issues. Overall Health Impact: Measured in something called DALYs (Disability-Adjusted Life Years, a measure of overall disease burden), people with COVID-19 had a higher burden of health loss compared to those with the flu. Hospital Readmissions and Intensive Care: People with COVID-19 were more likely to be readmitted to the hospital and needed intensive care more often than those with the flu. Long-term Effects: Both COVID-19 and the flu caused more health problems after the initial illness phase. However, except for lung problems, COVID-19 had a more significant long-term impact on health. DJ, CoViD is NOT flu ! Flu provides a much better form of immunity against reinfection than CoViD does. Reinfections/co-infection increase risk of serious complications... -Lots of countries see very high virus-loads in waste water. So far however healthcare is not yet in a major crisis. [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/excess-mortality-figures-shows-that-more-young-adults-in-the-united-states-and-united-kingdom-are-dying-early[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/excess-mortality-figures-shows-that-more-young-adults-in-the-united-states-and-united-kingdom-are-dying-early lots of further links DJ also [url]https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps[/url] or https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps is very clear...unvaccinated young people deaths are still on pandemic levels....The only "new" thing is "it is now presented as a new normal"...CRAZY !!! Also CoViD did -again- not run out of new mutations... DJ...my view; what is needed even more now is good information/communication !!! Masks, ventilation, avoiding crowds, better testing should be a bigger part of the strategy...A.o. this forum was ruined by "political bla-bla" making matters worse ! |
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DJ, as always, you amaze me with your energy and enthusiasm! Best, CRS, DrPH aka "Chuck" |
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CRS, DrPH, Chuck, thanks... Of course my goal is not only to find an outlet for my "energy and enthusiasm" ! I hope to be of some use in informing people...If I can be of help in making up other minds-getting a view -at least based on some info-it would be very welcome ! We now have very high level of CoViD-virus-particles in NL wastewater [url]https://www.corona-lokaal.nl/locatie/Nederland/waterzuivering/Nederland[/url] or https://www.corona-lokaal.nl/locatie/Nederland/waterzuivering/Nederland . Maybe part of these record high -looks like record high- wastewater findings may be more testing ? However so far in this pandemic we did see high waste water findings did bring high hospital cases... DJ...lots of countries do see high number of hospital cases linked with "respitory infections"...so it may be a mix of flu, CoViD and other virus disease...A problem may be the virus-mix may not only show up in hospital beds but also in patients.... Here in NL flu numbers are still low. NL has a relative high number of people with at least some vaccinations. Also "natural immunity" after an earlier infection may -for now- bring less hospital cases due to infectious disease... [url]https://www.rivm.nl/en/coronavirus-covid-19/current/weekly-update[/url] or https://www.rivm.nl/en/coronavirus-covid-19/current/weekly-update ; In week 49 (4 – 10 December 2023), sewage surveillance showed that the national average viral load increased significantly (+57%) compared to the week before - DJ, In English; December 6 (!!) Since I think we are at the beginning of a gigantic (!!!!) JN.1 (BA.2.86.1.1) Corona infection wave, I want to point out that everyone (except very young children ?) now can get a vaccination... DJ-AGAIN !!! -In most countries people can get vaccinated (often without costs) -Lots of statistics point out vaccinated people see less/less severe CoViD -Also "Long CoViD" risk is limited by vaccination ! DJ-Are CoViD vaccines "100% safe" ? NO !!! But name me things that are 100% safe ! If you have a certain allergy or health condition (cancer, pregnancy) talk with (your/a) doctor/GP. Masks are also part of a strategy...limiting contacts, limiting viral loads via ventilation... AGAIN !!! Even after vaccination against both CoViD and flu catching both diseases at the same time can result in (very) severe disease or death... --------------- Should gouvernments be warning the public ? YES !!!!! They should ! "saving the economy" was/is "top-priority" for "politicians-for-sale"...Even if it by now is getting clear Long CoViD may do much more damage than even lock downs did...still "most politicians" seem to live on another planet...promoting war (industry)... So..I am not an expert ! But lots of good experts on internet try to warn the public..."get ready-course here I come" (I=CoViD)... [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rsMB5cxPc8[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rsMB5cxPc8 Rare Earth Get Ready 1973 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!DJ...stay informed ! |
