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    Posted: April 27 2006 at 5:48am
I was just wondering If it will be safe to leave washing on the line after bird flu hits?I mean what if a bird does a poopsy on your clothes?
 
Would you wash the clothes in bleach? Would that kill the virus?
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ooops ....just occured to me that this might be a Troll.  But, I'll leave the response just in case this thought crosses the mind of any 'Newbies' who come to the fourm!-k


Edited by ReadyMom - April 27 2006 at 6:24am
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Im sorry, what is a troll?
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It might be better to use gloves every time you collect the washing in. best be on the safe side me thinks!!! Do you have much washing to collect in each day Yuri?
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Readymom is very helpful
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Bird droppings can be highly infectious with the bird-to-bird virus, and possibly  infectious with the bird-to-human virus, but I don't see how they can carry HPAI.

Color me naive?

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p.s.  If a bird shat on my clean clothes, I'd wash them again in hot, soapy water.
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 Yeah,  what's a troll!!!!
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This is not news although a good question. Try posting in Survival section.
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Actually as far as I see it bird droppings could be dangerous now as fecal matter is a way of catching the disease with out it being h2h. I don't think re-washing would do it although you certainly would want to...a hot iron would kill the virus.

Edited by Linda - April 27 2006 at 8:28am
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Originally posted by Linda Linda wrote:

Actually as far as I see it bird droppings could be dangerous now as fecal matter is a way of catching the disease with out it being h2h. I don't think re-washing would do it although you certainly would want to...a hot iron would kill the virus.

Only where she ironed.
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Buy an indoor clothesline and extend it from wall to wall and dry your clothes inside. That's what I plan to do. I found one that you mount on the wall and it locks tight at any length up to 40 feet. It is made by Sunline and the model number is R400. I bought it at a local hardware store. I also have 2 of the drying racks that fold up for storage that I got at Walmart.

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Originally posted by ReadyMom ReadyMom wrote:

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ooops ....just occured to me that this might be a Troll.  But, I'll leave the response just in case this thought crosses the mind of any 'Newbies' who come to the fourm!-k
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Originally posted by Parranoid Mom Parranoid Mom wrote:

... Perhaps ready mom should be less generous with her barbs.
 
 
In my own self defense: This looks like a potential Troll and we've had plenty the last few days. Given that ... I had also  attached an addendum noting that this was also a valid question that others (who haven't read other threads with similar conversations) may have and would like addressed, so I left my response as is.  In no way was my remark a 'barb':
                definition of barb: shot: an aggressive remark directed at a person like a missile and intended to have a telling effect; "his parting shot was `drop dead'"; "she threw shafts of sarcasm"; "she takes a dig at me every chance she gets"
That being said ... let's continue with the discussion ...... 
 
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No doubt a troll (or a four year old, but the child probably would be more concerned about "poopsy" on a toy instead of on the laundry).
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What is a troll?
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Originally posted by fpmagnolia fpmagnolia wrote:

What is a troll?
I think that would be someone that posts on the sight just to get a rise out of people.....wish I had that much time on my hands could find some productive use for it
Insanity is making the same mistakes and expecting different results....therefore...Those who don't learn from history are bound to go insane.
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Won't bleach kill it (might kill the clothes!)
Serenity now!
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Trolls are something the birds left behind that the pandemic will not!
    
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1) If this becomes a (human) pandemic, then bird-to-human transmission will cease to be of any significant importance.  I'd worry about your neighbor's fluids on your laundry, but not a random overflying bird's.

2) In the current situation of a bird epidemic (epizoonotic), it seems that the infected persons have had large-scale contact with infected birds/bird materials.  If a single bird stool was significantly infectious, wouldn't we have seen more cases from unknown/casual exposure in the areas where H5N1 is widespread (assuming it's not being suppressed/missed)
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A troll is anyone on the Internet who logs into a forum like this in order to disrupt and spread misinformation on purpose.
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After bird flu is in your area would you really think that a single bird's droppings would be insignificant?  That particular bird might be ok, but would you want to take a chance?

Not trying to argue - just struggling to work through what is safe and what isn't.
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Rationally, I would believe that a single bird's droppings would not be that risky, although emotionally I probably would have some hesitation.  Unless the flu became much more widespread in birds (ie, pigeons, robins, bluejays, geese, etc) I think the odds of having an infected duck's (or whatever) droppings pose a risk would not be high.  I certainly would wash the droppings off my clothes, and might even take some extra precautions in doing so, but I don't think the actual risk would be high at all.  It's sort of like West Nile; there are quite a few dead birds found with it every summer nowadays, and a few human cases, but I don't get worried every time I get a mosquito bite--the risk from a single exposure is just too low.



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