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Western "politicians" keep wasting over a billion per day on endless wars - to keep western dominance and exploitation the "dominant value"... -link [url]https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(23)00744-2/fulltext[/url] or https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(23)00744-2/fulltext DJ more science to ignore by "politics".... - And since there seems to be some confusion about JN.1—with one influential person even thinking it was a recombinant with XBB!—here's the basic picture: BA.2.86.1 + S:L455S = JN.1 S:L455S evades antibodies BA.2.86 was vulnerable to, hence JN.1's much faster growth. 2/3 - [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-who-warns-that-respiratory-infectious-diseases-rising-across-europe-worrying-covid-19-trends-in-czechia,-finland,-italy,-latvia-and-slov[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-who-warns-that-respiratory-infectious-diseases-rising-across-europe-worrying-covid-19-trends-in-czechia,-finland,-italy,-latvia-and-slov akia DJ...why we expect "politicians" to show wisdom...or any brains at all ? The only thing that counts is money...profits... -DJ-in "wars/latest news I try to make clear "we" are creating perfect conditions for "ending the human problem"...If the pandemics (it will no longer only be CoViD !) does not kill you than climate disaster or war will... We "voted for this"...or we "accept" this... If humans want to have a remote chance of surviving [url]https://fossilfueltreaty.org/mission[/url] or https://fossilfueltreaty.org/mission may offer some perspective... -Do NOT bank with/via criminal banks (most "banks" finance global destruction) -Get informed/try to inform others -eXtinction Reaction, Green Peace etc. may be working on the better alternatives -there will be no easy way out..."neo-liberal pseudo religion" only profits ("economy") matter" on the longer run is destroying the globe...We are now at "the end" of that "longer run"... -Panic is understandable but does NOT help ! DJ-In most countries healthcare, lots of government may try to "do good"...Most people simply may be "slow" to "get it" but are not "bad"...only bad informed... DJ-As always I very much hope to be totally wrong ! |
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DJ, main political priority is control over global energy...so we see NATO proxies "ukraine" and "israel" fighting BRICS-extra to keep global dominance for the US$ and "white-west"...Present politics do NOT care for health, climate..."saving the economy" in interest of their financial sponsors, war/fossil fuel industry and "banksters" seem to be their only concern... [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-indonesia-battles-escalating-december-surge-while-jakarta-records-over-200-daily-covid-19-cases[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-indonesia-battles-escalating-december-surge-while-jakarta-records-over-200-daily-covid-19-cases just another indication the world is getting out of -at best- a "pandemic pause"... - DJ, like with climate "politics" simply defund unwelcome medical science..."hurting profits/economy"...let the bodies pile up in bojo words... This brief thread is very specifically for journalists: some follow me & maybe still drop in? We need to talk about how COVID burden/outcome measures are reported. Counting hospital admissions & deaths WAS appropriate in 2020-21. Now those stats badly misinform. Why? - Until Omicron, our frame was a respiratory virus that infected & killed rapidly. Low population immunity and limited understanding of what the virus does to the body, meant that incidence rate, ICU capacity, and deaths told us when things were better or worse. Not now. - B/c COVID is a whole-body disease w/ vascular, neurological, immune, & endocrine harms. Less *acute respiratory* harm now, b/c: a. the most vulnerable already died b. we have some population immunity c. Omicron is less severe than Delta Much more diffuse harms instead ... - By reporting deaths and hospitalizations data, COVID continues to get framed as a problem only for really vulnerable people. "Just like flu". :( So, no masking, no precautions, low XBB vaccination, and no thoughts about COVID harms. Politicians may like this but I don't. - - Who is going bother with indoor air quality when the media focuses on what COVID isn't doing, instead of talking about what it IS doing? There is a lot of Long COVID research coming out. Don't let it gather dust on the shelf. This is too important to be incurious. Please. DJ...of course "free western media" owned by war industry will deal with health like they deal with climate...Both bad for advertising and profits... DJ, much to complex for most "journalists"...good in rewriting press releases and following "media-made stars"... Stupid -at the moment- is winning ! DJ...there is an anti-science politics/media "culture"...Every 16/18 y/o has a "right" for his/her own car...holliday-flights presented as basic human needs (but also great in spreading disease)... Like with "climate" DJ-I am giving up... Critical voices in a democrazy do run risks...If I would go into NL politics and claim on TV for NL mobility if would be better to move towards 4,5 or 6 million cars in NL -instead of the 9 million record high number of cars we now have in NL-I would need 24/7 protection... By keeping this "once-a-forum" ongoing I do run increasing risks... I do believe in public education but may try to find more safe ways to "spread info"... Pandemics are NEVER isolated...in history both wars and climate/weather were major factors... - DJ...or will media/politics increase silencing science ? |
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Public health and medical colleagues: If you are interviewed by the media and they say COVID is post-pandemic, please do not go along with it. Correct them! No major scientific organization has declared the end of the pandemic (end of "emergency phase" is different), and framing COVID as "post-pandemic" only manufactures consent for ignoring it completely, increasing the harm COVID will continue to cause in the long-term. DJ...the WHO ended the Public Health EMERGENCY status...never ended stating CoViD still was a pandemic... [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-canada-leading-researcher-warns-about-alarming-surge-in-covid-19-deaths-and-reporting-discrepancies-in-newfoundland-and-labrador[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-canada-leading-researcher-warns-about-alarming-surge-in-covid-19-deaths-and-reporting-discrepancies-in-newfoundland-and-labrador another warning.... One of the "word games" is "from" or "with" CoViD....people ending up in hospitals with hearth problems testing positive for CoViD ...It is depending on definition of a "CoViD-case" what list such a person is included in...Still such a person deserves the best of care in any civilized country... Also "Long CoViD" or "Post CoViD" has fallen to wordgames....definitions...In part also related to (long term) insurance issues...HCW-ers that did get CoViD in the very early stages being denied an insurance income while they are unable to work. They "never tested positive" for CoViD...there was no test at the time... [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/ further mentioning increase in CoViD-cases in the UK, Philippines...but also discussion on vaccines... [url]https://www.corona-lokaal.nl/locatie/Nederland/waterzuivering/Nederland[/url] or https://www.corona-lokaal.nl/locatie/Nederland/waterzuivering/Nederland ...CoViD virus particles in NL are still record high...for now-the hospital/disease "burden" however still seems limited...Making it even harder to get a sort of grip on how to get a view on this pandemic.... |
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DJ... (Western) governments strategy on the pandemic = saving the economy... strategy on climate collapse = saving the economy... strategy in wars = saving the economy.... kicking cans down the road is supposed to be a new form of leadership.... Buying time, printing money, debts beyond imagination...while NOT solving ANY problem !!! The underlying problem in this CoViD pandemic is "terrible politics in the hands of crazy people".... link [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxk3c_SbWMg[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxk3c_SbWMg ; Rage against the machine - Killing in the name LyricsDJ, blind capitalism -only profits count- is a mental disease...Sadly also a "new normal".... DJ...again...I am NOT any kind of "expert" (if there are any "experts" on this global chaos ?) ...even vaccinated people may run increasing risks with the "mega mix of diseases" spreading...So mask up if possible ! (Here in NL hardly anyone wears a mask...may be time to start a trend...Could help to wake up "politics"...) DJ, a simple way could be opening a door or window in public spaces... DJ, fear of needles may stop some of getting vaccinated...besides that "easy to use-Do It Yourself vaccines may even be cheaper (if produced by a non-profit company...Pfizer, Moderna make billions out of their vaccines paid for twice by your tax money...). DJ, lack of testing = lack of sequencing...we may not have a good idea of what (mix of) disease(s) are spreading...Testing positive for one may not exclude another disease...with the mix ( a.o. Flu-Rona) making symptoms much worse... [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-covid-19-news-who-declares-sars-cov-2-jn-1-strain-as-variant-of-interests-and-admits-that-it-is-more-transmissible[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-covid-19-news-who-declares-sars-cov-2-jn-1-strain-as-variant-of-interests-and-admits-that-it-is-more-transmissible DJ-There is lots of info on CoViD damaging also the brain....lots of countries see hospital cases increasing again...I did not see much info on CoViD in non-human hosts...however (like H5N1)spread in mammals will worsen the picture.... A "leaders" job is to "lead" and not be in the way of trying to get out of (many) crises....We are now dealing with "for-profit-politics" working for shareholders to maximize profits from all the crises they created....Insanity rules ! |
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[url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-why-southern-states-in-india-are-panicking-first-few-cases-of-jn-1-variants-in-kerala-and-karnataka-had-died-jn-1-could-be-lethal-to-ind[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-why-southern-states-in-india-are-panicking-first-few-cases-of-jn-1-variants-in-kerala-and-karnataka-had-died-jn-1-could-be-lethal-to-ind ians... [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-ukhsa-says-1-out-of-24-in-united-kingdom-likely-to-test-positive-for-sars-cov-2-with-london-most-badly-affected[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-ukhsa-says-1-out-of-24-in-united-kingdom-likely-to-test-positive-for-sars-cov-2-with-london-most-badly-affected DJ-In NL also waste water level for CoViD are [url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/12/coronavirus-cases-soar-particles-in-waste-water-hit-record/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/12/coronavirus-cases-soar-particles-in-waste-water-hit-record/ ... The "signs" are unclear....[url]https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps[/url] or https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps week 49 excess deaths in Germany, DenmarK (DK), Switzerland "moderate"=4% to 7% above "norm"... [url]https://www.dw.com/en/covid-19-rates-are-rising-again-what-you-need-to-know/a-67783623[/url] or https://www.dw.com/en/covid-19-rates-are-rising-again-what-you-need-to-know/a-67783623 ; Where are COVID-19 rates rising?Germany has seen an uptick in COVID-19 hospitalization rates related to the JN.1 subvariant. According to official statistics, 302,100 people in Germany were infected with JN.1 up to December 20, an increase from 110,000 on October 20 and 195,000 on November 20. Dasgupta said India was also experiencing an uptick in cases, especially in the states of Kerala and Karnataka, where authorities have intensified disease surveillance and are advising people to take appropriate measures. But it's not only in Germany and India said Ziyad Al-Aly, an expert in public health based at Washington University in St. Louis. "The situation is becoming more concerning. [JN.1] seems to be taking over nearly everywhere in the world," said Al-Aly. "In Singapore, the numbers are really high. In the US, cases and hospitalizations are also rising." DJ-DenmarK [url]https://www.thelocal.dk/category/covid-19-denmark[/url] or https://www.thelocal.dk/category/covid-19-denmark "old news".... [url]https://cphpost.dk/2023-12-15/news/round-up/high-incidence-of-respiratory-diseases-to-continue-through-christmas/[/url] or https://cphpost.dk/2023-12-15/news/round-up/high-incidence-of-respiratory-diseases-to-continue-through-christmas/ ; Five respiratory illnesses are sweeping Denmark. Photo: Konstantin Ventslavovich COVID-19, flu, pneumonia and more are rampant in Denmark - "and those who are tested are only a fraction of those infected," warns a senior physician at SSI. Plus, a Holbæk farm is forced to cull its bird-flu infected Christmas ducks DJ...lots of info behind paywalls...as if there is no public interest in providing information...And lots of the "info" is "info-tainment" good for advertising but "serious info and advertising may be a bad mix".... ---------- NL-NW Europe dealing with "storm Pia"...this year may end up the most wet... [url]https://www.ventusky.com/?p=59.1;-8.3;3&l=pressure[/url] or https://www.ventusky.com/?p=59.1;-8.3;3&l=pressure had a model (few days back) with a "low" of 950 hPa and a "high" of 1050 hPa (over the Atlantic) less than 800 kilometer/500 miles distance...Such a "scenario" must result in very strong winds... Extreme weather and pandemics may be linked in lots of ways...people staying indoor-maybe even in shelters... DJ, the virus damages blood vessels and -in that way- organs all over the body...Very likely -like the herpes virus- CoViD can also remain in a host (organ) and restart symptoms (that may be seen as re-infection...but the "source" was already in the host). [url]https://www.wur.nl/en/research-results/research-institutes/bioveterinary-research/show-bvr/bluetongue-found-in-dutch-dog.htm[/url] or https://www.wur.nl/en/research-results/research-institutes/bioveterinary-research/show-bvr/bluetongue-found-in-dutch-dog.htm the idea blue tongue virus would infect a dog was seen as "very remote".... The dog was seriously ill and showed shortness of breath, pulmonary oedema, severe emaciation and lethargy, among other symptoms. DJ...CoViD like symptoms...could it be blue tongue may infect humans ? Chance -also- supposed to be "very remote".... also here in NL...excess deaths in young age groups still on pandemic levels... |
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DJ... [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-weekly-covid-19-hospitalizations-and-icu-admissions-in-singapore-reaches-record-levels-for-2023[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-weekly-covid-19-hospitalizations-and-icu-admissions-in-singapore-reaches-record-levels-for-2023 ... Here in NL ; Translation; No, november sickleave was NOT caused by the flu; flu then was very limited. There was then-just as now- a very high number of CoViD cases.... "Sickleave increased due to flu" misleading headline... DJ...very likely a lot of CoViD-cases are missed or called "flu"....It would explain why (record) high CoViD levels in waste water still are NOT linked with very high spread of CoViD in (non) humans... DJ...even worse when "politics" does not want to know reality... The CDC has not elevated the warning levels of JN1 variant despite it causing hospitalization surges worldwide, but the WHO has. The CDC has not recommended universal masking in hospitals and for HCWs, but the WHO has. The is failing us. Do better . In most countries "saving the economy=profits" is turning into a disaster...very likely resulting in healthcare crashing end of january (my-non expert- view)... [url]https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/12/who-statement-risk-assessment-on-covid.html[/url] or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/12/who-statement-risk-assessment-on-covid.html ; Just over two years ago a new, milder - but more transmissible - Omicron variant burst onto the scene and quickly supplanted the Delta variant. Since then we've seen a rapid succession of Omicron variants, starting with the BA lineages and then moving on to the recombinant XBBs. But now there is new contender (JN.1). How long it will reign, and where it - and its descendants - will take us in 2024 and beyond is anyone's guess. But it reminds us that viral evolution doesn't stop just because we are tired of dealing with the COVID threat. and [url]https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/12/viruses-how-spike-mutations-l455f-and.html[/url] or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/12/viruses-how-spike-mutations-l455f-and.html ; While a lot of people hoped that within 12 to 18 months we'd all either have contracted the virus - or have been vaccinated - and that we'd have acquired `herd immunity', after 4 years the virus continues to reinvent itself in new and unexpected ways. Although it is possible the SARS-CoV-2 virus will eventually run out of `biologically fit' avenues for immune escape, for now, the virus appears to have a new set of tools to play with going into 2024. DJ, like with climate collapse the strategy is to buy time, denial, ignoring excess deaths...blame-games (bio-weapon non-sense...) My non-expert view; Since CoViD must be widespread also in animals the corona-virus may "deal" with the human problem...Like with climate "doomed if we do act, doomed if we do not act"...we may have run out of time... SARS-2/CoViD may now jump from human to non-human hosts and back...Increase of immunity only resulting in selection of immunity evading mutations... Like climate collapse we may be worsening the pandemic -only to buy time....save profits.... Some major differences with historical pandemics; -Population during the Spanish Flu [url]https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/world-population-by-year/[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/world-population-by-year/ was around 1,8 billion...it now is getting close to 8.1 billion... -Travel means a lot of diseases may be around the globe within 24 hrs once it ends up in international air travel...The speed of spread now is extreme but due to flying and number of passengers/potential hosts -Flu is "selflimiting"...recovery from flu ends up with a form of immunity against that flu...CoViD can infect over and over again... -Non expert view; in fact the number of CoViD variants is now that high and "wide" we may no longer be dealing with "Sars-2" but with lots of types of SARS... -In the past public health was priority #1 (based on historical experience...) somehow the "political elite" is unable to see the very real dangers... DJ-hope to be very wrong; both climate collapse and pandemics are now "ending" humans....Neo-liberal greed and insanity are to blame... So "more wars" , more repression, more lies...again I hope to be very wrong ! |
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- DJ...if "voters" do see how "leaders" destroyed everything of value most western citizens want to see their "leaders" stand trial...So kicking cans down the road will now see armed escort... DJ...the only "western value" is money... [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-united-states-sars-cov-2-infections-rising-across-6-counties-in-california-health-authorities-urges-northern-californians-to-mask-up[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-united-states-sars-cov-2-infections-rising-across-6-counties-in-california-health-authorities-urges-northern-californians-to-mask-up DJ-Yet another country, yet another warning...End of december is even worse for statistics/indications on public health... Okeanos GITMO Holliday [url]https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2023/12/too-late-to-save-the-climate.html[/url] or https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2023/12/too-late-to-save-the-climate.html ; In a new paper, a group of leading climate scientists (Hansen et al., 2023) indicates mean global temperature is currently accelerating toward 2.0°C above pre-industrial temperature by the middle of the decade (Figure 1). The Arctic is warming nearly four times faster than the rest of the world over the last 43 years, on average around 3℃ warmer than it was in 1980. Over the past 30 years Antarctica has been one of the fastest-changing places on Earth, warming more than 3 times faster than the rest of the world. DJ, in climate the trend is "faster than expected".... ------- Of course wars, climate, pandemic, economy are inter-linked...Spending billions per year on wars means less money for education...resulting in less trained HCW-ers within a few years...Wars=refugees...of course "israel" provides an example of how to "solve" that problem; kill all Palestinians... I hope to be very wrong in my view on 2024...but we can not go on destroying on this scale and expect it will not see collapse... "We" simply ignore climate, pandemics and "think" there is still time...it "worked" in the past...so...But we may run out of time soon... -"El nino" will bring more extreme weather in 2024 -Wars seem to be escalating, NATO loves wars...an elite is making record level profits... -CoViD is "out of control"...(Masks may be of use...vaccines did bring immunity evasion...on the long run non-sterilizing vaccines did limit severe disease but could not stop further pandemic evolution...) We "did survive" 2023...most of us...however "surviving 2024" will become harder...There are no "left" or "right" solutions...we need solutions that work ! |
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[url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/12/health-minister-warns-about-sky-high-coronavirus-cases/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/12/health-minister-warns-about-sky-high-coronavirus-cases/ ...just words...NO action...even vaccinations stopped (you still may be able to get a vaccine against CoViD, Flu via your GP).... In NL 20% of the public lost all trust in government/politics... DJ, my view; Two worlds; A political one...there is even a "carbon budget" -climate problems will show up in 2100...bla bla..."Vaccines control the pandemic"..."the west" still rules "the world"... Reality; Climate collapse, pandemics "out of any form of control"...BRICS-extra ruling the world (and doing so more each day)...the "west" ignoring "genocides by allies" in proxy-states like "ukraine" and "israel"...Those -once- countries became NATO-BRICS frontlines... DJ-I do not believe in "revolutions" -often resulting in another "elite" taking power.................However "collapse" may be a real risk... [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-united-states-worrisome-rise-of-sars-cov-2-and-influenza-infections-in-northern-texas[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-united-states-worrisome-rise-of-sars-cov-2-and-influenza-infections-in-northern-texas Thailand Medical News/TMN one of limited sources of info... We are a few days away from 2024...CoViD-19 started in 2019 (DJ-the Wuhan military games october 2019 -my view- could be a starter for global spread...the CoViD-19 virus must go back (much) further...) "living with the virus"..."herd-immunity" and "booster-vaccines" should have brought us -somehow- to an end of the pandemic...At least some "light on the end of a pandemic-tunnel, some perspective.... What if the first months of 2024 will see global pandemic-linked health crisis is the worst so far...? "Saving the economy/profits" ended destroying that economy...undermining "trust" in how countries are run...politics works... DJ-kicking cans down the road is NOT a durable strategy...however it seems all "markets-politics" can think of...neo-liberal phantasy world..."Companies/private sector will save us"...so lets "pump trillions" into the private sector... Reality is housing crisis, health crisis, climate crisis, political crisis...collapse... Somehow "neo-liberals" ignore (even recent) history on the role governments have to play... So -unable to change- more repression and censorship continue to push "neo-liberalism" policies that keep failing...So nuclear war as a way out ? DJ-My view-a lot of nuance needed- BRICS-extra has a major role for governments..."Strategic industries" (pharma, war) are under government control NOT privatized... If an even "better" Russian anti-tank weapon only costs 5% of a less "good" US one maybe "blind capitalism" is NOT the best way to organize a society... How many Long CoViD cases are there now in this world ? Over 100 million ? Is there one clear definition ? If it is six months of health problems-how many more people will be included in the "long CoViD" statistics mid-2024 ? Excess deaths are still high in many places...most in age groups that do not get that much vaccinations...(<45 y/o) ...This does NOT mean "vaccines are perfect" ! Non-sterilizing vaccines should be just a small part of a much wider strategy...however in most countries "get vaccinated" seems to be "all of the strategy".... [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoMH2R0vVxM[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoMH2R0vVxM Geert van den Bossche may be very controversial...I do not get a real idea of his plan of getting out of the pandemic...What -to me- looks realism; non-sterilizing vaccines may "select" for immunity evading variants...JN.1 and many others could show to be "ignoring almost" vaccine immunity... I hope to be VERY, VERY WRONG !!!!! I LOVE to be WRONG !!!! But; -Climate collapse will worsen in 2024...a.o. El Nino doing its bit... -CoViD may be out of control...(again non-human CoViD spread is "out of the news-not out of animal-hosts"...may be a very major problem !) -Co-infections may show to become a nightmare -More war may bring more (tax funded-YOU pay !) profits to war-share holders and the politicians they buy...That money is NOT used to solve very major problems... Statistics/"news" will show how wrong I have been...If CoViD/disease stays limited, excess deaths numbers stay limited GREAT !!! I would LOVE that ! |
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[url]https://www.gld.nl/nieuws/8071006/klimaatactie-loopt-uit-de-hand-in-doetinchem[/url] or https://www.gld.nl/nieuws/8071006/klimaatactie-loopt-uit-de-hand-in-doetinchem ; A protest action by Extinction Rebellion in Doetinchem got out of hand on Friday morning. Twenty activists blocked the Raadhuisstraat near the ING branch to call on the bank to stop financing fossil fuels, but they did not receive a warm reception in the city. One person was injured during a skirmish. DJ, "old people" active for eXtinction Rebellion were attacked by young people...Today there will be some big demonstrations -[url]https://www.at5.nl/artikelen/224318/lijkt-klimaatdemonstratie-a10-op-blokkades-haagse-a12-in-amsterdam-wel-ingewikkelder[/url] or https://www.at5.nl/artikelen/224318/lijkt-klimaatdemonstratie-a10-op-blokkades-haagse-a12-in-amsterdam-wel-ingewikkelder ; Mayor Halsema has banned the demonstration on the A10. She is concerned about the accessibility of the VU and the safety of other road users and the protesters themselves. Lingen has not seen dangerous traffic situations in The Hague or heard stories about longer emergency services' arrival times. “Because everything was actually orchestrated, a lot of people knew where they stood. But I'm really curious about what will happen tomorrow.” DJ, In Amsterdam -near ING bank (financing fossil fuel/wars...crime)- the ring-road will be blocked. [url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/12/extinction-rebellion-plans-to-block-amsterdam-ring-road/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/12/extinction-rebellion-plans-to-block-amsterdam-ring-road/ -[url]https://eindhovennews.com/news/2023/12/demonstration-on-18-septemberplein/[/url] or https://eindhovennews.com/news/2023/12/demonstration-on-18-septemberplein/ ; Several organizations in Eindhoven are organizing a large demonstration on 18 Septemberplein on Saturday to speak out against “the genocide in Gaza.” The Palestinian community, several Eindhoven Muslim organizations, and Eindhoven4Palestine are organizing the demonstration. According to those organizations, genocide is taking place in Gaza. This claim is not out of the blue, in November United Nations experts already warned about a genocide of Palestinians. According to the organizers, the Netherlands would be complicit in this because the outgoing cabinet supports Israel’s right to “self-defense. The organizations therefore want Brabant politicians and administrators to speak out against the violence of war in Gaza. The organizations also want Brabant companies to sever ties with Israeli companies. DJ, worldwide attention is shifting towards who is financing climate destruction, war, "news" etc.... [url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/12/trust-in-government-still-low-18-say-system-needs-overthrowing/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/12/trust-in-government-still-low-18-say-system-needs-overthrowing/ ; Almost one in five people in the Netherlands think the government is functioning so badly that the whole political system would be best overthrown, according to research from the socio-cultural think-tank SCP. One-third of the population said that “serious action” against the government would be justified if it “continued not listening” to the people, but only 6% would be prepared to use violence, the survey showed. The figures come from the latest edition of a continuous survey of public opinion which the SCP has carried out since 2008 and is based on research between March and August this year. It is the first time questions have been asked about willingness to take action against the government. - Despite the high level of willingness to take action, people talk about acting within the confines of the rule of law, SCP researcher Emily Miltenburg told broadcaster NOS. “We interpret this as a desire for change.” DJ-I think in most western countries there is a major political crisis (in part also the outcome of lack of communication during the pandemic). Here in NL 1-in-3 now may vote for "protest-parties"...out of frustration with present politics...I do think 1-in-3 may underline there is a very major crisis in trust in government... [url]https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/12/29/pers-d29.html[/url] or https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/12/29/pers-d29.html ; As the year 2023 draws to a close, the contrast between the objective reality of the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic and the delusional fantasy promoted by capitalist politicians and the corporate media has never been greater. Surveying the official political and media landscape in the US and throughout much of the world over the holidays, there is virtually no mention of the pandemic anywhere. The last time President Joe Biden even publicly referred to COVID-19 was in September, when he jokingly flouted White House and CDC masking requirements after being exposed to his infected wife Jill. After two years of continuous efforts to minimize the Omicron variant and all of its progeny as “mild,” the unstated policy towards the pandemic is now simply to ignore it. DJ, Politics now has become kicking cans down the road, buying time with fiat-tax money (ending up in private elite pockets...) denial of problems and blame games (either China or Putin...or Iran did it...or was it North Korea ?) ...Of course denial NEVER is a long term strategy in itself...So more censorship, silencing critical voices...( including dirty tricks; accusations of (tax)fraud, sex crimes etc. made up to silence people..In part a repeat of how anti-Vietnam war protestors did see US tax office being used against them a.o. so NOT new). Here in NL "politics" may create riots/accidents to stop XR-climate protests...in the UK climate protests fall under anti-terrorism law (earlier actions by the Animal Liberation Front did see anti-terror laws being used). So..."pandemic-what pandemic"? denial by politics/"media" may go on...even if we see a "care crash"...."it is all flu" we did NOT test so we did NOT find CoViD... |
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[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-FAmMa5cA[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-FAmMa5cA ; Ukraine Uses People With Special Needs On The Front Line. Military Summary And Analysis 2023.12.30DJ, Voha-a young man with down syndrome being mocked by fellow ukraine "soldiers" in trenches..."he has to fight-with a stick-to get his own gun"... If this special needs case is not a false flag and not isolated, then the West is surely culpable and complicit because the very stereotype of bandera is this kind of idea of removing the weak and needy from the system. This is what the West is knowingly waving the flag (literally and figuratively) for. This will get the West utterly condemned. and ukraine killing "Russian subhumans" in a cluster bomb attack on a christmas market in Belgorod... NATO/US also sending more weapons to its proxy "israel" in Palestine to kill more Palestinians... DJ-If I translate the above to how "the west" is dealing with the pandemic "living with the virus", "saving the economy/profits" I have to give up any idea of western "civilization"...politicians-for-sale only going for the money...Again-this pandemic is political-caused by NOT stopping the virus in time ...it would be "bad for bussinesses"... DJ..."only the old and weak" die from disease A criminal corrupt political elite ignoring all science... CoViD will keep infecting over and over.."do not test-do not tell"...control the media... This is how we move into 2024...NOT 1624 or so...Did "we" not learn ANYthing from history ? Have "we" to keep making the same (insane) mistakes over and over again ? [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-after-jn-1,-expect-new-spawns-jn-1-1,-jn-1-1-1,-jn-8,-jn-9-and-spawns-with-t572i-mutation-to-continuously-reinfect-till-lethal-strain-em[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-after-jn-1,-expect-new-spawns-jn-1-1,-jn-1-1-1,-jn-8,-jn-9-and-spawns-with-t572i-mutation-to-continuously-reinfect-till-lethal-strain-em erges... [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-covid-19-situation-in-peru-escalates-as-weekly-infections-now-exceeds-1700-despite-extremely-low-testing-rates-hospitals-stressed[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-covid-19-situation-in-peru-escalates-as-weekly-infections-now-exceeds-1700-despite-extremely-low-testing-rates-hospitals-stressed In most countries "Long CoViD" for politics also only a money-matter... |
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